Been reading on this blog for the last six month and really enjoy it. The wife and I bought fifteen and one half acres in Lincoln Co. Mo. We are planing on building a house and barn in the next year. We bought the little house plans kit and the 20'x30 1-1/2 story cottage plans. We haven't decided on how big we are going to build yet.
In order to get into the land we had to build a driveway in a 18'x40' easement and across a wet weather creek, we did this last fall & winter.
Please bare with me, my spelling & punctuating is not the best. And I still have A VCR that is still blinking 12:00 o,clock.
That should give you what type A person I'm.
Marking & cleaning up the drive in the easement.
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Clearing out trees & brush at the entrance of the property.
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Dugout for the 30'' culvert pipe n the dry creek or some people call it a wet weather creek.
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Installed culvert pipe and covered with rock. I'm now able to drive in with my 2 wheel drive pickup.
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To get the rest of the drive done, I hired a high lift to grade the rest of it and dig ditches on both sides.
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The next day I got the sides of the drive finished graded, seeded & strawed. My budget was $5,000.00 spent $8,000.00 .
I need to do a better job of estimating .
As Paul Harvey would say," Now the rest of the story." That night and the next morning after getting everything done, except for the large 6" to 8" rock around the 30"culvert pipe, we got 8'' of rain. This washed the culvert pipe out and about 4 loads of rock.
This is where the 30" culvert pipe was :-[
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Seed & straw washed away.
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Rock & culvert pipe down the creek. >:(
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Obviously not a dry creek !............and maybe needs a larger culvert !
Sand bags - gabions may be required to safely divert that fast flowing stream into the culvert and prevent errosion
obviously flows pretty fast and powerful when wet !
UK4X4
You are right. It does needs a bigger pipe. The rain storm we had that night caused a lot of flooding. People that had large culvert pipes in their driveways for years got washed out. After talking to a few contractors it was recommended that I go with a larger pipe and don't use plastic! And that I should go with concrete pipe. So after everything dried up I had a 36" concrete pipe installed.
36" concrete pipe installed, three 8' sections at 4500 lb a piece
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Top of drive over pipe.
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I'm planning to pour concrete down the front and back sides of the pipe.
If we lived a lot closer I sure would take your plastic pipe off you hands. Idaho is just too far away but we are sort of planning a trip over your way sometime this year. ;)
But the way the stuff in the crystal ball is lining up most likely sometime this year next year!!! ???
Wow! That is crazy!
Glad you overcame it!
Your ditches look good and wide. Don't let water flow over that road and it will last a good while.
If you have any build up of water in the uphill ditch, fix it right away. I let one of my uphill ditches get away from me, and I'm still fighting it.
Austin
Quote from: rick91351 on February 24, 2015, 08:55:04 AM
If we lived a lot closer I sure would take your plastic pipe off you hands. Idaho is just too far away but we are sort of planning a trip over your way sometime this year. ;)
But the way the stuff in the crystal ball is lining up most likely sometime this year next year!!! ???
Rick
You would spend more money in fuel hauling the pipe back to Idaho than it is worth. You are more than welcome to come by and see us.
Quote from: dablack on February 25, 2015, 10:17:07 AM
Wow! That is crazy!
Glad you overcame it!
Your ditches look good and wide. Don't let water flow over that road and it will last a good while.
If you have any build up of water in the uphill ditch, fix it right away. I let one of my uphill ditches get away from me, and I'm still fighting it.
Austin
Austin
We made the ditch wider & deeper after losing the pipe hoping it will act like a detention pond. The culvert pipe is only about 50' from the property line and the neighbor has his ditch full of junk. [ lawnmower, washing machine, dryers, old tires,scrap steel ] We think the reason the pipe came out is that something got stuck in front of it and caused the water to go over the top.
We are looking to do something similar on some land that we own not too far from you in Warren County. Right now we are looking to build a road to the property so that we will have easy access. We will also have to cross a creek. We got one estimate that was recommending a 6 or maybe even 8 foot diameter culvert but said they could probably get by with a 4 foot diameter. After reading this, I am thinking we are going to want at least the 6 foot culvert.
Thanks
I would go as big as you can . This spring we had A large down poor 3 + inches and the water came over the driveway. The good news is that nothing got washed away.
Sorry I haven't posted in a while been busy with my business and taking care of the family. Also I get on the lazy side at times . Did get a little done, planted a garden and started clearing out an area for the house. Also dug the footings for the barn.
My son helping clear out the woods for the house.
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My wife planting in the garden.
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Digging the foundation for the barn.
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The day after we got the footings dug it rained for a whole week.
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Here are the drawings of the barn that I am wanting to build.
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this barn is similar to what I want to build.
