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Title: Cutting Bricks
Post by: southernsis on November 01, 2008, 04:22:27 PM
We salvaged a few thousand bricks. Some of them are broken, but there are still usable pieces. I am wondering can you put a masonary blade on a skill saw and cut that way or what kind of saw with blade.Dont want to buy or rent a saw. What kind of tool do you use to score a brick and break it? I know nothing about  bricks, so any help? My husband wants to use his compound miter saw, but I am sure I read, not to use it for masonary. Help, I have hit a brick wall. [frus]
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 01, 2008, 04:37:21 PM
There is a chisel called a brick set - I use one about 4" wide - just put the brick on top a couple others unsupported in the center and hit the chisel on top with about a 3 lb hammer - it will cut relatively clean.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2081173_use-brick-set.html

A saw will likely get problems soon as the brick dust or rock dust affect the windings and bearings pretty quickly.

The silica in the dust can cause silicosis.  That said if I wanted to cut them with a saw I would get a dry diamond blade and use it with a throw away skill saw.  Harbor freight has diamond blades cheap.
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 01, 2008, 04:50:46 PM
The directions on the link are better than mine.  I was shown by an old fellow from Guam.  The bricks can just be sand set also with no mortar.  Smooth and set a sand bed the depth of the bricks below finished grade. 

Put a redwood 2x4 border if you like.  Lay the bricks out in the desired pattern. 

Sweep sand over the top and between the joints in the bricks.  Water it down with a hose. 

Sweep and spray it off with water.  It will stay there forever - no mortar needed-- done.

Al (Guam) cleaned bricks with a knife he called a bull - a heavy knife sort of like a machete, striking the old mortar and knocking it off clean.
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: Sassy on November 01, 2008, 04:57:30 PM
We have brick walkways/patios all around the house in Kerman - done in different patterns - circular, herringbone etc, set in sand - they've been there for almost 25 yrs - still look really nice.  Also easy to repair or change. 
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 01, 2008, 05:14:16 PM
Found an old pix of the bricks around the pond- not too good .

(https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/glennkangiser/brickspond.jpg)

Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: n74tg on November 01, 2008, 06:21:45 PM
I cut maybe 300-400 cuts on concrete blocks with a diamond blade on my 20 year old Skilsaw; wore out one blade and about half of a second blade.  Then I framed the house using that same old Skilsaw; it's still running fine.  Just orient your work so the concrete/brick dust blows away from you and the saw.  It will keep the dust out of the saw, but more importantly it will help keep the dust out of your lungs.  On calm days I used a fan to create the breeze. 

Oh, the Walmart brand diamond blade (mine was about $14) worked just as well as the $35 name brand blade from Lowes. 

I also used that diamond blade to cut ceramic tile for the kitchen and utility room.  Though it cuts "dry" the cut quality was probably 95% as good as the "wet" saw I borrowed from a friend (and a LOT less messy). 
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: cordwood on November 01, 2008, 10:40:40 PM
I tended for a "Bricky" when I was a kid and he just used a brick hammer. I am not near as good as he was but I can still make fair cuts. Plus brick hammers come in handy for a lot of other uses like separating boards and prying window & door frames into place. ;)
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: southernsis on November 02, 2008, 07:27:46 AM
Thanks everyone. Now it is work time again.
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: MountainDon on November 03, 2008, 08:14:43 PM
Clay bricks or concrete bricks? Seems nobody asked that question.

Concrete bricks make good walks, clay ones don't as a rule.
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 04, 2008, 12:17:03 AM
The ones we used above were red clay bricks and held up well even with parking a car on them for about 20- 25 years - sand set, however I have noticed lots of different grades and hardnesses in red clay baked bricks.  I would say the above were medium hardness.
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: MountainDon on November 04, 2008, 12:20:17 AM
I think it also makes a difference on how hard the frosts are.   ???
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 04, 2008, 12:22:02 AM
That would be for sure as they will hold moisture and freeze - breaking them up.  We very seldom freeze down there and seldom freeze here.
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: MountainDon on November 04, 2008, 12:29:10 AM
Here in the high desert we have lots of freezing nights come Dec - Jan   [shivering emoticon goes here]
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 04, 2008, 12:55:29 AM
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Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: MountainDon on November 04, 2008, 01:00:25 AM
That one does the job!   

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Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: southernsis on November 04, 2008, 06:31:27 AM
They are clay bricks. We do not get that many days of freeze in Arkansas.
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: n74tg on November 04, 2008, 07:01:35 AM
Sis:
I didn't realize you are in Arkansas...where?
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: jb52761 on November 04, 2008, 07:53:59 AM
In my experience, the brick chisel that Glenn mentioned has been successful enough. The only down side that I know of with the red bricks are the fact that mine here tend to be quite slick when it rains.....not always, but enough that I've learned to not go outside and Salsa dance on them during a monsoon... jb
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 04, 2008, 09:31:17 AM
Any video of that, jb? hmm
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: MountainDon on November 04, 2008, 10:43:04 AM
Quote from: southernsis on November 04, 2008, 06:31:27 AM
They are clay bricks. We do not get that many days of freeze in Arkansas.

What is your intended use? On ground or above ground like a wall or column?

Here in the high desert of NM, even though it doesn't rain much, there is enough moisture picked up from the ground that clay brick walks and borders suffer from flaking and general deterioration over time because of the freeze - thaw -refreeze action. I'd be wary of on/in ground use if there is any freezing at all. Simply my opinion.
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: jb52761 on November 04, 2008, 10:45:28 AM
I'll work on that...have to set up a tripod to get it on film....wouldn't want another human-being to have to witness it..... :o
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: southernsis on November 04, 2008, 06:07:31 PM
North East Arkansas in a little town called Evening Shade.
We will probably use the brick for a floor in a cord wood storage building and as borders for raised beds. Maybe for the pretend foundation on my husbands shop. Just can't resist bringing things home when they are free.
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: cordwood on November 04, 2008, 06:30:22 PM
Quote from: southernsis on November 04, 2008, 06:07:31 PM
North East Arkansas in a little town called Evening Shade.
We will probably use the brick for a floor in a cord wood storage building and as borders for raised beds. Maybe for the pretend foundation on my husbands shop. Just can't resist bringing things home when they are free.
"Frost Heave" will still be a problem where you are. I live a little south of you but close enough to share similar temps. Any unprotected paving will eventually become bumpy and take on a "Natural" look ;) I have seen a few walkways that still looked good after the heaving but not recommended for elderly people using a walker. (I am getting there quick :o)
Good drainage seems to help but the bricks tend to attract moisture, I have a couple hundred stacked in the yard and the bottom ones seem to stay wet looking all year.
Title: Re: Cutting Bricks
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 04, 2008, 10:28:38 PM
Winter's on it's way, Sis. and you have them so I would at least set up a test area - walk or something and try them out.