I'm building a 20x24 cabin with my Uncle Dave on a 7 acre lot of land in Weare NH, that was passed down from my great grand father, we dont have alot of money so we're building as we have the money .
To catch you guys up with our progress, last November (2005) Dave and I went to the Town of Weare and asked to build a cabin. In March we finally got approved to build.
We started by cutting down the trees that were in the way, we kept the ones we wanted to use for some furniture. Then came the holes we needed for the sauna tubes (w/bigfoots) we planned on digigng the holes ourselves,after a lot of work we realized that it wasn't going to happen, the ground was so rocky that it took us about 2 hours to get down about 10 inches , so we introduced ourselves to our neighbor (1.5 miles away), who had a bunch of construction equipment, we asked for his help and he agreed. After the holes were done we put in the sauna tubes checked it for square and level, back filled and poured the concrete. So far we have spent $1,400 dollars, which is up a little from the $600 we planned on. Iwill have some pics soon any coments will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Alex
I anxiously await your next post. :D
Sounds like my ground, Alex. Please keep us posted.
Here are some pics.
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[size=14]IN THE BEGINNING[/size]
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[size=14]A LITTLE HELP FROM THE NEIGHBOR ONLY A FEW $$$ AND A 12 PACK[/size]
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[size=14]ME TACKLING "BIGFOOT"[/size]
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[size=14]MY BUDDY KYLE CHECKING FOR LEVEL AND PLUMB[/size]
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[size=14]UNCLE DAVE CHECKING TO SEE IF WE'RE SQUARE[/size]
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[size=14]FINALLY READY TO BACKFILL[/size]
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[size=14]POURING 6000 POUNDS OF REDIMIX [/size]
MORE NEXT WEEK ;D
Are your pictures permanently somewhere on the internet?
All I saw was a collection of little red x's
:'(
(I did try for this (from properties)--page not available:
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Looks like you may have to copy the pictures to photobucket then post them here - Yahoo blocks leaching pictures from their service I think - I have never got it to work more than one or two times.
I'd love to have those nice big rocks!
we can fedex you some down. u pay shipping
Dave
That must be Uncle Dave. I'd suggest barter. I think Amanda would help dig for some rocks.
Those look like the ones I have - many of mine go up to 6' or more across but average like the ones you have. Your soil looks like less clay than mine - just a computer screen analysis.
I'd drive the loader!
im working on the pics. I dont know whats wrong but my dad does hopefully tomarrow the'll be up.
Sunday,
we built our floor frame, using doubled up 2x8 PT boards it only took about 6 1/2 hours, everything went smooth, which was suprising, seeing how everything else we've done so far fought us tooth and nail, the best part was when we checked it for square it was only off a 1/2 inch and we easily ajusted it. I remember spending a whole day trying to get our stakes square. What a day (alot of yelling and swearing) next weekend we should be putting in our floor joices. cant wait.
thanks for all the comments, till next week.
Alex
[size=14]some pics from Sunday[/size]
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[size=14]Me and my friend Adam building the center beam.[/size]
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[size=14]Uncle Dave making shure we're level while staying bug free[/size]
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[size=14]Almost done..[/size]
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[size=14]Last peice[/size]
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[size=14]Done!!![/size]
And on your way up!
Hey guys...this is looking very good. Can't believe how far you've gotten since we went up there to check it out. Your hard work is paying off. Pics are great. Can't wait to see some more pics. .........Skipp
it was a beautiful weekend in Weare, best part no black flies :)
saturday morning im helping uncle Dave load 30 10ft 2x6 PT boards in his truck, once every thing is loaded we hop in his truck and we were on our way. when we reach the busy intersection of the small town we loose all our wood :( . traffic stops as we again load the wood, once loaded and were on our way. We joke about the wood and put blame on each other. when we get to our drive way of our cabin when again we loose the wood >:( . We told ourselves that we are going to use all the wood, becouse were not loading it in the truck again.
After that hassel we throw up the floor joices in a few hours, it was looking good.
sunday we go to home depot to get our plywood and go to the land throw on the plywood and in a couple hours we had a 20x24 deck, which was just in time for a Memorial Day deck party.
Here are som pics from this weekend
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[size=14]just finished[/size] :)
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[size=14]Uncle Dave hammering away [/size]
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[size=14]the sub floor is complete[/size]
Looking good. Thanks for the pix.
One doesn't want to spend too much tying down a load time when it could be used better for re-loading, Alex.
An old trucker motto. :-/
Nice to see the photo of the Bigfoot - we have talked about them several times - don't recall seeing them used.
lookin good bro,whens the house warming? hi uncle dave hows the fam?
bs13 (thats big sexy not bull sh*t)lol ;D
thanks Dave,
you Kim and Nate will be one of the first to be invited. hopefully we'll be completly done next spring.
got one wall up this past weekend. Rained the whole time. Pictures to come soon . Heather my wife started moving the rocks and picking up 100 years of sticks on the ground.
Dave
A pic of what we did last weekend in the rain
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Working in the rain is always a pain ---
The rain in Spain stays mainly on the ...... nevermind. :-/
Good job, guys.
beautiful day on sunday, nice and cool from the week of rain.
we put up 2 more walls wich makes 3 walls total, we framed up the back door and 3 windows. were getting excited its looking like a cabin, (its no longer a deck) ;). Uncle Daves wife Heather was there, cleaning up the area, and burning brush.
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[size=14]Heather cleaning up and burning brush. Heather didnt want her picture taken, "she said she was dressed like a bum" so i made sure i put put one online. [/size]
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[size=14]Dave framing the bathroom window.[/size]
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[size=14]Done for the day!!! :)[/size]
Another good day's work. You putting in 9 foot ceilings on the main?
8 foot ceiling on the main floor, trying to get as much room in the lofts as possible.
The framing looks great! You guys are getting it together quick.
I understand Dave's end of the day look in the picture!
Work all day then have to pick up tools.... Uggg!
What are your daytime temps?
Here in Texas it is around 95 degrees and a million% humidity.
Foundation - Wood Pier question:
Did you notch the Piers? I was studying your great pictures and didn't see how you anchored your beams to the piers....I may have missed it. Thanks!
temp have run from 50 to 90 .
humidity the same up high and low
fun fun fun
Dave
yes we did notch the Piers and then put 3 bolts . two oneway and one the other way. . so far so good
Dave
Hey Dave and Alex looking good can't wait to see it in person. Dad/Pepere would be proud of you guys. :)
Wow --- great family participation via the internet.
Sunday was a scorcher!!! low 90's and humid. i showed up at the land with pants a short sleeve shirt, after an hour ( with help from a razor blade ) i was in shorts and a cut off.
Any ways we framed the last wall and put up plywood on a wall, we planed on 2 walls but ran out of nails. we didnt complain the day was long enough and we couldnt wait to jump in the pool at daves house.
ill have some pics up hopefully tomarrow
Al's working crazy hours this week so i will do my best to up date you. We got up the last wall sunday and we cover one wall with plywood.
Heather and my boys did more clearing and burning . They are really making the grounds look great
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[size=14]Alex walking by the begining of the last wall[/size]
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[size=14]My son Eric and I working on the last wall [/size]
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[size=14]Alex holding up wall while Eric watches[/size]
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[size=14]Me convincing my kids im not scared of heights[/size]
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[size=14]wall is done and 1 wall has plywood[/size]
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[size=14]an outside shot of our awesome plywood job[/size]
Heather and the kids
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[size=14]A picture of the fire on a 90* day [/size]
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[size=14]My littlest Eric and my little photographer Dave jr [/size]
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[size=14]My wife working hard and Eric taking a break[/size]
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[size=14]Eric chilling by the fire[/size]
Projects looking great. I didn't realize that your woods there look quite a bit like the woods on the West coast in some areas.
Sunday was a perfect day for building. Nice temputure/humidity
We put up plywood on the last 3 walls wich was a lot of work seeing that the walls were up and framed and we were on ladders lugging plywood over our heads. After 2 walls we were about to quitfor the day, when my 2 cousins, Dan and Jay showed up to help with the last wall, wich went up in no time.
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[size=14]Me building our stairs[/size]
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[size=14]Wall #2 is done [/size]
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[size=14]Reinforcements are here :)[/size]
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[size=14]My cousin Dan doesnt need a latter [/size]
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[size=14]Done for the day :)[/size]
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our fire
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Heathers fire
Dave
Looks Great!!! I had two questions for you. What plans are you using and did you use 2x4 walls or 2x6 walls? Thanks. Looking forward to more pictures.
Plans are something we came up with and we using 2X6 X10 foot for walls.
thanks
Dave
Thanks If you don't mind me asking why did you decide to use 10 foot walls instead of 8? Also is the second floor going to be one big sleeping loft?
2 lofts one on each end. 10 foot walls to give us more room in the lofts. The loft floors will be about 2 feet down from the top of the walls.
Dave
I guess I will have to watch the pictures. I got kind of lost there. Will your stairs be in the center of the cabin? Are yo laying the second floor joists right on the top plate of the exterior walls. I am adding on to my cabin and would like to build something similiar. Hope you don't mind all the questions.
no the second floor will not be on the top plate . it will be about 2 feet down the wall. you got pic's of your place we can see. new or old
Dave
Ya. Do you know how to post them? When do you plan on starting the second floor? Pete
what do u mean by post them??? pic's???
i dont think we are working this week end but will be the next.
