Installing a Wood Stove Basics

[speedfunk]

Since I'm at the point of of looking for chimney kits or the pieces I need to order.  I found this great site.  It's straight, to the point.  List different chimney types.  General info for safe , good working install.


http://hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/installing_a_woodstove

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Installing a Woodstove - The Basics on How to Install a Wood Burning Stove. .

The Chimney
  * Insulated Metal Chimney
  * Masonry Chimneys
  * Installing into an Existing Fireplace or Chimney

The Stovepipe
  * Single Wall Stovepipe
  * Close Clearance Stovepipe

Floor and Wall Protection
  * Underneath Your Stove
  * On the Walls

Click HERE for a Quick Summary of this Document (if you want the basics in a flash)

Legal Disclaimer - This document is not designed to replace your owners manual. It is written to provide an overview of safe installation practice. Consult your hearth professional, building officials and owners manual for the specific installation needs of your appliance. Your dealer or local building official is the best source for additional information. You can also find a list of installers certified by The National Fireplace Institute:
(http://www.nficertified.org/pages_consumers/consumers-1.html), an educational foundation.

The Chimney

OK, we're going to talk a little about how to properly install a wood burning stove. The first thing we have to do is to forget about the woodstove and concentrate on the most important part of an installation - the chimney!

RULE #1 - Every Wood stove Must Have a Chimney
This means either a sound masonry chimney (more on these later) or a UL approved Stainless Steel Class "A" Insulated Chimney. No - you cannot use stovepipe through the window or roof!
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Double & Triple Wall Insulated Class "A" Chimneys

Now that we have that out of the way, let's look at the most popular option for new installations, the Class "A" Insulated Chimney (now commonly called HT or High Temperature). The diagram above shows the three most common installation types.

Type #1 would be common in any single story construction. Regular black stove pipe is run upwards from the stove and connects with the Insulated Chimney at a special support box located immediately below the ceiling level. Insulated chimney is then stacked up until the required height is obtained. All chimneys must extend a minimum of 3 feet above the roof surface and 2 feet higher than any part of the building within 10 feet.

Type #2 shows an "out and up" chimney, which exits through a wall and continues up along the side of the home. If desired, this chimney could be boxed in with wood framing and stuccoed or sided to match the home.

Type #3 is similar to type #1 in that it is a single story installation, but different components are needed due to the slanted ceiling. In this case, the pipe is supported by a bracket at the roof level, and Insulated Chimney Pipe hangs down partially into the room to connect to the interior black stovepipe.

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Things to remember

  * No Stovepipe can pass through Walls, Ceilings, Floors or Windows—Use only UL Approved Chimney
  * Generally speaking, the taller the chimney, the better
  * The fewest bends = the best draft (chimney suction)
  * Chimney Should extend 2 feet above anything within 10 Feet or 3 feet above peak
  * Use a cap which prevents birds from entering
  * Consult with your Hearth Dealer, Chimney Sweep and Building Official

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Masonry Chimneys

The details as to the building of masonry chimneys are beyond the scope of this document, however there are a few safety and performance issue to keep in mind. It is commonly known in the Hearth Industry that 80-90% (or more!) of the masonry chimneys in the US are constructed improperly. The sad truth is that some masons spent so many years building low-temperature chimneys for oil burners, gas burners and fireplaces that the art of proper chimney construction has become almost lost.
What's wrong with most masonry chimneys ?

  * They are often oversize and not insulated, resulting in poor draft and excess creosote formation
  * Proper clearances to combustible (wood framing, siding, etc.) are not maintained
  * No room for expansion of the flue tiles, resulting in cracked and damaged liners

These deficiencies can be addressed during new construction by a competent mason, and a properly designed and built masonry chimney is a work of art that can last for generations. An existing (but deficient) masonry chimney can often be brought up to spec by installing a UL approved stainless steel liner system. This provides an extra margin of safety as well as improves draft and simplifies cleaning.

For the proper information on building masonry fireplaces and chimneys, see the links below:
http://www.gobrick.com/BIA/technotes/t19b.htm
http://www.maconline.org/tech/construction/chimney/chimney.html
http://www.bia.org/html/fireplace_and_chimney.html

Things to Remember about Masonry Chimneys

  * The flue liner of the chimney should be the same size (or just a tad bigger) than the stovepipe size,
  * The chimney should be located inside the building if possible, and insulated (with vermiculite or other masonry insulation
  * The flue liner should be either a "cast-in-place" type (ask your hearth dealer) or other form of constructions which allows for expansion.
  * Most existing masonry chimneys need to be relined with stainless steel pipe

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Installing into an Existing Fireplace or Chimney

What'd you say, Bunky ? You've got an fireplace or chimney which has sat unused and is just waiting for a stovepipe to be shoved into it ! Not so fast - some thought processes are required here. Lets start with the fireplace.


Typical Fireplace Installation

In the "olden days" (yes, I was there), folks just shoved the stove in front of the fireplace, and stuck a piece of stovepipe up toward the damper area. If they were real smart, they fit some old fiberglass insulation around it so as to stop too much room air from escaping up the chimney (made the stove draft stronger too).
Chimney professionals soon saw that there were a lot of problems with this setup. The stoves drafted poorly, created lots of creosote and the more-than-occasional chimney fires ! As a result of these problems, the Hearth Industry and the National Fire Protection Association put together a set of more modern guidelines.
First, determine if you have a masonry fireplace and chimney. If you have a metal (zero clearance) fireplace and metal chimney, your options are very limited. Only a few inserts are tested for use in these "pre-fab" fireplaces. Check with your local Hearth Retailer - and confirm in the installation manual or manufacturers literature. DO NOT "FUDGE" A WOOD STOVE INTO AN EXISTING METAL FIREPLACE!
see: http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/wiki/Convert_Prefab_Fireplace/
for more information on this subject.

