I got a new one with another on the way. I forgot how tiring it is to potty train. I also can not find the off switch for this little one. Puppies are cute but i am thinking now they are way too much work.
Yeah, it's some work but once you're done you're done. Of course then there's some other puppy habits to break; chewing and stuff.
We've found that most young puppies learn quickly to use a doggie door to go outside. Makes it a lot easier on yourself as well.
Here's 2 from the last batch we fostered. Yes, they're going to grow up a tad large for that door, but we only keep them until they get adopted. Haven't had any over the summer as we were in the mountains most of the time. Maybe again once the mountains get snowed in.
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That door leads into the utility room where they have a cozy spot under the sink.
Speaking of puppies... my son's dog had 7 pups - but somehow I'm taking care of them now! Two have been given away - I'm thinking of keeping 2... they are 8 wks now - potty trained pretty good except when I have to keep them in the front porch for several hrs - what's the solution for that? I spent an hour this morning cleaning up pee & torn cardboard - they also knocked down a couple plants while climbing (remember we are underground & have some walls that are made with big boulders)
Plus, dogs like to bark! We have the mom right now - she woke us up barking about 2am last night - Glenn went to look & found a possum in the uphill patio - today we got a call from a neighbor asking if we had a rotweiler & a German shepard/pitbull mix running around - someone must have let their dogs loose - so our mama dog was barking at them, I'm sure; plus the deer, raccoons, possums, skunks, coyotes, bobcats, mtn lions, bears.... she's only been up here in the mountains a few days so not used to all this wildlife :o
But the pups sure are cute & sweet! :) Mtn Don, your puppies are exceptionally cute!
My new pup eats her poop. Been to the Vet to figure out why, but it is so disgusting.
We got American Rat Terriers. They better live up to their name and hunt rats and other small vermin.
Poop eating, more elegantly called "Coprophagia
My own dog used to eat her feces. She was a Cairn Terrier. I was told that is was a sign of something missing in their diet, a deficiency of some sorts. Or that the dog was bored, anxious or stressed. Or the dog had parasites. Another vet told us the dog saw it as a snack as there was some undigested matter in the feces.
In the end we got something from a vet that we added to her food. It apparently tasted good on the food, but was really bad tasting when digested and passed through... Just reporting what I was told, never tried it myself. ;D Sandi quit eating her poop after a couple weeks and never did again as far as we could tell. :) Don't remember what the additive was. :'(
Those suggestions are the same the Vet suggested. We are going to treat for parasites and plan to start her on vitamins. The vet suggested some pineapple (canned is ok) in her meal. Dogs do not like their digested pineapple poop. I am stil so grossed out by this situation.
I don't think mine have coprophagia ;) :D because I've shoveled up plenty of poop! :P
Well, I always wondered whether or not eating it, recycling, decreased or increased the final volume. Have to do a study, I guess. Run some numbers. ;D
Thanks for reminding me why I do not need a puppy! Inside dogs came as puppies, outside ones were at least 8 months old when they wandered in.
It seems to be mating season for the coyotes now. Which doesn't do much for the inside dogs, but the yips from up the hill or down by the river drives the outside ones nuts. Typically they each bark seven times. Pause, and start over. Finally, hours later, get tired of it and do a howl.
The howls are kind of fun.
(and then there's dog candy--aka kitty poop)
Hmmm - dogs bred for recycling. When will the green movement end. Oh no -- bad pun there. Green movement. Better get that puppy to the vet. :o
Amanda said.
QuoteTypically they each bark seven times.
Just tried it, Amanda. You are right -- seven times --makes just the right sound.
you need some of that sand for parasites... you take a teaspoon of it in a glass of water and it will kill all the parasites in your intestines... Diamteric earth or some such?... It is a type of silica or glass... I know Don knows exactly what I am talking about already ;D
I know it is expensive...5 bucks a pound and then another 5 bucks to ship it
I am gonna go google it...
