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Title: 14x24 1 story in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 21, 2008, 08:06:52 PM
I had a thread about building a house in north central Arkansas. I have changed my plans a lot so I decided to start a new topic. I have a 12x16' shed I built in may, I am going to be building a 14x24' addition on to the shed. I was looking at getting a mobile home to live in but this seemed like a better idea to me, it is just going to be me and my wife living in it. We are living is a 33' travel trailer and it is getting kinda of small. I hope to have the addition built and done enough to live in by x-mass. I don't have a job so I can work on it all the time, I do have a bad knee so it may slow me down some. It only took about a week of building time to build the shed with one of my friends but probably took 4 weeks for us to complete. I don't have to have any permits to build as I live out in the county. Here are some quick floor plans and a rendering of what I plan for, the doors and windows may change, depends on what I can get deals on. I also plan to use the attic for extra storage. I will be sure to post pictures of my work when I get started which I hope is in the next week or so.

Thanks

Taylor

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/shed5.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/shed1.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: zion-diy on November 22, 2008, 08:37:12 AM
Taylor, where about in Arkansas are you? might be able to hook up and share some ideas. wife and I built here 2 1/2 years ago.
        Alex
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 22, 2008, 09:51:08 AM
I am about 6 miles out of Mountain Home.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: apaknad on November 22, 2008, 09:56:05 AM
nice location. that area is on my short list. been looking at it for about 3 yrs. can you give a general idea of property taxes?

thanx, dan
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 22, 2008, 10:05:27 AM
I am not 100% sure on the property tax. The land I have is my mom's and she pays the taxes on it, but I think she said something of it being like $100 a year for the 3 acres that I got, but I am not 100% sure on that.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: zion-diy on November 22, 2008, 10:17:29 AM
Allright, I'm about 50 mi. south. not far out of melbourne. we're near neighbors.
apaknad, I guess taxes depend on county, and of course the kind of building you have. here, our's are aprox $459 a year. thats house and 28 acres. then, you knock off $350 for homestead exemption. Now, my neighbor across the creek built a rather large and fancy house on 10 acres and his taxes were about $1200. also, if you are 62 or older, you're taxes are locked forever. And, if you're a disabled vet, (VA fully disabled) you pay no taxes, or cars tags, and probably a whole bunch more that I've forgotten. We still appreciate vets here.  
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: zion-diy on November 22, 2008, 10:25:37 AM
Taylor, you're drawing looks good. a couple of questions. have you got water and sewer there? type? well, septic etc. which way will house face? It was in the teens here this morning, and that north wind may determine window placement. Oh, and by the way, might want a small overhang over the front door so rain and such doesn,t run on you :-)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 22, 2008, 10:48:03 AM
I have a septic system and I have a 550g water tank, my dad owns the house next door so I fill my tank up with his well. The front of the house will face east, so the only north window/door is the one in the bedroom facing the deck. I believe it was about 19 degrees this morning and I live on top of a hill so the wind blows pretty good up here some time. I was planning on some roof over the front porch but couldn't figure it out on my Home Designer.

Here is a picture I took from my front door this morning, maybe he was looking for a place to hide for thanksgiving, lol.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/turkey.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 22, 2008, 11:24:16 AM
Taylor, just a thought, but if you have guests they will always have to go through your bedroom to get to the bathroom.  It would either be no sleeping in or squinty eyed guests if they have to wait.  Possibly this was already considered. 
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 22, 2008, 11:29:28 AM
I don't really have any guest, the only person that comes up is my mom. I have her a 5th wheel on the back of the land, so if I do have any over night guest they have there on trailer to stay in. The reason I put the bath back there, is I already have the washer and dyer installed in the location in the shed and my power comes in that corner too, so it just seemed the easiest to leave it that way and stick the bathroom in there with the washer and dryer.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 22, 2008, 01:55:49 PM
Here is a rough design on how I would like to add-on to my first little house to make it bigger in the future but it maybe 5-10 years from now.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/shed6.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 22, 2008, 03:54:54 PM
That looks good.  You may want to consider future plumbing hookups in regard to elevation - slope and leaving stubs for future hookups if pretty sure of your plans.  It can make the addition easier. 

Example - leave enough room to cut a pipe and add a fitting rather than butting a cleanout tight to a tee.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 22, 2008, 04:00:57 PM
That is a very good point you have there Glenn, I will defiantly take that into account when I do the plumbing.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: apaknad on November 22, 2008, 06:45:29 PM
thanx you guys,

i really like the idea of fishing in bull shoals and norfork. i am a disabled vet and will be 62 in a month. i have dear friends in little rock and it would be nice to be able to visit.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 23, 2008, 03:01:39 PM
I was looking out in my shed on how the bedroom out layout. So I came up with this idea, the little room would be the walk in closet with shed roof on it so it would not be a full height room, but it shouldn't cost to much more to build it.

Here is the floor plan

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/shed7.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: NM_Shooter on November 23, 2008, 09:34:57 PM
Consider a skylight in the BR....

