This is sort of creeping me out:
http://now.msn.com/christopher-dorner-is-first-drone-target-on-us-soil (http://now.msn.com/christopher-dorner-is-first-drone-target-on-us-soil)
Makes me feel good.
Guy killed four in cold , cold blood. People that never harmed him.
His manifesto says dozens to meet the same fate.
He is a skilled survivalist and trained in military/police skills.
Drones may help locate him with thermal imaging and help prevent loss of more life to serchers in an ambush which he is fully capable of.
What creeps you out about any of that...except of course this guy is a stone gold killer?
MODERATOR..is this the right place for this stuff?
My own opinion is that unarmed surveillance drones that can be used to help locate and capture known criminals who are capable of committing more violence are going to become an inevitable part of police work. In fact drones will likely only be a short term patch as the resolution and bandwidth of space cameras is increasing along the curve of Moore's law. You can now see movies of individuals walking across the street and the birds flying over them.
When and under what conditions armed drones can be used in country as they are in war zones to destroy people, cars and buildings is a whole other set of serious questions. I feel we must fully protect the civil rights of individuals to a trail, a lawyer and all the other protections of long established legal precedents.
To my knowledge Charlottesville is the first "drone free zone" in the US, more to come I'm sure.
Let's be sure we all understand the post was made about an unarmed,drone. Look at what happened today with this creep and see if you think it is a bad idea to use drones to find them.
If we can save lives on this why not.
If we can save an estimated billion dollars on border surveillance with drones and send people to place where the crossers are Identified..
Drug runners....
I am not sure this is more big brother than speed radar or drunk driving traps...just higher tech.
Listen To President Obama, this will clear it all up.
[embed=425,349]http://youtu.be/khAgzS1VHpA[/embed]
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
Quote from: gringo on February 12, 2013, 08:30:15 PM
Let's be sure we all understand the post was made about an unarmed,drone. Look at what happened today with this creep and see if you think it is a bad idea to use drones to find them.
If we can save lives on this why not.
If we can save an estimated billion dollars on border surveillance with drones and send people to place where the crossers are Identified..
Drug runners....
I am not sure this is more big brother than speed radar or drunk driving traps...just higher tech.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/7/coming-to-a-sky-near-you/
"According to some estimates, the commercial drone market in the United States could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars once the FAA clears their use.
The agency projects that 30,000 drones could be in the nation's skies by 2020."
"The legislation would order the FAA, before the end of the year, to expedite the process through which it authorizes the use of drones by federal, state and local police and other agencies. The FAA currently issues certificates, which can cover multiple flights by more than one aircraft in a particular area, on a case-by-case basis."
"The Department of Homeland Security is the only federal agency to discuss openly its use of drones in domestic airspace."
30,000 DHS drones by 2020 -- I feel so safe *sarcasm*
MAV's
Micro Air Vehicles
Unobtrusive, Pervasive, Lethal
[embed=425,349]http://youtu.be/hz2Nz2-J6fY[/embed]
They will not be satisfied with simple surveillance....
The invested politicians who profit from weapons of death sales are already drooling at the thought of more taxpayer dollars being transferred to their accounts...
....yes... the same ones who want to take your guns away....
http://dailyreckoning.com/to-drone-or-not-to-drone/
Remember last census, census takers were told to get GPS coordinates of your front door entrance?
You're worried about the government drones? They are somewhat regulated. A commercial drone, a drone for hire, is also regulated. For instance a private investigator wanting to know if you are fooling around, is supposed to register. A private drone not for hire is unregulated. That should make us comfortable. Since they operate below 400' they are looking in the window not down at the roof, it is comforting to know that the drone is either a registered commercial/ governmental drone, or someone just casing the joint. With current, not forcast, imaging technology they can already see that gun under your jacket or whether that's victorias secret you have on. Tall brass ought to be good out to 400'. However who says they are down in indian country just because that is where they are supposed to operate, the imaging software is quite capable from 5,000' or more, the drone is invisible and inaudible at height.
The technology can be very beneficial, forest fires, nuclear disaster, a lost child. Technology is amoral, people however are moral or immoral.
"The documents clearly evidence that the Department of Homeland Security is developing drones with signals interception technology and the capability to identify people on the ground," says Ginger McCall, director of the Open Government Project at the Electronic Privacy Information Center. "This allows for invasive surveillance, including potential communications surveillance, that could run afoul of federal privacy laws."
A Homeland Security official, who did not want to be identified by name, said the drones are able to identify whether movement on the ground comes from a human or an animal, but that they do not perform facial recognition. The official also said that because the unarmed drones have a long anticipated life span, the department tries to plan ahead for future uses to support its border security mission, and that aerial surveillance would comply with the Electronic Communications Privacy Act and other applicable federal laws.
The documents show that CBP specified that the "tracking accuracy should be sufficient to allow target designation," and the agency notes on its Web site that its Predator B series is capable of "targeting and weapons delivery" (the military version carries multiple 100-pound Hellfire missiles). CBP says, however, that its Predator aircraft are unarmed.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57572207-38/dhs-built-domestic-surveillance-tech-into-predator-drones/
full specs here
http://politechbot.com/docs/dhs.uav.drone.specification.030113.html