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Title: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy(Guest) on May 31, 2006, 03:52:55 PM
Big Brother sees you!   :o

free market news RFID capabilities (http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/139/5099/2006-05-31.asp?wid=139&nid=5099)

http://www.ubisense.net/
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on June 01, 2006, 09:11:50 AM
There was that Tom Cruise movie--Minority Report--in which he gets told he'd probably like some product or other when he walks into a store--once while he is on the lam.  The photograph in the second link reminded me of that, and apparently they do have that in mind.

I'd been hearing references to l984 so often that I thought I'd go back and read it.

Instead (in addition, actually) I got the audio version (available at semi-reasonable cost from your friendly local bookstore, paired with Animal Farm--Borders an Independent consortium, probably Barnes and Noble, all have it under their imprint--don't think Audible has it, which is just as well, the old stuff they have tends to be very low fidelity, even if you download it at something that should sound pretty good).

While I felt like I'd like to go back and read bits--"the book" for instance--it was wonderful.  It's loaned out now, don't remember the reader's name--very good in a kind of breathless way, but Animal Farm is read by one of my favorite readers, Patrick Tull, not doing a perfect job this time.

Ahh,  it looks like if you can stand to read it on-line, you can get to the book from the first link.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on June 20, 2006, 05:13:58 PM
An interesting new development -

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20060616105407154

I am not against positive evidence of a crime being used in court to convict a true criminal, but how do we restrain rulings such as the above from being mis-used by power hungry individuals or groups of rogue individuals in the police force.  How do we keep any or all of us from becoming criminals for disagreement with anythnig.  Do you trust all of the police to act responsibly?  It only takes one with the wrong idea and once one gets started the rest jump in like sharks on a swimmer.  I have seen it happen twice personally and many times on the news - even the government controlled national and local media. :)  It is no longer required that you get access to a lawyer.  Any of us can be locked away with no rights to anything- thanks dubya.

Is this where we are headed?  Haliburton is already building concentration camps in the US.

http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2816

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/47/17936


What can we learn from history?  Keep your eyes open.  Maybe I should start a new topic--"Paranoid thought for the day"?

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi_police_state.htm
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on June 20, 2006, 08:23:17 PM
The law is kind of a game.  uhjyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyk, (thank you Hildegarde)

There are rules, everybody who's experienced--like the police--is supposed to know them, and play by them.  Only the cops don't want to have to.  

(Which is probably why Police/law inforcement is or was one of the three professions highest on the list for spouse abuse)

But my first thought on reading about that decision was that the cops are forever raiding the wrong house.  Does this mean that just in case, we're not allowed to defend ourselves if a dozen or so black-clad men who may or may not have police on the backs of their jackets enter our house brandishing guns?  
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on June 21, 2006, 12:08:18 AM
I think Hildegard said it best...  :-?
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on June 21, 2006, 12:16:09 AM
Unfortunately it means that it would be very wise not to defend yourself and to crawl over and lick their Jack-boots clean if they ask because when they are in a group it is not wise to even think about ticking one of them off.

Fresno Swat got a new batch of machine guns one year.  They purposely went to a guys place where he had resisted them once before and raided him so he would protect himself.  When he did, everyone got to try out their new machine guns.  He may not have been a very good guy but this was a planned occasion- I guess you could say pre-meditated.  He was one of my old customers for buildings.

I used to work on police cars when I was a mechanic and got to know some of them quite well.  One told me they always carried a spare gun and bag of dope in the trunk in case they screwed up.  Might have to discover some evidence. :-/  This is a generalization but obviously happens sometimes.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on June 23, 2006, 09:06:01 PM
[size=36]Thank you Sassy.

H. von Bauncen
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Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on August 09, 2006, 07:43:07 PM
Bloggers - Beware ---

What you don't tell can send you to a  Federal Detention Center.  