Looks like a nice tight plan.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 24, 2008, 11:03:07 PM
I will keep skylight in mind. I am on a real tight budget, but can always add the skylight later on. I am going to try to get the shell done with insulation and bathroom for about $3500-4000. I only spent about $1500 building the shed in the first place. My dad works at Lowes so I get a small discount.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on November 25, 2008, 12:05:58 PM
my 2 cents (not that you need it) could the kitchen be at the other end of the living room to allow it (and the plumbing) to stay put while you expand for the larger living room/bath/bedroom in the expansion.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 25, 2008, 04:42:00 PM
That would probably be the easier thing and cheaper to do since my plumbing and electrical would be closer to my water pump and service entrance, but I really like the door out on the deck in the kitchen/dining area since I do a lot of grilling it is just easier to carry stuff back and forth.

Update on my construction: I ran my string lines and marked off where my concrete tubs are going and started digging, didn't make it to deep until I hit rock, so I have been trying to get the rocks out.
I will try to get some pictures.


Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 25, 2008, 04:52:41 PM
Pictures of today's work:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/DSCF2053.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/DSCF2054.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: zion-diy on November 26, 2008, 08:09:27 AM
I'm shocked, shocked, that you hit rocks when digging. LOL
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 26, 2008, 08:29:04 AM
Yeah it is amazing, I think I pulled more rock out of the holes than I did dirt. I got 5 out of 10 of them dug yesterday, going to finish the holes today and probably pour concrete tomorrow.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 26, 2008, 06:08:12 PM
Today's update: I got the holes finished up, I actually dug 3 holes with out hitting major rocks. I got 22 80lb bags of quickrete today, so tomorrow is all about getting the piers poured. I hope by Saturday that I can start setting up the beams and floor joists and maybe the deck done. I didn't take any pictures today, because it looks about the same as yesterday other then there is more dirt on the ground by the holes, lol.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 26, 2008, 10:56:06 PM
Good job, Taylor.  I'm much lazier than you and drag out a machine when I get to rocks.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 26, 2008, 11:03:10 PM
Come on Glenn wheres your spirit.  Need to get you more involved in farming and setting fence post with a digging iron and post hole diggers.  Makes you sleep better ;D

Taylor now you will see the progress start.  Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 26, 2008, 11:05:20 PM
Yeah I would have like to have a machine to dig with, but all I had was a post hole digger, 3' crow bar, and a trenching shovel. It was a lot cheaper then renting something for just 10 holes. I might have spent 60-70mins digging total.

Anyone know how long I need to let the concrete set up before building on?

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 26, 2008, 11:39:37 PM
7 days is the general rule, Taylor.  I think that is about 90% strength - 28 days i considered pretty well full strength but it can harden more over the years.  At least a couple days if you are gentle at the start.  Green concrete breaks easily.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: rwanders on November 26, 2008, 11:40:58 PM
24 hours should be sufficient---the concrete will actually continue to get harder for many days but, one day is good to go for building on.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: rwanders on November 26, 2008, 11:45:30 PM
Glenn's advice is probably more prudent----pounding on it would not be a good idea for a week or so. If all you are doing is drilling to set anchor bolts then a gentle hand will probably see you through.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 26, 2008, 11:49:42 PM
Quote from: Redoverfarm on November 26, 2008, 11:03:10 PM
Come on Glenn wheres your spirit.  Need to get you more involved in farming and setting fence post with a digging iron and post hole diggers.  Makes you sleep better ;D

Taylor now you will see the progress start.  Keep us posted.

John, my posthole digger and digging bar are very precious to me and I just sleep easier knowing that they are at home safe and well in my garage.  Truth be known I have done a bit of shoveling and hand filling rocks into an anchor hole or two in the last couple of weeks, but I dug them with the backhoe.

(https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/glennkangiser/rocksatcarlas.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 26, 2008, 11:51:00 PM
Alright guys, thanks for the input. I got anchor bolts that I am going to set in the piers when I pour them, I plan on leaving the cardboard tubes on them also, if it doesn't mater. I was hoping to get my beams and joists set this weekend but I might wait till middle of next week to do too much to it.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 26, 2008, 11:54:06 PM
The only reason I stay away from the first day is that a company I contracted for who was push -push -push built a building in New York putting steel framing up the first day after poured.  Granted it was a taller building but not the super heavy structural -- just pre-engineered steel.

The concrete failed and men died.  

Likely your small house will not have a problem but I have to err on the side of caution.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 26, 2008, 11:56:56 PM
I think the floor stuff would be OK in a couple days - the other thing I worry about on the floor is possibly breaking anchors away in piers.  No rush to get the cardboard off.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 27, 2008, 07:39:48 AM
Taylor leaving the cardboard on at least a couple weeks will help withthe concrete as it will retain moisure which is good for the concrete.  Green concrete is  suseptible to horizontal stress.  So with that said when you set your beams do not twist the brackets with the beams to gain alaignment.  If everything lines up downward verticle pressure by what little weight you put on in the first week will probably not affect it.

