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Title: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on May 20, 2015, 03:31:13 PM
Greetings y'all.
This is a great site....with great resources and fabulous projects that I just fell upon.
I hope you enjoy my tale and project.
Cheers!!!

The Back Story:
My good friends bought a 3 year old 3 bedroom, 2 bath  A-frame 3 season cabin at Incline Village, NV , on .5 acres in 1977, that had an unobstructed view of the lake.
Escrow and title insurance were held by Title Insurance and Trust Company.
Part of the sale provision was to continue paying on the existing mortgage as if they were the original owners.
This mortgage had a term that would end in 2004.
For many summers we enjoyed the cabin.
In 1989, there was a small fire which caused more smoke damage than fire damage.
The cabin was brought to a state of repair and unoccupiable (comfortably).
The owners started to do the repair, but stopped due to family issues.
I offered to help with the repair but they declined.
I offered to lease the property and fix it or buy it.
Again, I was declined.
The mortgage was paid off and the property was reconveyed.....back to the original owner.
My friends finally decided to sell the property....but for one problem....they were not the "deeded" owners of record.
The title company had been acquired twice and there were no documents available.
The original owner had died.
My friends were stuck in a legal mess, which they chose to ignore.
Until I offered to buy it "as-is" in the fall of 2012.
I had no idea what "as-is" was, other than the legal issues, as I hadn't seen it in many years.
My friend, my daughter and I took a day trip up to check it out.
Below is how it looked, untouched since 1990, when visited in Sept 2012...
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/DSC_0305_zps0mw3nrfh.jpg)

(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/DSC_0308_zps7ntdvcps.jpg)

(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/DSC_0320_zpsnmkpcsfs.jpg)

Indoor/outdoor carpet and mustard appliances and counter tops.
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/DSC_0355_zpsrr5manhb.jpg)

Notice the nice simulated walnut paneling and blue/orange shag carpet
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/DSC_0331_zpsggxexluj.jpg)

Imitation brick and cobwebs.....lots and lots of cobwebs.
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/DSC_0333_zpsezhcpbit.jpg)

(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/DSC_0334_zpsqfck76gx.jpg)

Loft
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/DSC_0338_zpse7zav4ep.jpg)

Notice Lazy Boy chair located in Bedroom #1
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/DSC_0329_zpsb5s2r6a8.jpg)

Notice position of green chair, relatively empty closet and....hiding in the left floor of the closet....a crawl space access that went unnoticed today.
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/DSC_0347_zpsrejzubpe.jpg)

Bathroom #1
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/DSC_0328_zps33uwouhl.jpg)

Bathroom #2...complete with petrified #2 and toiletpaper, left behind by 1990 workman!!
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/DSC_0342_zpsyejbbvcx.jpg)

Somewhere out in the distance, on this cloudy fall day, is Lake Tahoe.
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/DSC_0316_zpsbel9nngw.jpg)

After viewing, I confirmed my willingness to purchase.
I wouldn't hear back for sometime............



Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on May 20, 2015, 04:45:47 PM
One morning in May 2013, I received a call from the mother of the family that owned the cabin.
She asked if I was still interested in buying and I confirmed.
2 hours later my wife and I, and the mother and son, met at a local copy shop that provided notary services.
We consummated the deal, and I sent the papers off for recording.
2 weeks later, a letter arrived from Washoe County stating that the property had been redflagged due to "sale by undeeded owner".
August 2013 I began Quiet Title action in the county court.
Interesting enough, 2 dead parties needed to be serviced at grave site.
This process would take about 18 months.
I would not visit the property until January 2014.
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: MountainDon on May 20, 2015, 05:38:07 PM
Quote2 dead parties needed to be serviced at grave site.

Sometimes the law works in mysterious ways...   ;D
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on May 20, 2015, 07:03:28 PM
January 2014, 1 week prior to the Super Bowl, another friend of mine said he was making a trip to Reno to put money on the game.
He asked if I wanted to join him in the trip...afterwards we could stop off at the cabin.
As luck would have it....
Things weren't exactly the same as things have been.
Here is how the cabin looked in January 2014.....

Missing siding and access grate
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/Cabin%20January%202014/IMG_0397_zpsul9ikjfv.jpg)

More damaged siding.....and missing drapes????
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/IMG_0402_zpsk3qm7qkr.jpg)

Something came to visit.....and removed the curtains
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/IMG_0382_zps4dhv7zda.jpg)

And looking for a beer
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/IMG_0396_zps1o0w9old.jpg)

Remember the Lazy Boy in Bedroom #1?
What the heck is it doing in Bedroom #2?
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/IMG_0400_zpswcgvefbx.jpg)

It's in the once empty closet...
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/IMG_0356_zpshhpvzamp.jpg)

And halfway under the house!
Something wanted my Lazy Boy!
And that Something might still be down there!
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/IMG_0357_zpsiodvos6e.jpg)

What's done is done.
I'm outta here, back in spring time.....
(//)
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on May 20, 2015, 07:40:43 PM
I returned May 2014, one year after purchase.
Made sure no large critter or critters were home.
Pulled the Lazy Boy from the hole.
Put on a head lamp and went caving.....

Something has been using the copper pipes for a jungle gym
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/DSC_0653_zpsbpgbkq2z.jpg)
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/DSC_0654_zpsfxjuqteu.jpg)

Used the romex as a rope swing
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/DSC_0657_zps7qsmccli.jpg)

And used the drapes, pillows and curtains FOR A BED!!
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/DSC_0664_zpsfmuhlxdl.jpg)

What?
Some misguided human connected the upstairs waste to the main line.....backwards
On the other hand....
Some misguided inspector signed off on it back in "73.
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/IMG_0424_zpsr15dcury.jpg)

I can fix that in due time....