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1222780,00.html

http://www.sphere.com/search?partner=time&q=sphereit:http%3A//www.time.com/time/nation/article/0%2C8599%2C1222780%2C00.html

War has been declared on your rights to know and the rights of reporters to tell you.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on October 01, 2006, 02:14:59 PM
Here's  a link to a very short video on Orwell's 1984

http://www.teambio.org/2006/10/you-awake-key-moment-in-1984/
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on October 05, 2006, 02:51:35 PM
"Behind Winston's back the voice from the telescreen was still babbling away about pig-iron and the overfulfilment of the Ninth Three-Year Plan. The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it, moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live -- did live, from habit that became instinct -- in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized. "

(https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e44/kathykrn/041006cctv.jpg)  Great Britain

"Smith!" screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. "6079 Smith W.! Yes, you! Bend lower, please! You can do better than that. You're not trying. Lower, please! That's better, comrade. Now stand at ease, the whole squad, and watch me."  Orwell's 1984

Shouting Telescreens Announce United Kingdom Of Fascism
State launches psychological warfare as establishment manufactured Clockwork Orange mind control greases the skids for slavery - watch video below...

1984 (http://blog.myspace.com/ignoranceisntbliss)
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on October 15, 2006, 12:35:14 PM
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/14/0334222

"A new technology is to be trialled in Debrecen Airport in Hungary that will involve tagging all passengers with high-powered RFID tags. From the Register article: 'People will be told to wear radio tags round their necks when they get to the airport. The tag would notify a computer system of their identity and whereabouts. The system would then track their activities in the airport using a network of high definition cameras. "[The tags] have got a long range, of 10m to 20m," said Dr. Paul Brennan of University College London's antennas and radar group which developed the tags, "and the system has been designed so the tag can be located to within a meter, and it can locate thousands of tags in one area at a given time."' The system is being touted for 'Improving airport efficiency, security and passenger flow by enhanced passenger monitoring.' BBC is also reporting this story, and brings up such hurdles to the project as 'finding a way of ensuring the tags cannot be switched between passengers or removed without notification.' As for any mention of the 'hurdle' of people's rights, the article vaguely and briefly states that 'The issue of infringement of civil liberties will also be key,' but doesn't bother to go into any pesky details."
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on October 15, 2006, 08:32:55 PM
I wonder how the Hungarians will respond to that.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on November 28, 2006, 03:09:54 PM
Amanda, don't know, but ran across a video that played on CNBC today  called Big Brother Big Business (http://www.freepressinternational.com/)   Verrrrry interesting...  that link goes to some other videos, hopefully this will take you to the proper one - just look up the Big Brother Big Business - CNBC if it doesn't.  http://www.freepressinternational.com/
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on November 30, 2006, 02:21:51 PM
Here's another one Accutracking (http://www.accutracking.com/) for just $5.99 month you can know where your loved ones are at all times  :-/ :o
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on November 30, 2006, 08:01:55 PM
We might want to know about them, but having them know about us????

Let's not.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on December 04, 2006, 10:43:22 PM
Better than that --- anyone with a cell phone - any brand - can have a program downloaded without their knowledge that turns on the microphone, so big brother can listen to your most intimate moments or anytime they want to listen --- they may be listening to you now.  The only way to stop it is to pull out your battery.

It will transmit every word you say to anyone within talking distance without you turning it on.  Your cell phone can be programmed by them to turn on even if you have turned it off.  

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-6140191.html

QuoteFBI taps cell phone mic as eavesdropping tool

The FBI appears to have begun using a novel form of electronic surveillance in criminal investigations: remotely activating a mobile phone's microphone and using it to eavesdrop on nearby conversations.

The surveillance technique came to light in an opinion published this week by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan. He ruled that the "roving bug" was legal because federal wiretapping law is broad enough to permit eavesdropping even of conversations that take place near a suspect's cell phone.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on December 05, 2006, 10:24:54 PM
Just at the moment the cell phone is in the truck.

Have fun listening!

They might have heard a really impressive howl from Cherty, her brother CB and Little Bob Porcellino earlier.

Might have been replying to the Coyotes.  Might have been a siren a mile or so off.  The inside dogs didn't pay any attention.