This is a good example of green concrete and it's disasterious effect.  I lived just one mile from where this occured.

http://www3.gendisasters.com/west-virginia/1968/willow-island,-wv-scaffold-collapse,-may-1978

Glenn  ;) about the tools.  I can't get along w/o my digging iron. Constant companion. It is sort of like a wife in that you can't get along with out it but it will work you to death. ;D
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 27, 2008, 01:26:48 PM
I don't know about that, John.  My wife gets upset with me if I leave her out in the garage for an extended period of time. ::)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 27, 2008, 06:35:44 PM
Put her a computer out there and she will be satisfied. ;D
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 27, 2008, 06:48:46 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, here is what I got done today.
My knee was bothering me today and I ate way to much so I didn't get as much stuff done as I wanted. I got 5 out of 10 of the piers done and all my rebar cut. I plan on finishing it up tomorrow, I am going to Lowes at 6am for their sale they are having, got a good deal on shop vac, mag lite, and bath vanity. Here is a picture of the progress, it was getting dark when I finished.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/DSCF2059.jpg)


Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 28, 2008, 02:19:59 PM
I got the piers finished up, I also made it to Lowes at 6am this morning and got my Bath vanity saved $50 on it and it has cultured marble top with built in sink, and some other stuff. I am probably going to wait till Thursday to start building, there is a chance of rain Wednesday and looks like it is going to be sunny after that and it gives my concrete time to set up.

Here is today's picture:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/DSCF2065.jpg)


Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 28, 2008, 02:59:06 PM
I have a question, I want to put something on the ground before I start building. I want something so when I am crawling around under there I won't be in the dirt. Would it be better to use some land scape fabric or some thick plastic??

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 28, 2008, 11:56:39 PM
I put plastic down on my remodel but already dried in.  If it rains the plastic would hold water.  Possibly you could put the fabric then put smaller plastic that is dry when you work.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on November 30, 2008, 04:25:18 PM
Yeah I was thinking about the plastic holding water, the ground does have some sloped under there, but I do have some 3' wide landscape fabric I might just put around the edges to block the grass from growing around there since it won't get light in the middle.

The concrete is taking it's time drying, it has been cold the last couple of days and has been snowing all day, looks like I am hopefully going to start building Thursday.

Here is a picture of the snow:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/DSCF2069.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 02, 2008, 04:08:19 PM
Day it was pretty nice outside, my concrete looked pretty much white so I figured it was time to start building. I  got my brackets bolted on and my beams set, they came out perfectly level so I was happy, I plan on gluing and nailing some wood plates where the two beams meet at on the brackets. There is a chance on rain tomorrow, but the weather looks nice for about 5-6 days after that, well mid to high 40's but no rain so I hope to have walls finished up by this weekend.

Here is a picture of what I have finished so far:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/DSCF2071.jpg)


Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 04, 2008, 06:37:37 PM
I got all my stuff for the decking, took me two trips to lowes to pick it all up. It was cold, low 40s with 10-15mph winds, so it was hard to get going on working. I got half of the framing for the deck done, I am going to finish it tomorrow and hopefully get my lumber for my walls. Here is a picture of what I got done, it was dark out so it is hard to see.

Taylor

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/DSCF2074.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 05, 2008, 02:55:47 AM
Looking good. :)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 05, 2008, 07:01:11 PM
Thanks Glenn

Here is a picture of today's progress, still didn't get as much done as I wanted. I am going to finish the deck tomorrow and it is going to be warm so I am going to put a coat of floor paint on it to help keep it from swelling when it rains in a few days. I painted the floor in the shed and I waited until I was done so I am going to try painting it before I build the walls and when I get it dried in I am going to put another coat over it all.

Thanks

Taylor

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/9FloorJoist.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 05, 2008, 09:53:58 PM

Sounds like a good plan.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 06, 2008, 05:48:30 PM
I actually finished my goal today about 2 days later then I would have like, but I mostly worked alone and it was cold and windy. I plan to get my stuff for the walls tomorrow and get them up by mid next week, depending on the weather. Now that I get the deck up it is a lot bigger than it looked when I had the string lines. I actually got a pictures today in the daylight:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/10Deck.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/11Deck.jpg)


Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 06, 2008, 11:14:40 PM
Do you think you need any kind of temporary threshold to keep water from running into the shed?
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on December 07, 2008, 12:38:16 AM
On a side note: a lot of white Jeep Cherokees popping up on the site.. eh Don?  (mine looks like MountainDon's)

Back on topic:  Great progress, and solo in the winter weather makes it all the more so.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 07, 2008, 09:21:47 AM
I do have a threshold for the shed, it is a solid PVC piece that I set there that the door seals on you can kinda of see it in the earlier pictures, I didn't have it on there in the last picture because I just painted the wood. I hope it will still help now that the floor is even out front there.

I just got that jeep a few weeks ago, but I love it. It will be great this winter when it snows.

