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Title: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: Pox Eclipse on January 17, 2008, 10:57:57 PM
How tall of a building could be built with conventional stick framing? Here are some pictures of a five story apartment building that is all stick framed:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14559928@N00/2199629325/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14559928@N00/2199629321/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14559928@N00/2199629327/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14559928@N00/2199629323/

What is the tallest stick frame building ever constructed?






 
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: MountainDon on January 17, 2008, 11:20:27 PM
That's a lot of sticks!!

I know this isn't what you had in mind. But I couldn't resist.  ;D
13 story, 144 feet

(https://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/djmillerbucket/oddsnends2/tallrussianwoodhouse07.jpg)

LINK (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/07/whouse07.xml) to news story.

Also refer to HERE (http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=1248.msg10495#msg10495) for strange buildings, some maybe even wood. Just for fun. Please forgive the hijack.  :D
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: Pox Eclipse on January 18, 2008, 02:10:41 PM
I love it! 

John, when can we see plans for something like this?  ;)
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: Willy on January 18, 2008, 02:37:34 PM
Quote from: Pox_Eclipse on January 18, 2008, 02:10:41 PM
I love it! 

John, when can we see plans for something like this?  ;)
I do also and sure would love to see the bottm floors load figures for the studs supporting the rest! I bet the lower floor is ready to explode due to the weight. Hate to see it take the winds we have around here. Mark H.
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: JRR on January 18, 2008, 04:38:00 PM
The world's tallest wooden supported building is in Magdeburg, Germany.  Or so they claim. 

How tall you ask?  .... very tall!  60 metres.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahrtausendturm#The_Tower_construction
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: MountainDon on January 20, 2008, 08:27:28 PM
Here it is...

(https://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/djmillerbucket/oddsnends2/jahrtausendturm.jpg)

It's interesting that this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahrtausendturm#The_Tower_construction) states it's the second tallest wooden structure, after the radio tower in Gleiwitz, Poland, which stands at 118 meters.

(https://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/djmillerbucket/oddsnends2/449px-Sender_gliwice.jpg)

Okay, its not a building, but it's wood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliwice_Radio_Tower
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: JRR on January 22, 2008, 01:14:35 PM
If I understood my hosts correctly, the tower in Magdeburg is to be disassembled in 2050.  It's sort of a tent, so there's no question of heating it ... they shut it down in winter.  That's a good picture, but you can't feel the enormity of the thing.  Several floors (I think six, maybe more), two elevators, all for the reviewing of the history of science ... beginning in old Egypt.  Lots of interactive demonstrations of different phenomena.  I could have spent two days there ... but hurried thru in four hours or so.

Worth the trip, but brush up on your German ... there are no printed translations at the demonstrations.
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: judyofthewoods on February 07, 2008, 09:33:03 AM
Some more shock and awe

Church on the Russian island of Kizhi:

http://kizhi.karelia.ru/fotogalery/flash/galery_e.htm (http://kizhi.karelia.ru/fotogalery/flash/galery_e.htm)

and an image search result for the Kizhi church:

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=+Church+of+the+Transfiguration+Island+of+Kizhi+&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.google:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

(http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=+Church+of+the+Transfiguration+Island+of+Kizhi+&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.google:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi)

or Norwegian stave churches:

http://images.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.google%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=stave+church+norway&btnG=Search+Images (http://images.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.google%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=stave+church+norway&btnG=Search+Images)
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 07, 2008, 10:38:38 AM
Thanks, judyofthewoods and welcome to the forum.  Lots of interesting stuff at the links you posted.
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: Sassy on February 07, 2008, 11:51:27 AM
Yes, I enjoyed browsing through the pix, thanks!  And  w*
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: MountainDon on February 07, 2008, 04:30:08 PM
The old Russian architecture was very interesting; that from the time of the czars. More modern, USSR collective era architecture is somewhat less than inspiring.  :D  Gray Concrete Moderne.   ;D

Nice Norwegian stuff too.

I have some old peasant, pre revolution, farmhouses from Romania around here someplace?  ???
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 07, 2008, 04:31:48 PM
The scenery I remember as we flew into Chicago...with a few bricks thrown in.
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: judyofthewoods on February 07, 2008, 06:17:20 PM
Thanks for the welcome. I have just started dipping into this forum, but have to REALLY, REALLY restrain myself. This could get very addictive!

Glad you found the links of interest. I first saw the Kizhi church in that old classic "Shelter", and then found a book on Russian log building which is just amazing, but I agree - only the old stuff.
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: PaleRider on February 07, 2008, 06:43:28 PM
Has anyone built a 2 1/2 story with the Universal or Victoria plans?
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 07, 2008, 10:27:16 PM
Haven't heard of that one yet.  It would be getting pretty tall, but seems it could be done.
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 07, 2008, 10:33:57 PM
Glad you enjoy the forum, judyofthewoods and hope you show less restraint in the future. :)

I saw some old Norse buildings with foundations of wood somewhere in similar style to the buildings in your links.  Wish I could remember where.  Seems the posts were tapered on top to provide a runoff for the water.
Title: Re: Maximum number of stories with stick framing?
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 08, 2008, 02:11:49 AM
Is this the biggest -- I didn't review above yet.

(http://www.tillamookair.com/assets/images/hg5.jpg)


Length: 1,072 feet
Height: 192 feet
(over 15 stories)
Width: 296 feet
Area: Over 7 acres
(enough to play six football games)
Doors: 120 ft. high,
6 sections each weighing 30 tons.
220 ft. wide opening. The sections roll on railroad tracks
Catwalks: 2 catwalks, each 137 ft. above the hangar deck


(http://www.tillamookair.com/assets/images/BlimpsHangar2.jpg)

   

In 1942, the U.S. Navy began construction of 17 wooden hangars to house the K-class blimps being used for anti-submarine coast patrol and convoy escort. Two of these hangars were built at the Naval Air Station Tilllamook, commissioned in December 1942 to serve the Oregon-Washington coastal area.

Construction of the two hangars was rushed to completion. Hangar "B" was the first one built and was completed in the spring of 1943. Hangar "A" which was destroyed in a 1992 fire, was completed in only 30 days. Amazingly, there were no serious injuries or deaths on the whole project.

Stationed at NAS Tillamook was Squadron ZP-33 with a complement of eight K-ships. The K-ships were 252 feet long and filled with 425,000 cu. ft. of helium. With a range of 2,000 miles and an ability to stay aloft for three days, they were well suited for coast patrol and convoy escort. Naval Air Station Tillamook was decommissioned in 1948.

Since 1994 the remaining hangar has been home to one of the top five privately owned aircraft collections in the nation.

   
   
e-mail: info@tillamookair.com
   
   
Tillamook Air Museum
6030 Hangar Road, Tillamook, Oregon 97141
503.842.1130

Maybe more of a timber framing project.