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Title: Limits on shed roof pitch
Post by: fritz on April 29, 2006, 08:45:21 AM
Hey all, I'm still playing on paper with roof designs.   I have a question about shed roofs.

On a 12 x 24 based on the little house plans, would it be possible to have a shed roof pitch of 8:12 or 6:12?  This would make the side walls 8" on the low side and 14' or 16" on the high side.

if you remember my previous design:

http://www.countryplans.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1134788948/32#32

Now I'm exploring a shed roofs on each end facing opposide directions with a gable roof of the same pitch over the dog trot.

TIA all.

Title: Re: Limits on shed roof pitch
Post by: glenn-k on April 29, 2006, 08:58:41 AM
I don't see any reason you couldn't.  May be a bit odd where it joins the dog trot.  The back corners wouldn't be very useable unless you extended the short wall a bit.

You may want to draw it all up and draw cross sections cuts with dimensions to see if you like it.
Title: Re: Limits on shed roof pitch
Post by: fritz on April 29, 2006, 09:07:24 AM
Agreed on "odd" but my inital sketches are interesting or maybe just curious  :) .  I'll see if I can post a concept sketch.

Title: Re: Limits on shed roof pitch
Post by: jraabe on April 29, 2006, 12:58:39 PM
No reason at all that the Little House plans (http://www.jshow.com/y2k/listings/29.html) can't be modified with a steep shed roof.

It just so happens I was playing with this sketch a few days ago.
(http://i3.tinypic.com/wrxh7p.jpg)
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Title: Re: Limits on shed roof pitch
Post by: fritz on April 29, 2006, 01:40:59 PM
here's my attempt on my dog trot design with opposing shed roofs

Forgive my 3d skills --- in the front view, the cabin floats about 8 feet off the ground  :o  Not my intention.....  This is based on the 12' little house and a 12:8 pitch

(http://www.digitalstoryteller.com/dogtrotversion5shed12-8-2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limits on shed roof pitch
Post by: peg_688 on April 29, 2006, 02:55:35 PM
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skills --- in the front view, the cabin floats about 8 feet off the ground  :o .....  This is based on the 12' little house and a 12:8 pitch

(http://www.digitalstoryteller.com/farm/uploads/images/dogtrotversion5shed12-8.jpg)

 



    [size=12]   Oh ya sure Fritz we can make er hover ;) No problem mo  :o Given enought money ;)

 So what do you do with all that ceiling space ??   A walk way?

  I like the dbl. gables better for looks and function , of course if it's got to hover  who cares about a little lost heat ;)

Just kigging of course  ;)  Well not about the look and function part ;)

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Title: Re: Limits on shed roof pitch
Post by: fritz on April 29, 2006, 07:01:15 PM
If it can't hover, maybe I can prop it up with  2 or 3 2'x's and call it good.  ;)

As for the extra roof -- I was thinking sleeping loft  on an end -- provides a *touch* more headroom than the 12' wide 12:12 pitch.  

I did it kind of as a "what if" joke -- and then when I saw it, I kind of liked it.  (I know, to each their own.)

I also like how it opens up the small space -- the higher windows let in western sun into the smaller sleeping cabin and eastern into the larger cooking / gathering space.

In design, there is such a fine line between "eclectic" and "bizarre."
Title: Re: Limits on shed roof pitch
Post by: glenn-k on April 29, 2006, 07:07:37 PM
Cool way to separate the sleeping beauties from the party animals. :)
Title: Re: Limits on shed roof pitch
Post by: peg_688 on April 30, 2006, 01:05:43 AM
  [size=12]   Fritz another thing I don't like about it and this is JMO is it's to tall for it's width.

 The place we're doing with the let in ledger is the same way , most folks that stop by say it looks like a trailer on stiltes  ::) And it is shakie the roofer could feel it move when the plumbers where working below. Sort of a sway feeling , so course when normal people are in the house there won't be as much banging / drilling sort of stuff going on but it a wind storm at night in the loft I expect there will be some feeling of movement.  Not enought lateral walls , combined with the lenght of the studs .

 I'm not saying it's going to fall down here that won't happen , but it will move a bit .

 Your place if you build it won't have the main floor joist 8' up like that one which also is part of the moving / swaying .   They should have used 2 x12 floor joists ,instead of 9 7/8 BCI's IMO that would result in a stiffer floor.

 Anyway like I have said I don't designum I just buildum. And it meets or exceeds all required Codes  ;)Eh manhatten ;)

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