Thanks for the compliment.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 07, 2008, 11:09:17 AM
I have a Jeep also - old and worn out but goes up the hills when the battery stays up.  Cherokee Chief 1981
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Sassy on December 07, 2008, 12:36:28 PM
Nice work, Taylor! 
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 07, 2008, 05:21:04 PM
Thanks Sassy.
I didn't do to much today, had an oil leak to fix on the jeep and the floor was still sticky feeling but all dry now. I still took a picture of my progress I made a couple of trips to lowes and now the inside my shed/house looks like this:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/13Lumber.jpg)

I got all my stuff to build the walls, or at least I hope so. You can see my threshold for my garage door in the picture there.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 07, 2008, 06:25:21 PM
I have a couple of questions maybe you all can help. Can I install my wall insulation before I put my siding up, I will have my everything in housewrap? And I just wanted to make sure that I need to block the seams on my sheathing.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 07, 2008, 08:00:27 PM
Quote from: Taylor on December 07, 2008, 06:25:21 PM
I have a couple of questions maybe you all can help. Can I install my wall insulation before I put my siding up, I will have my everything in housewrap? And I just wanted to make sure that I need to block the seams on my sheathing.

Thanks

Taylor

You want to wait until you have it dried in so to speak.  That means no possibly chance for rain to penetrate the interior. That would mean a roof, windows and doors.   In addition you will need to wire and plumb so if any of that needs to be done to the exterior walls it should be done first.  If you installed the insulation and it would get wet you could end up with a bad problem.  You just need to cut your insulation to length above and below the blocks.  You don't necessarily have to have the attic/and or loft insulated but it is usually done about the same time.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 07, 2008, 09:32:02 PM
Thanks Redoverfarm. That is what I was thinking.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 08, 2008, 06:40:56 PM
My wife and I got a lot done, almost got all the walls framed up ran out of nails for the nail gun and it is going to rain tomorrow so I am going to put the sheathing up after the rain. I took a lot more pictures today so here you all go:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/14Wall.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/16Stairs.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/18Framing.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/19Framing.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/20Framing.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/17Framing.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Jochen on December 08, 2008, 07:59:04 PM
Thanks for the pics. Looking good. [cool] But one question pops up for me. Any special reason why you haven't put the siding on before you lifted the walls in place? At least the bottom row? I found it easier that way and it helps to square the walls.

Jochen
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 08, 2008, 08:06:53 PM
Thanks Jochen. When we built the shed we put the sheathing on the walls before lifting them and they where real heavy and took a few of us to lift them. It was just me and my wife today and it was windy so it was easier to lift without the sheathing. I am going to nail or screw a board on side of the joist and just set the sheathing on to help get it up there because I will probably be doing it myself. I tried bracing the walls up pretty square and I will double check it before I put the sheathing on.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on December 08, 2008, 08:46:46 PM
With the headers over the doors and windows: I see on the french door opening you have the 2x10?s and a 2x4 under but not in the others is that based on the span?  Are you headers to be insulated in the center?

Looks good.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 08, 2008, 08:55:28 PM
Yeah the big opening is for a 6' sliding patio door, and the headers are 2x10s. I did put the 2x4s on it because the longer span and it helped make sure the header was even around the edges, don't know if it was needed or not. I didn't think it was necessary on the 3' openings. I don't have plans for the house just building it out of my head, but I did two years studying as a mechanical engineer in college so I hopes that helps me. The headers have 7/16 osb in the middle, so no insulation.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on December 08, 2008, 08:57:42 PM
Thanks for the detail.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: NM_Shooter on December 09, 2008, 09:59:36 AM
I am getting homesick looking at your pictures!  I miss northern Arkansas a lot.

-f-
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 09, 2008, 03:05:24 PM
I got the last wall framed up today between rain showers supposed to be snowing this evening and it is 63 degrees out right now. It is supposed to be cold but sunny tomorrow so I am going to get the sheathing up and it is not supposed to rain again until Sunday, so I hope to get the roof framed up. Here are some more pictures and the reason there isn't a window in the one wall, I am going to put a fence up or plant a hedge to block sound and the view from over there.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/23Framing.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/24Framing.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/25Framing.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on December 09, 2008, 09:32:40 PM
Are the two shorter walls going to be window free?
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 09, 2008, 09:37:05 PM
That is right, I going to going to have cabinets, refrigerator, and stove on one of the walls. On the other wall that faces the neighbors will be tv and I am thinking of built in book cases or something like that.

Thanks

Taylor   
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 10, 2008, 03:17:51 PM
I did a little work today but not much, it was too wet/slick and cold for me today, going to be a lot nicer tomorrow and my wife is off work so I will have a helper. Plus the nail gun is starting to kill my arm. It sleeted last night so I spent about a hour trying to scrape it off. I got 3 sheets of osb on, almost one whole wall, lol

Here is a pictures of what it looked like before I cleaned the sleet/snow:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/26Snow.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/27Snow.jpg)

After I cleaned and hung osb:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/28Wall.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/29Wall.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Jochen on December 10, 2008, 03:29:51 PM
Looking good. [cool] From where do you get the morning sun?

