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Title: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: peternap on January 24, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
I'm working on a new video and needed a blacksmith shot. I wanted sparks and instead of shooting it on the flat side and bringing the contrast and color cast up in post, I upped the saturation in the camera. You can't increase what isn't there in post.

The question is, did I take it too far?

Critique please..... :-\

http://vimeo.com/channels/ddl
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: MountainDon on January 24, 2011, 08:16:45 PM
Appears okay to my eyes, FWIW
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: peternap on January 24, 2011, 11:07:42 PM
Thanks Don!
It's close and I just couldn't make up my mind.

Tomorrow, I get to get used to my ND Fader so I can get some very Shallow shots of an Indian Village.
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: Phssthpok on January 24, 2011, 11:37:58 PM
The only complaint I have is a glaring lack of PPE! d*
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 25, 2011, 12:34:59 AM
..although it should be correct for the time period depicted I think...   Using safety glasses a couple weeks ago was a real pain with them fogging every thirty seconds but the option was lack of eyesight from flying abrasive disk.  But I  would not worry as much about manually hammering out a bar due to the tools involved.  Still, stuff happens and safety could let you see another day. 

I wonder if there is such a thing as old timey blacksmith safety spectacles?

Peter, I like the good solid colors and it seems to me that that is the way movie makers do it.
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: peternap on January 25, 2011, 12:55:10 AM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on January 25, 2011, 12:34:59 AM
..although it should be correct for the time period depicted I think...   Using safety glasses a couple weeks ago was a real pain with them fogging every thirty seconds but the option was lack of eyesight from flying abrasive disk.  But I  would not worry as much about manually hammering out a bar due to the tools involved.  Still, stuff happens and safety could let you see another day. 

I wonder if there is such a thing as old timey blacksmith safety spectacles?

Peter, I like the good solid colors and it seems to me that that is the way movie makers do it.
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Thanks Glenn but most movies are shot flat. 0 contrast, very light saturation, etc. That way they can change the looks after the fact. It's called color grading. What you see in a movie isn't necessarily what was there, actually, it rarely is anymore. Magic Bullet is what I use to color grade in addition to Adobe After Effects but for something like this, I wanted real sparks.
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: Sassy on January 25, 2011, 12:24:00 PM
Duh, I was wondering why he was looking away  d*

BTW, good picture, Peter!
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: Phssthpok on January 25, 2011, 04:45:30 PM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on January 25, 2011, 12:34:59 AM

I wonder if there is such a thing as old timey blacksmith safety spectacles?

I don't know how old they were but I remember finding some 'safety glasses' in my grandpa's old toolbox that were a stiff wire screen (on the order of screen door size mesh) set in frames. Took some getting used to as the screen 'darkened' your field of view, but once you trained yourself to NOT focus on the screen they were serviceable. ;)
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: ChuckinVa on January 29, 2011, 09:50:50 PM
I would love to have one of those 400 LB anvils at CW. Man those things ring pretty! When we visit, the family usually leaves me at the blacksmith shop and visits other places and then comes back and get me later !
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: peternap on January 30, 2011, 09:55:58 AM
Quote from: ChuckinVa on January 29, 2011, 09:50:50 PM
I would love to have one of those 400 LB anvils at CW. Man those things ring pretty! When we visit, the family usually leaves me at the blacksmith shop and visits other places and then comes back and get me later !

Yep, the Blacksmith or the Gunsmith.
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: peternap on January 30, 2011, 10:21:05 PM
Glenn, just for the fun of it, I made up a video today to show the different color profiles. These are out of a GoPro and a Canon 7D.
The GoPro is the car mounted camera. It's profile is not very adjustable but not bad..slightly flat and the color saturation is medium.

The fence is a 7D with an ultra flat setting (Neutral with the Saturation, contrast and sharpness cranked down)

The Carriage is the 7D with a neutral setting and higher saturation, contrast and sharpness.

The reason for shooting in the flatter settings is so you can bring them all up in post evenly, to give a seamless flow.

http://vimeo.com/19373089
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 31, 2011, 01:01:27 PM
Thanks Peter.  That helps with understanding it.  I'm more of a point and shoot guy on that stuff.  I'll probably never get better than fair.... short attention span...or too scattered... [waiting]
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: Pine Cone on February 02, 2011, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: Phssthpok on January 25, 2011, 04:45:30 PM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on January 25, 2011, 12:34:59 AM

I wonder if there is such a thing as old timey blacksmith safety spectacles?

I don't know how old they were but I remember finding some 'safety glasses' in my grandpa's old toolbox that were a stiff wire screen (on the order of screen door size mesh) set in frames. Took some getting used to as the screen 'darkened' your field of view, but once you trained yourself to NOT focus on the screen they were serviceable. ;)

Not old fashioned, but I use these with my chainsaw http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=35750 (http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=35750)

Another option http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=62310 (http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=62310)

Thirty years ago you could still get them with a more retro look...  Can't find em now...  Black frames and plastic side shields, very 1950's, not so 1850's
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: MountainDon on February 02, 2011, 01:55:25 AM
Hey Pinecone, are those large enough to be worn over eyeglasses? 
Title: Re: Did I oversaturate this
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 02, 2011, 11:23:09 AM
Cool glasses but I imagine they are only for larger debris..

I wish they would work for hot saw through a wall as plastic steamed up in 30 seconds all day long - for 2 days.  Oh well - that one is behind me.