First things first....
We need power and water, so I repaired the romex and replaced the broken pipes with PEX.
While that was taking place, the craiglist hires were emptying out the cabin for the next home....The Dump.

Now we can see, cook, most importantly, keep beer cold and flush the toilet
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on May 20, 2015, 08:34:57 PM
Next trip up in June '14, I came with a new refrigerator.
It's now a bit more comfortable than camping.

(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/Cabin%20Summer%202014/DSC_0020_zpssapcm6mg.jpg)

It cleaned up good.
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/Cabin%20Summer%202014/DSC_0018_zpsxcsswfcq.jpg)

Sleeping quarters....satisfactory
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/Cabin%20Summer%202014/DSC_0010_zpsmgkndows.jpg)

Loft
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/Cabin%20Summer%202014/DSC_0032_zpsvw1tx1sr.jpg)

And most importantly....
A clean and functional Toilet!
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/DSC_0015_zpswi3rumpj.jpg)

Now time to take a break and enjoy the view.......which after 40 years is now "filtered." Cheers!!!
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/DSC_0052_zps7yew1bbc.jpg)
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/DSC_0049_zpsjem0h9gc.jpg)
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Adam Roby on May 20, 2015, 10:22:32 PM
That is a spectacular view...  thanks for sharing.
The structure seems to be very well build from what I can see.  Hopefully all the damage from fire/smoke/critters/time are mostly cosmetic.
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on May 20, 2015, 11:37:51 PM
Thanks.
You and me both  ;)

Since the title was clouded, the county wouldn't issue any permits, nor would Southwest Gas install a line so...
Since the lead supervisor has a disdain for simulated wood paneling....
I began to remove it......which left glue or torn wallboard behind.
The solution....
Cover with 1/4" wallboard.
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/Cabin%20Summer%202014/DSC_0087_zpst9moqn6u.jpg)

I found a gas fireplace 4 passes south and 4 hours away in Sonora, CA.
It is a Fireplace Xtrordinair 36DVL......I bought it for $250.
Brought it back and built a platform such that I can use the existing chimney chase.
This summer I hope to pull the permit, and get it installed after SWG, hopefully. lays the service line.
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/Cabin%20Summer%202014/DSC_0079_zpsz3em62ko.jpg)

This is how the cabin sits prior to my next visits beginning in June.
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/Cabin%20Summer%202014/DSC_0080_zpsp0ei0l2s.jpg)
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/Cabin%20Sept%202012/Cabin%20Summer%202014/DSC_0083_zpsxcgngaqg.jpg)

In March, after 18 months, the judge granted my Quiet Title request and now we have a clear, clean title.
Full steam ahead!!

The goal is to have a comfortable and enjoyable place to hang out in 4 seasons.
I am fully aware that it is a 70's A-Frame cabin, and I intend to merely bring it somewhat up to date.

Ambitious Goals for Summer 2015:
- Have gas service installed
- Install gas line under house servicing fireplace, stove, water heater, extra ports for possible future dryer, furnace, and bbq.
- Remove 3' from the house of deck boards, support joists from underneath with blocking, remove existing ledger boards.
- Remove all exterior battens, repair damaged siding, bury existing siding under 1/2 OSB, install new ledger boards, bump out window frames 2.5 inches, cover with 2"Rmax rigid foam board
- Replace all windows and sliding doors with same size Milgard Tuscanny, flash and tape.
- Place top siding (likely with pre-stained red cedar shingle panels)
- Finish framing and cement board cover fireplace.
- Continue to replace interior wall paneling with 1/4 wallboard, tape and paint as time allows.

Thank you for viewing.
I welcome any and all comments.
Progress will be updated as it moves along.

Cheers!!!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: rick91351 on May 21, 2015, 06:01:46 AM
Tahoe is such a Gem! Love the area and its beauty.  However love the history more.  From the Incline and the whole area clear from the top of Donner clear over to Virginia City. That said WOW what a find...

I am so surprised that the pack rats, mice did not totally destroy the place up over the years. Or the squatters burn the place down. Looks like you have you hands full of remodel and honey do's for a week or two.... 

I am with the lead supervisor the dark has to go. The huge windows in the common area face the north?  I might loose the carpet as well.  ;)     
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: UK4X4 on May 21, 2015, 07:36:33 AM
"I am so surprised that the pack rats, mice did not totally destroy the place up over the years"

I'm taking a guess that the big furry guy living in the basement had a regular snack time....

but I can only imagine it must have been buttoned up real tight through the early years , that nothing got in.

My trailler got infested somehow in just a year, even though I foamed every hole in the full underneath cover, they seemed to have got in Via the generator exhaust hole, and then via the wiring ducts.

Looks to be a fun project with what will be an awsome view, got to admire your perserverance.....I presume the 2 dead owners didnt complain then . 8)
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: nailit69 on May 21, 2015, 07:50:54 AM
Awesome place... congrats.  Doesn't look like a ton of work, you should have it looking good as new in no time.

When I was married I spent some time in and around Tahoe & I LOVE that place.  Seeing that cabin takes me back to a wonderful time in my life... when I was still married, my kids were younger (I was too), and things in life just seemed to come easy.