Jochen
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 10, 2008, 03:41:08 PM
Thanks Jochen.
The front of the house, where the door and windows are faces east, so that is the side that will get the morning sun.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 11, 2008, 06:00:07 PM
Today's progress: got most of the sheathing up, even though it was pretty windy. Going to get some lumber tomorrow to starting making some rafters going with a 7/12 roof to match the shed I am adding on too. I bought a new ladder, it one of those multi use, but I needed something taller than my little step ladder to get the rafters up.

Here are some pictures

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/30Walls.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/32Walls.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/33Walls.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/34Walls.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 11, 2008, 06:14:47 PM
Taylor making good progress.  Since you are converting the shed to a residence then I guess you will need a place to store your ladder when you are done.  Let me know ;D

On a serious note I used a set of the folding ladders that he had.  Was an older set of Heavy duty that pivoted in three places.  Was lost when he had to have them back.

I think I would offset the seams on the top piece of sheeting to gain more strength.

Are you going to double the top plate? 

Just my $.02 worth

Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 11, 2008, 06:22:49 PM
Lol, I am going to use the trailer I live in now for my storage until I build another shed, which is going to much smaller this time. I got the ladder at walmart, I think it is a cosco brand or something like that and has a lifetime warranty, it is a 17' extension, and 7.5' step ladder. I was going to get a 8' step ladder and it was $95 and this one was $109, so I got it in stead and hope it comes in handy when it is time to do siding since it can be used as scaffolding.
I have an older ladder that is kinda the same, it has a pivot in the middle and two more pivots between the middle and sides, it is handy to fold two legs down and put a board on it and it makes a good table, but I don't like using it as a ladder.

Taylor 
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 11, 2008, 10:13:06 PM
I got a question about ridge board size. I am going to 2x6 rafters and 2x8 ceiling joist, so I was wondering if it matters what size ridge board I go with I was thinking of going with 2x6 since it won't be really support anything.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 12, 2008, 12:14:53 AM
And yes I am going to double up the top plate, that is on my list with putting up sheathing. I figured I would do it after the sheathing since I had braces nailed on the top to help hold the walls square and plumb.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MountainDon on December 12, 2008, 12:57:42 AM
The usual thing with a 2x6 rafter is to use a 2x8. Actually it's not just usual, in some places it's code to use the next biggest size for the ridge board. It gives a better bearing surface against the full face of the rafter end.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MountainDon on December 12, 2008, 12:59:22 AM
On the top plates be sure to lap the joints by 4 foot at least over the upper plate. You probably know that; just a reminder.  :)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 12, 2008, 01:06:44 AM
Thanks for the heads up on the top plates, I knew I need to over lap them, but wasn't to sure by how much.

Here is an autocad drawing of why I was thinking of using 2x6 ridge board, I plan on have a ridge vent across the top and if I use a 2x6 and line the the rafter up at the bottom I would have 13/16" of the rafter sticking above the ridge board.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/roof.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MountainDon on December 12, 2008, 01:24:47 AM
Well, that looks better than what I expected... I expected the tops of the rafters lined up with the top of the ridge board.   ???  However, even if you do it the normal way (2x6 rafter, 2x8 ridge...) you can stop the sheathing a little short of the ridge line to leave space for venting. Or run it tight and cut slots with a circular saw. I ran my roof sheathing right up to the peak and cut slots on the house roof. On my cabin I didn't use a ridge vent system. My reasoning there was that the ridge runs east-west. The predominate winds are north-south or vice versa. Heavy rains are usually accompanied by high winds. A ridge vent seemed too prone to possible wind driven rain infiltration. So we decided gable ends vents were better for us.   ???

Your plan should probably work as most of the strength in the rafter ends is in the lower portion, but I do know that would cause most inspectors to have a second look. No problem if there's no inspector.  :)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MountainDon on December 12, 2008, 01:30:50 AM
Speaking of ridge vents some studies have shown that under some wind conditions standard types of ridge vents do not perform as well as expected. It is possible for a wind to blow against the side of the roof, up and right through and out the other side without any actual venting of attic air. Some ridge vent system employ a "spoiler" lip at the top of the roof surface that interrupts the wind flow. that prevents a lot of the pass over wind flow.

I can't recall where I found that info. But I could not find a local source so that influenced my choice as well.

Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 12, 2008, 01:40:21 AM
Thanks Don, I think I will go with the 2x8 since the is "norm" and I don't what to have in the back of my mind that I might have taken a short cut to save a 98 cents the difference in between the two. We don't have inspectors or permits to build in the county as long as you are outside the city limits of the towns, and I am about 2/3 miles out of the city limits of the closest town, so I lucked out. I might have to research the ridge vent some more, since I live on top of a hill and get a good amount of wind, but I do notice must of the houses on my road all have ridge vents that run the same mine will and a lot of the have be built in the last couple of years.

I would think if the wind blew right through the vent it would create a vacuum in the attic and help draw the air out, but I might be thinking wrong.  ???

