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Title: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: Windpower on June 06, 2011, 07:03:59 PM

Well it did

I built one of these

(http://www.r-charge.com/assets/images/3polekit_thumbnail.jpg)

from their kit

and it works worked

before I blew the circuit, the energizer battery was putting .142 mA @ 24 VDC into the charger

The battery being charged was getting over 315 mA @ 24 VDC
I say 315 mA because that is the size fuse that blew in the meter

the video that comes with the kits warns you not to disconnect the battery being charged while it is running

Ooops the fuse in the meter for the charging battery was ony .315 mA

it blew -- effectively disconnecting the battery

all of a sudden the rpm's changed and the neon bulbs were making cracking sounds and flashing bright purple (instead of the familliar orange 'night lite' glow

then the heat sink got very warm and that familiar 'burnt electronic smell was apparent

well it was fun while it lasted -- need to get some more components ordered
Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: Windpower on June 07, 2011, 06:28:02 PM

It wasn't as catastrophic as I feared

the 1N4001 diodes were only rated to 75 V reverse bias --the weakest component and the one right across the charger battery


so a quick trip to Radio Shack and replace with the 1N4007 (1000 v rated diode) and

viola it works again

the Neon bulbs may have been fried since they don't come on anymore but that is relatively minor

I will try to get some pics posted 

Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: StinkerBell on June 07, 2011, 09:15:12 PM
Sooooooo, what exactly is it?
Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 07, 2011, 10:50:21 PM
Very cool, Windpower... so you are getting over unity then eh?
Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: Windpower on June 07, 2011, 11:39:01 PM
 Glenn, yes

last time was .142 Amps in and at least  .315 Amps out before the fuse blew

it is very sensitive to changes but so far looks like over unity as advertised



Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: muldoon on June 07, 2011, 11:50:01 PM
err..  windpower, I love your posts, but your talking crazy here. 

What your describing violates the first law of thermodynamics, the law of conservation of energy.  Seems if that was true, this would be the biggest discovery in physics of the century.  On the basis that it is not, I find myself rather skeptical. 

Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: Windpower on June 08, 2011, 12:22:53 AM
I was skeptical as well that is why I built this

but the facts are

1.44 watts in and

3.78 watts out

these values are from calibrated DVM's

Nikola Tesla used 'radiant' energy 70 years ago-- powering a car from 'an antena' that went 60 mph IIRC

over unity is not science fiction and not against science

I can attest that a 12 VDC charger can 'shock the crap' out of an unwary experimenter

try it yourself, if I can build one many can

http://www.r-charge.com/kits.html






Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 08, 2011, 12:51:10 AM
My understanding of the possibility of this working is that some of these units may actually pick up energy radiated through the air from other power sources also, but none the less the over unity results can be proven in some of the cases such as you Windpower. 

Granted - there are also snakeoil salesmen out there on some of these claims.

Is it scalable, Windpower... as in, can it be scaled up to be usable for practical purposes?
Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: Windpower on June 08, 2011, 03:46:22 AM
there are 10 coil units and 30 coil units available at the site
no claims are made but there is definitely more energy available

this tiny demonstration unit gathers impressive amounts of energy-- kind of scary actually - I have been painfully shocked by it running at only 12 VDC
the neon lamps have turned black and fired in the purple/blue UV range -- probably 100's or maybe 1000's of volts-- I have burned out 4 DVM fuses so far

to be clear I use DVM's every week on circuits from low DC to fairly high 10 to 50 Kilovolts

I have not blown fuses in my DVM until this project (32 years on the job)

I admit that I do not completely understand this technology but it is real

Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: peternap on June 08, 2011, 05:50:09 AM
This is a great experiment Windpower!
Keep posting. [cool]
Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 08, 2011, 07:45:59 AM
I have not tried it but I hear Ham operators are familiar with this.

A long wire suspended in the air will gather atmospheric energy and cause high voltage sparks.  I am sure it would have to be strung on insulators.  That wire is hooked to the secondary of a high voltage coil from a car. Low voltage will come out the primary.  Seems it may have to run through a spark plug first to keep the high voltage up and discharging through the secondary.  I think the low voltage then comes through the coil when the spark plug fires.

More details needed I'm sure as I am going from memory.
Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: Windpower on June 08, 2011, 08:00:34 AM
Here is good place to begin reading about the basic design of the kit I put together

Glenn, the antenna effect is a different way of getting energy

this SSG requires 2 batteries and magnets


http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/365-bedini-schoolgirl.html

Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: peternap on June 08, 2011, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on June 08, 2011, 07:45:59 AM
I have not tried it but I hear Ham operators are familiar with this.

A long wire suspended in the air will gather atmospheric energy and cause high voltage sparks.  I am sure it would have to be strung on insulators.  That wire is hooked to the secondary of a high voltage coil from a car. Low voltage will come out the primary.  Seems it may have to run through a spark plug first to keep the high voltage up and discharging through the secondary.  I think the low voltage then comes through the coil when the spark plug fires.

More details needed I'm sure as I am going from memory.

On one corner of the farm there is a high voltage power line. On a humid day I can actually feel the electricity in the air under it. I've been wondering if there's a way to capture the airborne energy???????
Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: Squirl on June 08, 2011, 10:04:58 AM
Yup and go to jail.  Directly to jail.  Do not pass go.  Many have done it.  There are many legal cases on it.  I believe all you have to do is bury a copper coil.  The power company finds out by having to send more power through a line than they are getting paid for.  I would bet it is a low probably of getting caught, but the penalties are severe.
Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: Squirl on June 08, 2011, 10:07:51 AM
http://www.physics.unc.edu/~deardorf/phys25/rwp/exam1rwpsolution.html
Title: Re: The Bedini charger lives
Post by: peternap on June 08, 2011, 10:42:25 AM
Quote from: Squirl on June 08, 2011, 10:04:58 AM
Yup and go to jail.  Directly to jail.  Do not pass go.  Many have done it.  There are many legal cases on it.  I believe all you have to do is bury a copper coil.  The power company finds out by having to send more power through a line than they are getting paid for.  I would bet it is a low probably of getting caught, but the penalties are severe.

I don't think so in Va Squirl. I spent a large chunk of my early career with the SCC regulating the power Companies. Part of my job was investigating Energy Diversion Cases and the law here is that after it leaves their line, it no longer belongs to them.

This has also been the position of the power companies in civil cases involving stray currents. There was a monumental fight between the power companies and dairy farmers in the 80's over airborne current going to ground in the milking sheds via the cows teats.