Fastfwd 20 years and a divorce later... things are still peaches and cream... I have more fun now than i did then but I still miss those times around Tahoe and I don't think a day goes by that I don't look back on them.  There's something special about the Sierras that I never could put my finger on... everytime i'm there it's like the first time all over again. 
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: pmichelsen on May 21, 2015, 11:03:47 AM
A few weeks ago I was backpacking in the Desolation Wilderness (starting at the Glen Alpine Trail Head) and passed numerous places that looked like this, now you've got me wondering how many of them have been left for dead and possibly for sale.

Looks like an excellent project and you're off to a great start.
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on May 21, 2015, 01:13:06 PM
Quote from: rick91351 on May 21, 2015, 06:01:46 AM
The huge windows in the common area face the north?  I might loose the carpet as well.  ;)     

I'm on the northeast side of the lake. Those windows face southwest.
The carpet is going....
Plan to replace with handscraped stranded bamboo.

Cheers!!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on May 21, 2015, 01:15:38 PM
Quote from: pmichelsen on May 21, 2015, 11:03:47 AM
A few weeks ago I was backpacking in the Desolation Wilderness (starting at the Glen Alpine Trail Head) and passed numerous places that looked like this, now you've got me wondering how many of them have been left for dead and possibly for sale.

Looks like an excellent project and you're off to a great start.

Thanks!
BTW....I have a best bud in Covelo....on the river.....behind M&M Feed.

Cheers!!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Tickhill on May 22, 2015, 03:46:36 AM
Excellent, can't wait to see more photos and details of your progress.
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Danfish on May 22, 2015, 11:02:30 AM
Wow that's a gem in the rough, but as stated in an early post...the basic structure (except decking) looks sound!  Should make an excellent retreat for many years to come...and give you plenty to do in your spare time.

This was one of my projects:

(https://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee389/u9138/Franks%201999_zpsvuljsvlo.jpg)

Took interior from this:

(https://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee389/u9138/Franks%20LR%202004_zps9vaolii4.jpg)

To this:

(https://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee389/u9138/Franks%20LR%202009_zpspjlzt0rd.jpg)

So for those who just have to start from scratch...remember there are those gems to be found that can say a ton of work on the front end!!!  Hang in there.

Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on May 22, 2015, 11:22:23 AM
NICE!!

It's hard to tell, but seems your original builder had sense enough to at least "try" and keep snow away from the front door by using a small gable.
During "normal" winters, my door is completely buried, but since the existing sliders can only be opened from the inside, that was another reason winter occupancy was avoided in the early years.
Gonna change that, for sure.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Danfish on May 23, 2015, 09:29:33 AM
Yes...by all means doors in snow country need some protection.  On my project house the original gable became victim to snow shedding.  This is the replacement and it does the trick...

(https://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee389/u9138/Franks%20Porch_zps0zvf3mnu.jpg)

I did not put a gable on the garage man-door of my current project and regret it every time I stand there in dripping water trying to unlock door!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on August 17, 2015, 02:28:44 PM
Had to have an unscheduled/planned hiatus due to elderly family issues.
I'm way behind my own schedule of work I wanted to complete by Oct 1.
This last weekend I placed new 1/2" OSB 2/3 around the cabin.leaving the south facing window filled side and the top half of the north A for later this month.

I currently have a utility closet on the east side where the existing 40gal electric water heater is located.
My first thought was to replace it with a gas on demand and install it on the inside of the exterior wall.
However, the gas service will be along the west wall.
The kitchen, washing machine and one bathroom are all on this west wall.
There is no space in the structure interior to mount an on-demand heater.
The existing water heater is at least 30' away.
My new thought is to mount the new gas on-demand heater to the exterior of the west wall, and enclosing it in it's own 2x4 framed and insulated cabinet......possibly accessed from inside the kitchen, but definitely accessible from outside.
The gas run would be 7'.
The run from heater to farthest fixture would be less than 12'.

How does this sound?
Anybody done this?
How about pics?

Cheers!!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: MountainDon on August 17, 2015, 04:59:10 PM
I am hugely in favor of keeping the hot water pipe runs as short as possible. The length of the gas line doesn't matter so much as we just have to make sure it is large enough for the volume of gas that it needs to pass. But I dislike long hot pipe runs as it means wasting water as we wait for the hot water to arrive.

However there are some solutions to long pipe runs. We have a typical 40 gallon water heater / storage tank. We have long runs to the bedroom baths. All the pipes are insulated with foam sleeves and further wrapped with batt insulation in a chase that is just above the ceiling. We also have a small recirculating pump. These can run a a timer set for the times of day when you commonly use hot water. Or the pump can be actuated on demand by a push button at the point of use. That lets you use a standard tank type unit. Using a tank also lets you get into using solar energy for heating the water. Tankless is not always the best option IMO.

Pardon me for having to ask, but is this, or will this be a part time or full time residence? A tank is easy to drain if the place has to be winterized for prolonged winter absences unless the place will be heated all winter. Some tankless heaters can be difficult to drain completely.

Oljarhead (member here) has done something similar with a on demand water heater on his exterior wall. He boxed it in. Maybe he will see this and comment.
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on August 17, 2015, 05:26:19 PM
Also, I removed the existing 8' wide redwood deck that collapsed due to rotten post base.
It was 2x12 framing, with the ledger board NAILED to the rim joist.
The concrete beam piers look fine, as does the 4x12 24' beam.
The 4X4 posts between the concrete piers and beam rotted collapsing the deck and pulling the ledger from the rim.
The deck is less than 30" off the ground at highest part.
The deck is 24 feet long (width of house) by 8' wide (deep).

Looking at the 2009/13 deck building code, it states that the ledger board should be of equal to but not greater than the house rim joist.
My rim joist is 8" sitting on a 2"sill, with 1.25 subfloor panel on top.

