Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma

Started by ScottA, October 11, 2007, 03:41:32 PM

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Alasdair

Nice looking job! You must be pleased! :)

ScottA

It's turning out ok. I'm glad you like it.


considerations

It's better than ok.  It has style.

Lorangerlife

 :)

I am really digging that ceder siding.  How come you can't put it right over the sheathing and #30 to avoid the bugs having a small space behind there to nest?

glenn kangiser

The space prevents capillary action from causing possible leaks and gives one more way to have a longer life on the building. 

It is a Rain Screen Wall.
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ScottA


glenn kangiser

#331
Actually not only capillary action but also any place there is a hole, tear, imperfect papering technique etc., the water will drain out before leaking into the insie of the paper into the wall cavity.  In cases where the water gets to the vack side of the board it will run down the back of it and drain down the back and run harmlesly downhill to the outside.

A perfect system for a plumber's house.  Lots of draining going on there. :)

A perfect system for any house for those who care to do it.  It is the safest system with housewraps since it is easier for a housewrap such as Tyvek or others to have problems or loe the chemicals that make them work.  Any surfactant such as soap in a pressure washer, or even dirt has been shown to sometimes destroy their water proofing ability.

From University of Iowa - Mississippi Mold inspection

QuoteAs contrasted with adjoining paper enclosures, Tyvek envelopes Nurtured mold
bloom of their contents. Glazed exhibit cases nurtured extensive mold as
contrasted with the condition of adjoining materials that were not cased.
Glazed wall mounted materials were also at high risk. In general, item
labeling on boxes or in tabular exposure, was more at risk for mold bloom
and damage than the enclosed items. We advised that soaked items should not
be spread out directly on polyethylene covered assembly platforms. A wicking
under-layment [such as tarpaper-felt GK] is needed to prevent an interface for mold bloom.

Most reports on Tyvek will not agree with me.  It will normally allow vapor through but if water gets through it or condensation occurs on the inside of it for some reason, then thr trouble starts.  The common response that will get them off in most cases is that you did it wrong, or a million other excuses.

I was told by family that an entire fairly new apartment complex in Oregon had to be torn down due to housewrap such as Tyvek causing mold.  Felt will wick the water out.  Tyvek will trap it.  There are tons of houses out there with no problem....but there are some that do have problems.

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ScottA

Good info Glenn.

I've been sanding and staining the deck the past 2 days. Did you know that if you stain enough wood even outside the fumes get strong enough to make you dizzy? Had to call it a day.  :P

glenn kangiser

Just more suppressed information, Scott.  That type of info is rare on the net as big companies like to make it go away.  I previously found other refs that didn't show up this time.

In Fresno the kids will pay to help with solvent based products.... ::)
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ScottA

As a plumber I've seen lots of water damage and mold problems in houses. I planned this house to eliminate as many of those issues as possible. Rain screen wall, wide eaves and overhangs, house raised off the ground etc. All of my doors and windows have a roof directly over them to prevent water from seeping in. Water is the biggest enemy a house has. Maybe I'm just paranoid but all these things make me feel better.

Homegrown Tomatoes

Scott, I don't think you're paranoid.   I think you're wise.  We've had issues, especially in our first house, and of course they were all caused by water, not having the house high enough off the ground, etc.  I'd want to do the same thing if I were building right now (I wish we were!!! Still trying to get that doggone house sold!!!)

glenn kangiser

I think it's a good plan, Scott.
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soomb

I learn more and more from you guys.  (filling up my sketch/note pad)
Live- Phoenix, Relax- Payson

glenn kangiser

Try Evernote - use the desktop version w/the webclipper for Firefox - it syncs to the web one too - free version is great - thanks to Daddymem for the recommendation.

http://www.evernote.com/
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soomb

Glenn, Evernote.com  I am addicted!
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Whitlock

WOW! I like that cabin :) and all the creativity you have put in it [cool]
Make Peace With Your Past So It Won't Screw Up The Present

ScottA

You only get one ride. Why go second class?  ;)

glenn kangiser

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SkagitDrifter

Hey Scott-
I have watched your progress over the last few months-
your project is beautiful- great job so far.
I looked back through the thread and did not see you mention the product you are using to stain your cedar siding.  From the pictures it looks great.  I too am using western red cedar siding on my project and am looking for a similar color/look.  Can you tell me the brand and color?
Thanks- and keep up the good work.
Tom
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
Abraham Lincoln


ScottA

It's McClosky semi transparent deck and siding stain. The color is natural cedar. http://www.valsparglobal.com/val/resident/mccloskey_ext.jsp# Also a little goes a long ways.

Thanks, I'm happy you like it. I should have some new pics comming soon. The deck has been stained. The round window is in and I'm shingling on the west gable end ATM.

ScottA

Oh also so you know the wood is sanded to 80 grit with a random orbital sander and wiped after the stain soaks in for few minutes.

Redoverfarm

It did turn out well Scott.  What about sealer?

ScottA

Turned out nice. The whole works will get a second coat sometime next year so no sealer yet. Needs to weather a bit first. I'll take some pics tomorrow.

ScottA

#349
Sorry taking so long with new pics. Been real busy.

I finnished up the siding on the south side and got the deck stained.



The round window is in. This was the last one so all windows and doors are in now.



An outside overview shot.



I'm working on the west gable end. The cedar shakes are on and I've started on the sofit. The sofit is 1/2" exterior A/C plywood that's been water proofed. It would have been better to put the sofit up first but I had a duh moment.  d*



Here's the next piece drying in the workshop.



In case you didn't notice I have ADD so I jump around alot.