Dave
Looks great guys... I hope you didn't get nailed with rain the way we did here in upstate ny. :-/
keep up good work...
well the road in to the camp was like driving in a river so.... no not to bad lol
Dave
I have never added a picture before and I was wondering how you do it.
go to www.photbucket.com (set up an account)(it's free) add pic's there. when you do under the pic there will be 3 diff adresses. we use the bottom one which is the img link. high light copy and paste to your posting mess around with it. it the pic comes out to big just hit resize 1 time. dont change the percentage. after you make it small you cant make it bigger again inless you down load it from your comp again. good luck
Dave
Ok Thanks I'll give it a try.
we took this weekend off so no picture or any other updates :'(
I am starting a new post about cabin and log home furniture.
please post what you have make or got that is really cool or different.
thanks
Dave
Well we had a short weedend for working at the camp. Alex and I had to work our jobs til 12:30 on Saturday so we did not even get working til 3:30 . Sunday Alex had to work and i took a day with the wife.
Here are a couple of pic's
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Had no kids this week so after work a few day off to the camp to get some stuff done we went.
One loft done and got the wrap on. Taking the week end off to spend with the kids. It is going to be high
90's this weekend.
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More to come next week
Dave
Looks good Dave :)
Those joist look to be 2" thick , locally milled? White Pine ?
I see you had to use a different type of hanger than a normal off the shelf kind. Those ones you used will look good / heavy / cool once your in the dry and you either paint them of even just leave them as they are . Better than a Simpson hanger with 15 teco nail heads sticking out ::)
Some of your plwood looks to be salvage , the sheet by the door are discolored / stained. Have you found a bone yard to save $$ or where they left overs you found a place for ?
You should bring the kids to the camp and puttum to work ;D Maybe they're to lil . Anyway G/L , PEG
BTW I never seen Typar wrap with a building suppliers name on it , wonder what that cost the supply company :o Typar MTL pretty proud of there name , bet it was a spendy deal they made :o
QuoteHhmm.. I've only every seen the Typar with the suppliers name on it.
Huummm ya wanta bet on who's been lookin at / usein Typar longer ;D
Maybe back east lumber suppliers spend more on advertiving :-/ :-/
Almost , in fact I'd say , all building wrap I've seen here in the PNW that has suppliers names on it is "off brand"( IE not Typar or Tyvek. )
That the only reason I commented on it .
You guys have been busy can't believe how fast it's moving along. Looks great anxious to see it.
the wood was cut at a local sawmill, 2x8 and 6x8 dont know what kind of wood it is but there quick, cheap, and good quality.
the hangers are home made cut from angle iron and and daves kids painted them black
the house wrap we bought was then cheapest place we could find. 2 of the ply wood for the walls we bought at home depot on sale for like 8 dollars, and we think it was water damaged.
Good day at the camp. Got the second loft up . Had a little help today.
thanks guys
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[size=14]My brother Paul (Alex's dad) and his friend skipp cutting wood to length and drilling holes for the hangers.[/size]
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[size=14]Me and Alex putting up some floor joists.[/size]
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[size=14]Half way there![/size]
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[size=14]Alex not to fond of heights :)[/size]
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[size=14]All done :)[/size]
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[size=14]a different view[/size]
Good progress on the cabin. Nice wood cut on a circular saw it looks like. :)
Could you give us a rough board foot price on the boards? Just curious.
2x8x10 which where more like 2x8x12 where 7.65 each
Dave
Not bad, thanks, Dave. I really like the rough sawn look and making my own boards. A framer friend on a job wanted to buy a band saw like mine and get rough looking boards. I told him to bend a couple teeth with a Crescent wrench - otherwise the band sawmills make a pretty smooth board.
Well another week/weekend has gone by and a little more is done. Alex and jay where trying to put a tarp over the cabin when the rain started . Man did it rain.
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We ended up leaving it rained so hard.
They did get both loft floors down . they look great.
Today we started on the roof but did not get as far as we wanted.
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off til next saturday
Dave
Cool, Dave--- that rain filled tarp looks a bit like me in my blue t-shirt after an extra large lunch. :-/
Heh, the blue bulges...we remember that well from this spring. Looking good, wish your cooler weather made it down to us this weekend...
What a awsum day we had yesterday. Got all the raffers up . Great thanks to Jay for spending his Saturday helping out.
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Great progress!
I had the exact same thing happen to me with the rain and the tarps.
Wal Mart sells a great mid sized wet vac that will let you attach a water hose to the exit port.
One thing I learned about the large water bulges in the tarp.... Never use the end of a two by six to push it up and try to get it to drain. 30 gallons of water at one time over your entire body will give your wife and kids something to bring up at family gatherings for years.
The cabin looks great! Thanks for the photos and up-dates ....
QuoteGreat progress!
One thing I learned about the large water bulges in the tarp.... Never use the end of a two by six to push it up and try to get it to drain. 30 gallons of water at one time over your entire body will give your wife and kids something to bring up at family gatherings for years.
Having just returned from a family reunion, Jimmy I fully realize the gravity of this statement. A new family member kept coming over to me every hour or so and telling me the others were telling more stories on me. I never even realized that I ever did that much to talk about.
Did anybody get any pictures of the water bulge removal, Jimmy? :)
i have been in nj on busness but uncle dave has been working on second floor, wall framing and roof overhang
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How nice! We need more uncles like Uncle Dave around! Lots of good progress... :)
We had a pretty good weekend in the HEAVY rain .
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Looks like you got a whole lot done!
It goes so much faster when you know more or less what you are doing!
You guys have really been working! Looks really good :)
I think this picture sums up the way I feel at the end of the house building day..
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We had a good day with no trouble at all. Weather was awsum.
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The place is looking great, Dave.
Ya can almost smell the bacon frying and see the deer hanging off the meat pole 8-)
Nice warm fire and a dry place to sleep/ nap between the morning hunt and the evening tree stand :)
Hurry up will ya , it'll be deer season soon ;)
Lookin good BTW I hope you guys hunt, or I may have offended someones delicate sensabilities :-[ :-/
Oh PEG --- How could you -- those nice big brown eyes, the beautiful graceful gait as they walk ever so gently through...
the middle of my garden munching the tops off of everything my wife and I worked so hard to raise --- gone in a second..
I think it's only fair that we eat a few of them.
I love deer.... fried. :) Anybody for eating a giant rodent?
They're not rodents, Glenn!
rodents are what are eating the soap I use for a shower--little teeth marks every day!
(but I understand that the eastern Native Americans thought that getting a deer was the equivalent of going through the drive-in lane at a local fast food joint. If it wasn't easy there was something wrong.)
Look like giant rodents to me -- and I like them about as much. First year wasn't so bad -- we did the Japanese tourist thing -lots of pictures of the cute little deer--- but after they started eating everything that didn't have a 7 foot fence around it we grew a bit of a dislike for them. It's still nice to see them down the hill at the neighbors place. :-/
another good day. weather was awsum and we got done what we set out.
Pic's of rear of cabin
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side with windows framed
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Nice going! It's what I hope to do - build as I get the money. I like the wood in the bottom picture. Pardon my ignorance, but is that sheathing or siding?
Keep the pics coming and happy building!
Looks like real 1x12's to me. :)
Have more questions - but feel too dumb to ask! ;D
I'll be glad when I get those books listed on Johns recommended list!
----There are no stupid questions -only stupid answers ----
As a kid I always asked tons of questions - I remember being discouraged from asking at times but how else are we supposed to learn --- as you know --- only men are expected to be mind readers. :-/
Dmlsr - great job - looking really nice.
And BTW, Glenn, Sweetie, the reason men are expected to be mind readers is that they don't like women asking or telling them what to do :-* ;) ::)
Why do I always feel she is trying to minimize my manliness by calling me pet names on a public forum. Please give me back my hair, Delilah. :-/
Shoot, I thought all men liked to be called by pet names........no wonder I've had problems in that area! :o
Okay, since you can't read my mind after all....so you can use 1x12's for siding? Can you in cold regions? Are they interconnected in some way? How do you prevent water from getting behind them? Or them warping? Could you lay 1x6's horizontally? I guess that would be a lot of work, wouldn't it?
The idea is to get them to dry after they get wet without pooling water behind them. Battens over the cracks and 30lb felt behind them take care of most ptoblems -- for added security spacers can be used behind them to make a better drainage plane - called a screen wall.
1x6's horizontally can be used as clapboards - start at the bottom and lap each board over the lower board as you go up. There are also various milled edges that do a similar thing - making the back of one board drain over the front of the lower one - like shingles -it brings the water to the outside. 6" or more above ground is one of the keys to long life.
30 lb felt wrinkles when wet to provide the desired drainage. The new house wraps don't do this and under bad conditions mold commonly occurs even on new construction.
Clapboards ar pretty easy as are board and batten -- there are houses over a hundred or more years old all over the US using such siding with no preservatives.
Warping is not usually much problem - wet boards are usually nailed a couple nails near center at each support - battens nailed centers to allow movement of underneath boards for shrinkage and expansion.