(Little Bob is the newest of the dogs, some Chihuahua in there, thinks Cherty Pie is his mommy, distrusts humans a lot--even me, unless I'm wielding peanut butter.  But he's soooo cute!)
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on December 06, 2006, 01:15:30 AM
Your dog names are so creative, Amanda.  You must spend hours trying to figure out a name when you get an new one.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on December 07, 2006, 07:09:32 PM
No, I just choose the obvious, or wait for them to tell me.  And I did have a No-Name cat at one stage.

I've had my share of dogs with really common names--Daisy, Buster, (Little) Bob, (Little) Starr, Gabe.

Cherty may not have been so obvious--our chert is a light terracotta color, but once you've met her that's the only name that works.  But her brother's original name has been supressed because he's not like that at all.

Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on December 09, 2006, 02:43:20 AM
I had a dog - the tip of his tail was white -- his name was Tippy.  We had another with 4 white feet - his name was Boots.  Had another one - a Dalmation - her name was Spot -another - liked to roll in dead animals - her name was Stinky - another -- liked to eat dog manure - his name was $h*thead, and even another --  a Chihuahua with a broken back - we taped sticks to her legs to slide on - her name was Sled Dog. (Note that she never seemed to be in pain so I didn't put her away.)

If they came with names we let them keep them .  Based on the above, that seems like it is a wise move.  :-/

All in all I think 1984 was written by an insider also. :-/
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on December 09, 2006, 11:58:32 AM
Snipperkins (feline) has a little white snip on her head--she went through Snip, Snips, and even Snipper before we settled on Snipperkins.

She was one of the animals I was out chasing at 10:00 last night when it was 10 degrees F out.  Trying unsuccessfully to get her in--the prospect of food this morning brought her inside.  Cherty was curled up in the middle of the driveway, so she came inside happily.

But not Little Bob.  I'm not even sure where he spent the night.  But it didn't get much colder.  And he's fine this morning.

Daisy the dog was originally named Honey.  I did change that.  And she was Daisy Lee, the allegedly mostly lab, for all her days.  She was not a dog to be named Honey, even if she was a sweetie.  

The non-governmental employees in 1984 seemed to be able to live semi-normal lives, one singing as she hung wash on the line.  They might even have been able to have pets.  Which the government types, living in huge high-rise apartment buildings didn't seem to.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on December 09, 2006, 02:02:52 PM
Just came across this bit of main stream media info.

UPI ---- http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/13189.php

Now they will be able to track me with their handheld computer right down to the exact cardboard box I am sleeping under.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on December 09, 2006, 02:15:08 PM
It was picked up by ThunderBay indymedia on an April 2.  

QuoteApril Fools! DOH!
by Robert Glass-cock Monday, Aug. 30, 2004 at 8:58 PM

He also wondered why nobody else had picked up the story.

;)


Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on December 09, 2006, 02:20:21 PM
Thanks for the update, Amanda.  I guess I'm still safe for a little bit. :)

I found this trying to see where Thunder Bay was .
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: MountainDon on January 06, 2007, 03:15:28 AM
Love dogs! Here we again... diverging from topic.... We are involved with a local animal rescue organization. We do dogs, allergic to cat dander. We do puppies; get them in batches/litters of 4 to 6. They are all so lovable, so eager to be loved. I try to name them all, but after 130 in 2 years it gets to be a task, start repeating. Got a photo album of each and every one, otherwise I'd never be able to sort one out from the other.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on January 06, 2007, 12:13:27 PM
That sounds like a real project.  I've always had dogs until the last few years.  I'm away too much now for a week at a time.  Rover can't go.


A new bit of topic stuff-- here is something everyone probably knows by now--- Big Brother is watching.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/04/AR2007010401702_pf.html

QuoteA "signing statement" attached to a postal reform bill on Dec. 20 says the Bush administration "shall construe" a section of that law to allow the opening of sealed mail to protect life, guard against hazardous materials or conduct "physical searches specifically authorized by law for foreign intelligence collection."

White House and U.S. Postal Service officials said the statement was not intended to expand the powers of the executive branch but merely to clarify existing ones for extreme cases.