I planned to space the ledger from the rim joist using 2 sandwiched 2x4 blocks every 16" to compensate for the 2' rigid foam, 3/4" furring and 3/4" siding.

Washoe County Snow load requirement at 8000' is 280psf. (actual cabin elevation 7780')

How do I get that using 2x8 framing with 8' joists on a 4x12 beam?
(Joist spacing).

Cheers!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on August 17, 2015, 05:29:09 PM
Thanks for reply MountainDon....

vacation home.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: pmichelsen on August 18, 2015, 05:55:35 PM
I don't have to deal with the temps you do, but I have my water heater (38 gallon) sitting in the crawl space directly under my kitchen and bathroom (they share a wall) and my W/D are a short distance from there. We find the amount of hot water it supplies to be more than enough, just a thought.
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: MountainDon on August 18, 2015, 06:38:36 PM
Quote from: Savvy on August 17, 2015, 05:29:09 PM

vacation home.

I'd be more willing to accept compromise then. Like maybe retain a storage tank type heater in the original space.  Cheaper solution.
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: NathanS on August 19, 2015, 08:32:52 AM
Wow, I can't believe how well that cabin held up after being abandoned for 25 years. Good luck on fixing everything up.. it looks like you've got a good starting point.
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on August 28, 2015, 05:04:03 PM
F$#K!!!
Spoke with a rep from North Lake Tahoe Fire Prevention District.....
Left hand not following right hand.....
Washoe County building department said no permit required if not removing existing siding and adding foam board and additional siding.
NLTFPD says 2012 Fire Code was adopted requiring 1 hour fire wall.....and a permit.
Cedar siding is NOT ACCEPTABLE without 5/8 Firerock underneath....between furring and siding.
Siding needs to be fastened to studs not just furring........5.25" fasteners.
WTH?

Also.....
Exposed eaves are a NO NO.
I need to enclose the eaves with firerock as well.

Sucks!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: MountainDon on August 28, 2015, 07:12:22 PM
I can appreciate the frustration when receiving conflicting information from government departments. However, the correct answer might have come from the county.   ???   New rules, new codes or changes to codes occur all the time. Just because the new code states that the siding must be fire resistant, or be applied over a fire resistant barrier, does not mean that every structure existing before the new code/rule must automatically receive the upgrade. There will usually be some threshold that is crossed before the new code applies. The threshold might be determined by the type of work or the degree of change. In some cases the threshold can be the change of ownership. For example, since 2009 in Oregon a home that has an old non EPA approved wood stove or fireplace can not be sold until the old stove / fireplace has been removed and certified as destroyed. If I was in your situation I would carefully research what laws are applicable. How much renovation can be done without triggering major extra work.

That said I can fully understand the reasons behind the rules that specify fire resistant siding, special soffit material and installations. For several years now the western USA has experienced worsening wildfire hazards. We have has two major fires come within 1.75 and 4 miles of our place in the woods. One smaller fire right up to our property line about 70 feet from the cabin. I don't expect fire conditions to become any less dangerous in my lifetime. The climate is partly to blame. The fact that most of our forests have too many trees, too much ground trash does not help. And more and more people build in the forest.

I would be concerned about the wood siding and the soffits. I would also be concerned about the wall of windows. To me, it doesn't likely make all that much difference in total fire resistance to install something like HardiPlanl lap siding (cement fiber) and have that wall of old windows that will blow out in a firestorm, even if the siding does not catch.

Find out what is triggering the fire resistant siding and if that really applies by law. It could also be an zealous official applying some personal interpretations to the rules. If there is something in your plan that triggered the demand for changes perhaps you can scale back?

Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on August 28, 2015, 07:35:58 PM
Turns out.....
I inquired with State Farm regarding Homeowners insurance. I'm insured with them in CA, but CA state farm wont insure in NV so I was referred to a local SF agent.
Agent did drive by.
That's how NLTFPD got my name.
Agent stated no insurance available as I have dozens of pine trees on property (.47 acre), 4 within 12 feet. Existing wood siding, existing wood deck. The only things going in my favor are a metal roof and a hydrant 20 feet from the house.
Said I required major landscaping to create defensible space.
Truthfully, my space is no less defensible than any of my neighbors.....however, they all got insured in the 90's.
Agent said fire ratings range from 1 to 10.
State Farm will not insure structures rated above 3.
Agent rates my area 9.
Now...I just got to find a case of 5.5" fasteners.... :)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: nailit69 on August 29, 2015, 08:16:52 AM
Be careful not to puncture a water line or pierce an electrical wire with those 5.5" fasteners (says the voice of experience ;)).
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: MountainDon on August 29, 2015, 09:02:08 AM
Headlok, (http://www.fastenmaster.com/resources.html) long screws in assorted lengths that are approved for installing furring strips over foam. Screw into studs and attach siding to furring strips. The link is to their technical data page with the approval docs. The page, HeadLOK Rigid Foam to Wood Framing (TER 1009-01), includes a table that indicates how many screws (by stating the vertical spacing of the screws) are needed for different foam thicknesses and weights of siding materials.

I have bought them in buckets on Amazon when I couldn't get what I wanted locally.
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on August 30, 2015, 12:55:03 AM
Thanks MountainDon!!!

You sent me to a sign of good luck.......

I am aka DrJ :)

Cheers!!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Danfish on September 01, 2015, 03:42:41 PM
Over the years I have learned many times not to trust local fire official's interpretation of codes!