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Well we got another 8'' of rain! Guess what. The rock around culvert pipe washed away and moved the pipe side ways. Had plans to concrete the sides and top of the pipe but Mother Nature beat me to it. http://countryplans.com/smf/Smileys/default/sadsm.gif
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Mother Nature does not want that culvert there does she... might want to think about a bridge over that.
Woah, luck is really not on your side. I suppose that means the culvert is still too small? The bridge idea is perhaps a good one...
The power of water is truly amazing.
That be a wet weather river...not creek !-
when rebuilding get some gabions or make them yourself for protecting your bridge
or doubled up culvert
Flow and or volume was simply to much to just pass through the culvert, being that the protective rock and grade stone was loose, it just eroded away
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Sorry about not getting back sooner. I was waiting for an expert to look at the pipe and give me a solution to fix my problem. Building a bridge would be best but about $8,000.00 is more than I can afford. The next best thing would be to reset the pipe and dig the driveway lower past the pipe, so the high water does not flow over the pipe. UK4X4 I like your suggestion using the gabion basket. It would be a lot faster and easier than forming and poring concrete. I'm hoping Monday we can get started.
My son was off work the weekend of July 11th and offered to help to reinstall the the pipe. So I rented a large excavator to get the job done.
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All the pipe removed and a new rock base put down and restalling the pipe.
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Decided to install the 30'' plastic pipe next to the concrete pipe.
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Had to add 5' of plastic pipe to make it the same lengh of the concrete pipe.
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Next job fill around the pipe with 1'' minus rock.
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I rented A skid loader to dig the driveway lower so the water does not go over the pipe.
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Putting surge rock over the pipe and driveway this rock comes right of the crusher without being separated or cleaned.
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We had so much rain the ground is saturated the dump truck got stuck.
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Installed the large rock on the sides.
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Doing the finish grading of the driveway.
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One week later we had a 2'' of rain in a half of an hour so the wife and I drove to the farm to see how the pips did. I hope the 3rd time is charm and I don't have to spend any more money on it. looking good! :)
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This is a low water crossing we have to cross before we get to our property. Same rain storm!
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Finally got a dry spell , no rain. d* Got the foundation in and back filled.(https://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah160/gcockrum/farm/DSC01491_zpski5vb2nw.jpg) (https://s1379.photobucket.com/user/gcockrum/media/farm/DSC01491_zpski5vb2nw.jpg.html)
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My son was off work this week and was willing to help out. So I took advantage of it.
Day one.
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Day two. did not get a lot done. Had to work between rain showers.
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Day three.
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I'm hoping to get the sub floor installed on day four and start on the trusses on day five.
Day four, Installing the sub floor.
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Doing the deck dance.
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Laying out the gambel truss.
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First one up. It only fell down on us one time no body got hurt just a little bruised. It was a long day eleven hours.
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Day five . Got the framing done under the truss. Short day had to go to work in the after noon. :(
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Got a lot done in five days. My son is going back to work Monday so progress will slow down working by myself.
I finely got the trusses done. Been A busy week.
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Now I need to get busy installing the rest of the OSB sheeting. Hey if you guys see something that I'm doing wrong let me know? this is the biggest project that I have done by myself.
you are making progress.. that tractor has a lot of uses. nice work
Quote from: astidham on September 11, 2015, 05:41:55 PM
you are making progress.. that tractor has a lot of uses. nice work
Thanks the tractor has come in handy but with a big price tag.
Sorry about not posting in awhile. My funds starting to run dry and had some family issues that needed to be taken care of. Plus the wife and I are self -employed (We own a small retail store). Had to get ready for the Christmas season. I did get the barn tarped for the winter time.
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The wife and I did spent a little time cleaning up the ground that is going to be our back yard.
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I'm hoping that I can start back on the barn in the next couple of weeks.
I have a question! When I build the lean-to on the barn, I'm planning to use 6''X 6'' treated post every 9' with three 2''X 12'' yellow pine headers with 2''X 12'' rafters every 2' apart. Would it be a good idea to pour 12'' of concrete footers under the post to help support the weight? And should I fill around the post with dirt or rock?
I seriously doubt you need 2x12 rafters, how far horizontally from barn wall to posts? 30lb/ft snow load?
Posts no more than 8' apart, this lets you "weave" 16' 2x12's for the header beam, helps tie that beam together. I'd add another post and refigure spacings if you can.