"The administration is playing games about warrants," Martin said. "If they are not claiming new powers, then why did they need to issue a signing statement?"
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on January 06, 2007, 02:45:26 PM
Someplace it was published that the law that the signing statement was attached to specifically prohibited warrantless mail opening.

(sigh)

Of my five dogs, I only went looking for one.  I was very happy having only one dog.  

In Nashville, there was a period of about a year in which a cat a month appeared--always at that stage between kitten and cat when those who say "I LOVE kittens but I hate CATS, this thing is becoming a cat" so they decide that--he--or she--will have to go.  After a while I didn't even bother trying to find homes for them.  Some of them were pretty strange.  Including the only cat I've ever had who made up games to play with me.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on February 09, 2007, 01:39:34 PM
The Brain Scan that Can Read People's Intentions (http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2009229,00.html)
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on February 09, 2007, 09:40:51 PM
Yeah, that was sitting in my mailbox when I came on-line tonight.

That and the story with no link, and I'm having trouble finding it, that somebody (possibly a person planted as a congressional staffer by the Justice Department) had slipped a clause into the continuation of the Patriot Act that gives the Executive Department--not the Judiciary--the ability to appoint federal judges permanently.  It may be taken away.

But something like the reading brain scans for intention is what will allow the para- and quadra-plegic to walk.  Unless they are afflicted like an acquaintance--her bones started fusing together when she was a child.

Not sure there is any benign reason at all for allowing the Justice Department to appoint federal judges.

I did find this, from the Nostradamus Online's Free 4th chapter of the book they want you to buy--don't know if that interpretation is really supposed to refer to neurological work   :-/:

QuoteAntichrist profits from radar research in Europe
(Century I, Quatrain 6)

Research on a more sophisticated type of radar and sensing devices will give greater information to the operator, i.e. an airplane pilot. But the first experiments with the technology will fail in a disastrous accident, when the vibrations emitted by the device cause the chassis of the plane to become weakened and dangerous. The scientists involved with the research will have to temporarily abandon the research because of diplomatic breakdowns, the threat of war, etc.

This will take place before the Antichrist comes to full power. It will happen in Europe at the time the Antichrist is strengthening his base of power in the Middle East. The devices are currently under development but have not been tested yet. But this is another historical event that will permit the Antichrist to take over Europe.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on March 09, 2007, 12:46:37 PM
"Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right
of the people peaceably to . . . petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
– The First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States

Congressman Waxman advances grave new threat
to citizens' 'right to petition' government officials

http://www.nrlc.org/FreeSpeech/WaxmanDavisArticle.pdf
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on March 10, 2007, 09:45:16 AM
That might be overkill, but it would be nice to know if--and which--lobbying organization was behind the latest statement of our congresswoman.

And who was funding them, and by how much.

The organization that put out that .pdf is, by the way, anti-stem-cell research, and really wanted to save Terry Schiavo (and probably keep her on medicare).
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on March 11, 2007, 02:19:36 AM
Here is a link to an article on stem cell research - focusing on adult stem cells & the success that has been achieved on several fronts, whereas, there have been no successful results with embryonic stem cells.  You may not like the source & I don't always agree with their politics but I wonder why there is no publicity for the adult stem cell successes or even the umbilical cord stem cells...  :-/

http://www.citizenlink.org/FOSI/bioethics/cloning/A000002271.cfm
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on April 01, 2007, 10:54:28 AM
George Orwell, Big Brother is watching your house!

According to the latest studies, Britain has a staggering 4.2million CCTV cameras - one for every 14 people in the country - and 20 per cent of cameras globally. It has been calculated that each person is caught on camera an average of 300 times daily.

Use of spy cameras in modern-day Britain is now a chilling mirror image of Orwell's fictional world, created in the post-war Forties in a fourth-floor flat overlooking Canonbury Square in Islington, North London.

On the wall outside his former residence - flat number 27B - where Orwell lived until his death in 1950, an historical plaque commemorates the anti-authoritarian author. And within 200 yards of the flat, there are 32 CCTV cameras, scanning every move.  go to link for rest of story...  :-/

http://jkn.com/View?j=788764.931880553073
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on May 01, 2007, 01:03:52 AM
Cool -- I guess I may have gotten someones attention.