This one is probably near 150 yrs old
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See how easy that was -after I knew what was on your mind? :)
Not much done yesterday. Hung back door and did a few little things here and there. Going up today,pic's to come.
Dave
town came by and he was very happy with the work so far.
rear door installed
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front door install
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Rained alday (HEAVY) We did what we could do on the inside but did not really plan on it. pic's to come soon
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Looking forward to seeing them, Dave. The place is coming right along,
How is the ground there? We got our first decent rain in 4 months or so and things tend to get a bit greasy with the clay I have torn up with the Bobcat tracks. :-/
some picks of the doors from the inside. locks not done yet
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Dave, you should be all set, now! Lookin good! Keep posting the pictures - we like pics :)
Al went up Sunday and got some stuff cleaned up that we have been working on. We both went up today and started work on the front.
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door lock almost done
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Dave
Looking good! :)
I have a feeling this is going to be one of those classic places that in a few years that you won't be able to tell when it was built.
Hey Dave. I like your latch -- looks like a 3 way or maybe to be a 4 way dead bolt. Did you guys build that? I really like interesting latch mechanisms and machines etc. I made my front door latch out of wood - oak limb handles - wood latch - a few steel parts to keep it all together easily.
John we are trying to keep it as rustic as we can . We are building it with as little power tools as we can .
Glenn Im making the door latch all my self. Trying to keep It as safe as we can. Have to try to keep BIGFOOT out. lol
Dave
Cool-- great design - it should do the job. :)
Sorry to go back in time but since you're close to me, do you remember how far down you went with your sauna tubes? What was the advantage to using the bigfoot?
Thanks
Do you plan on adding battens....will the siding be "Board and Batten? Could you share some costs?
Thanks
The bigfoot helps with support . You dont have to put a footing when you use them. You just pour it all at one time. Where are you building???
There will e a full bathroom inside with a composting toilet. We should be able to keep it under $15,000.00 but it adds up fast
Dave
I live just outside of Littleton but the camp is on Fish Pond in Columbia, NH all the way up near Canada.
Thanks for the info, I've enjoyed watching your progress it looks great.
QuoteShoot, I thought all men liked to be called by pet names
With "pet" being the operative word ;D
(Couldn't resist!)
Now back to our regularly scheduled program...
The cabin is great-so rustic and real
Judy
Arf, .........arf....arf :-/
QuoteThe idea is to get them to dry after they get wet without pooling water behind them.
See how easy that was -after I knew what was on your mind? :)
So that's the answer... :-?
Why do I feel like today isn't going to be all that good of a day? :-/
sorry have not posted in a littlebit.
working on the roof now. got one side done yesterday.
here are some pic's
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Nice looking roof and battens, Dave.
Did you pre-punch or drill to get your screws lined up so nicely?
pre drilled
Dave
Went up today and got the other side of the roof done. Went really good .
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How did you insulate underneath the pier and beams? What kind of heat are you planning on using?
Tks!
are you talking under the floor??? if so we have not done it yet. wood stove and propane stove
thanks
Dave
Thanks Dave,
We bought a cabin (3 season) place in PA last year that sits on pier and beams and we have
baseboard heat and a wood stove. No insulation underneath. So we will have to winterize it
and close it for the season soon. I was just wondering what you did for insulation. Thanks.
Your place looks good. A lot of heart and soul put into it. Stay warm
Dave, from the earlier pics of the loft framing it looks like you supported the end of the 4x8?? loft beam with a couple of 2x6's. Was that temporary or is that what you stayed with? Pete
temp. we are waiting til after the floor is in to put our post in
thanks you looking
Dave
Working doing trim work , dug holes for front porch. Alittle bit of everthing.
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thanks 4 looking
Dave
Thanks for the update and pictures, Dave - looks good.
Good weekend . Got the holes back filled and we cemet . Got the ruff cut up on the front of cabin
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Dave
busy day but not to much to show for it. Pic's to come .........
Dave
good weather today. did some trim work on the roof and on the front . Alex worked on the shutters.
Kids moved some stumps with the tractor .
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Wow, you have working shutters. (one of my mothers's pet peeves was shutters that were just for looks, which they all were where we lived in North Carolina)
Really lookin great. Thanks for posting the new pictures. :)
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[size=24]Our neighbor is back digging the dry well and porch footings.[/size]
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[size=24]Uncle Dave trimming the roof.[/size]
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That is a beautiful Cabin! Keep us updated, it's exactly the "something" I need to keep me motivated for my "dream cabin" someday. I love the rustic look, and the whole project.
also where did you find those brackets that secure the door (with the 2 x 4's) I've been looking for those and have no idea what they are called.
thanks
We got them at a hardware store here in NH Where u from???
Weather was awsum. We did a lot of trim work and the last of the roof work.Alot of little things that just take up time.
We also started filling in under the cabin to give it the look that it is sitting on stones. Later it will be a good spot for storage
Al looking at the corner boards i just put on
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The start of the stone work
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Dave
I'm from mobile, Alabama. If you could get the name of those things, I have NO idea what to begin to call em. But my dad had those on the front door of an old building he had a parts store in back in around 1970, and I'd love to have those on my current garage (as it has wooden doors) plus I'd like it on my cabin someday as well.
Man that is one nice place you have there. Keep up the great work and keep the pictures coming. ITs a big inspiration to me.
Yes, you've done a great job! I'm so impressed with all the young families building their own homes - something to be really proud of. I couldn't even have imagined myself doing something like that in my 20's or 30's. My dad was always building, so were my brothers... and I always admired them. And, of course, Glenn doesn't know the word "can't"... ;)
Keep those pictures coming! :)
Looking at the pictures, I'm wondering if this board siding would work without the battons? I think I read somewhere on another thread that tar paper behind the boards would be enough water protection .... Any thoughts on just barn siding for a house?
No problem without the battens, except gaps.
If put on green, I have found that a board will shrink up to 5/8 of an inch when dry. This could leave 5/8 gaps but with 30 lb felt behind it it would still probably last forever.
Many barns a hundred years old are still standing - no battens, gaps and all.
I was wondering how much you spent so far?
Al got more batten up this pass weekend.
I did the some of the stone work for the woodstove.
The stones are from the site.
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thanks Dave
Looks great, Dave. :)
Doing the wiring 110 and 12v
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Dave
Nice. How are you going to generate your power?
generator, battery and solar down the road
Dave
Looks really cozy - are you going to get to spend Christmas there? Great job! I'm going to try & put slate in the patio area outside the bedroom & great room one of these days (haven't done much of that except help put it in around our hottub in the valley & on a couple walkways. I like your rock work.
we where only there for a few hours today but got some stuff done.
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Dave
Your cabin is an inspiration to me! The images are excellent....please keep taking them. Do you have a floor plan that you could post? Thanks in advance.
Happy Holidays!
You guys are doing great! Love the toilet. Did you buy new or used and what brand?
Thanks :D
We got the toilet for free off of craigslist. it is a Humus. Have not used it yet but tested fine. We Dont have a set floor plan. We have ideas and ajust as we go.
Should have more pic's up tomorrow
Thanks 4 looking
Dave
Got the wood stove hooked up yesterday.
did a little more on the wall for the bath room.
We got our first real snow of the year
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Dave
I like it! Very well done. And I like the idea of closing up the bottom with native stone. That can be one of those liesure time activities when the basic needs are met and the sun is shining once again. Good job!
It might even make your insurance company happy.
It looks so nice.
What a great picture with the lights and the snow! It looks awesome. Keep us posted with how the inside develops. :)
I may have missed it, but what is the type wood of the board & batton? Is one type better suited for it than another?
When we talked to the sawmill He said we would have no trouble getting many years out of pine .
We will treat it after it dries out some more.
Thanks for looking
Dave
Al and i got the tile in the bath room and some more r-19 in
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Dave
You guys are really doing a great job on your cabin. It looks professionally done.
Is someone going to live in it, or is it going to be a vacation cabin?
Kathleen
just a vacation hunting / fishing home
thanks
Dave
Dave,
Is there anything that you'd do differently? Any re-thinks? Your project is a real inspiration and HUGE motivation for me. Thanks for sharing with us!
About the only thing would be to go with 12 foot wall and not 10's
It would have gave us more room upstairs
Thanks
Dave
Dave
The place looks great!!
You mentioned 12 foot walls. I did this on mine. Just thought others might want to look at it for a comparison. I was very unsure of what to do with mine. Not sure if it would look funny or not! Took a chance (because I had no ther photo reference).
http://ourlittlecabin.blogspot.com/
Your cabin is so cute. I really like the shutters and wondering if they are made from 1X6's.
Please send me some snow! We are snowless here. :)
Quote
Please send me some snow! We are snowless here. :)
You can have all the snow you want from here. Got 13" locally and 24" up in my mtns. Most snow in one day ever, and second most snow ever in two days. Ever being ever since 1931.
It's the first December in over 30 years that we haven't had snow! So I'll take whatever you can send my way. We always have snow and cold in January. We have neither! ;) ;)
the snow is gone and tomarrow is going to be in the low 60's
im ok with it makes working and getting to the cabin eaiser just wish it cools down soon so i can icefish
i think the shutters at 1x5 but im not sure. What ever it was to made it work out and look good.