If like California, Nevada has a State Fire Marshal then they should have a handbook for high fire hazard area construction.
In California the building departments incorporate the fire marshal's requirements in their plan check and require local fire official sign off defensible space at Final.  Sounds like a good sit down with county building department is in order before you start siding.

In earlier posts you indicated a plan to install cedar shingle panels on your siding.  Due to the backing material, California accepts these panels as fire resistant construction.  Make sure local officials understand your material choice.  California does require wall board underlayment on  eaves and porch ceilings when using wood.  On vented soffits they also require special ember resistant vents ($$$$).

As for insurance... keep shopping!  It is getting harder to find a carrier that will bind coverage in high fire hazard areas.
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on September 02, 2015, 09:18:56 PM
Fire guy said, though the shingle panel product was accepted in CA, it was NOT accepted in NV........news to Spitsen Lumber in Incline.
Incline has some of the friendliest folks on the planet......
Eager to help.....with as many opinions.
I just got to choose the right official to give me my best option.......in writing.....and run with it.

Cheers!!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on September 23, 2015, 01:48:02 PM
OK.....
I have removed the existing windows.
I have created bump-out window boxes for each window using 3/8 exterior ply.
The boxes are flashed to the OSB using Grace Vycor Ice and Water peel and stick.
I have placed my foam board directly over the OSB sheating.
Each window box is framed with 2x6 furring secured through the foam and into the studs using 6" HeadLok screws.
As per Washoe County, vertical 2x4 furring strips were placed over each stud and secured through the foam into the studs using 6" HeadLok screws.

Now comes a decision.....

As per Washoe County, I need to place 5/8" Type X Gypsum Exterior sheathing on top of the furring strips and immediately under the final cedar siding.
For this, I think I am going to use DensGlass Yellow Fireguard Sheathing

Do I install my windows on top of the furring and flash to the foam, then add the DensGlass.......
or
Do I install the DensGlass, then install the windows on top, flashing to the DensGlass?

Sorry no photo at this time.

Thanks.
Cheers!!

BTW.... After yelling "Go Bears" at the big screen tv at the local sports bar during the Cal v Texas football game last weekend, as I pulled into my driveway, I spotted my first siting of a local bear.........fortunately he must have known I had been yelling "Go Bears", so he did just that....he left.
I slept with one eye open since all my windows were just big holes. :)
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: mahaoi52 on September 24, 2015, 11:05:30 AM
Let me take a stab at answering your question. I delt with this a lot as a commercial carpenter on hi rise condo projects.  The windows should be installed over the densglass just as you would over any other sheathing.  The only difference would be that densglass requires a primer prior to installing flexable flashing.  This is the quote from densglass:
"When installing Perm-A-Barrier Wall Flashing
over DensGlass Sheathing, the surface of the
sheathing must first be primed with Perm-ABarrier
WB Primer. Perm-A-Barrier WB Primer
is a water-based primer, which imparts an
aggressive, high-tack finish on the glass mat
substrate of the sheathing"
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on September 29, 2015, 10:15:29 PM
Almost finished with OSB covering and completed one wall of Rmax plus furring.
Milgard Tuscany windows ordered.
Gas main installed.
Winter is approaching.
I'll get as much done as I can before El Nino grande arrives.

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Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on October 12, 2015, 11:40:18 PM
One side ALMOST completed with fire sheathing.
Damn those panels are heavy.......and itchy.
Friggin' fiberglass dust makes its way through gloves and taped up jumpsuit.
Not something one should do in almost 80 degrees.
Windows should arrive in a few days.
I may take a break and place my gas pipe drops so I can get an inspection sign-off before I need heat.

Cheers!!(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/bears2thdoc/DSC_0382_zpsuboarbqd.jpg)
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on November 03, 2015, 02:47:55 PM
 I'm installing gas line in my Lake Tahoe cabin for the first time. Gas company has installed the service line to the house.
I have installed the main 1-1/4" line, and 3 branch lines (range, fireplace, water heater).
No appliances are connected. branch lines end with caps after valves.
On October 26 at 1pm the line was pressurized to 20 psi with compressed air.
The temperature was 61 degrees.
Sunday, Nov 1 at 12:30pm, I returned to find the pressure had dropped to 17.6 psi.
It was 44 degrees.
A decrease of 2.4psi over 7 days.
A temperature decrease of 17 degrees.
Doesn't sound like much, but this is my first gas line install.  Is this acceptable.
Is it safe?
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on November 20, 2015, 07:35:53 PM
OK, I've never installed a gas line before other than adding a branch line for a gas dryer.
I installed new gas line from house side of meter to 3 fixture locations (range, fireplace, water heater) using 1-1/4" pipe.
(1-1/4" was used for the 70 foot run to accommodate a future tankless water heater)
All ends are capped, but for pressure gauge at exterior.
Pipes were pressured to 20 psi with compressed air on October 26.
Gas pressure on November 1 was 17.6 psi.
Gas pressure on November 16 was 8.8 psi.
11.2 psi pressure loss over 21 days or .....
.7 psi per 24 hours/day.

Am I OK to connect appliances and ask for a final meter hookup inspection and expect a likely pass?

The snow is starting to deepen and its getting a bit cold without any heat source. :)
Cheers!!!
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Danfish on November 21, 2015, 12:52:50 PM
Keep in mind that your gas piping will only receive 1/4 pound of pressure downstream of the meter and that a 20 pound pressure test is overkill and runs the risk of creating leaks.  Typical code jurisdictions require a 10 pound test with zero drop over 15 minutes.  Usually they require that gauge have a maximum range of 15 pounds (difficult to detect small drop in pressure on a 100 pound gauge).

