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Title: EPB Bracket in 20 x 30 Plans...
Post by: ajbremer on July 23, 2011, 06:02:11 AM
My countryplans for the 20 x 30 say to use EPB Bracket or Equal. If I follow the plans and use those brackets on all 12 piers, that means that the whole house basically sits on threaded rod, right? If so, will that do, have many people done it? As the house (if the house) settles after time, can those be adjusted to compensate?

I think I read somewhere that those EPB brackets are meant for 4 x 4 post. I plan to use 5 x 5 post, can I still use them?
Title: Re: EPB Bracket in 20 x 30 Plans...
Post by: MountainDon on July 23, 2011, 09:28:36 AM
EPB's are non adjustable according to this info, They are meant to be used to hold the wood elevated off the concrete by 1 to 2 1/2 inches.

http://www.strongtie.com/products/connectors/EPB.asp

Made for 4x4 and 6x6 timber(3 9/16 and 5 1/2 actual)

What is the actual foundation you are planning? Concrete pier with beam on the EPB? Concrete pier with wood post on top with the EPB and then beam on the wood post? (Not the best in being able to resist horizontal forces IMO). 

Title: Re: EPB Bracket in 20 x 30 Plans...
Post by: John Raabe on July 23, 2011, 10:08:59 AM
Here is a larger list of post bases. These will connect a wood post of various sizes to concrete work such as a pier, wall or slab.

http://www.strongtie.com/products/categories/post_bases.html
Title: Re: EPB Bracket in 20 x 30 Plans...
Post by: ajbremer on July 25, 2011, 03:53:34 AM
My first plan is to follow my countryplans 20 x 30 plans for the pier and beam (post). Where it shows the dug hole and then gravel on the bottom with a 2 x 12 plate on top of that and then the 6 x 6 post on top of that. BUT, I have a chance to get some square metal hollow channel that's about 5 x 5, I'm not sure what gauge it is but it's pretty thick. I can use them as piers instead of the 6 x 6 treated post. Then they can never rot, are stronger than wood, and also be totally insect proof. Have you heard anyone doing that?
Title: Re: EPB Bracket in 20 x 30 Plans...
Post by: Don_P on July 25, 2011, 06:08:32 AM
With an adequate angle welded on top and a few gussets it would take care of the lateral problem and the perimeter girders.
Title: Re: EPB Bracket in 20 x 30 Plans...
Post by: ajbremer on July 25, 2011, 07:00:03 AM
Thanks Don_P, very good points.
Title: Re: EPB Bracket in 20 x 30 Plans...
Post by: UK4X4 on July 25, 2011, 08:54:16 AM
"Then they can never rot"

mmmm you don't have rust where you are ?

Title: Re: EPB Bracket in 20 x 30 Plans...
Post by: John Raabe on July 25, 2011, 11:29:59 AM
Interesting solution. Take pics as this progresses.