Thanks for looking
Dave
What a weekend. Weather was awsum
We got the walkway and stairs in on Sunday and Monday we worked on the kitchen cabinets
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Dave
How is the main floor being divided? is there bedroom on the main floor?
Thanks Dave!
The main floor has the kitchen, bathroom , dinning room and living room. The couch is a sleeper.
One loft will have two beds and the other will have a bed and a set of bunks
Thanks for looking
Dave
Are you going to insulate the main floor joists?
under the camp it self ,Yes but not til next summer
thanks for looking
Dave
Place is looking great - lots of progress. Did you use a steep stair, Dave?
yes pretty steep..
dave
I like the steep stair - used it in my RV garage. Got me to where I wanted to be without hitting my head. :)
Looks really good - nice work! :)
My son Eric and I went up today . We worked on installing 30 year old kitchen cabinets
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Dave
Nice fitup on the cabinets, Dave. They look great.
When would strapping be used behind Board N' Batton siding? Or any siding?
Thanks
For spacing for a rain screen wall could be one reason - or another way to get a fastening area in a wall in the center besides cutting blocking , but it would be necessary to add at top and bottom if you did the middle to keep things level. Board and batten over felt drains well on it's own but reverse board and batten would drain better.
I worked in the kitchen and Al worked in the bath room this weekend . Will post pic's later .
Thanks
Dave
here are a couple of pic's of the bathroom
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Dave
I see you got some blue stain Pine. It is caused by a fungal growth from beetle attack (if I remember right) and doesn't really do any damage to the wood. I think it really adds to the nice look of the wood - nice contrast. I have it here also and like to use it on things I build. Looks great, Dave. Thanks for the update.
You got things moving along and looking great, guys! Good job. I love the pine that Glenn referred to as blue stain. Back home in Canada it was called silver pine, IIRC. I think it's the same thing, just regional nomenclature differences. The savvy lumber yards culled it from the incoming shipments and charged more for it. >:( I plan of using some for my cabin interior walls and kitchen cabinetry.
Only worked a few hours on Sunday. Got somemore of the bathroom done.
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Dave
Looks great, Dave.
Hey Dave, I do love what you're doing. Looks great! :)
Could you expand a little on your dry well?
(I've started a topic re grey water dispersal.... http://www.countryplans.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1170537045)
Dave,
Can you share some details about your wood stove?
Thanks
It all looks just great!
Where did you find the cabinets? They look like they're solid.
The cabinets are 30 year old pine and i got them off of www.craigslist. They where about a mile from my house and cost me $75.00.
The wood stove. What do you want to know. It is a fireplace insert I got from a friend. Al and I cut off all the outter sheild and welded legs on it. It is a Timberland stove. We have about $30.00 dollars into it and it is working just fine.
The dry well is something i dont know much about. I looked up some stuff on the net and looked at what i had to work with for free and spent about $25.00 dollars and you see from the pic's what we ended up with.
Thanks for looking.
Dave
Place looks great Dave! The more that I looked at your kitchen, the more I liked the sink. Where did you find one like that? Is it called something different?
Thanks!
I got it on Ebay. It was in maine . I paid 60.00 for it . U can find them out there but they can run up to like $300.00
Thanks for looking
Dave
Is that a tar paper strip underneath the window? What purpose did/does it serve?
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Dave, Can you post 360 degree pictures of the interrior?
Thanks
Chuck
QuoteIs that a tar paper strip underneath the window? What purpose did/does it serve?
That is a flashing strip to kind of make water stay out of the walls - John posted a proper method a while back.
Here is a PDF I found that should be correct.
Hi Chuckca ,I will take some pic's the next time im up at the camp.
Sunday we took most of the day off and did some ice fishing.
Al making a hole in the ice
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Al and David with David's first fish of the day
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Al with Eric and Eric's first fish of the day
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One of Al's nice fish
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Thanks for looking
Dave
Monday was a pretty good day for getting some stuff done.
Pic's are of the front wall in the loft.
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we cooked on the wood stove
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Thanks for looking
Dave
does not get much better than fresh fish cooked on the woodstove...that is when you know it is a camp
the boards look awesome on the end wall upstairs also...
That is really great Dave. Makes me think I'd like to go fishing again some day. Never done Ice fishing though. I'm more of a stream or lake trout fisherman. I get to following a stream and don't know when to stop sometimes -- because when I decide to stop - then it is a long way back to the truck, but fun.
glenn
you mean that they have water and streams out where you live? :P
Dave and Al
You know what's so great about your topic - besides the fabulous cabin? Its that you are doing this as a family and having great times together. I congratulate you!
Dave,
It looks like you used Faced insulation. If you did then why are you putting what looks like roofing felt
on top of that?
Kevin
QuoteDave,
It looks like you used Faced insulation. If you did then why are you putting what looks like roofing felt
on top of that?
Kevin
Kevin
The mill where we get our wood did not have enuff seasoned wood for us to do the walls. So we are putting tar paper behind so when the wood drys you will only see the black tar paper.
thanks for looking
Dave
QuoteDave and Al
You know what's so great about your topic - besides the fabulous cabin? Its that you are doing this as a family and having great times together. I congratulate you!
THANK YOU
DAVE
thanks Dave. thats a good idea.
Quoteglenn
you mean that they have water and streams out where you live? :P
Peter, We have the tallest mountains in the US mainland complete with High Sierra lakes and streams. We have to flush so the east coast will have water. ::)
flushing so everyone else has water....That is pretty funny...
I just dont see you guys having much water....They are raping what little water there is for agri use...wells are 500 + deep minimum....Lakes are drying up salinity is going beserk.....
And yet the population is out of control....I know there is a lot of water in the Colorado...But they need three or four more of them flowing through the desert...
No wonder all the illegal mexicans come to america...The USA rapes the Rio Grande and the Colorado so badly that they are merely streams saturated with silt and pollution by the time they cross into Mexico.....The Illegals must be coming over for the water
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
i love your camp! way better than the one my dad dragged me to during hunting season while i was growing up. we had to walk all the way out back to the outhouse!
Well nothing got done this past weekend. I had to walk in .To much snow 4 my truck :'(
thanks 4 looking
Dave
How much snow did you have? Pete
About 20 inch's
Dave
That's a good amount.
I tried driving over a pile about that deep one time -- high centered the truck on frozen icy snow - used the winch to pull the truck sideways toward a tree - broke the cable first time-- retied it. Pulled the tire off the rim the second time. No spare - -night time coming and 20 miles from the nearest town. It was a real bummer. :(
We got in with our trucks so we could get something done . Al got the back wall done. I cased a few windows.
On Monday Al worked on the bathroom ceiling and lights . I worked in the dinning room.
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Thanks 4 looking
Dave
Looking very nice, Dave. I wish I was working on mine instead of waiting for the snow to melt :)
Looks great, Dave. Thanks for the new pix. :)
Nice looking detail for the ceiling lights. That pine looks great and the way you pop out the bottom of the joists is handsome. In a few months all those boards will oxidize and blend in quite nicely.
Got some nice weather this past weekend. We got some inside work done . Forgot camera will have to wait til; later in the week for pic's
thanks for looking
Dave
Well we got more snow. My truck does not do well in the snow so we took Al's Ford in. We got in with out to much trouble.
Did some trim work on the windows.
Al worked doing Insulation.
Called it a early day incase we got stuck on the way out.
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thanks for looking
Dave
Looking good! You'll be ready for summer camping & all the comforts of home :)
Dave,
I see that you have the electric hooked up inside. Did you bother to ground your system, or are you just using a reverse plug from the generater? By the way cabin looking good. My place in Northern Vermont is under 35 inches of snow so I can't even try to get back there. Hopefully by the end of April if the Mud Season isn't to bad.
Kevin
QuoteHopefully by the end of April if the Mud Season isn't to bad.
Its 60 degress here in Western Mass today with a foot and a half of snow pack on the ground and a big rainstorm predicted for tonight. I think mud season is gonna be here real quick.
im sure the road in will be a joy this weekend
Dave
The last few weeks it has been hard driving in to work. Then when we get there we have been doing little things that dont show much but have to be done.
This week we worked on the stove pipe and ceiling .
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Thanks 4 looking
Dave
We got one side of the ceiling done this weekend. Weathers been bad here
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Looking good, Dave -- the weather has got to give you a break one of these days. :)
QuoteThis cabin is being built in memory of my father Robert and my granfather Henry.
Can you share a few thoughts with us about your motivation Dave? If not - no problem. Looks like fond memories to me. :)
Well as the story goes. My granfather Henry owned the land for many years. He had a small camp on the upper piece of land . They had a well for water. Behind the camp they had a garden. Henry sold cord wood. He had men from town that would live at the cabin all week cutting wood and would come back to town on friday to get paid. The workers would go out on the town and have a good time. When they had no more money they would come back and would want to go back to work. Some would show up as early as Saturday and the rest by Monday morning.
The land was then handed down to my dad Robert. He would have us go up and cut wood to heat our home and my brothers home. We had many interesting time up at the land.