Look what I found on my computer.  Big Brother?

Is that you?

QuoteESurveiller is an internet monitoring and surveillance spyware software. This program records keystrokes and mouse clicks, instant message conversations, Internet activity and applications used. It stores this information in log files on the hard drive or optionally it can email them to a predetermined address.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: MountainDon on May 01, 2007, 01:12:14 AM
At least you did discover the menace!   :)  If you don't mind, how did the discovery come about; routine sys check, something made you look deeper, etc. ??  I've mostly been lucky I think
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on May 01, 2007, 01:42:53 AM
Computer has been locking up lately.  

This may have been a Microsoft installed one from a failed update but not much way to know for sure.

I bought a new Spyware detection program and it found it on a deep scan.

It's called Uniblue SpyEraser.  It found 19226 potential threats/pieces of spyware etc.  Wild Tangent is a gaming program that HP loads on the system I think -- It had thousands of threats.

The ESurveiller was a bit of a surprise though.

Note that this happened running Norton Firewall and Security.  Must have slipped in with a downloaded file somehow.  Funny Norton didn't find it.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on May 01, 2007, 12:51:24 PM
Jonesy sent me some info from Symantec that shows that this was a manual install.

As near as I can tell the only place it may have come from is Microsoft on an approved automatic install so it still indicates what can be done over the net without our knowledge.  It shows as running entirely in stealth mode - no indication it is there unless some other utility finds it..
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: MountainDon on May 01, 2007, 03:49:10 PM
Mysterious stuff. I googled and found you can D/L the software and do nefarious things with it yourself

http://www.download3k.com/e-Surveiller-spy-software/Download-Free-esurveiller.exe.html
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on May 01, 2007, 10:44:43 PM
Yup - I guess you can set it up hidden on anyones computer and have it send you the info via e-mail.  

Shoot --- it's getting to where I barely have enough time to read the forum let alone waht's on someone else's computer.  I guess it's more for corporate types who don't trust their peers.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: MountainDon on May 09, 2007, 03:53:29 PM
You car may be spying on you!

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-6731442-1.html?tag=nl.e501

It can slice both ways

http://news.com.com/Rocky+road+for+car+black+boxes/2009-1041_3-5604449.html

& more, more or less same, but slight differences

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/nation/stories/DN-blackboxdog_02nat.ART.State.Bulldog.240a842.html
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0510/03/A01-335316.htm
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on May 10, 2007, 12:10:26 AM
Looks like no new cars for me. :-/
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: MountainDon on May 10, 2007, 01:35:17 AM
Well, you do have that old Dodge....  ::) It's pre everything.
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on May 11, 2007, 10:11:15 PM
I need to fix a couple things then I could drive it.  Sometimes - seldom happens but, when I get behind an old car, I just breath deeply and inhale the fumes and remember the old days. :)
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: MountainDon on May 11, 2007, 10:15:12 PM
You've got the smell right! I can always tell when there's an older out of tune carburetted vehicle ahead.  :'(
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on May 11, 2007, 10:18:18 PM
The difference between you and me, Don is that I like the smell. ;D
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Amanda_931 on May 14, 2007, 08:46:13 PM
Interesting.  and the comments to the stories have been pretty much all over the place.

Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 21, 2007, 11:56:28 AM
Looks like big brother has been sneaking in the back door on us for years.

QuoteThe BIG controversy of 1946 ........ the new rule ....... ya gotta tattoo your goat.
(letter to the editor The Goat World - October 1946):

Dear Sir, I have just read Mrs. John's letter in the GOAT WORLD about tattooing. We are absolutely opposed to it. Is it not enough to torture the kids by dehorning and disbudding?

We are in full accord with Mrs. John's letter, and anything that can be done to alter this rule has our wholehearted support. I am speaking only for ourselves, not for our association, the San Joaquin Valley Dairy Goat Association, but this association has gone on record as opposing tattooing. Mrs. Archie C. Berry, Clovis, Calif.