Rule of thumb used by many plumbers is that drop (adjusting for temperature differential) should not exceed 5 pounds in 24 hours.  Your results would indicate you most likely have a leak; however, it does not exceed the rule of thumb.  See what happens after a few hours at 10 pounds.  If you see any drop...soap test all connections.

There is a growing problem with the poor quality in Chinese manufactured pipe fittings, especially the threads!!!

Make sure you're in compliance with local test requirements before you call for inspection and don't be surprised if inspector looks at gauge and is gone in five minutes.
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on November 20, 2017, 12:17:13 AM
Well, it's been a long time since I posted. Mainly because it's just me doing all the work and I have a day job 200 miles away as well as a wifey and kid that has plenty on their plate that requires my undivided attention.
Here's a rehash due to the Photobucket crap that I just learned about tonight, along with current exterior progress....
This is how the exterior looked at time of purchase May 20013:

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The first thing I did with the exterior was to remove all the battens and windows and bury the existing siding under 1/2" OSB..

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The goal is to create an insulated remote wall.
On top of the OSB, I placed 2" foam board(Rmax), held in place with 2x4 furring screwed into studs using 6" Ledgerloks...


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This was all covered with 5/8 Densglass sheathing for fire resistance..

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and also had to construct my own bombproof meter shed...

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(https://6kypra.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4mDRG6EKGxy-vMyh6t-t-TYW7XL0cbv2LVzbfbyv51WbtxTgCPFb9wZM39Qje7YITuDFsyoO_4w0zqMgzCDi9VEEQbeuWvzUbJtfp507atJB905jy1TOWV0rmPXjUlwvLWHzXdR6p8I6r10y-b3d97h5mm6euNJy0ooIVgX9qAPb27_yS966k19xEc8aEEClgnnu8IOJfzoMAQKwT3tnjK3g?width=3072&height=2304&cropmode=none)
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(https://6kyiqq.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4mTofZ8IvmMA9kFi0UxeZFHVAMO5TTv6grcLU34g8kbC10fMk-9YLaC_ybl7UWr8n6J6zHxB9m51Wm1ZTX-zZNAkFVqRUssm_YDsNyJuNDCihDnYf1PX92f-5k3qgn8xciy9SruAn776yNMEO_IOAW5F7Rbu3pRBbP4kZiUXHL0nGljZhuPtgHiTOth_7nolbM_ddiyBknhRUQ7FxlK0AtCg?width=4288&height=2848&cropmode=none)

Installed Milgard Tuscany windows....

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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HSY2X8FKKHNeORgEdhu59lb7WnXuJyyWqhxpV6A4hiceNX_9HpsgqNYEvHGMh7uOCyo9gxv2BygIWFBhSdvWFId6uE609aOZVHAQ74pVs5Wtm59Qn6BacZP-h3eENM-IfHV00tyPnxKymEq7J9uwmdwX58z4YLngmpV5FgXXGF3QX08IfzEML4GPrI7FrHiLf_I-qoSTjSkzoaFFBqCXmXMgkhJo-NwaDsHGbGrd6xlMDHfAV2FJ04yyxHfg8tPulN3ckTEY0z7-vFO4z2RPieRi80B-JYmG_PLhgeNzZEIC0BfDzzFfUacPW9_C1zzE1Np5VQ7w878tgc6mINUoSFx9m60rbfqn35RXgzCysZPT4ryRhAuxuyoMfwPTZybvcqa_P87WU8G5Lq9PanaFiBFtDxy2u89OFjL_Y46odYaITFSve5n_G-tt73dOSekFO28tp8PJ40Bjy1MKqNEzpJ5jievx9BBiq6Qqq76VJ3wqM_0oSGjkx3rSYcNhZjECKdoXhfa8fXjA3QUU5CmrY26Dema6qDRban4yJ03circfI6oJDA7JPks_5_SKtJUoTW36TpMYebNzSXmh1JLZ9Cpulo1ZzvHfVAVJnGwD=w1015-h761-no)
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Covered everything with Tyvec.....

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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8WJOtm2bMmx3JaUeIRQu97xB8G7MDqO-Tb_3w2xCKh3uO6b745BCa2A7jqQAFOQCyVunZWyCnub-Y2x6X8j7r5WagToAuFvlrGgD_evvW2Yo9ni3Zj5l6ooj_ELF_2O_YKI3uEhQ07MtQEhGUyJWGFDiZImbn9dhVx1Lnuwpfw886AYJhg0DY2SRdDthSNn_Apr03nC5wCZkfUKdW-3wZuoSNJMrgybNCPmOLYFIObspEr9x6767T5T8ECr1chNsJY33EI_jtWwak3YGtJo_5VexxlxdnGzJNoXtJvTfcp8JWvKHWJe8muTl97KthFHOs_FirQw0qaAdMt9JeooorO4WgrWYpMUhuyoO9DzNoFY7tymAMriwNFPE0HUxAETDU4iOMX0FpTY6gmMvkp-b3uNO_o11GPpbmgpMvtx4iThLy_43lbpxIS7pNh-sILtt4dADuH5z1i1EtW7l_sOk7jYCMzpe4xJxijmJeT10VfHncbUQ84EcPx7sQFoJGMZZTa4a41FFcLiRFd29mXvZ7QlCmZ98kJtZmbn0PID3MKJIrE25GB2eoQB0dCtFwoAta83STvkSeW9jnTFj1qzEam5qcAgyYoTFgP6IqAI0=w1146-h762-no)
Then waited for the Winter of 2017 to thaw out....