Found it... wow I am bad with names what I said was nowhere close
http://www.dirtworks.net/Diatomaceous-Earth.html
Diatomaceous Earth
And it is $16 per ound shipping included... But it kills fire ants... I am getting some... Fire Ants are the worst I have spread filer ant killer here several times and it does not kill them... just forces em to move around my property :(
Someone is getting rich on that stuff. It occurs naturally as the shells of diatoms (dead algae) . I used to hit it occasionally drilling a couple hundred feet or so down. It was a real bear to drill through. slowed the casing way down.
There are large deposits of it near the coast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatom
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Diatom pix from Wikipedia
I think they get into the ants joints. Boric acid powder may help also.
well if it works on fire ants I do not care if the guy gets rich or not
DE info.
http://www.thriftyfun.com/tf334696.tip.html
Don, those pups are cute.
Stinkerbell, good luck with the rat terriers. One of our neighbors has one that is great... a really nice dog with an even temper. My Grandma had one that just died recently after about 14 or 15 years, and she was the meanest, nastiest dog alive... I don't get it... Grandma isn't crabby, but she sure had one heck of a crabby dog. I still have scars on my hands from where she would attack my hands when I came in the door. Now Grandma has a little mutt dog that was a mix of our miniature spitz and our neighbor's long-haired chihuahua (?? I think that's what he was??), and he's both adorable and sweet. He's not much bigger than one of those teacup chihuahuas (he was the runt of the litter.)
When I was in college, I got my other dog, a beardie. My roommate was a Chinese Malaysian girl, and my dog absolutely hated her. (She was the ONLY person he's ever disliked.) When he was still a puppy, he'd stand at the top of the stairs and throw his tennis ball down, and then scramble down and try to catch it. One day, the noise got on my roommate's nerves, and so she locked him up in my upstairs, unairconditioned room without food or water for several hours. When I got home that day, he was desperate for water and drank a half gallon before I even took him out for his walk. So, I walked him and walked him, but he really was holding back. I thought maybe he was so dehydrated that he just couldn't do anything, and so I went back. Just as we came up the stairs, my roommate came out of her bedroom and stormed to the bathroom. She left her bedroom door open just a crack, and Grover knew better than to go in there, but he immediately seized the opportunity that was before him and ran in. I called him and he came right back out, so fast that I didn't think he could have possibly done anything. Five minutes later when my roommate went back into her room and began shrieking, I knew I was wrong! He'd run in, jumped on her bed and left a pile right on the pillow for her! I took her sheets and pillowcase to the university laundry to wash them for her, but I laughed the whole way there... I didn't really blame him. In the more than ten years I've had Grover, that's the only time he's ever pooped in the house!
That is a good one.
A little tom cat we had did something like that to me the day we took him in to get him neutered - right before -- can't remember but seems he peed on my bed.
I know animal shrinks and vets will tell you that animals don't seek revenge, but I've known far too many animals to believe it. Grover smelled so bad today that the kids were pestering me to death to give him a bath... it's too chilly to do it outside, and so we spent from 10:20-1:20 today bathing and grooming the smelly dog in the bathtub. We decided to give him a much needed haircut, too, and it'll be months before I get the dog hair out of everything! He looks pretty comical... nothing like turning a 4-year-old and 3-year-old loose with scissors and clippers.
I had to tell the above story about Grover because I felt totally left out of the 'poop' stories otherwise. ::) Naw, really it just cracks me up every time I think of my roommate shrieking hysterically and using cuss words to describe what the dog had done because she didn't know another word like "poop". Puppies are great fun.
Yeh, I'm still dealing with 5 puppies - they're about 10 wks old now - I've decided I will keep one. Glenn put an ad in the local free ad site on the internet - only 1 call & they haven't called back after Glenn sent them pix :(
They are a lot of fun & really sweet but a lot of work! They follow me everywhere. Haven't noticed them eating any poop yet - that would probably be a lot easier than having to clean up all the piles everyday! :D
Five pups are way more work that five grown dogs... You should charge for them. Every time I try to give stuff away, I can't hardly pay people to take it, but put it in the paper with a price and your phone will be ringing off the hook for a month after they're gone. That's what we did with the puppies our dog had that time... I put them in the paper for $75 each, and got it from all of them but the runt, and I gave him to my grandma because she wanted him. There was a guy calling me for three weeks afterward begging for me to get the little one back from my grandma and he'd pay me $200 for it. And these were just cute little mutts (I think there is a picture of a couple of them on our garden album on our site...) I was amazed. We had one couple drive from Missouri to get one.