(some excerpts from letters to The Goat World - May to November 1946):

"the only good that tattooing does is that it makes business for those that have tattooing merchandise for sale"

"It seems to me that it would be better to give it ( tattooing) a fair and unprejudiced trial until it proves its value, or the reverse."

"I will not tattoo any of my goats"
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 22, 2007, 11:27:37 AM
Now over there -- soon to be here I would guess.  

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42958000/jpg/_42958445_drone_416x288.jpg)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6676809.stm
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on May 23, 2007, 01:43:52 AM
And yet another one...   The Van with Xray Vision (http://www.vloggingtheapocalypse.com/view_video.php?viewkey=19d22b51c68001e7e0e5)
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on June 01, 2007, 07:14:43 PM
You may remember I mentioned the police officer I knew telling me of the gun and dope in the trunk in case of a botched raid.  Well -- here it is -- current events - the police state at its finest.

http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/51151/
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on June 23, 2007, 11:30:39 PM
US Military on US soil.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2007/06/special_operations_prepared_fo.html?nav=rss_blog
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on June 29, 2007, 02:24:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPkfTtUa-fk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flonelantern%2Eorg%2Fsite%2Findex%2Ephp%3Foption%3Dcom%5Ffrontpage%26Itemid%3D114

NSA spying
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn-k on August 17, 2007, 08:36:27 AM
My son went to Hawaii about a week ago.  On the way back into the mainland TSA said the computer flagged his name and they pulled him in and did a complete search of him and his girlfriend.

I assume it was probably because of our postings so they put our name in their computer.  They can't stand it when you tell the truth about what they are up to.  It's not about terror --- they are the terrorists.  It's a control thing. Keep the people in fear and they will willingly give up all of their liberties for protection from the state.  Another lesson learned from Hitler.  Check out all of the parallels.  Don't be afraid.  1984 is here :)



Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on January 11, 2008, 02:02:35 PM
Big Brother to control thermostats in homes?
Proposed mandate would grant utility companies unlimited remote access to regulate temperatures
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59639
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: MountainDon on January 11, 2008, 06:11:46 PM
I saw that on Boortz. There's no end to the 'do-gooders' ideas.  :-*
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on March 10, 2008, 11:30:18 AM
http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis124.htm
YOU WILL COME TO LOVE BIG BROTHER

By Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D.
March 10, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

[Note: In my last article, I indicated that the power elite at the most recent Bilderberg meeting may have "directed a pullback" (at least temporarily) of an attack on Iran," given Russia's and China's objections. It would be much easier to attack Iran's oil ally, Venezuela, with its troublesome leader Hugo Chavez. But the U.S., couldn't just attack Venezuela without an incident. What if U.S. ally Colombia just happened to have an incursion into Venezuela, and Venezuela responded with military action? The U.S. would then militarily have to come to the aid of Colombia and oust Chavez, wouldn't it? The question is whether anyone would be gullible enough to believe such a scenario would happen just by accident!]

Most people see George Orwell's 1984 (published 1949) as fiction, but Orwell had been a Fabian Socialist and was actually warning people about a planned future dictatorship under Big Brother. When Big Brother's agent O'Brien is torturing Winston, who eventually reluctantly submits, O'Brien tortures him again and Winston is bewildered because he has already submitted. However, O'Brien explains that the goal is to have people submit not out of fear, but because they have actually come to love Big Brother and his rule over them.

Another work most view as fiction is Aldous Huxley's BRAVE NEW WORLD (1932). However, it too was about a real future we will face. On March 20, 1962, Huxley at U.C.-Berkeley revealed there will be "scientific dictatorships of the future." He stated: "If you can get people to assent to the state of affairs in which they are living, the state of servitude,... it seems to me that the nature of the ultimate revolution with which we are now faced is precisely this—that we are in process of developing a whole series of techniques which will enable the controlling oligarchy, who have always existed and presumably always will exist, to get people actually to love their servitude. People can be made to enjoy a state of affairs which by any decent standard they ought not to enjoy. And these methods, I think, are a real refinement on the older methods of terror, because they combine methods of terror with methods of acceptance. Among the various other methods which one can think of, there is, for example, the pharmacological method,... and the result would be that you can imagine a euphoric which would make people thoroughly happy even in the most abominable circumstances. I mean these things are possible!"

  con't at link above
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: ScottA on March 10, 2008, 04:48:50 PM
Can I just opt out of all this and start my own little society?
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: gandalfthegrey on March 10, 2008, 04:51:13 PM
Like the ones in Berkley in the 60s? :)
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn kangiser on March 10, 2008, 10:59:04 PM
Hey -- far out, man.