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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/BwGvBQV2G5UDEQD3sJfsOuh4c2t7gCk-IG4DjbxrpK3JcC1PKH9cO94iUJbZ2FtW6SiG0xeMaj7WKm5NNK1G8IDyafF1468Wj2Q3J-BuUvy_jO4aUtbAXHayAh1GCdpz54t6-yk58jS6simZBFjN-CkdT4tBIYuqF2ysOi9kDljFadnsJZVZmPNEF4O95mXNJjyZxjUjguuo_yvM0_LYP8eHmFkdpeQNwO58i1vZMJhz_01KcT2-7BGUqEeyTBNUFqqVVNthDaEZJRfEJnuK2ZnRo5FBCiQsHF8Nk7CnVwqAYL9_e2MMiseZTf5Ic1wOxGTu1-o2BSB3JjcsHt6R8N2fWDky9HAZYSqcMywwkyc8z0zCOE4kNehaDqrK7gyp-adtNJt9rGkMgU2odc9CZvN1JHi3w2G_lV-BCjrUi0cW3dQYMpdGo2io_P8WqZma1Olyr8YChwvSEGmYzh7wo_87-AT5ei0ho3NZzgWsXNv54rwwHofKQaZtNTcIyClrYo64qOcY4dj8K0u0TyM0pDxTPf2AY0Djm3Cb46uG0oHgtZTISWJZoxjZw0Fm9oz48q-INk-PdpWyE7faIpUzpjIFzS4MzqTr62ewHiM_NQ=w1146-h762-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VzVQ97cTRN6AvT5nsLiV69BPYFZu8xD1lC9hqnUl0oBrD62d3CbXUv3rYZkhpXv4_yNDhwapdneNhVJKgsuLO5F5psK54OyTo8hgbkQdgr5ouxLToZkq7ZPQG5ptn7CkmnX6QzLTTJmeT1A4nffJIBa_zGO0eeMnfYQp4aGGqvLQODXPqPMvXbdiO1NRypbThN1rYpJOJWjRxwJu6di7wIYXbCezQE02DEyIQvklgj2oaLG5yzherOZPMAjzDb3U6tyE9FhBd1kJCj0AjaM9zp3VUOZLPIzL8N0Xe3cCpHNIByRybfiRnhS4Ien-UGSAqEWtDzgKNVxXpNT6X9WQouXA_-JF9fALNocKVzM4zGshXB330b5XcPq9YbFWsR1imTNDGTPvZwlIV2MwC4xHek3GoBsdMW6RncMjltWsHM_7w23XmwatzAIsoBDIirIYp7juCJifJ1mH-ERMzIxmGhkR7IUwqsvcH9jQSTJ7a60KVc45Vjmz0yfuxSNXYFfkCq2wVOCy2K8hgNZdMSr7-q4GUCPiYiiV_RcvcOO8IrHInuogKZqqcbvndG9g3FZlZUqTyiRzJbuMgMRBcaD6Xay7iSaR4pmGF4mibWktSg=w1146-h762-no)
Began placing T&G Cedar siding on in June 2017

(https://gxsaiq.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4mNkbS6IINtBWs9_iuISHsjbwFZvfQoE1rsEtiKL2Zw1I9i390K2rYSwGzGrs5WOBqDDH0AlOu-R8T7c0H_a8nRp-JEV724bztSDG3tf_Qq9wP_eHML80eMHKNjZlM_YARcn1NfAKVNQ_HkeFIHNNxx67karM4Y5NOtXKnNH2e9MJEIJQ5-KQp_BdKmxrXooNHPyevrJ700-q1rUcYYqLyrg?width=4288&height=2848&cropmode=none)(https://rusfiw.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4m_hsAKt_R2OLy2C08Fo_ID1dBy1PJiNdIscOBS54ySyLJ8iCRajaGjQk8O0g5Jb7SfiPiDdB6hHYp0RpSJ_Th97tqIL4v0nOECXd279u-q_60nQsIyZsQRtFRtDKSH0tQKlUwBFgP04u2khgftApDKYVOj77OxJ0PZW4LkZVBgHLKfDP5nBx3qiurFE1JftpQimfpvo6pNG1gAu7OT987mA?width=4288&height=2848&cropmode=none)

(https://gxtsww.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4mn6m3OGghV1BO-WjcGukRk73cTcRfNicJw9qdNfslMkkEsfw2oXIpaOr4X84vkSCr3koGJv3y-rXf7KA3tsdY0tnBsrPUEzB3XccBqPUHrheESzZpf5fMOT73tMn8JBxFGTZ9kl6tNhgPo_mTWiZC2bDQLPOSgfy6ashmuIyHDg8znvAbkPLNqngEUpABMz6czfT_Q7fYyODfXEgVUYASXw?width=4288&height=2848&cropmode=none)
(https://gxvr5g.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4mjZPi__Z9pY6QRLeKfWH3nS5xjdOc_pBPeW3xbaLfcnpTvT73krZhcIfLFJHRbnME3a29IWIpdxHO4O8ScKJmD0Awl2dguup485l0G8LE5wfVj87qalKSfqXjEWaVLgjxsbeBKpJVyJ-SLmmyf3H7Lierbl0Bltbm3WXat3OOGbY6Rprw_SnWGBb69tgLFjYRL9DX4T1nnfpOc5ZSsNSNkA?width=4288&height=2848&cropmode=none)
As of November 13, 2017 it now looks like this....