Know the land has been handed down again and hope to keep it going on and on. Both Henry and Robert where very hard working men that made it possible for all of this to happen
Pictures are of old camp site and well
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It held water with a few small leaks. I think with a little work it should be ok
How long did you leave water in it? It may swell and seal IF you keep it filled , the problem at the cabin site may be getting / having enought water to keep it filled while it swells up.
If you can keep it wet it should slowly swell and stop leaking.
Not long. I think it will seal up for the most part
Sunday and monday Alex and I polyurethaned the hole upstairs 2 coats. This weekend we will be doing the floors up stairs.
We also hung the front screen door i made.
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We did the Sunday and Monday thing in our little corner of NH as well. Everything is looking great, I'm envious. We got 2 walkways built as well as part of a platform that we will use for tents while trying to decide which cabin to build. I hope you had the same weather yesterday that we had.
Peter
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Nice work guys - good progress. :)
Thanks for posting.
We had a good weekend. We got 2 coats on the loft floors , put up our 12v fan did more on the stone work outside and cut some fire wood.
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Hey Son and Little Brother........Just wanted to say the stone work is looking great. ::)
It's all looking great! :)
Great dry stack rock. :)
We had a nice few days at the cabin. Moved in 2 of our beds .
I installed an RV hot water heater and we did a lot of cleaning.
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Both beds hand made . Mine (Dave)is the log one . The wood used came from the lot .
Al's bed is fit for a king.
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Nice beds! 8-) Looks like you are all set :)
Another good day . We in stalled the 6x8 post that will hold up the lofts.
Al did the floor in the kitchen and I worked on the field stone behind the wood stove.
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Here are some pic's of the quilts that my mom and sister made for us to use at the cabin.
Thank you mom and sister Pauline, they came out awsum.
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Nice Quilts.....
They will look great on those custom made beds.
What a great addition to your cabin. Sounds like your whole family will have a part
in the cabin project.
Place is looking great, Dave, and the quilts will really add a nice touch. :)
Wow, nice quilts, lots of work & love must have gone into those! :) Will really add a nice touch to the cabin...
This cabin has such heart! You should be very proud.
Judy
I've been away for awhile and am just catchin up....you folks did a wonderful job. The cabin is terriffic.
We we took off last weekend and went and played paintball. Al cut his knee and and was not about to bend his leg. So he cut and i drilled and nailed the floor down.
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Well we moved in a few things this weekend but we still have a lot of work a head of us. We got a lot of the trim up and i got the mantel and supports up.
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Nice mantle Dave. Everything looks great.
What a comfy looking cabin - looks like you guys are just about ready to go - if you are like us, you'd already be living in it! :) Wonderful 8-)
This is one fantastic job! I've enjoyed following it from start to now.....let's see some morepictures of the outside noe that it's just about done.
We had great weather this weekend so we ended up building the front deck.
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I always look forward to checking out your progress. Thanks for posting.
Looks great. I wish I was as far along on mine as you are on yours. Great Job!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks great, Dave. :)
I've followed from the start with great interest. Thanks for keeping us posted....AND...thanks for all the pictures.
Well we got alot done Sunday and Monday .I got my stone work done , We built our front steps and we put in the pipe for our stove heater
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Looks great!
I can't wait for the next set of pics!
Get day to work . Weather was awsum. Did a lot of little things that just took up most of my day.
Al came up after work and cut some firewood .
No pic's to post today sorry
There are always tons of small details.
We i have not been posting because we have been just doing little things here and there. I did take a few pic's of some of the front we got done this past weekend.
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Got any big get togethers planned there yet, Dave? Looks near ready. :)
Looks great!
This has to be one of my favorites and I love the rustic look it conveys.
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Hey Dave, you successfully made the jump to the new forum. Glad you are here.:)
I know this was a while back in the building process for you, but could you talk a little more about the construction of your loft? I read the discussion on that topic in another one of the forums, but it looks like you did something different - didn't use a router on your studs, just put a beam right across them? How did you secure the beam to which the loft rafters are attached?
which one? The sides or the center??
The sides. It looks like you fixed a long board, maybe a 2x6 to the wall studs with nails (screws?) and ran something beneath that board for support. Then it looks like you affixed the loft rafters (joists? I'm fuzzy on the names still) to the board with some sort of L bracket?
I ask because it seems like a good way to set the loft lower than the top plate of the wall frame - and thus increase headroom - without cutting a notch in the wall studs. Easier to do, which is good for a novice like me, and postpones the decision of where to put the loft until after the walls are up.
Ok i know what your talking about now. Pic's are back on page 3.
We used timberlok screws. Two at each stud. They are not cheap but work awsum.
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Well we have not been work much because we have been out hunting.
Did a little here and there.
Built a little enclosure for our propane tanks.
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And now we have snow so we will move back in and work on the bathroom.
Hi Dave,
Just came accross this site and I am planning to build a cabin also in NH (Hancock).
I have a question on how you are doing the water/greywater/septic. How did you go about getting approval from the state for the greywater system you put in? Are you going to have running water... ?
Any advice/info is appreciated. Looks like a great cabin... something very similar to what I have in mind.
Chris
Water will be pumped from the brook and stored in a water tower we are building. This will give us our water pressure into the camp. The ends of the tank for the water tower where the ends off a old wire spool about 4feet across. The sides are wood from a pallet we took apart to keep cost down. The bands are just thin flat stock that i welded ends on to be able to tighten down
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We have a composting toilet , they did not grant us a septic system.
We're thinking about using a composting toilet, at least until we have the time/money to put in something more. Could you give me an idea what that's like? I can't smell ANYTHING, but my wife has a sensitive nose and is a little finicky. A friend swears up and down that they're no different than a regular john, but I have reservations still.
-Jack
We have no smell at all with ours. The draw back is you have to empty it . Not that big a deal . just something i dont enjoy doing
I'm wondering why the septic wasn't approved. Too close to a lake or creek? Ground won't perk? ?? I'm not too keen on letting the government say no without having a good reason.
They did not want us to live there full time. Im sure down the road they will let it in . We where lucky to get our building permit at all.
I lived in a house with a composting toilet and there was no smell at all. Just takes a little getting used to. You could also go with an incenerating toilet but that's more $$.
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They did not want us to live there full time. Im sure down the road they will let it in . We where lucky to get our building permit at all.
I'm a little confused. How can "they" tell you where to live and for how long?? You own the land, right? Sorry, rant off. That is a great cabin you have built -really fine work. I'm sure your father and grandfather would be very proud of it.
-George
well now that you have it built...I say dig a septic..A long week-end with a machine and lots of help is the ticket...Have a couple loads of sand and 1 or 2 inch clear rock on site..Design the system first have all the perforated pipe ready...Keep it on the down low as much as possible..Make it look like you are landscaping...And then just do it...
You built the cabin legally and you are in it..They cannot stop you from living in it...and if you do a good job with the septic they will eventually go away on that issue also...They will be plenty pissed I imagine...Or they might not even notice....Unless you have a neighbor with a camera who likes to complain?
If you are left alone for a few days to get er done...I cannot imagine anyone even bothering you about it....
What a beautiful cabin!! I can only imagine the satisfaction of building my own cabin with my own two hands - a dream that I intend to persue this spring in Alaska. This is an inspiration.
thank you very much and good luck
May I ask what you have invested in dollars and hours?
Also, do you have a picture of your floorplan?
I like the two lofts with a bridge, and overall a beautiful job! Great work.
im not sure where we are at on the cost right now. we hope to end up under 25,000.00. As far as hours.
Most of the work was done by only 2 of us, a few hours on Sunday and a few on Monday. No floor plan. we went of the seat of our pants.
Sorry I am not much help
I got just one word to say. Totally Awesome.
That's technicaly 2 words. ;)
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I got just one word to say. Totally Awesome.
...and welcome to the forum.
thank you
any updates????
no , we got a lot of snow here and took off a little time. we had a friend go there today with his bobcat to remove some snow so we could get in.
I love the look of your cabin with the 1 x12 board and batten and green metal roof. What would you do differnt if anything? I had seen in a previous post you would change the walls from 10-12 ft, anything else?
nothing really . We have been very happy with the layout. The 12 foot walls would have been nicer but even that is not really a big deal
Please, post some pics when you have a chance. Love looking at your images - they're always helpful and informative. [cool]
Thanks
Chuck
Well i had plans to work in the bathroom today but we got more snow and the road is really bad so it looks like next weekend.
We'll be looking forward to the pix from your next trip, Dave.
Hello - This is my first post. I've enjoyed watching and learning about the progress of your cabin. It looks like the size and about 80% of the layout is exactly what I have in mind for a cabin I would like to build this Spring/Summer.
I'm getting all of my ducks in a row before I take the plunge. I think it was posted earlier about what plans you used. Is there anything specific you can provide, or a resource that I can buy the plans from? This would be very helpful for necessary Permits, materials lists, etc.
I was happy to see you included your family, as I will include my wife, and 2 boys who are both under the age of 5, as well as other family members. I can't pass up cheap labor!
Thank you, Nathan
Welcome to the forum, Nathan.
Here's Johns 20 wide one story plans. http://www.jshow.com/y2k/listings/46.html
It comes in 1 1/2 and 2 story flavors also.