QuoteThose suggestions are the same the Vet suggested. We are going to treat for parasites and plan to start her on vitamins. The vet suggested some pineapple (canned is ok) in her meal. Dogs do not like their digested pineapple poop. I am still so grossed out by this situation.
In the meantime, Stink, it would be cool if you didn't let them lick your face in greeting you -- no kisses. ;)
Susie is the puppie who gets to stay with me. She likes Sassy's chair when she is not here. We'll - she was too wet and dirty for me so I took her to the shower -- turned it on and got some shampoo and cleaned her off. She's an outside dog when I'm gone nd Sassy is working. Now she can jump into Sassy's chair without me getting into too much trouble..
Hmmm...what was that slurping sound I heard in the bathroom? hmm
Now that I think about it, I think she was lapping up the little bit of water on the shower floor. If not, at least I flushed. ::)
There are easy ways to train puppies and thent here are hard ways. First of all if you wnt them potty trained you put them outside immediately when they wake up and right after eating every time no matter what in about two weeks they will cry to go out. Never beat a dog or even spank them hard it does no good at all and can make them mean. They don't leanr much as puppies so it is important to only teach them one thing at first the word NO if they are chewing, getting in garbage, pooping, or whatever tell them no! really mean like you mean it. If they stop and come to you pet them and say good dog!. Those are the two things puppies will learn NO and good dog! Dogs by nature want to please so if you keep the directions clear they have a better chance of learning. Don't beat them but if you catch them chewing or inthe garbage just tap your finger on their nose firmly when you say no, they ge tthe point. Rubbin ght enose in the poop or spanking does no good just put them out and even if you had them out and they poop or pee when they come in say NO and put them back outside. I have raised dogs my entire life and thank god the puppies are fixed and ten years old now. they are the two we couldn't give away out of the mother dogs last litter. She is old now too. My daughters Chiwawa behaves perfectly except when my daughter is frustrated with her, never let a dog see you frustrated, they will take advantage of that and keep up their bad behavior at the most invconvienient times. The worst things my dogs do is dog fight amongst themselves and to get them apart two people each grab one tail and pull them back until they stop. They are older so when they start up with their growling at each other I say NO DOGFIGHTING!!! and they sulk off. I have black chow chow and black lab mix so the dogs are very protective but also docile and it works out great the only issue I really have is they don't care for stray cats or other dogs. But I don't feel sorry for them if they can't get along I tie them up or put them in the porch until the company leaves.
Update on the Rat TERRORS...
Lucy is a very sweet little dog who wants to please. Her counter part Ricky is a mean little nasty dog. I regret getting him but my kids seem to like him. We are about 99% potty trained and the poop eating has not been an issue. They are both terrified of my 3 chickens. Ever since they took on the little mean dog (the head chicken and her friend rolled the little dog and attacked him) the dogs are terrified of them.
They are willing to work hard for a treat. If you have no treat in your hand you do no exist to them. What a breed. Pit bulls are easier.
That story reminds me of my daughters dog. The dog was a pup and part wolf well my horses will go after dogs but usuallyt he dog has to go after them first not this one somehow they knew she was part wolf (they are mustangs) anyway that darn dog ran to me for protection with three really upset horses after her. Luckily the horses know who is boss but they really wanted to kill her and she is terrified of cows, horses, everything.
My new puppy, Spike is growing.
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He's he only dog I have ever seen who can walk around the chairs in the living room and climb up in my lap with his eyes closed so he won't have to wake up.
[cool]
Not too much of a puppy anymore... :)
He is the only one who doesn't know that. :)
He looks like Petie from the little Rascals......
