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Title: electrical rough-in - any photos?
Post by: Mia on April 16, 2013, 01:55:21 PM
I can't seem to find any photos of finished rough-in electrical wiring. I mean, like a whole room, not just one outlet or one switch.  Does anyone have any to share?  I know that some requirements can be different in some areas, but there are a lot of similarities thanks to NEC.
I will take some photos of our wirng as we go, maybe share them later.

Thanks
Title: Re: electrical rough-in - any photos?
Post by: MountainDon on April 16, 2013, 03:22:25 PM
anything in particular you are seeking?
Title: Re: electrical rough-in - any photos?
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 16, 2013, 06:13:53 PM
I don't think you are going to find a "all included photo".  Each room is different.  Depends on what you want in a room as to the way you would wire it up.  You might pick up a electrical basic book at one of the big box stores which will give you examples that might help.  If you have an individual question as to "how" I am sure someone can guide or direct you to the solution. 
Title: Re: electrical rough-in - any photos?
Post by: Huge29 on April 16, 2013, 10:53:04 PM
I think the book may do you good, no need to buy one, try out your library.  Mine has tons of such books, check out ten at a time until you find one with just the right number of pics for you.
Title: Re: electrical rough-in - any photos?
Post by: Rob_O on April 17, 2013, 12:28:07 AM
Quote from: Mia on April 16, 2013, 01:55:21 PM
I can't seem to find any photos of finished rough-in electrical wiring. I mean, like a whole room, not just one outlet or one switch.  Does anyone have any to share?  I know that some requirements can be different in some areas, but there are a lot of similarities thanks to NEC.
I will take some photos of our wirng as we go, maybe share them later.

Thanks

NEC specifies a lot of things like number of outlets per room, maximum number of outlets on a circuit, distance between outlets, blah blah blah... The only real difference is which version your inspector is using as the rules change from year to year and state to state
Title: Re: electrical rough-in - any photos?
Post by: Mia on April 18, 2013, 06:06:38 PM
Thanks, all.
We have looked in books, every library book we can find that might have photos of wiring.  We own 2 books with current code info, & lots of older books that are pretty much useless.  Can find lots of drawings of how circuits should should run, but not photos. 
What I am hoping to find is a photo of one whole wall, either living room or bedroom or kitchen, with the rough-in wiring done, like it is supposed to be.  There are photos of wiring mistakes, but not a whole room (or even one wall) done right. 
My husband has wired most of the kitchen outlets, & the boxes look right, but the cable doesn't look right to me.  It's kinda slack between outlets.  And I don't know if it is required for the cable to run through the stubs above the outlets, like, at 20" above the floor for oulets that are 12" above the floor.  (kitchen outlets are higher of course)

So, that is what I am looking for & not finding.
Title: Re: electrical rough-in - any photos?
Post by: MountainDon on April 18, 2013, 06:57:35 PM
As far as I remember there is no stated rule about keeping the wire taut between points A & B, but it is usual practice. The rules revolve more around proper stapling...  sorry no pictures

-- Within 8 in. of boxes without cable clamps or within 12 in. of boxes with cable clamps. Most plastic boxes for two or more switches have built-in cable clamps.
-- Every 4 ft. 6 in. along framing members like joists and studs. This is the maximum distance. Many electricians put them closer as needed.
-- Within 12 in. of where a cable runs through a hole and continues along a framing member, like a ceiling joist.

Because cables must be kept at least 1-1/4 in. from the face of studs, you can't staple them side by side along a 2x4. The electrical code also prohibits you from placing more than one cable under standard 1/2-in. staples.

I work from one point and run the wire through the stud holes, staple at the beginning end, go to the other, pull taut and staple again at the other end.

The ADA does have some height restrictions on switch and receptacle heights, but that does not apply to typical residences.

Inspectors I've had seem to concentrate on stapling the right distances / spacing as well as having left sufficient length for all the wires in a box (6" IIRC) and not having too many wires in a box. And grounds with metal boxes.

They also seem to like seeing things neat and tidy in the service panel. Wires making right angle turns and runs being vertical or horizontal, not diagonally from here to there. Not sure if that's code, but it does look neater, makes it look more like you know what you're doing.
Title: Re: electrical rough-in - any photos?
Post by: flyingvan on April 18, 2013, 07:29:29 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7vWOL57w_-0/Ti2LirKAvEI/AAAAAAAABao/3inDElXwkZE/s1600/kitchen+wiring.bmp)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U6TqIiWUg7Y/Ti2KrqvEHAI/AAAAAAAABak/IuiKLWSHFOg/s1600/panel.bmp)

Does this help at all?
Title: Re: electrical rough-in - any photos?
Post by: Mia on April 20, 2013, 02:13:55 PM
Yes, thank you!  I am much reassured.  we seem to be doing it right.  and the inspector will let us know if we aren't.    8)