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Title: Dual flush toilet on the cheap
Post by: CREATIVE1 on February 25, 2008, 08:40:40 AM
I was looking at dual flush toilets to conserve water, and they are pricey even on ebay.  This might be a good alternative--and it is also a retrofit for existing systems.  This is an example--much cheaper on ebay.

http://www.airdelights.com/sloanparts/uppercut.html?OVRAW=double%20flush%20toilet&OVKEY=dual%20flush%20toilet&OVMTC=advanced&OVADID=3210241512&OVKWID=36473564512
Title: Re: Dual flush toilet on the cheap
Post by: MountainDon on February 25, 2008, 10:57:07 AM
That's an interesting device. One thing to remember though is that good low volume flushing requires more than just reducing the flush volume. The design of the WC itself is very important. That was the problem with the first low flushers and is still the problem with some today.

Here's a link to a good toilet testing site

http://www.cuwcc.org/MapTesting.lasso

Plus more info...

http://www.cuwcc.org/toilet_fixtures.lasso

If you look over the performance charts you'll see that brand name has little to do with the toilet's ability to make efficient low volume flushes work. The top rated units are made by companies who also have toilets that should be classified as pieces of crap. I've not bothered pricing the excellent vs the bad so have no idea if price is any indicator. A good toilet will be in service for decades so a higher cost, higher efficiency model could be an excellent value in the long term. OMMV
Title: Re: Dual flush toilet on the cheap
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 25, 2008, 05:52:20 PM
We just leave the back of the tank open and have a brick hanging on a nail on a string.  If you are gonna flush a big one you pull the brick out of the back and let it fill all the way up.  If not -- leave it in.  gottogo

OK --- so I was just funnin ya. d*
Title: Re: Dual flush toilet on the cheap
Post by: CREATIVE1 on February 25, 2008, 06:01:13 PM
I tried something similar once and caused one of those unpleasant overflows.  Simple isn't always better.
Title: Re: Dual flush toilet on the cheap
Post by: ScottA on February 25, 2008, 08:47:06 PM
Things to look for in toilets; a glazed trap and the quality of the glazing. Expect to pay $150 + for a decent toilet.
Title: Re: Dual flush toilet on the cheap
Post by: CREATIVE1 on February 26, 2008, 08:36:07 AM
Any brands you would suggest?
Title: Re: Dual flush toilet on the cheap
Post by: ScottA on February 26, 2008, 10:10:02 AM
Toto, American Standard, Kohler, Eljer. All of these brands have crap lines to compete with the bargin makers so you can't go by brand alone. Price is usualy a better indicator of quality.
Title: Re: Dual flush toilet on the cheap
Post by: CREATIVE1 on February 26, 2008, 11:36:45 AM
Quote from: ScottA on February 26, 2008, 10:10:02 AM
Toto, American Standard, Kohler, Eljer. All of these brands have crap lines to compete with the bargin makers so you can't go by brand alone. Price is usualy a better indicator of quality.

Is that a pun? :)