Come on over, Scott --- let's see what we can do.  I've already been trying.

http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=2407.0
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: Sassy on August 29, 2008, 03:22:59 PM
New Spy Software Coming On-Line: "Surveillance in a Box" Makes its Debut

by Tom Burghardt

You've heard of the FBI's "Quantico Circuit" and were outraged by illegal warrantless wiretapping by Bushist minions. To no avail, you flooded Congress with emails and phone calls, angered by the bipartisan "FISA Amendments Act of 2008" and the swell party thrown by AT&T for "Blue Dog" Democrats in Denver this week for the convention.

But just in time for a new administration (and the bundles of cash always at the ready for the expanding homeland security market), comes a complete "surveillance in a box" system called the Intelligence Platform!

According to New Scientist, German electronics giant Siemens has developed software allegedly capable of integrating

    ...tasks typically done by separate surveillance teams or machines, pooling data from sources such as telephone calls, email and internet activity, bank transactions and insurance records. It then sorts through this mountain of information using software that Siemens dubs "intelligence modules". (Laura Margottini, "Surveillance Made Easy," New Scientist, 23 August 2008)

New Scientist reports that the firm has sold the system to some 60 countries in Europe and Asia. Which countries? Well, Siemens won't say.

However, privacy and human rights advocates say the system bears a remarkable resemblance to China's "Golden Shield," a massive surveillance network that integrates huge information databases, internet and email monitoring, speech and facial recognition platforms in combination with CCTV monitoring.

Designed specifically for "fusion centers" or their European/Asian equivalents, the Intelligence Platform promises to provide "real-time" high-tech tools to foil terrorist plots before they're hatched (or keep tabs on antiwar/antiglobalization activists).

The latest item in the emerging "intelligent" software niche market, Intelligence Platform has been "trained" on a large number of sample documents to zero in on names, phone numbers or places from generic text. "This means it can spot names or numbers that crop up alongside anyone already of interest to the authorities, and then catalogue any documents that contain such associates," New Scientist avers.

In the UK, the Home Office announced it plans to provide law enforcement, local councils and other public agencies access to the details of text messages, emails and internet browsing. This follows close on the heels of an announcement last May that New Labour was considering building a massive centralized database "as a tool to help the security services tackle crime and terrorism." According to The Guardian   con't @
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9983

Well, Internet 2 is quickly being implemented as Comcast starts to limit bandwidth - don't leave your computer on all day, especially with several open tabs on Mozilla Firefox or you might be looking at a huge bill...   

AP
Comcast to make monthly Internet use cap official
Thursday August 28, 6:21 pm ET
Comcast to set official limit on Internet use to deter bandwidth hogs

NEW YORK (AP) -- Comcast Corp., the nation's second-largest Internet service provider, Thursday said it would set an official limit on the amount of data subscribers can download and upload each month.

On Oct. 1, the cable company will update its user agreement to say that users will be allowed 250 gigabytes of traffic per month, the company announced on its Web site.

Comcast has already reserved the right to cut off subscribers who use too much bandwidth each month, without specifying exactly what constitutes excessive use.
  http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080828/comcast_internet_cap.html?.v=2
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: akemt on August 30, 2008, 08:29:47 PM
So I couldn't open the "car spying on you" link, but dh has been *impressed* with OnStar's ability for years --and what California, apparently, has been wanting to do with it.  There is more than one reason why we will never own a new vehicle...
Title: Re: Orwell's 1984 is here!
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 31, 2008, 12:24:35 AM
It opened for me -- about black boxes - tattletales in cars -- Mine is and will likely always be too old - I hope.