Stink, you got it right on the rat "terrors" part. My grandma had one that just died last year, but I'll never forget when that dog was a pup. She used to attack your hands the second you walked in the door, more so if you had gloves on. I had scars on my knuckles for years from that goofy dog. She learned not to mess with me after I was taking care of the farm while Grandpa was in the hospital one time. My mom was spending the nights there, too, but she still had to go into work at 4:30 in the morning, and since Foxy dog seemed to be behaving herself that morning, Mom let her loose in the house for a few minutes before she was going to leave for work. All I know is I awoke to that crazy dog standing on my chest and biting the fire out of my nose! Seeing as I wasn't fully concious, I just grabbed the little gremlin and threw her. She didn't bite me anymore. But boy was she grouchy when she got older!
Our terrors are called Ricky and Lucy. Should be Pepe Le PU and Barbie. Cause the little boy farts all the time and the girl is dumb as rocks.
I'm so proud of Spikey-- He just went out and did a poopoo on demand. Now I don't have to worry. :)
Quote from: StinkerBell on March 27, 2008, 12:42:34 AM
Our terrors are called Ricky and Lucy. Should be Pepe Le PU and Barbie. Cause the little boy farts all the time and the girl is dumb as rocks.
Maybe it's not too late to change their names... ;D
On the up side, my Grandma's neighbor across the street has a rat terrier named Bud, and he's a really good little dog. I'm not sure he's full-blood terror, though... he's a little bigger than a lot of them.
That didn't take long did it. Might be an isolated incident so I would still read the paper on the floor for a while.
He's pretty good -- hasn't had an accident since he was confused with company and odd dogs here.
Glenn I think I found Spikes Daddy.
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Dog For Sale
Free to good home.
Excellent guard dog.
Owner cannot afford to feed him anymore,
as there are no more thieves, murderers,
or molesters left in the neighborhood
for him to eat.
Most of them knew him as 'Holy Shit.'
That is a rhino disguised as a dog......
I wonder of she (on the left) has any trouble getting boy friends?
The amount of poop that dog would generate...... d*
Quote from: Redoverfarm on March 29, 2008, 02:19:42 PM
Glenn I think I found Spikes Daddy.
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Dog For Sale
Free to good home.
Excellent guard dog.
Owner cannot afford to feed him anymore,
as there are no more thieves, murderers,
or molesters left in the neighborhood
for him to eat.
Most of them knew him as 'Holy Shit.'
This was the complete ad.
Somebody got the full grown version. Spike won't get that big, but same family.
My puppy - Spike -- sleeping behind my chair -- may have to change his name to little gassy. [crz]
The better the dog food we feed him, the worse he gets. He is fun though - probably 40 to 50 lbs now - just a guess.
Spike has a eyelid condition common in American Bulldogs. They are too big and the lower ones have the lashes rolled in against the eye scratching the cornea. Too much inbreeding I guess.
Before anybody says anything, No -- I don't have that problem myself. d*
Anyway -- I took him in for surgery Tuesday morning - got him back in the afternoon --
They had to take a crescent shaped piece of skin - Meat? from under both eyes and from the top too.
Want to see? WARNING Fairly graphic. (P/C term for gross.)
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That pulls the eyelashes out and away from the eye. His left one - looking at him was worst -- scratching a bit - it could possibly cause blindness and does cause irritation and matter needing to be cleaned out each day. The Doc said it was not possible to tell right away if he got it corrected totally but it looks pretty good. Swelling should go down in a few days - collar off in a week and stitches out in 2 weeks.
That's why I always get mutts. If breeders were more responsible, purebred dogs would be fine. But my last mutt, an 85 pound shepherd
mix, outlived all the fancy rottweilers in the neighborhood by years. My present dog, a lab/ maybe american eskimo mix named Snapdragon (born Year of the Dragon, is mouthy, girl so named after a flower), gets a "wow, prettiest dog I ever saw" from everyone who sees her. And of course, there's the "cost" factor. And the "rescue" factor too. Dog #1 was dumped in the road in front of our house, dog #2 was born in a crack house, and we were home #4 in her first twelve weeks.
Hope Spike lives a long and happy life after he heals from the surgery. Dogs rule (even if you don't want them to).