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: n74tg on December 12, 2008, 09:24:05 AM
I read your post about needing a taller ladder to put up the rafters and ridge with.   If you haven't already bought one, here is a pic of one I built so I could install the top brace on my trusses when they were set.  It's made out of four 2x4x12' and cost $12 to build, pretty good considering the cheapest 12' A-frame ladder I could find was $180 at Lowes.  It's heavy, but it's solid.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lEoVxw8AB0Q/SSYpf3LinoI/AAAAAAAAALo/OYEL18NGuAs/s320/DSCN0222.JPG)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: ScottA on December 12, 2008, 05:03:02 PM
Looks good. I like your plans.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 12, 2008, 05:47:00 PM
n74tg: I built a ladder like that before to get up on the roof of a trailer where I used to live. I don't really care for heights to begin with and didn't really like the ladder I built, plus it was hard to store and the one I bought folds up and easy to store, like this:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/DSCF2120.jpg)

Thanks ScottA, I really like how you did the siding on your cabin, it is really nice looking

I got some more work done today by myself. I got the rest of the bottom row of sheathing up and most of the top plates finished. I am going to get some help tomorrow I hope and rip my osb down to finish the top off and build my wall across the front and the shed that will be my bedroom wall and support the roof there. I also picked up a few boards to make up some rafters and ridge board and hopefully get that going tomorrow. Then they are saying rain for four days starting Sunday. And of course here are some pictures:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/36Walls.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/37Walls.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/35Walls.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/41Walls.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/40Walls.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor

Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MountainDon on December 12, 2008, 06:16:39 PM
Good progress Taylor. Coming right along. Lapping the sheets down over the joists and rim joists is an excellent idea for rigidity.

This is not meant as criticism, but is meant for others reading this thread. One thing that speeds up the wall sheathing a little is to use 4 x 9 ft panels... those appear to be 4 x 8, correct me if I'm wrong. The 4 x 9's are not going to be found at most big box stores. In fact some real lumber yards don't carry them; but then I wouldn't call them a real lumber yard. They do cost more per sq ft than the 4 x 8 ft, but they save time. Also in some areas under code inspection, you'd have to install horizontal blocking where the upper and lower panel edges meet. Some codes call for nailing along all sides of the panels.

Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 12, 2008, 06:24:33 PM
Thanks Don.
I understand about the 4x9. I built my walls with 96" studs so I have taller ceiling heights inside, more work dry walling but the 4 or so inches I think will make a difference, so the 4x9 would have still been too short and I got 20% off my sheathing at Lowe's when I got it. I hope to get my blocking in tomorrow also and I still need to block the sheathing on the shed part too.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 13, 2008, 05:34:26 PM
Well I didn't do to much today, my helper didn't show up until late. I hope if it is not raining tomorrow I might get some rafters up.
I built this wall:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/42Walls.jpg)

And since we are going to get a few days of rain or snow/sleet I came up with this to help keep the water out of the shed:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/43Walls.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: zion-diy on December 14, 2008, 10:06:48 AM
FYI, I have 5 acres of my own land for sale in North Central arkansas,listed on the land4sale part of this website.No credit needed.Owner financing.If you are interested check out this link, Thanks Lin

http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=5824.0
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: devildog on December 14, 2008, 01:10:48 PM
I was curious to know how you are tying the two building walls together. Are you cutting a doorway in the wall w/ garage door or are you removing it all together, or leaving it in and having a 7" wall? Thanks darrell
Your doing a greatjob!
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 14, 2008, 05:36:42 PM
Thanks devildog, I plan on removing the wall with the garage door in it after I get the roof on and then I will be left with the wall I built there with 32" door.

My helper came over today and we get the last of the osb up and figured out the birds mouth cut on the rafters which was in the wrong spot at first which you can see on the rafters that are up. They are just temporary to hold the ridge board up and I wanted to make sure I had my cuts right, so they will be removed and replaced after we get the other rafters up.

Here are some pictures

(//i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/44Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/45Roof.jpg)

It is going to be a few days until I can work on it since we are going to have bad weather, but it looks like the weather is going to be nice at the end of the week so maybe I will have my roof on and doors and windows in and get my siding started before x-mas.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 21, 2008, 05:05:50 PM
I thought I would post pictures of what little work I have done. The weather has been bad, got like 2" of snow and sleet and my pipes froze so I spent all of one day thawing them and my pump out, and then I have been sick. But today I wasn't going to let anything stop me from working, it was sunny, mid 20's, wind about 20-25mph, wind chill mid teens, so I didn't get to much done working by myself, I got some rafters cut and a couple more up, hope to get more done tomorrow.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/46Roof.jpg)

Stack of rafters

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/47Roof.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 21, 2008, 06:21:43 PM
Yes it seems something has been going wild this year.  It usually only last 2-3 days but definitely puts a crimp in your style.  Heal up then work.  The roof is no place to be if you are not 100%.  Even using power equipment is a risk as your mind is not actually on what you are doing.  It is easier to cut a board later with 5 fingers on each hand rather than 3 or 4.   ;)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: diyfrank on December 21, 2008, 08:27:33 PM
Hi Taylor,