Nathan , the plans i used where in my head. My dad was a builder and i grow up seeing him work and helping him from time to time.
Check out the link that glen gave you. There are some wonderful plans . Im sure you will be able to find something that you like. If you have anymore ???? just ask
These plans can pretty much be modified for any floor plan you desire.
Dave's (dmlsr) cabin is one of the favorites here and well deserved also.
OK I finally did it - I ordered plan and am in the process of getting final version of floorplan complete so I can start building my own cabin. Watching this cabin being built was just what I needed to see to get motivated!
Dave, I've got a few questions:
1. Did you set your posts in the sono-tubes, or are the posts attached to the concrete with a bracket?
2. On the first page of this post, the pics showing you getting the frame laid out, it looks like you got the corner posts secured to the frame. Then did you cut the other posts to put in the other tube locations after everything was squared up? Make sense - it's difficult to describe!
3. In an earlier post about anchoring the beams to the piers, you said you notched the piers ' two one way and one the other way'. I apologize for being dense, but can you please elaborate a little more for me?
Thank you, Nathan
1. the post are just sitting on the tubes eventuly we will attach them with a bracket but were in no rush
2. the corners we just bolted through, and the middle ones we cut a 2inch notch out and then bolted and some we just sat the frame on and toenailed
i think that should help if not maby uncle dave can help (dmlsr) thanks alex
Well we had good weather this weekend to get a little something done.
We started on the roof for the front porch. I burned out my cordless drill part way and had to
get one from a friend . We lost a couple of hours there.We did not get as much as we wanted done but it
was a good weekend .
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Nice to see your progress. Thanks for posting. Very handsome work with a great rustic character.
Great example of someone woh understands building, making their own hardware that is more than sufficient and putting it to use, like the days when house building was overseen and built by the master craftsman.
I'm speaking of the days before the building inspector with a book and school learning, and full knowledge of which corporation he should direct your purchases to. Not that I have a problem with the ones who want to buy from Mr. Simpson. Just that I feel an owner builder with the necessary skills and knowledge shoud be able to save money by making his own stuff.
Actually the code would allow the making of things better than what is required, but the inspector knows then that he can require you to go to his old college buddies testing laboratory to prove it. Very few have common sense.
Well we go about 4 hours in today. The black flys are out and s*ck.
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Really looking good, Dave and family.
Lots of rain this weekend but we still got the rest of the wood on the roof and tar paper down .
Here's is a pic of Al on the roof
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The place is looking great, Dave.
Worked doing pluming today. We are using Pex ,hope to have it done next weekend. Will take pic's then
Well we had a good weekend. We got the roof on, plumbing done.
We have running hot and cold running water. NICE!!!!!!!!
I only have a couple of pic's, batterys in camera died (my son told me they where low but i did not listen)
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well got back working in the bathroom
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hope to get it done next weekend
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pretty good weekend. Alex got the all the railing done on the front porch. I got the trim done in the bathroom. Also made and install back screen door.
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You guys have done an amazing job. I love it. [cool]
The toilet paper holder.....I can't BEAR it! rofl The place looks really great you guys! Congrats!
What size built up beams did you use on top of the piers?? Also what size floor joists?? Thanks. Looks great.
Looks just like a cabin I'd like to stay in! Very nice - the porch & trim in the bathroom really are a nice finishing touch...
OK, what is a weather stick? And what does it do? ???
Thanks for sharing your project. I have really enjoyed watching your progress. Great results - an inspiration! [cool]
Al
Peteh i dont recall but i will be up there this weekend and i will check and post it here .
Sassy , when it is pointing up it is going to be nice out. When pointing down it is going to rain. Best of all it works
Thanks. I'm building a 20x30 1.5 story with a center steel beam and the built up beams will sit right on my poured concrete 10" piers. My floor joist will only be spanning 10 feet. Johns plans call for 3 2x12's with plywood for the built up beams.
peteh
the beam is 2x8 with plywood . It only spans 6 feet pier to pier. the floor joist are also 2x8's
any ???? just ask
Thanks. I just ordered all the wood to pretty much get it dried in. It is being deliverd July 15. I'll keep you posted and if I have any ?'s I'll be sure to ask. Pete
How is your composting toilet working?
Working good. no troubles. Do you have one???
Dave, did you insulate your floor? If so how and when did you do it? Is it rodent proof?
not as of yet
Thanks, any ideas on what you are going to do????
i was thinking about Foam Board Insulation. but thats down the road a little bit
Would you be placing the foam board insulation in between the joists? Any thing else? Will mice eat through it???
Just to poke my 0.02 in here... Mice can chew through pretty much anything if they think there might be something of interest on the other side. Also remember, they are rodents and rodents have to chew to keep their tooth length in check. About the only thing that will keep them out for certain is 1/4" or smaller hardware cloth or metal plate, although wood sheathing with caulked seams and holes should do the job. A periodic inspection would find any signs of attempted ingress.
I guess you could put plywood up with vents cut into it.
How about plywood or sheets of soffit material with strips of hardware cloth between panels.
what is hardware cloth???
Hardware cloth is the wire screen that is welded and galvanized - comes in 1/4" squares and 1/2" squares - other sizes.
Dave, what did you do to fire proof behind the woodstove???
Wow this all looks great keep up the great post.
Nickole :)
we put cement board screwed to the studs ,then a 1 inch air gap .We cut strips of the cement board to make up the gap. then more cement board. I hope that is clear for u
thank you nickolekidd
Ya, everything looks good. You screwed a piece of cement board to the studs then ripped down pieces to use as spacers then screwed another piece of cement board to the spacers. Sound right.....
you got it. 1 inch air gap
Thanks Dave. I'm starting the framing on my place on Monday. If I have any ?'s do you mind if I ask??? Pete
anytime
dave,you got to be proud of the work and great turn out on your cabin/camp.looks awesome,congradulations.may have miss it but what did you use exterior board/batten,and interior walls.loved the idea on angle/iron for beam ties what size?Ito am planning to build a cabin in north louisanato live in.I plan on using some of your ideas hope you don'T MIND also me asking question THANKS!!!!
Great idea with the cement board, Dave. Gap at the bottom for air flow to enhance cooling too, I assume.
deedonkes
The angle iron is 2x2x6. It was alot of work and cost a lot of $$$$ but i would do it again. The outside is 12 inch roughcut with 2 inch batten. Inside is also 12 inch but is planed smooth. Use as many ideas as you like. cant wait so see your place
Glenn
It was open at first but the stones dont really get the warm so when i completed the cement it got filled in
Thanks Dave.
Dave, How far apart did you space your loft floor joists and what size flooring in the loft did you use? It looks like 3/4 flooring. Thanks Pete
16 on center and rough cut planed both sides down to 3/4 inch
Would you recommend planing both sides. I was going to plane only the floor side.
I believe that falls into the category of personal choice. Unplaned would be more rustic and would soak up more finish. ???
Thats what I figured. Thanks
we did both sides so that the floor would be even to walk on . We did not want to be banging our toes and or triping .
Thanks. I haven't decided yet on rough cut 2x6 material or T&G 2x6. I was told by John R that I need to use the 2x6 T&G to make the floor one structual unit.
peteh2833 2 by T&G is nice but I have found one draw back. Normally during milling they will hold the V groove tighter to the planer and the surface is uniform. There is usually a little difference in elevation on the flooring side. Not that much but still noticable. Same goes for the flooring side of the T&G. The V-groove fits pretty good but the flooring or flat side not as tight with gaps. You can't draw them any tighter because the T&G have already bottomed out.
Remember that any unplained surface will hold dust and dirt. Not a big issue now but later it might be important when you try to keep it clean. In addition the wear factor of rough lumber is not as good as protected finish not to mention splinters if they are in an area where you would be in contact with it.
I was going to use rough cut 2x8 with it planed on the floor side and leave the underside rough. Would it be ok to use 2x8 that isn't T&G?
The problem with anything that will be movement of the planks as they "work" with walking across and other movement. They also will not form as strong a floor.
The inevitable shrinking will also cause gaps between planks here and there. That will cause dirt to filter down below.
They will do as Don said - I have full 2x material on the bridge between the kitchen and bedroom - some wider than 12" and it does move without the TG. The gap is also a problem as we will have a root cellar below one section.
Ok thanks for the info. The 2x8 without the T&G is alot cheaper though. I don't think the amish mill can put a tongue and groove on it.
Dave, I'm to the point now that I'm ready for the metal roof. Can I ask you a couple ?'s about yours? Did you get the ridge cap with yours and does it vent? Also, how did you finish the eve ends and the gable ends? Did you use anything on the eve ends to block the ribs going up under the metal roof? It loks like you alos installed some drip edge. Thanks Pete
peteh2833 without trying to hyjack Daves thread I thought I would comment on your last post.