I agree that mutts are the best pets. Both of our dogs are fairly purebred (not totally sure about Grover, but he certainly looks full-blood beardie.) Grover is the world's best kids' dog, and generally just a great dog, but something I've discovered is that just as Shepherds are prone to hip displacement and Beagles to cancer, Beardies are prone to epilepsy... other than that, he is a wonderful dog, but it is painful to watch him have a really bad seizure, and the vet has told me that the medicine for the seizures could (and most likely would) do more harm than good and shorten his lifespan. Our little dog is miniature spitz... my mom has raised them for years and I haven't known of one that didn't have some sort of neurosis or issue. They can be really smart, but seems like the smarter ones are also a little catlike... they tend to be fear biters and only bond with one or two at the most people. They are good watch dogs, though. Ornery seems bent and determined to escape, dig, and destroy. He likes the kids, but is really too high strung to be a good kids' dog. I will not ever own another mini-spitz after Ornery is gone. I have a soft spot for big, shaggy, goofy dogs that like everyone... I don't have the patience to deal with a dog that is spastic and nervous... that's what cats are for, and they're entertaining about it, but dogs are supposed to be loyal and friendly and protective of their own. I would have another beardie in a heartbeat, but would prefer it be mixed with something else for his own sake.
I also usually get mutts and wouldn't have paid for Spike (unless I knew what a great dog he would be), but Suzy -my mutt, found him when we were prospecting. He had a 3 inch bullet wound on his left shoulder - he climbed up in my lap after I petted him a bit so we rescued him and a friend familiar with dogs told me what he was and the common problems. The hips could be a later problem. He was an estimated 4 months old when we found him and I think he had been dumped by a breeder. Couldn't make any money off him with his problems - ticks -- eyes infected nearly shut. Carla (ex CHP and animal -horse dog- expert) said white trash breeders do this sort of thing. 3 more giant ones - probably his family were dumped at the same time. He was scared to death and by himself in the bushes after getting shot.
He has a super good personality and Sassy really likes him too so since we weren't out anything to get him, Carla said it would be good to get his eyes fixed. We agreed.
All hail to the dog rescuers of the world. Most of my friends have dogs that had a rough start.
I don't know if this would help your dog with seizures, but for my cat who also had them (recently died at 20) a B vitamin supplement was recommended and seemed to help.
Since we moved back to OK, Grover hasn't had a single seizure that I've seen, though he had several bad ones in the months before we moved from WI. He was rescued from the pound, and I didn't know what he was when I got him... he was probably not more than ten weeks old at the time. I went back one time just to see what critters they had, about four years after I first got Grover, and there was a dog there that was obviously related to him, also a puppy. It looked and acted so much like him it killed me to leave him there. I wondered if the breeder was culling out the dogs with epilepsy maybe? Funny thing was that when Grover was a pup, the pound had him labelled as 'Schnauzer mix' because they didn't know what he was... he was still pretty small and black, and they assumed that must be what he was... I remember when I got him to the truck that day and started looking at his puppy teeth and his big feet and really wondering what I'd gotten myself into... I was afraid he was an Irish Wolfhound or something equally humongous, and I was living in a college apartment at the time. Turns out he is the best inside dog I've ever had, other than the fact he sheds like crazy in the spring, which is not his fault. Even if he weighs 70 lbs, he is a great inside dog. Now, more than a decade later, I wouldn't trade him for the world... don't think a better natured animal ever lived. It was when I took him to the vet the first time that he told me what he thought he was... and he told me that there was someone who periodically left beardie pups at the Stillwater pound, so he pretty much assumed that Grover is purebred. To look at him, he looks it, the big hairy lug.
I may try the vitamin b... I know for his skin issues (he sometimes gets hotspots) tea tree oil and dog food with fish in it seems to help a lot. I'm almost wondering if it was a vitamin D deficiency, though, living in the cold north, that made his seizures worse up there?
Don't know about that, being from Florida. But I have another couple of interesting stories.
My shepherd started developing cataracts--couldn't catch balls or sticks and would bark at us when we came home and then say "oops."
I did some research and put him on about 2,000 mg of Vitamin C per day. Cataracts disappeared! Eyes bright and shiny! Catching balls like a champ! Kept him on this for the next five years, about 250 mg/day, and he could see great until the end.