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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Yk3YdW5bC89NCToNRlzuiUN31DFqgh-DkWfyRa_GbLXIZ4TfyKQf2glXdKtz1HjZkuE29YtvKcLFbPVKp8znVR6dFOAHKnXwT18ym68wAAJ8VnKxLuwa4Xs_6vRnZ-VD0iQuCc34mKGJN-ZwQSN1Ix5RYpfBPfJdaSir7RUZCYCNthor61TNwkIukLMPI1aACmTCyFkN-RlJ6enKzUHqtBzjH3dwMduHw1IRG3nU0Jt5EnwmIxO-tERM_MA_ZjtvTzxlTXGJ5PdPvFdWYAwVo24wiWKGabNZbACF44VVbQivHTa9s1_FtIuC3LzPoFFF6kuagwSIMN65brtXoofe_A4cC9_YpbyGO8cZR0KV1FTeDWLAnrMteNXeck3JZCcvwHvps9aPbvW1LI3p48C4W5jNDostGXpOT9q7A4-pD6Y6fS01WVu-U9Tt47b28ejv7y4Qewk69Mcmm4TajJrh8QJzEHYxWomyny2ZWFCeJDJJgkMCHtiXh7C1lL3Sf9gpSdnJB9Cqy7vYChHUxQtQqtBtusaiu0ewDYruvKgysPNqS0fMxDyhqCmxHXKO4tfRb2uhVq0W7sTv74O3OAKzF9KJ4WjSNLGxiNCs_2KLTA=w1146-h762-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Yk3YdW5bC89NCToNRlzuiUN31DFqgh-DkWfyRa_GbLXIZ4TfyKQf2glXdKtz1HjZkuE29YtvKcLFbPVKp8znVR6dFOAHKnXwT18ym68wAAJ8VnKxLuwa4Xs_6vRnZ-VD0iQuCc34mKGJN-ZwQSN1Ix5RYpfBPfJdaSir7RUZCYCNthor61TNwkIukLMPI1aACmTCyFkN-RlJ6enKzUHqtBzjH3dwMduHw1IRG3nU0Jt5EnwmIxO-tERM_MA_ZjtvTzxlTXGJ5PdPvFdWYAwVo24wiWKGabNZbACF44VVbQivHTa9s1_FtIuC3LzPoFFF6kuagwSIMN65brtXoofe_A4cC9_YpbyGO8cZR0KV1FTeDWLAnrMteNXeck3JZCcvwHvps9aPbvW1LI3p48C4W5jNDostGXpOT9q7A4-pD6Y6fS01WVu-U9Tt47b28ejv7y4Qewk69Mcmm4TajJrh8QJzEHYxWomyny2ZWFCeJDJJgkMCHtiXh7C1lL3Sf9gpSdnJB9Cqy7vYChHUxQtQqtBtusaiu0ewDYruvKgysPNqS0fMxDyhqCmxHXKO4tfRb2uhVq0W7sTv74O3OAKzF9KJ4WjSNLGxiNCs_2KLTA=w1146-h762-no)

(https://vhlutq.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4mM0VrECpCMTZNmC9aYYPzzS8xxm2Y3nqN0S3KZR52KwrYr6u4T87gU2fzeBOXeiHDG75EdzV0mYb99JStKCfyVtN9JHt5TFKLuMWUulyx83e9f-z3bEwuwTbYpzSI_QQkGcTPFPwDRwiOLuRYvZWyKaeo63wws_MhorZEa6QM_tghSfsaQmYiZPtHMXPv-YXKoqlJ4LTPB8urILlHR81GZw?width=4288&height=2848&cropmode=none)

Our view......


(https://6ka3kg.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4m2QDN5H-aXUnW5Tyfml5yO8cuDyHhX9r9sEtKuwXpFOUKX3ls8j-eGbNxM6pYvXuinb_EOgoYi-q_F6txdLNeOn0-zcldnxVNutVmLtCD4IGLzkVtvKE_r4wCTcv4PzgU4VVmvmBgEUDg-Pm17W9jCTiR2_5YlFJkYVqMhgrXi6U1b_zyCr_kRZdz2xmFuAZalWNC-M5NDnZyg10MESzoYQ?width=4288&height=2848&cropmode=none)


(https://ttkyqw.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4miTH3zMBaKv8UIOjOBAcCaenh8_qzkUE9ih5S1CiuEvCC8VyT9HzCIqhMkzkPMnG7Z4OAK49Gl9EwSvRqsviJM6b1_8l8or-cy7vB61jV49I6VebfW2J-vAD7h69PmTYHv6z2JuUAT5Z_1PbKMmr5QSj07jiqlbcYxcRH1KJYfPExlYvJ4Tn9kTmdenv1kaLBx37U-a0QVFdg0OAtsmrviQ?width=4288&height=2848&cropmode=none)


(https://6kapcq.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4mSUbRw_FAmW8V3dHCBJ93o8ukKN35FyQS_Uk6m0dR3oez-FkzcHZKgaCwTH9ptCJ14zULShVkLBzb0hdCkjz5bVm8GhZk_mRQ1obXi0CycQmxYGwEaljJiPkq5rE-1rLvROX1eYuZVDYiI6qDSouXn5PFD1hRadxR9OTyBMjeqH4ICqckS_cZtm_683jNmHvAmJpR-8aCEFlItVVUEBQRHw?width=2848&height=4288&cropmode=none)
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: Savvy on December 12, 2017, 02:37:33 AM
fixed
Title: Re: Lair Of The Bear, Incline Village Lake Tahoe
Post by: pmichelsen on December 12, 2017, 11:05:46 AM
Wow place is looking great.