In regards to the eve portion of your metal roof they make a self adhesive seal that is contoured to the peaks and valleys of the metal which is put on the bottom of the sheeting near the eve to prevent unwanted guest from crawling up the channel. On page # 4 of this site it shows the eve sill.
http://www.flamco.com/roofing.pdf
The ridge cap has a flat flange on either side which is attached to the roof metal. There is approximately 1-1/2" gap (valley) portion created in which will be the ridge vent provided that you have either cut back or set your top sheet of sheeting down from the peak 1 to 1-1/2" per side. I would strongly suggest a product like "Cobra" vent on the wood sheeting covering the ridge vent area to keep insects, bats and unwanted creatures from entering the gap between the ridge vent cap and the metal roofing and taking up residency in your insulation . They use to make a thicker product similar to what is used on a shingle ridge cap but I am not sure they still do and it would be hard to get your metal to lay flat with the thicker between the metal and sheeting.
There are also end caps seals made to contour the profile of the ridge cap to use on the gable ends.
Some of which you probably already knew but I thought I would throw it out there to you anyway since it was on my mind. Owens Corning also makes a similar product but with the feedback from a roofing forum they don't recieve good reviews in comparison to GAF
http://doitbest.com/Ridge+vents-GAF+Materials+Corp.-model-2000-doitbest-sku-113468.dib
Thanks for the info. Could I just use screen cut and stapled over the ridge opening? I did leave a 1"-1 1/2" opening at the top for this reason. Another ? for you Redoverfarm, would you go with metal if the cost was the same for shingles. The panels cost the same as the shingles. Pete
peteh I did just that in mine. But I am cheap or should I say frugal. In addition since I had the hardware cloth (chink material)I used this also as I am in the woods and I could visualize flying squirrels and bats looking for a warm place. The squirrels would probably just chew their way through the screen.
It was actually a no brainer for me and the metal. Although with a log cabin it is impossible to fireproof but with the metal it does give me a little more protection from the falling embers. The majority of the fires associated with forrest fires are on the roof of cabins. I have a pretty good buffer on the ground but plan to do more as I have time. In addition it is pretty much maintenance free for 50 years or so. No curlying of shingles , wind damage, alge or moss buildup.
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would you go with metal if the cost was the same for shingles. The panels cost the same as the shingles. Pete
If the price was the same, metal would still be my choice. No way I'd use regular shingles.
I guess that goes to show how much shingles, produced with high price oil, has gone up.
Sorry Peteh i have not been on but it looks like your in good hands
Hi All,
Newcomer here. I just wanted to say this was a very inspiring thread. I bought some land(paid free and clear) and have spent past 2 months taking apart an abandoned mobile home and either hauling to dump or burning. I am a single mom with a little construction work in my background. I bought a reciprocating saw to cut up a couple boats that are also on the land. I am searching for an inexpensive used portable generator now. My condo is on the market and I am anxiously awaiting an offer. I plan on living in a camper for however long it takes to build a cabin. I do want to take part in alot of the construction, but realize people with expertise will end up doing a lot. I will continue to look thru this forum for more inspiration and wisdom as I walk towards being debt free, building a small home and being able to spend more time enjoying life instead of giving my life to a job for things which mean nothing.
Take care all,
Tracy
hi tracy,
craigs list and ebay are a good start for a generator. i hope to do the same thing you are doing this spring. you came to the right place for advice/help. a wonderful forum w/many nice, informed, well intentioned and professional people. good luck in your adventure. keep updating and learn to post pocs(mandatory ;D). where are you located?
dan
w* Tracy. Nothing to it "YEAH RIGHT" in building your own place. Seriously if you have the basic knowledge then you are halfway there. Just alot of BSATs to make it work out. But all you have to do is ask and I am sure someone has "been there and done that" as they say and will give you the advice or instructions to get you over that hump.
As far as a generator there is Craig's and Ebay but I wouldn't get a 2nd hand unless you bought it from someone that said it was too small for their needs. A new one can be obtained for just a little more w/warranty. I just bought one off Craigs that was new at about 1/3 to 1/2 off what it originally sells for.
Hope you check in often. Even if you haven't started I am sure you would have something worthwhile to share.
Not to be nosey but where do you hang your hat?
Again w*
John
Hi Dan/John,
I live in Columbia, SC. The lot is in Chapin, SC.
I have been checking out craigslists, but right now there is not much to select from.
I also frequent another site - freecycle.org
I will definately post pics when I have something to share.
Tracy
Arrrrrr, Ahoy there Tracy. Shiver me timbers.
Ye be boardin the forum at just the right time. (https://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t214/L2PSANDK/smiley_pirate.gif)
w*
One of my favorite old bands was from Spartanburg, SC.
Dave and family have done a great job on this cabin.
w* Tracy.
As for second hand generators... depends on how really good the deal is, or how new it is. I'd take a long a few of the tools you want to power, electric heaters or whatever you have so you can put it under load and check how it handles it.
WOW! I haven't read all the posts yet, but I just joined to say Great Job!
thanks Dan
We are trying.
lots of snow this year so not to much done this winter.
Going up this weekend. hope i/we can get it
Dave
w* Dan. Nice to hear from you Dave - looking forward to an update soon. :)
Hello Alex and Everyone,
Last year I bought 14 acears of wood land on Vinalhaven Is. Maine. It had septic and well in and I bought and put in place a small travel trailer. This week I got my building permit for a 20x24 cabin with a 8x24 covered front porch. I've finished clearing and am getting a plan for prices together so that when weather permits I can break ground. My idea for the cottage comes from my fathers cottage in Nova Scotia thats 16x24. He's 63 and has a great story on building it. I hope to share at some point. So my first question is on the peirs do you feel 12 is sufficient or would you think adding anouther row of 4 peirs would be a good idea to reduce the 10ft span to a 5ft, or is this over kill? I also wanted to ask about the floor joices is the 2x8in good anough or should I step up and go with a 2x10in? Those are my first questions I don't want to get overloaded right from the start.haha My first concern is getting the peirs and decking done. I just want to make sure that the cottage is here for the long haul, and done right. I'm 23 and have some construction experince, but am looking for helpful input. This is going to be my perminent residence for me and my fiancee. I am going to attach a picture of my fathers cottage, the only difference will be mine is 4ft wider with a full dormer on the back side. Thanks in advance. Look forward to your replys and info. Josh
Josh,
The main question is how many rows of beams are you planning to use? Only two, or a centre beam on the 10' line as well. That is what I did with my 20 x 24 I built in Nova Scotia. http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=88.0 (http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=88.0) With the additional centre beam you will be able to use 2 x 8 floor joists whereas two beams will need 2 x 12 floor joists or engineered I joists.
I spaced the footings for my two main beams 8' apart and used only three footings for the centre beam. I have used 24" bigfoot footings and 8" sono tubes.
Jochen
im very pleased on how our cabin turned out. 12 peirs was fine for the main cabin. We had three more for the front porch. We used 1 main beam and it worked out very well. 2x8 joists also worked well for us. Lets see some pic's of your dads and some of your site.
If you fined yourself coming to NH let me know if you want to see the place..
Hey Guys,
I'm trying to get pictures of fathers cabin and my site put on but everytime it says file to full. I plan to start a thread once I figure out the picture uploading. I do plan I think to do 12 peirs with 3 rows of 4 and 4 under porch. Just like the pictures of your cottage in NH. Doubling up with the 2x8's around outside and center beam. Then lag bolting the corners to my 6x6's or 8x8's. Thanks for the replies will try to figure out the picture uploading. Josh
There is a size limit on the photo's to post. Not real sure but usually you will have to decrease the size.
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Hey Guys,
I'm trying to get pictures of fathers cabin and my site put on but everytime it says file to full.
Sounds like you are trying to attach a picture file to a message post. You can not do that, the feature is disabled for bandwidth reasons.
To post a photo you need to host the photo on a service like photobucket.com. There are others, they don't all get along well with forum posts. Then you paste a link to the image here in your message. There is a tutorial under the Forum News ection.
Well am going to give this a try. If this works this is the corner of property that I'm building on. Pictures are from last snow when i finally got to burn. The trailer is the site for construction.
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=129988&id=1566446547&saved#/album.php?aid=129988&id=1566446547 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=129988&id=1566446547&saved#/album.php?aid=129988&id=1566446547)
Well, that works, sort of. One needs to be a facebook member though, some may not like that. :-\
Well I'll try to figure out the photos later. Best I can do for now is facebook. I'm busy with planning and pricing. Josh
IF you dont mind me asking what is the pitch on the roof?
Thanks and great cabin and thread
i think it is a 12 12
we where at the camp today to change the stairs. I wanted something alittle more user friendly. Im not getting any younger. Try to post some pic's tomorrow.
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The cabin and stairs are looking great, Dave.
I like the hatch to access the storage area under the stairs.
Looks really nice, bet you all are enjoying it!
Hi, I've read all your posts and am very impressed with your cabin.
I am building a 14 x 24 cabin and I would like to ask how you anchored the
bottom of your porch support beams? Great porch by the way.
im not sure what part you are talking about.
Sorry I didn,t make myself clear. You put a roof over the decking and your
vertical support beams are sitting on the decking. I was wondering
if you anchored them up from the bottom because I don't see any sign of
angle iron or lag screws going in from the bottom of the roof support beams to the decking. Thanks,
they are just toe nailed in place
jdbmont on my post I put a rot resistent material (rubber, plastic) about 1/4" thick and then lagged from the underside of the porch into the post. That got my post off the deck where water would stand.
well we got going on the railings upstairs this past weekend . not much done but happy with the look.