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Assuming you have a "real" brick or masonry fireplace and flue.......

Here are the basics

  * At the minimum, extend a 5 foot flexible stainless steel tube from your stove or insert up through the damper and into the first flue tile.
  * If the chimney is unlined, or if you want to do the best possible job, line the entire height of the chimney with stainless steel pipe the same size as the flue collar on your stove - typically 6" (see your Hearth Retailer).
  * Seal the area below the fireplace damper with a metal pan , seal it tightly with furnace cement or high temp silicone:
(http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/making_a_block_off_plate/)
  * Always have a cap (spark arresting, if possible) on the chimney top.

Using another existing chimney
Houses with unused chimneys tend to be older homes, as these structures were often built with multiple chimneys for heating, cooking, etc. Often, these older chimneys are not safe to use without some upgrading. They can be lined with approved stainless steel pipe or restored with special masonry processes (ask your chimney sweep). Pay special attention to the wall pass-through, which is the area where your stove pipe will connect to your chimney. Any wood or combustible material in this are must be cut back to comply with building codes. Special insulated sleeves are available to accomplish this transition.

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The Stovepipe

Stovepipe is used to make a connection from a free standing stove to it's metal or masonry chimney. As previously mentioned, it is not to be used for passing through Walls, Floors or Ceilings. There are two kinds of Stovepipe, Single Wall (one layer) and Close Clearance (two walls). Here's the lowdown on Stovepipe:

Single Wall Stovepipe
Single wall stovepipe is designed to connect a wood stove to a nearby chimney. It is available in different thicknesses (24 ga. or 22 ga.) and is usually painted with a high temperature black paint. Some manufacturers produce stovepipe in porcelain enamel colors to match their stoves.
As a general rule (check your label and instructions), stovepipe must be kept at least 18" from any combustible wall , ceiling or furniture. This distance can be reduced in two different ways:

  * Protect the combustible surface with an approved method (see Walls and Floors below)
  * Install a Stovepipe Heat Shield on the Stovepipe (available through your Hearth Dealer)
    The reductions gained by these methods is usually 50% (9 inches).

Stovepipe can usually be trimmed to size with a tin shears or other cutting or grinding tool - see:
http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/wiki/Cut_Sheet_Metal_and_Stove_Pipe/.
Heavier gauge pipe can be more difficult to cut, so these pipes use adjustable slip joints, which eliminate the need for trimming. When assembling your stovepipe, use black furnace cement to seal between each piece. In addition, use three sheet metal screws at each joint in the pipe.
Attach the pipe securely to the stove and chimney, assuring that it is rigid and tight.

Close - Clearance Stovepipe
This is a double wall stovepipe with a stainless steel inner wall and a black painted outer wall. An air space in between the stovepipe walls serves as an insulating layer, allowing this special pipe to be as close as 6" to combustibles. Do not confuse this double-wall interior piping with the Class A Chimney described in the beginning of this document—this stuff is for interior use only ! Ask your Hearth Dealer for more information about this type of Stovepipe.

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Floor and Wall Protection

Underneath your Stove
My first experience with lack of proper floor protection came when I was homesteading in West Virginia. Our house had no central heating, but there was a fireplace ready to serve our heating needs. Even back then (1970) I knew that Fireplaces didn't heat well, so I went to the hardware store and bought a $20. sheet metal woodstove. It didn't fit into the fireplace, so I took the legs off and sat it directly on the hearth of the fireplace.
That night, we lit a roaring fire and settled in for a peaceful winter eve. Suddenly, we smelled something burning !...smelled like wood. After a frantic search we discovered that the floor underneath the fireplace hearth was smoldering.
There are a number of approved materials for underneath a woodstove. Some of them are:

  * Concrete slab, bare or with any tile or brick installed above it
  * Pre-Fab UL Approved Stove Boards and Mats
  * Ceramic Tile, Marble or Slate installed on top of UL Listed cement underlayment board (dura-rock and wonderboard are two brand names.

Different stoves have different requirements, but all woodstoves need to have a non-combustible base underneath. This base should extend a minimum of 8 inches around all sides of the stove and 18 inches in front of any loading doors. In addition, the stove board should extend underneath and horizontal run of the stovepipe connection to the chimney.

[John Raabe]

I read the information on choosing a chimney and the pros and cons of each type - it was right on with my experience - two thumbs up!

[speedfunk]

Thanks John for confirming.  It seems to be logical 

[Redoverfarm]

Thought I would resurrect an older post that I might have overlooked. There is many post specific to individual needs concerning the woodstove installation but this is one that I thought would be apprioate.  It contains some good information  regarding woodstove installation, diagrams of different parts needed and assembly overlay .  The only thing that it does not address or should I say limited in regards to the placement of the stove on a suitable surface to prevent it from catching fire.  Everyone forgets to address RAISE IT UP.   .  I say this because I am constantly reminded as the winter season approaches and I get down on the floor to load the stove.    As our age increases so does our ability to move, stoop, bend  and lift.  The amount of useable space to construct a raised hearth takes no more room than leaving it on the floor. If you actually wanted to be creative you could construct storage areas ( doors/drawers) under the hearth and come out with more storage areas than you originally had.  So I say to you, look head you will not stay young forever.