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Title: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: Olga on June 11, 2006, 04:36:55 PM
Greetings.

We wish to find out from visitors of the site, what design of kitchen is most interesting and optimum for a small cottage. That they think in occasion of the design of kitchen cuisine created by us.
The client has given to us drawings of the future cottage with the request to develop design of interiors of a cottage. Also the client wished to see the future cottage in a reality. Full drawings of a cottage can be downloaded here (dwg AutoCAD format) - http://www.artbgd.com/downloads/cottage_plan.rar .

Look that from this has left. The big render image of kitchen can be seen here - http://www.artbgd.com/index.php?project=139, http://www.artbgd.com/index.php?project=138 .
(http://www.artbgd.com/picts/arc_kitch2_m.jpg)

How you see the future design of this kitchen?
What would you change or have added in design that the kitchen cuisine became better?

Sincerely, Olga.
Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 11, 2006, 11:45:55 PM
Hi Olga.  Nice to see you again.

We commonly talk of the cooks work triangle from the sink to the refrigerator to the cookstove.  It seems in this kitchen that the cook would have to run back and forth around the table to get to these places.  Possibly getting them closer together would be an advantage.  I'm sure some of the others will have good ideas on this.

The drawings and renderings are very nice.
Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: Olga on June 12, 2006, 10:46:01 AM
Hi.

Very good idea. It becomes valid to cook to work much better at such arrangement of a workplace. I think to present still a variant of an interior of kitchen in style "Hi-Tech".
For those who will want itself to try make an interior of kitchen by means of 3ds max I can to place on a server a scene with textures for free-of-charge uploading and viewing.

Whether we shall look will be interested persons much:))

Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: Amanda_931 on June 12, 2006, 10:41:56 PM
All other things being equal, I'd prefer not to have a (30" high) dining table in the middle of the kitchen.  Nice big island work space (generally 36"--just short of a meter), maybe.  And if I had to have it, I'd really not want the oven opening into a diner's back.  (which it might not quite do, but it would be really awkward to handle anything much of anything--think about a cherry pie for desert with people sitting there)  The Shakers (mostly 19th century religious communities in the US, known for their beautiful furniture and garden seed packets) did design chairs with chopped off backs that would slide completely under a standard size table.  That would work better than chairs that have to stick out for moving around the kitchen when there's nobody sitting there.  

Not sure if it's just the Feng Shui guys or the codes people as well, but if this is the kitchen with the window over the cook top, they don't like that.  Among other things, if you wanted curtains in that window it could be a fire hazard.  Not to mention a pain to clean, and it would get grease from cooking.  Mind you, I had that setup in Nashville and didn't mind it--that window faced a high chain-link fence covered with vines, didn't really need any kind of privacy screening.  But while that wasn't even the worst kitchen I've ever had--let alone the worst I've ever seen--it did qualify as pretty dreadful.
Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: Olga on June 13, 2006, 04:24:32 AM
I completely agree with you. Curtains at a window can really lead to a fire.
I would change places a cooker and a sink.
Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: Amanda_931 on June 13, 2006, 06:19:29 PM
Good thinking.
Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: jonseyhay on June 14, 2006, 06:19:09 AM
dobra den' Olga, :)
Could you tell us if that is a standard layout for a Ukrainian kitchen?

   (http://users.tpg.com.au/jonsey/countryplans/layout.jpg)

Here is the layout for my kitchen showing the work triangle. There are no overhead cabinets and the bench hight is 900mm. You can see how the kitchen fits into the overall plan on my website, here. http://users.tpg.com.au/jonsey/plans.htm
jonesy.
Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: Olga on June 14, 2006, 02:07:40 PM
Greetings.

In Ukraine there are some types of standard houses. There are 4-5 floor houses. They are made of a brick. There are houses from 9 floors. They can be both brick, and panel.

Look at typical houses in Ukraine:
(http://www.artbgd.com/downloads/4-5f_house_s.jpg)
(http://www.artbgd.com/downloads/9f_house_s.jpg)

You can look greater photos here:
http://www.artbgd.com/downloads/4-5f_house_b.jpg
http://www.artbgd.com/downloads/9f_house_b.jpg

Let's consider the house from 9 floors in which I live. There are such houses to one, two or three entrances. At each entrance of 36 apartments. On each floor on 4 apartments. Apartments are with one, two or three rooms, including a bathroom and kitchen. The standard size of kitchen of 14-17 square meters.

There are some standard arrangements of a workplace on kitchen.

Look a standard arrangement of a workplace at me on kitchen.
(http://www.artbgd.com/downloads/my_kitchen.jpg)

At you on kitchen very good arrangement of a place.
I would add overhead cabinets. They are very convenient.
If you have still questions - necessarily set.
We to you can suggest making very good design for your site  :). It will not cost dearly for you. Now we work on a gain of authority. Therefore are always glad to help and offer the services.

Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: jonseyhay on June 14, 2006, 08:44:33 PM
A couple of points about this kitchen design
Overhead cabinets in this case are not practical for a couple of reasons
There is around 4.8 sq meters (51.6sq ft) of useable bench and 3250 lts or 3.25 cubic meters (114.7 cu ft) of storage space in drawers and cabinets. (I think at a pinch She should be able to get by). ;D The longest travel distance is from the sink to the cook top/oven this is 1.8 meters (about 3 steps for a short person). The dinning area is separate from the kitchen with a breakfast bar between.
The brief for this job was no window near the sink and plenty of floor space (I think my cook wants to take up ballroom dancing in her spare time). She has around 4.9 sq meters to work in, enough room for the Bolshoi Ballet. ;D

BTW, Olga, thanks for the photos and offer but this kitchen is amost done and should be in full time use soon.
Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: glenn-k on June 14, 2006, 09:43:00 PM
Jonesy, could you raise your counter tops a few centimeters and give her walk in pantries? :-/

Just a thought....   ;D

Mrs. Goanna Jonesy, would you please put that frying pan down---- I was just kidding. :)
Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: jonseyhay on June 14, 2006, 10:11:43 PM
I think we are safe enough for the moment mate. She's off earning a quid so I can be kept in the lap of luxury that I so richly deserve. ;D I hope by the time she gets a chance to look this post will be long buried, besides I've hidden the frypan  ;)
Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: glenn-k on June 14, 2006, 10:30:50 PM
Thanks, mate.  I was a bit worried about that after I posted it. :-/

Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: jonseyhay on June 15, 2006, 07:25:28 AM
No worries mate, If she finds out we can say it was Peggs fault. He is a lot skinnier than we are so he should be able to outrun her. ;D
Title: Re: The future interior for kitchen.
Post by: bil2054 on June 15, 2006, 09:48:58 PM
You guys are too much! [smiley=grin.gif]

I fellow I worked with in the Port of Tacoma asked for a ride home after we closed down a bar one night.
"Sure, no problem!"
He tried suspiciously hard to get me to come in for coffee, breakfast, or something.
When he didn't show up for two days I figured he had a prize winning hangover, but, you guessed it!
Day number three he shows up with a bandage around his head... he had awakened on the kitchen floor     with a skillet close at hand.

So Olga, back to the subject; one of the reasons I ordered the Victoria's Cottage plans from John is that I like the kitchen layout.  It has the triangle pattern workspace, and I like the passover counter open to the dining area.  I think it maximizes the feeling of open space in a fairly small area.