We are using 4x4 for the post 4" space on the bottom , then a 2X4 standing up. We made the black pipe out of electrical conduit pipe 3/4 inside we cut 24" long. Then drilled in the wood 1" ever 5 inches. By drilling ever 5" it gives us the 4" gap to stay in code. We added a little glue in each hole. Then on top a 2x4 standing up and then one laying down. this gave us a height of 36" ,thats code.
You can buy the pipes at homedepot . they are 30.00 abox of 15 and they are smaller around. We think ours look better . It would have cost us $210.00 to buy them done. It cost us 70.00 plus 2 cans of black paint.
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It just keeps looking nicer & nicer! :)
The railings look great, good job! [cool]
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hi the cabin is the balls .... im trying to talk the old lady into buying some land in NH and building something similar to yours... your pics are awesome all pretty straight forward except for the plumbing... Where are the kitchen/bath sinks and shower draining to? Ive looked into the compost tiolets does yours have a tank in the crawl space underneath... And also what about water supply? and do you have to drain in the winter?
Was there ever an answer as to WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT WEATHER STICK ALL ABOUT?!
Is there is a joke involved, a family tradition, or is it like dowsing water and taken serious by some?
Inquiring people, (well, there are two of us) want to know. ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_stick
the weather stick is a stick that reacts to humidity so when its dry out the stick points up = no rain and the more humidity the stick points down= chance of rain
First off I would like to say, beautiful cabin. A real motivator. Secondly I have a couple of questions. I am getting out of the military in 6 months after 6 long years and I have purchased 25 acres back home in KY on the creek. I paid 27k for the land and I only took out a 60k loan for everything. So this leaves me a little over 30k for the building of my cabin. I really like the looks of yours and I was wondering if you would mind sharing a bit of what I can come to expect on cost. It will be built by myself, my dad, and a couple friends. I just want to make sure were gonna have enough to do this, my fiancee is starting to get worried. Were not wanting anything too crazy, just a basic cabin with running water, septic tank, 110v electric, and a porch. If you could provide any info with this it would be more than appreciated. And again sweet looking place!
w* to the forum EaglesSJ.
From what I have seen, if you do the work yourselves and are not extravagant you should be fine on cost.
Dave and family did a great job on their cabin.
first off i want to say thank you for serving our country. next is the cabin cost me and dave about 20,000 thats with no electricity, well, and septic. some things we got on craigslist like stove, fridge, water heater, sink, cupboards, wood stove etc. a tip we learned was don't cheap out, if you need it then get it. dont want to have to do it again. any questions feel free to ask. alex
just built a clatter pump. Cant wait til spring to install it and see if its going to do the job we need it to do.
That would be a water ram, Dave?
yes it is
This is a great cabin,i love all the details really makes it stand out
thank you
Thanks for all your posts and updates. You have inspired me and given me ideas for my future build. Thanks again, Dave
I came across this site yesterday and I've enjoyed a few hours of reading and looking at the pictures.
I'm sure that you're drowning in compliments, so I'll point out a major flaw in your cabin. If I owned this place, I'd cry like a baby everytime I had to leave. That's the only flaw I can find, but it's a big one.
I can imagine the pride you must feel when you lay in bed at night, knowing that the roof over your head came from your own sweat and your wits.
My blood pressure goes down just looking at the tranquility of your cabin.
I'll bet anything that your dad and grandpa are smiling down on you.
Nice job!
thank you :)
I have enjoyed watching your progress with the cabin, I started mine a couple months ago and have started a website showing my progress. Thanks for all your great pics and for the ideas that you have gave me. The website is: WWW.MICHALANE.COM
I have just started being a member of this forum. I use to live in NH until about 4 years ago. I still have family up there. It just goes to show you that with support, family and friends, you can do anything. I am going to start building my own house in the up coming year. I hope to accomplish my goal of finishing it in 3 years. You guys inspire more and more people everyday. Coming from the construction field myself, I know that it will take alot of time, sweat, alittle money, and pure determination to accomplish my 24x40 2 story home in 3 years.
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I have just started being a member of this forum. I use to live in NH until about 4 years ago. I still have family up there. It just goes to show you that with support, family and friends, you can do anything. I am going to start building my own house in the up coming year. I hope to accomplish my goal of finishing it in 3 years. You guys inspire more and more people everyday. Coming from the construction field myself, I know that it will take alot of time, sweat, alittle money, and pure determination to accomplish my 24x40 2 story home in 3 years.
w* w* But I think you have things mixed up. Lot of time, Lots of sweat. LOTS OF MONEY. and Lots of determination. But what a ride. Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
Well, alittle compared to what it does cost to build around here. The average cost of a house of 1500-2000 sqft is around $400,000. We figured around $40-60k for our house. A small amount in comparision.
This cabin (well, ok....this one specifically and MANY others on the site) is what finally has me jumping off the fence as a lurker - about a year change now - and really looking forward to building our own Camp/Cabin. My sister lives not far from where I expect this place is, and each time we go to visit, I look around me, wondering if I just drove past its location.....
I hope to incorporate what I've learned by watching the construction of each of your Prides and Joys, and know I'll learn much much more before I'm finished with our Northern NH Getaway.
You're all great crafts(people) and a wealth of information.
I just had to comment here again on this project.
Dave and I managed to get together via email, and met at his camp this past weekend. He an Alex were kind enough to invite me over to see the property, systems, and camp, and share with us all the successes and challenges they had throughout. I can sum the visit up in 2 words....THANKS, and WOW.
Many of us have admired (through lurking or posting) the details and craftsmanship that went into this cabin, but all of the images and descriptions here pale in comparison to having actually had the opportunity to see it first hand, and pick the owner's brain.
Dave, Alex, you had resourceful solutions to issues I'd have never thought would crop up (water challenges, 12-V/Power challenges, toilet challenges, security - both from 2 and 4 legged visitors, challenging "neighbors"). The best part of the visit was that my wife was with me, and I can now truly say I have a partner in our dream. You both showed her exactly what she needed to see in terms of scale, comfort, and security in just an hour or so that I've been trying to show her through plans, images, and stories for the last couple of years. She's looking forward to our next visit to our site to help with clearing, setting up batter boards, stringing, etc. I truly appreciate your willingness to share your experience and sanctuary with us, and will definitely be in-touch in the future for advice - and of course to reciprocate with an invite for a visit to our site when its more than a few paint marks and fallen trees along.
~Cheers!
Thanks for the compliments I'm glad you guys liked it. I can't wait to see yours once finished. I'm glad we could help you wife visualize what your trying to build. And any questions feel free to email me or Dave.
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I don't know if anybody is still watching this post or not, but just wanted to say thanks for all the extra effort it took to keep posting pictures and updates on your build. I am just starting a 20X20 that is designed EXACTLY like this on the outside. The only difference will be identical porches on both the front and the back. It was awesome to actaully see the future and be able to show the wife just what it will look like when finished. Same siding, same porch, same roof....etc. etc.
Beautiful job, hope mine turns out anywhere near as nice.
Tim
No trouble. It was helpful to us to , to see what people would think about what we did and how we did it
Dave
Dave,
Any chance of posting a drawing of your floor plan? Would love to see it.
Tim
I send a pic of my head. No plans. What would you like to know?
Dave
How about listing each room with the dementions. I am building the exact same cabin, but on a 20X20 foot print. As you enter the front, the right 1/4 will be living area, the rear 1/4, kitchen. On the left, the front 1/4 bathroom and utility room, and the rear left a bedroom. The left half will have a loft for grand kids to stay in. I am just wondering if there are better ways or suggestions.
Thanks, Tim
It is pretty much all open. When you come in the front door the kitchen is on your right. From front wall back it is 8 feet. Across it is about the came. To make it feel like a diff. Room we put in diff flooring. To the left is the dinning room. It is about the same size. We ran the wood on the walls diff to give that the feel of a diff room. The bath room is in the back right corner. I think it 6x6. The rest is all open. The lofts are 20x8.
This is where i would do a little diff if i was to do again. I would use 2x6x12 for the walls so it would give you more head room upstairs .
Great info....thanks for getting back with me.
Tim
the good old days
I am not sure of how I have missed this thread in all my lurking and posting but I just want to say awesome work. Recently I have started my own build project and reviewing projects like this makes me not only look forward to keep going on mine but envision through someone else pictures the possibilities. I found this thread very inspirational!
Is it just me, or does anyone else have a desire to see pics of this awesome cabin completed? Man I keep hoping it gets updated...
I saw your post last fall. We loved watching it transform.. My wife and I purchased some land in Nov-Dec in upper NH. We are building a 20x24 with 1/2 loft made from Pines from our property. I cut them down and had a portable sawmill come and make appr.150 d-logs plus all my flooring - beams - rafters - and 1 by for trim and ceiling- and material for porch. I have shopped around for closed cell insulation for floor and ceiling. Found some used windows. Bought a good sized wood stove.
I was wondering what you guys shot this year from camp?
AWESOME JOB>>
ANY THING YOU DO DIFFERENT/CHANGE?
http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=12608.msg168940#msg168940
still here
Oh no, are you selling!? Stumbled across this listing.
http://nh.craigslist.org/reo/5567669852.html