Looks like your making good progress.
I see you painted your subfloor.  Hows that working out for ya?
I may borrow your idea on my build this spring.  :)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 21, 2008, 08:32:12 PM
Thanks, Painting the floor didn't really work as well as I thought it would, the osb looks about like the osb did in my shed after it got rained on some and it wasn't painted. I am going to sand it flat and paint it again after I get it dried in, and live with that until I can get me some bamboo flooring.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 28, 2008, 06:34:38 PM
Finally got a nice day and I got to do some work. I got a couple of days of 60 degrees and about a week and a half of sunny weather, so I should have a roof by the end of the week. I got some pictures of my work for the day. I was working by my self today, my helper didn't show up until I had all the rafters up so we made a lumber run for tomorrows work.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/48Roof.jpg)

You can see the nails from where I removed the bad rafters, so I still need to remove them.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/49Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/50Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/51Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/52Roof.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 28, 2008, 11:32:04 PM
It's progress. :)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 29, 2008, 07:06:47 PM
Thanks Glenn

I got some more work done today, I got pretty much half of the roof framed. I hope to get most of the other half framed up tomorrow, but it is slow going by my self. I also figured out my over hang. Here are some pictures:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/53Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/54Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/56Roof.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: ScottA on December 29, 2008, 07:21:33 PM
Looks good. Comming right along.  :)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 30, 2008, 05:49:13 PM
Thanks ScottA

I got some more work done, it was a bit windier than I like, so I didn't get everything I wanted done, like usual, lol. I am not stopping tomorrow until I have all the rafters up, then Thursday I am going to trim the rafter tails and start putting sheathing on. I have to get at least get sheathing and tar paper up by Monday since that is the next time it is going to rain.
It is pretty hard to get a 2x8x12 ridge board up by your self but I managed.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/57Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/59Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/58Roof.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: ScottA on December 30, 2008, 07:42:21 PM
I'm having flashbacks of doing my roof alone last winter. What part of Arkansas are you in? The landscape looks about like around here. I'm in NE OK.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 30, 2008, 07:48:10 PM
I am smack north central Arkansas, about 20 miles south of the Missouri Boarder. I am about 140ish miles from the Oklahoma boarder.
I will try to get a picture tomorrow from the top of the roof, it is a great view. I wish heights didn't bother me because I would really like to have a two story, but there is no way I would do a roof that far off the ground. 

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 31, 2008, 12:01:15 AM
It's really not that far, Taylor.  If you fall it will seem as if the ground comes up to meet you. [crz]
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 31, 2008, 09:16:54 AM
LOL Glenn. I rather not have a "meeting" with the ground.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 31, 2008, 01:39:49 PM
As they say it is not the fall that will kill you it is that sudden stop at the bottom.  ;D
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 31, 2008, 06:04:50 PM
Yeah that is true Redover, I just try to keep my distance that I could fall as short as I can.
I didn't get any pictures of the view from the attic, the sun was setting by the time I got the camera out and I wouldn't have been able to get good pictures.
I got all the rafters and joist up, other than the ends and fly rafters. I finally completed what I wanted for a day. My wife will be home tomorrow so she can help me. I am going to get the end rafters finished up, all the tails cut, and the fascia nailed up, and hopefully a couple of sheets of sheathing and my gable ends framed in. I think my helper is going to come over Friday so I can get the sheathing finished up and some tar paper down. I still have to nail my hurricane ties on the joist and cut my blocking for them too.

I was thinking of putting some blocking in the wall that is in front of the shed that the rafters set on, since it doesn't have sheathing to support it. Do you all think that would be a good idea?


(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/60Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/61Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/62Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/63Roof.jpg)

Happy New Years to all

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 01, 2009, 06:43:53 PM
Worked hard today but didn't look like I got much done. I got the end rafters done and fly rafter up on one side, my supports of one of them are jacked up and I have to cut them lose and fix them. I got part of my fascia up on one side and just need to trim the bottom of the rafter and box them in.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/64Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/65Roof.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 01, 2009, 10:38:03 PM
Good job. It will be interesting how you cricket the tie into the new roof with the garage roof.  You will have two valleys.  Might I suggest "ice guard" .
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 01, 2009, 10:42:33 PM
Yeah I am a bit interested in how I am going to do it too, lol. I got it in my head, I just hope it comes out as good and easy as I am picturing it.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 01, 2009, 10:55:24 PM
Peg had posted something on this before you might try to find.  I don't recall what thread it was in.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 01, 2009, 11:06:38 PM
I think I saw that posts before. I got a compound miter saw and both roofs are at 30 degrees so it should be pretty simple. That hardest thing I have had to do so far was put the fly rafters up and I only got on the one side. My father-in-law(my helper) is coming tomorrow morning to help me get sheathing and tar paper up tomorrow, since there is a chance of rain Saturday now. It is going to be around 50's next week, so hopefully I can get the singles up since they said they need to be installed in 40+ weather.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 02, 2009, 07:20:44 PM
I got a good amount of work done today. My helper came over this morning and we worked until it was dark, that is why the pictures are dark. Now I just hope the slight chance of rain tomorrow afternoon we have misses us. I probably don't have any one to help me tomorrow, so I am not sure what I will be able to get done, I might get the eves boxed in and gable walls built if I can't figure out a safe way to get the osb up.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/66Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/67Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/68Roof.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 03, 2009, 11:37:42 AM
Looks like the rain is going to miss me, so I have sunny weather until Friday for now so I don't have to rush. I got some daytime pictures of yesterdays work. Now it is starting to feel like a house. It just surprises me how much bigger it feels inside after I got the roof and joist on.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/71Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/70Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/69Roof.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 03, 2009, 12:06:50 PM
Looks like you are making good progress.  At this rate you should have it sheated and covered fairly soon if you figure out the connection from the garage.  I looked at the photo's again and you don't have alot of overhang on the garage.  Might be a little tricky on the straight side keeping from dumping the water off your new overgang to the side of the garage.  I sure you will figure it out. 

