Scheduled June 2nd blast in NV

Started by Chuckca, April 02, 2006, 02:33:34 AM

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Chuckca

Hmmmmmmm!  What are your thoughts.  Mine are short - I think we're headed to Iran.  :(.  I sure hope I'm wrong.

Sassy

I hope you're wrong too... wonder if they're using DU?
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PEG688

Well everyones wants in the game ,

 TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran announced its second major new missile test within days, saying Sunday it has successfully fired a high-speed underwater missile capable of destroying huge warships and submarines.

 It was not immediately clear whether the ship-fired missile can carry a nuclear warhead.

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060402/D8GNV9880.html

 Who do you think they are figuring on shooting at?

 Have a nice day, PEG


   
When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .

glenn-k

Our administration has been intent on Iran for a long time.  They are just trying to figure out a way to get the public to accept it.

I think they should finish what's on their plate already before they take another giant helping.  We can't even clean up the mess we've created in Iraq with the current administration admitting to "thousands of mistakes in Iraq."  
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4865344.stm

These are the people we trust to lead us into another unprovoked attack against a country with the ability to defend itself vigorously? :-/  We can't even take out a few rag-tag individuals running around in street clothes.

Bouncer

I think they have some weapons to worry about but I think there mainly blowing smoke.
They never said anything about this stuff till they had to worry about an attack. If they had it earlier they would have show it off to the world.
Turn Iran into a parking lot.
Kevin


Amanda_931

I thought we were taking out plenty of rag-tag individuals running around in street clothes.

One question is "what is a country?"  What kind of rights does it have--self-determination, self-defense, right to make internal mistakes?  But what about external ones?

glenn-k

#6
We are--that is true-- I guess that's why it is estimated that we have killed up to 100,000 civilians.  

I don't know that making mistakes is a right-- seems it is more of a mis-calculation.  A  country is as far as I can figure, the sum of it's outward appearances and actions.  One that goes around to it's neighbors pushing and shoving will not be well thought of.  Murder of innocents is still murder of innocents by any other name.  External mistakes are the airing of our dirty laundry.  They make us look stupid.  The actions we allow our leaders to take are what the world judges us by.  

Self defence is not pre-emtively attacking countries who have not attacked us.  

Why should Iran have to mention their weapons because they are worried about an attack - why should they have to worry about  being attacked?  I have worked with an Iranian Doctor going to do a clinic.  He was a blast.  No need to blast him.  I still contend that the civilians of any country don't want to die or kill us any more than we want to kill our friends or neighbors.  Corrupt leadership, power, greed, religious intolerance  and money  are the cause of that type of action.

I suggest that our world leaders who want to fight just go and fight to the death, sparing the children of their people.  There are nearly no children of our leaders in the war.  That's not the point though-- if we didn't have the war the money would not go to the corporations and the big money representatives running our country- the oil would not get controlled.

Chuckca


glenn-k

You think that will shake the San Andreas loose, Chuck? :-/


Chuckca

Crap!  Never thought about that....time to pack - hang on  - kiss it good bye!

Amanda_931

My dad changed careers when he was in his 40's--for a lot of reasons--he was bored, for one.  And he had to go back to school for the new job.  While he was there, mostly still bored, he was persuaded to join the United States Public Health Reserve.  With the Navy equivalent rank of Commander, not near as impressive as it sounds to people without any connection with the Navy.

He ended up going a bunch of times to Nevada to officially observe bomb tests, thought it great fun.  He ended up with some sort of thyroid problem later, possibly from that.

And eventually deciding that the human costs of the tests were too great.



Sassy

Funny you should mention that, Amanda... I was just looking at an old video of a detonation of an Atom Bomb in Nevada... here's a link to it

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6019507430708841097&q=atomic+bomb+explosion+in+Nevada&pl=true

I'm sure the radiation did affect your dad's thyroid... around the early 20th century they even used to think exposure to radioactive isotopes was curative...  :-?

glenn-k

I used to fly over Nevada and always wondered why the ground looked so funny there--lots of polka dot hills on the ground--- later learned it was from bomb testing underground.

Sassy

#13
Here's a link on the scheduled blast -  nuclear or not?

Another link - US Rolls Out Nuclear Plans


Boatz

Mr. Hersch seems to think we are pretty serious about attacking Iran...

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060417fa_fact

Am I the only one who thinks a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran just may be criminal on our part?

Time to call the congresscritters... these nutballs! what in the world could they be thinking?

:-/

glenn-k

#15
You are absolutely right, Boatz.  Our leaders are war criminals.  The attack on Iran has been planned for a long time.  The criminals leading our country are just trying to present it in a way that the sheeple will accept it.  How many more of our children will have to die in support of globalist dictators and corporate interests?

Murder in the name of a fake war on terror is still murder.
 Hopefully if nothing else happens, at least they will have to answer to someone higher.

Try the congress critters if you like but there are only a couple that are worth a hoot.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=6264
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12440.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4999734/
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1116-27.htm

Amanda_931

Remember that both the president and vice-president can do things like declassifying documents.  I wonder, can they reclassify them as well?  And do both retroactively, so that anything that the administration wanted leaked wasn't leaked when it was leaked, but it was leaked--criminally--when was leaked the second time.  

Or something.

(one commentator--Tom Engelhardt of tomdispatch--decided that next week we would hear that they could impeach congress   ;)  Oh, yeah!)

Jimmy_Cason

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Amanda_931

I always figured that if we had to have capital punishment, the means should be----

manual strangulation by the elected (or appointed or hired) official of your choice.

with "you" awake.

glenn kangiser

Sounds cool, Amanda ---got any pictures?

You know how we love pictures. :)
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Boatz

Glenn - I figure it never hurts to even contact the knuckleheads - at least make 'em a little sweaty around the edges when they get enough complaints... it's going to take a critical mass of complaints just to get anyone to mention anything to the powers that be...

As far as the Fitzgerald investigation - errr... if the information leaked WAS declassified, then why was there an investigation? Couldn't have Bush just said, "no classified info leaked"? oh yeah - that's right, that makes sense! Silly me!

I always get a sense that Jon Lovitz' character is hanging around the White House sayin', "yeah! that's the ticket!"

Amanda_931

#21
I'll work on it Glenn  ::)

Greg Palast and Elizabeth de la Vega have both written stuff recently about how there's still a problem if it was legal for the President and Vice President to (secretly?) declassify documents.  In some ways even more of a problem.

Link to the Palast--this wasn't on his own website but that link is below.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/041006N.shtml  

QuoteFurthermore, while presidents may leak ("declassify") intelligence information, they may not obstruct justice; that is, send a grand jury on a wild goose chase.

www.gregpalast.com

Tom Engelhardt ran the de la Vega, with a few pretty evil comments of his own.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?emx=x&pid=76008

QuoteIs a President, on the eve of his reelection campaign, legally entitled to ward off political embarrassment and conceal past failures in the exercise of his office by unilaterally and informally declassifying selected -- as well as false and misleading -- portions of a classified National Intelligence Estimate that he has previously refused to declassify, in order to cause such information to be secretly disclosed under false pretenses in the name of a "former Hill staffer" to a single reporter, intending that reporter to publish such false and misleading information in a prominent national newspaper?