Bigger windows or what PEG688 been up to lately.

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MountainDon

Beginning to look finished without the staging. Nice!!!   :)
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

n74tg

PEG:
I saw your plywood connectors for the top of the pump jack columns to the roof.  Did you have to punch new holes in the metal roof to connect the plywood, or did you remove existing screws and go through the same screw holes?

I will have to set up pump jacks to side my gable and want to do something similar to your work with my metal roof.

Now that you're finished, have you got any other words of wisdom in using this method of pump jack stabilization at the roof line?

thanks
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PEG688

Quote from: n74tg on June 20, 2009, 05:25:17 PM
PEG:
I saw your plywood connectors for the top of the pump jack columns to the roof. 

   Did you have to punch new holes in the metal roof to connect the plywood, or did you remove existing screws and go through the same screw holes?

   Removed existing screws,  the holes I made where slotted to "pick-up" any slop in where the roofer placed his screws.

When we removed the brackets we drove a wedged piece back into the hole as the screws we used on the brackets where pretty large , the added wood allowed the gasket-ed roof screw to get a good bite. 


 

I will have to set up pump jacks to side my gable and want to do something similar to your work with my metal roof.

  Your issue will be you'll be running with the ribs of the roofing , what we've done in places like that was to use a 2x8 screwed thru the same  type of hole where the roofing was screwed down , we wrapped the 2x8 with carpet pad and used long stout screws thru that hole. The weight of the 2x8 and carpet pad works well to hold the pole . We used the normal  metal bracket that comes with the pump jacks. 

Now that you're finished, have you got any other words of wisdom in using this method of pump jack stabilization at the roof line?




All in all our set-up was solid and user friendly , one of the carpenters who worked with me setting it up and also working on the turret with me said  " That worked out WAY better than I thought it would when you where telling us about your plan" 

  I said "Well sonny you gotta have faith"!  , or some such wonderful quirky comment!  :)
c*

 
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glenn kangiser

He hasn't learned not to doubt you yet, eh? PEG. :)
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Quote from: glenn kangiser on June 20, 2009, 10:30:14 PM


He hasn't learned not to doubt you yet, eh? PEG. :)



Not quite ;) But he's slowly coming around .
When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .


glenn kangiser

I'm sure you will give him caring, gentle guidance.... :)
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Quote from: glenn kangiser on June 20, 2009, 11:46:03 PM


I'm sure you will give him caring, gentle guidance.... :)



Yes, of course,  thats what I'm known for ;) rofl [rofl2]
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PEG688


More progress photos and a few of details at window heads , sky lights / beaded ceilings and column tops.


 



 


 


  General view of north side,







South side,




A view to the north ,

 


Details repeat themselves over and over , spacing or reveals need to make sense / be in proportion. Interesting job , to say the least  :)    c* 


 
When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .


glenn kangiser

Beauty, PEG.  :)  Looks like that might take several years of my wages... if I didn't eat... d*
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ScottA

While I don't really approve of large homes I do approve of quality. Built to last is better than the quick built crap that will need to be built again in 30-40 years. Nicely done.

PEG688

 Photo from the water,

 

 I was sent this photo by the owners of a wooden boat I posted a photo of on Wooden boat forum , they where nice enought to take this while passing by. I sent them some more photos of thier boat underway as they pass by. They run a charter outfit in my area. So a win win , what goes around can some times come around it would seem.
Sometimes in a good way  :)

It's a month or so old , but shows about where we are in the build.
 
When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .

PEG688



    I was down at this job site today to pick up some gear , took a few photo's , the boys are making some progress,

View from the entry way looking toward the dinning room and kitchen, hardwood guys are gluing and nailing the flooring down, the MDF is being , or been pretty much prepped for priming in some of the areas that are shown in the photos.



 







Dinning room ceiling is done except for sprinkler heads,


 
 

When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .

glenn kangiser

One thing about living in the PNW, you can't buy nice weather, but you can make a nice home for entertainment....

Nice work, PEG and crew... :)
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PEG688


Thanks , BTW our weathers been about the best in the nation for months. Clear and sunny for about a week, hardly any snow this winter, things are blooming  Cherry trees , Rodies , Tulips , Crocus etc. Cut the grass last weekend and the garden may be going in next weekend , never planted in Feb , YET!

