This is just a note to thank everyone for setting me on the straight and narrow....
I could not have done this project without your great help. A special thanks to Glenn for turning
me on to the Senco Palm nailer. If it hadn't been for that I know I would have given up.
So for the rest of you, even an old disabled Marine can get things built. All it takes is a little
confidence and the support of your friends here at Country Plans!
Now all I have to do is get the roof covering on and the siding, but the hard part is done.
Bruce
Great going, Bruce!!
Good Job, Bruce.
You are probably not nailing down sheet metal roofing but-- for those who do -- the Senco palm nailer wil drive those corrugated roofing nails with the rubber seals right through the high ribs of the wavy corrugated - no problem. I use 2" ones for finger clearance. I think I was also using the 60d adapter for the large heads.
Quote from: firefox on December 19, 2007, 08:32:58 PM
Now all I have to do is get the roof covering on and the siding,
but the hard part is done.
Humm I think the framing is in a lot of ways the "ease " part. All phases have there unique issues.
Good job Marine!
Quote from: glenn kangiser on December 19, 2007, 09:49:22 PM
You are probably not nailing down sheet metal roofing but-- for those who do -- the Senco palm nailer wil drive those corrugated roofing nails with the rubber seals right through the high ribs of the wavy corrugated - no problem.
Do it on the day NO ones inside the building . I bet that makes a wounderful NOISE !
I'm sorry, PEG, say again, -- I couldn't hear what you said as I was listening to my nailer without my earplugs. hmm
Actually, it's not too much worse than a bad case of gas, PEG.
Thanks PEG!
There is a lot of detail in the framing that you know without even thinking about it.
Missing one of those details could have caused me to fail the inspection. Hopefully there
aren't as many details in the roofing. This is what I am planning to do:
1-Attach a 6' soffit board around the perimiter. It is something I had from before, that has a
bevel on each edge that is symetrical and I believe was designed as an edge drip board.
2-Make a ridge vent out of some 6" wide SS 24 ga stuff I have. Figured I'd make a cross section
like a stove pipe hat that someone had pushed the brim in almost all the way. Then just punchsome holes
in the sides with a sharp punch. Small enough to keep out most of the critters but enough hoes to get some ventilation. Remember this is only a 10 x 16 garage.
3-Lay down the 30# felt that I just got, so that it lays under the hat brim at the top and under the drip angle at the bottom, with the edges oriented for proper drainage like shingles.
Attach the 2"x 4" drip angle sheet metal to pin the felt down at the edges.
4-Lay the roll roofing on top and nail down.
What did I miss?
Thanks,
Bruce
Flat roof ? Slight pitch? I can't remember what your exactly doing , Photo's?
If It's fairly flat but with some pitch , hopefully as roll roofing is not torch down or hot mop and does need some positive drain slope , you also need to butter up the (about 2" wide strip) with lap cement / tar as you roll it out . And nail it about every 4" along the seam lines.
For the vent , and this will depend on how much snow you get I'd build a wood , PT preferred, stack about 12" to maybe 2' depending on snow and roof slope conditions , the width and lenght of a standard roof jack , then run your roll roofing and felt right up the chase and plant the vent on top of it . Butter up with some tar / black jack as required.
(http://roofvents.com/breatherventside.GIF)
Link to vents : http://roofvents.com/products.html
You'd have to adapt it slightly or have a sheetmetal guy add a flashing rim to it. I don't have a photo of the ones we have done , but they do work well. That one I posted may almost be tall enought to just put it on a 2x8 / 12 curb , again depends on snow / location and roof pitch.
We did that on this place and a couple of other flat -ish roofs we've re-vamped. They all had torch down roofing , but it's the same idea.
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept8th10.jpg)
They even have a roof booty type thing on that site that might work along with the rest of it,
(http://roofvents.com/product_thumbs/th-pvc-tpo-separate.jpg)
Or this one ,
(http://roofvents.com/EPDM_TH.jpg)
EPDM BOOT ACCESSORY
Provides a water-tight seal to the collar (stack of the vent)
Seals onto all types of roof materials such as metal, PVC, TPO, tile, rubber membrane and more.
Then for fun they have this one , might just be barely big enought, what ya think :o
(http://roofvents.com/product_thumbs/th-AV-48.jpg)
The last one looks ok but what is that tiny thing on the top?
It is a low pitched roofmaybe 30 to 40 degree slope.
As for snow, I think they measure it by the number of snowflakes that land per year.
I believe it actually snowed here about 65 years ago. They let all the kids out of school so they could see it.
I was thinking along the lines of a simple linear ridge vent.
As it is there is a slight gap in the roof sheeating along the ridge line, and for a leaky 16 x 10 foot garage
I thoiught that would just be about right if I could let the hot air get out that way.
But, gee, that last one sure looks good....
Congratulations Bruce. Everbody has their own "Hard Part". I like framing, roofing isn't bad, I hate nailing sheathing and dread trim.
Have fun ;D
I hate roofing more than framing but then again I did more roofing than framing so I had more chances to hate it. Glad to hear you passed firefox.
Quote from: peternap on December 20, 2007, 06:59:06 AM
... I hate nailing sheathing and dread trim.
Nail sheathing with a gun. ;) I love trim! :) It's the one place where my careful work can be seen. Nobody sees all the stuff hidden in the walls, roof and sub floor. But everyone sees the trim. And if the trim is done good nobody really sees it either. ;D
Woohoo Bruce! How very exciting [cool]
this probably says a lot about our personalities. I don't like trim... and it shows. 1/16" is as close as I can get in anything!
The doing wasn't hard, it was trying to find out all the little rules you have to follow
so that you can pass inspection. I actually like doing this sort of thing, although
this was my first crack at stick framing.
Bruce