We also ran into ear hematomas so bad that he had several surgeries and wore that awful cone for an entire summer. Finally one of the surgeries caused what they said was permanent nerve damage on one side of his face. He couldn't blink the eye independently and couldn't be hand fed treats anymore because he had lost fine control. His entire face on that side hung down.
When they started talking about cutting off his ears (!!!!) enough was enough. I gave him coenzyme Q10 and Vitamin K. Nerve damage gone in two weeks, no more hematomas.
A good source for nutritional information, also selling products (mine are on Evo) is http://www.naturapet.com/tools/
Snapdragon says, the best way for my owner to lose weight is to share, oatmeal, apples, potatoes,cheese, romaine lettuce, berries ....................... ;D
While I was posting my last reply, this email was delivered to me. Seems like I'm meant to share it.
A Dog's Purpose (from a 6-year-old)
Being a veterinarian, I had been called to examine a ten-year-old
Irish Wolfhound named Belker. The dog's owners Ron, his wife, Lisa,
and their little boy, Shane, were all very attached to Belker, and
they were hoping for a miracle.
I examined Belker and found he was dying of cancer.
I told the family we couldn't do anything for Belker, and offered to
perform the euthanasia procedure for the old dog in their home.
As we made arrangements, Ron and Lisa told me they thought it would
be good for six-year-old Shane to observe the procedure.
They felt as though Shane might learn something from the experience.
The next day, I felt the familiar catch in my throat as Belker's
family surrounded him. Shane seemed so calm, petting the old dog for
the last time, that I wondered If he understood what was going on.
Within a few minutes, Belker slipped peacefully away.
The little boy seemed to accept Belker's transition without any
difficulty or confusion. We sat together for a while after Belker's
death, wondering aloud about the sad fact that animal lives are
shorter than human lives. Shane, who had been listening quietly,
piped up, 'I know why.'
Startled, we all turned to him. What came out of his mouth next
stunned me. I'd never heard a more comforting explanation.
He said, 'People are born so that they can learn how to live a good
life -- like loving everybody all the time and being nice, right?'
The six-year-old continued, 'Well, dogs already know how to do that, so
they don't have to stay as long.'
Live simply.
Love generously.
Care deeply
Speak kindly.
Remember, if a dog was the teacher you would learn things like:
When loved ones come home, always run to greet them.
Never pass up the opportunity to go for a joyride.
Allow the experience of fresh air and the wind in your face to be
pure ecstasy.
Take naps.
Stretch before rising.
Run, romp, and play daily.
Thrive on attention and let people touch you.
Avoid biting when a simple growl will do.
On warm days, stop to lie on your back on the grass.
On hot days, drink lots of water and lie under a shady tree.
When you're happy, dance around and wag your entire body.
Delight in the simple joy of a long walk.
Eat with gusto and enthusiasm. Stop when you have had enough.
Be loyal. Never pretend to be something you're not.
If what you want lies buried, dig until you find it.
When someone is having a bad day, be silent, sit close by and nuzzle
them gently.
Be always grateful for each new day
Today, I wish you a day of ordinary miracles: May joy dance in your
soul, may love fill your heart and may peace reign in your home.
Sassy was holding our little puppy, Spike, because he was a sleepy baby. My first picture with my new Blackberry Curve phone Sassy bought for me the other day.
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Newest addition to the family. This is Felix (german for "the lucky one").
Creative, what a nice story, thanks for posting. I'm always finding stuff I missed while working & in the valley - don't get on the internet much unless we have a really slow period in the ER...
Spike thinks he's a lap dog... :D He's getting pretty big - probably around 70#! Glenn took that picture shortly after I got out of bed - I had my old sweat pants that are stained with linseed oil from being on my hands & knees applying it to the floors :-\ Hadn't even brushed my hair yet, oh well - the pic is basically of Spike anyway heh
Scott, posted & then saw the picture of Felix, what a cute, sweet puppy! :)
Oh boy, Scott... he looks really ornery. I can see the sparkle in his eyes. Cute, though. And Sassy, someone needs to tell Spike that he is too big to be a lap dog!
Shhh -- he doesn't know that.