Been quite nice here lately.

Of course weather is subject to change.


 
When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .

glenn kangiser

It's not normal for you to get nice weather, PEG. [ouch]
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poppy

Interesting details there Peg.  [cool]

Is that flooring on the dining room ceiling?

I don't see MDF being mentioned a whole lot on this site.  How is it better than plywood for those applications in the pics?

And have you used MDF for other applications?  Would you do it again?

PEG688

Quote from: poppy on February 20, 2010, 12:16:54 PM


Interesting details there Peg.  [cool]


Thanks

Is that flooring on the dining room ceiling?


It's vertcal grain Hemlock T& G 1 x6. With a V -matched edge on one face we're using that face on the stained ceilings , and a small raduis on the other face which is the face we're using showing on the painted ceilings . So the same type of boards , but flipped over depending on the finish, painted or stained ,  the design team selected. 

I don't see MDF being mentioned a whole lot on this site.  How is it better than plywood for those applications in the pics?

  MDF is a great substrate for paint grade trim, the exceptions to that are "wear area" like window sills, plinth blocks at door ways , etc, there we use either VG Hemlock or D. Fir.  Also on the small trim details you see MDF isn't as good as wood at holding small details so we use wood , Hemlock mainly, pre made trim sold in bulk is cheaper than making our own.

    So MDF has it uses, plywood would not paint well and is more costly , the painter prep time is longer IF plywood has to be used , I think in the curved stairwell area we used bender ply, all the lam's run the same way and the ply can be bent into a tube quite easily if required.   


 

And have you used MDF for other applications? 

Yes, many times. Flat painted panels on doors and finsished end panels comed to mind , with a Poplar frame around it. poplar is a great paint grade wood to use with MBF, MDF is very stable , doesn't "move" like lumber panels so in many cases it is the material to use for a flat , or raisded panel , if you have the tooloing to raise panels.


Would you do it again?

  Yes , see above.
When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .

PEG688



  For paint grade use MDF is sometimes the best choice. It is dusty as hell to machine, so care, dust protection , vac systems , etc  and lots of clean up, are required.

   
When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .

glenn kangiser

I remember my son using MDF for things - boxes for the wall mounted TV's at the  Lucky Chances Casino in Colma, CA, now that I think about it. but he was more of an artist like you, PEG, rather than a wood butcher like me.

They took a nice totally smooth professional looking finish.
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Sassy

Wow, very, very nice!  You can see that tons of skill, time & work went into that home...  did you say how much it is costing to build?   :o
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PEG688

  No,  Sassy we don't talk about that :-X  Just maybe close to 4 or 5 mil , but thats subject to change as we change things a lot!


 You have to some how get over what it's costing and just do what they ask you to do. It's trickle down economics at it's best.  


 And to re touch on MDF it would be a poor choice in a summer or winter type use cabin. It needs to be kept warm , or at least not let to get damp , or left unheated for long periods.

But the same is true of the hardwood floors in this house IF the house goes unheated for months , the floors would  well and buckle , it's has radiant floor water or hydronic heat ( I hate that term as it's a buzz word today) my Dad installed water heat years ago , most homes in NE have water heat , but using "Hydronic" makes it cool I guess).

And yes Hydronic spelled wrong ,,  I think ???

   

When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .

glenn kangiser

I think you are wrong, PEG - it is spelled right.  [ouch]    :)
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PEG688

Quote from: glenn kangiser on February 20, 2010, 01:28:16 PM


I think you are wrong, PEG - it is spelled right.  [ouch]    :)



My luck to be wrong when I'm right  ???   d*  Oh well  c*
When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .

PEG688


 I did have a photo of the rounded stair well and the bender ply,

 

 the joints will be covered by battens that will make to paneled look, just like in the stairwell above , the window trim will become "part of" the bigger paneled walls , it extends into the library / sitting room at the top of the stair , one seamless "look" is the theme / idea.

You maybe  can't see it but the texture of the ply is way more "open" so the painters will have to fill and sand , fill and sand to get that surface smooth like the MDF's,  so way more labor for the same look. And under paint the less "fillers" the less likely said fillers fail / come loose/ swell , etc.
When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .