I finished the log cabin recently and have begun to set up the appliances. I am off the grid and will be using propane to fuel the range, fridge and lights. I hooked up the range last night and the burners worked, but i couldnt get the oven to fire. i converted the regulator on the back of the range (as well as the burner orfices). The oven is "electric ignition" but from what i read, it is still possible to use- but just have to use a flame to get it going. Has anyone ran into this problem before?
What make/model?
I had decided against one with electronic ignition as the manual for it said it needed 120 VAC to work. I think that was a Hotpoint, not certain though.
Oljarhead has had some experience
GE jgbp24gen1ad
I plugged it into the generator and no burn as well.
Here's the passage I remember seeing...
(https://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/djmbucket/oddsnends01/GErange.jpg)
Do you have the manual for that exact model? This was from page 12 for a model JGBP24GEN
If I recall correctly oljarhead's oven did eventually light/ignite when powered by his inverter, but it took 20 seconds or so. I could be wrong on that.
The electric ignition gas ovens I'm familiar with use a hot surface ignitor to light a pilot. The pilot burner heats a thermocouple which turns on the main gas. If the ignitor has failed (or you have no power), you can turn on the main gas knob and heat the thermocouple with a flame until the main burner turns on.
Hope that helps!
... probably takes a short time for the electric ignition system to heat the bar / thermocouple before gas can flow and then the flame light. ???
An electric ignitor works in circuit with an electric gas valve. When the ignitor reaches temperature, its resistance decreases enough for the current to open the valve and start gas flowing. You should see it glowing red hot after a minute or two, then the gas will start.
When i plugged it into the generator and set it to broil the ignitor started to glow and the propane then came out- just like what was stated, but it still wont work for just "bake". I hate to go through all the trouble of setting this up with a battery/inverter to have it not be able to bake a pizza.
I found the manual as well- thanks for taking those key parts out, Don. It looks like at the very least I will need some sort of power.
Comanche,
With the GE you need to have the generator running to Bake correct? Are you and others saying that once the bake burner is lit the unit will continue baking after you shut off the generator?
I ask this because it is my experience that the GE will not bake unless there is continuous ac power of over 3 amps when the gas burner
cycling on.
This is a main reason why offgrid houselolds use the Pierless gas ranges that can be lit with a match and the pilot is only on when baking.
It is also a prime range to own for those who wish to bake during a power outage.
And maybe this is why my GE wouldnt light, even though I had on power. But maybe its just the dual regulator I had to use. The stoves, and the only line adapter I could find for a propane bottle had a 20psi reg also. I removed it last night when I got home and will try again with a coupler minus the reg inline.:)
You cant beat $50 on Craigslist. they asked for $175, but they should have cleaned it first :(
Quote from: Dave Sparks on September 11, 2011, 04:32:04 PM
I ask this because it is my experience that the GE will not bake unless there is continuous ac power of over 3 amps when the gas burner
cycling on.
That's what the Hotpoint manual excerpt indicates. GE is Hotpoint I think
Thanks Don ! Hope you are doing fine! I was confused as I thought the OP was saying that once you had the oven burner lit it would stay lit without electricity.
I found another similar Offgrid stove company this week and ba da boom
http://www.uniqueoffgrid.com/en-ca/Products/Product-Line-up_/Off-Grid-Ranges/Unique-30SS.html
I studied up on this quite a bit also. The glowing igniter not only must glow, it must pull enough current to activate the gas control valve. A defective igniter can glow if partially burned out and still not pull enough current when hot to active the gas valve. As soon as power is lost there is nothing to open the gas valve as an igniter dies not work like a thermocouple which will keep the valve open as long as it is in the flame of the pilot.
Yep Senior Glen! Are we using limes at 5PM!
I added this from another forum as it has the links to both of the Offgrid propane ranges I use and a shameless plug for me..... :)
Originally Posted by morpho
Here is another one....
http://www.uniqueoffgrid.com/en-ca/P...ique-30SS.html
This looks interesting Thanks! I will look at it further! It says there is no standing pilot for the stove top which is the same as the Premier. It does not say how the oven operates and I assume it is a spark lit pilot like the Premier. http://www.premierrange.com/rangeP30.php They sure look the same!
I think I have 30 customers (about) using the Pro models of Premier and they really have not had any problems other than damage in shipping. I have 2 of them myself. Not as nice as a GE profile but you do have to power the GE and in the depth of winter it is nice to bake all day and not worry about the clouds!
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I bought a non-electric gas range from Sears. Pilot lights all the way.
Quote from: Dave Sparks on September 16, 2011, 11:24:24 AM
Yep Senior Glen! Are we using limes at 5PM!
Sounds like a good idea. :)
Are you anywhere near where my limes are located today? :)
Dave .... I am here.... just over the hill... 5pm, eh?
For the most part I am finished with the job from hell...... [ouch]
The darn mfgs and sellers don't say "glow bar in oven, cannot use during power outages" in their online sales blurbs...and half the time the store employees wouldn't know what a glow bar is even if it burned them.
I think I've decided on a Premier Model #SJK240OP .....anyone besides me want to check and see if they can tell whether or not the oven has a glow bar. I would really have to be in the weeds to have no power, being off grid, however, I see no reason to waste the power it takes to run a glow bar.
Quote from: considerations on September 16, 2011, 06:03:54 PM
I think I've decided on a Premier Model #SJK240OP .....anyone besides me want to check and see if they can tell whether or not the oven has a glow bar. I would really have to be in the weeds to have no power, being off grid, however, I see no reason to waste the power it takes to run a glow bar.
Coincidentally, I've actually got that same stove (or at least one that looks identical) strapped to my truck to take up to the property this weekend. I bought it used after that model appeared to work off grid and a cheap one appeard on craigslist. I'll try and get it working next week and report back but it may be a while before my propane is live and I'm not sure I've got the fittings to connect it up to a tank. I should be back online around the 25th after a big push to try and get the cabin (http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=3854.0) ready for the final inspection.
The Lowes specs (http://www.lowes.com/pd_182553-481-SJK240OP_5003703__?productId=1052231&) are consistent with it not having a glow bar.
Thanks for the response.
Joyce,
None of the Premier ranges have glow bars! Guarentee it!