Footing dimension depends on the answers to the above and the soil bearing capacity, unless it is junk or soft clay it is usually assumed to be 2000lbs /sf capacity. So a 12"x12" footing can safely hold a ton without sinking (not much!) where a 2'x2' footing can hold 8000lbs, now we're getting somewhere. It needs to be thick enough that as it gets wider the post cannot "punch through". At 2'x2' I pour 1' thick and put 4 pcs of 18" long rebar 3" off the bottom in a # pattern. If the concrete is in the ground always have at least 3" of concrete around the steel, keep the oxygen out and it won't rust away anytime soon. Attach the post to the footing so when the tractor bumps the post it doesn't slip and when the wind gets under the shed it cannot lift it. Hurricane ties from rafter to beam, beam well attached to posts. Backfill with whatever, the barn provides lateral stability through the shed roof diaphragm, it's a rigid plate extending out from a braced building, the post footings are providing resistance to up and down only.
Don thanks for your reply! The rafter span will be about 18'4'' The building is 36' long so 9' would come out even spacing on the post. I was planning on using 18' 2''x12''. So with the max spacing of 8' apart I will have to add one more post . No big deal. I could use 8' 12' &16' header beam to weave together. I was thinking of drilling 18'' wide holes X 36'' deep which comes out to be 1.8 sq-ft. 1.8 x 2000lbs = 3600lbs X 6 post = 21600lbs. With the sq-ft of the roof 20' X 39' including over hangs is 780 sq-ft X 40 lb per sq-ft (30 lb for snow & 10lb for dead) =31200lbs divided that in half = 15600lbs. Would this be good enough or should I go bigger? The ground is a hard red clay.
Post footings should be fine @6 posts, you're right there at 5 posts with an overhang, if you go that route I'd flare the bottoms.
Checking header at 9' post spacing, figuring 9' spacing x 10' rafter trib (~1' overhang) x 40psf=3600lbs
I'm getting a good pass at a double 2x12 header. Being a barn, if an engine or a cow is going to hang on that header then the third ply isn't a bad idea. Easy to overload farm buildings. The barn end of the rafters can see ~700 lbs plus whatever comes off the upper roof, connect that end well.
Well I finally got some time off! Got the post holes dug at 18'' dia and put four bags of concrete in each one which gives me about a 16'' thick footing. Post are up and the header done with 3 2x12 at 9' apart. My son came out this Saturday and helped with the rafters which was a big help. It's been getting really hot hear in Missouri in the last few weeks! Between 95 and 100 degrees so progress has been going really slow. I hope to have the metal on the roof by the end of July. (https://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah160/gcockrum/farm/P82A0145_zpswcm1nvm3.jpg) (https://s1379.photobucket.com/user/gcockrum/media/farm/P82A0145_zpswcm1nvm3.jpg.html)
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like the barn style, are you keeping track of the cost/estimate to build. I moved up to Mark Twain lake back in 2011 from St Peters bought 9 acres and in the slow process building a 24x24 cabin. need to build a garage as well but looking at the barn your building thinking I should build the barn first then garage. Can't wait to see the cottage build.
Quote from: Homesteader on August 11, 2016, 02:54:48 PM
like the barn style, are you keeping track of the cost/estimate to build. I moved up to Mark Twain lake back in 2011 from St Peters bought 9 acres and in the slow process building a 24x24 cabin. need to build a garage as well but looking at the barn your building thinking I should build the barn first then garage. Can't wait to see the cottage build.
When I first drew up the plans on the barn the cost estimate came in at $29000.00 plus 10% or about $33000.00.With the changes I made during the build the cost will be more like $35000.00 to $37000.00 the price includes concrete floors and concrete aprons on all three garage doors. I changed the doors on the lean-to to roll up doors instead of sliding doors.The overhangs will also be boxed in. If you would like to come by and see the build send me a private message and i will give you my cell # & directions on how to get there.
It's been awhile since I did a update! I did get the roof on before the end of July it's been so hot that I cant get a lot done . (95-105 degrees) I hope to get the barn done by the end of the year so that i con start on the cabin.
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Sorry i haven't posted in a wile! I did git a little bit done last fall and winter. Got the OSB finished on the sides and the soffit finished and the corner rake on.
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I got my concrete floors done.
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Looks great!
Where did you get the scaffolding?
thanks
Austin
Quote from: dablack on April 19, 2017, 07:44:01 AM
Looks great!
Where did you get the scaffolding?
thanks
Austin
The yellow scaffolding came from a friend of mine that was a fireman and part time brick layer that retired from both jobs so he sold them to me for $50 a section. His aluminum walk boards where in relay bad shape so i bought new ones at $120 a peace the walk boards cost more then the scaffolding. The red ones i borrowed from a friend that borrowed them from a friend that dose not wont them back. This barn is 26' tall! So the scaffolding came in real handy ex specialty when you are doing a lot of the work by your self.
Sounds like a great deal! My house is 26' tall too. That was why I was asking. I'm going to need some good scaffolding to finish the siding.
I did finally get the barn finished.
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Very nice :)
Like every other barn, it looks like you need another one for all the stuff that seems to find its way to the barn :D