As for the room.  Yeah it does make it look bigger until you start adding partitions, doors and the like. 
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 03, 2009, 01:25:21 PM
Yeah the shed only has about 2" overhang, I am adding 16" overhang to it so it will better match the new part better. It should be about 20" long on the roof side, so I should be able to blend the singles on it.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 04, 2009, 07:13:49 PM
I got the rest of the sheathing on roof and I started framing in one of the gable ends. I hope to frame in my valley to the other roof tomorrow. Here are some dark pictures, I will get some better ones tomorrow.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/73Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/72Roof.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 05, 2009, 12:49:40 PM
Daytime pictures from the work yesterday. It is a little to cold for me to work today and there is a slight chance of sleet, which doesn't sound like it would mix well with working on the roof.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/74Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/75Roof.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on January 05, 2009, 07:00:18 PM
on the last photo above: there appears to be a 2x4 that is at the top of the wall and attached to the sheathing.  It is not mimicked on the far side and does not appear to go across the sheathing to the intersection of the existing structure.  What is it for?
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 05, 2009, 07:10:43 PM
That is a 2x6 for boxing in my sofit area I just haven't added it to the other side yet or finished it on the one side. I don't know if it is the right way to do it, but that is the way I decided to do it, lol. I was using 2x6 instead of 2x4 because I have lots pieces from the rafter tails.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 05, 2009, 07:23:09 PM
Taylor are you going to trim the rafter tails off to be horizontal with your band board (bottom)at the rafter tail or are you going to use a 1" (3/4") board wider than that to come down below the tail's.

I also take that you are going to build "bird boxes" as the transistion from the gable soffit?
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 05, 2009, 07:34:56 PM
Yeah I am going to trim the bottoms off flush. I am not sure what "bird boxes" are ???, but I am going box the end in, you can see where I brought the 2x6 out to the fly rafter to box it in. I guessing that is what "bird boxes" are.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 05, 2009, 10:40:14 PM
I guess the proper name is an "eve transition" or something similar.  Here is a couple that I did.  One is on the garage and the other is on the cabin. 

Apparently something screwy is going on with Photobucket as I can't copy the pics.  If I do later I will repost.




Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 05, 2009, 10:45:51 PM
I looked at your photobucket account and saw the pictures you where talking about, and yes that is what I plan on doing.
Like this one:

(https://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd161/redoverfarm/hightop/100_2259-1.jpg)


Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 05, 2009, 10:51:03 PM
Well I guess there is more than one way to "skin a cat".  That what I was trying to do.  Did you copy that off Photobucket?  Why can't I.  The two pictures were the first two in a "sub albumn" of Hightop Albumn listed as "FARM". 
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 05, 2009, 10:54:45 PM
These:

(https://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd161/redoverfarm/hightop/farm/100_1520-1.jpg)

(https://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd161/redoverfarm/hightop/farm/100_0125-1.jpg)

I use firefox 3.0.5 for my browser and in photobucket, I just mouse over the pictures and click on the img code and hit ctrl-c or (right click copy) to copy it.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 05, 2009, 11:04:17 PM
Yep those are the two. I would always right click and it would note "copied" in yellow but for some reason it will not tonight.  Anyway you got what I was trying to give you.  Did you ever find that link on the garage transistion to the new addition in CP.  I wish I could remember where or when I saw it.

Hey I found it.  You might have to go up or down but here it is.

http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=5215.0
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 05, 2009, 11:18:55 PM
Yeah the auto copy feature in photobucket doesn't work anymore with the newest flash(v10) updates.

Thanks for the link, I think I have seen it before. That is how I planned on doing it. I just hope it goes easy, because I am going to be doing it my self, so the I don't have to make a lot of trips up and down the roof.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: zion-diy on January 08, 2009, 10:53:39 AM
Taylor, is there a reason you don't extend the ridge pole off the shed so it ties into the addition? seem like that would create a natural valley for water to flow off.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 08, 2009, 11:09:32 AM
That is what I plan on doing. I going to do that today since the weather is going to be nice and not to windy, since I don't care much for being up on the roof. If I get it all framed up and sheathing on today I might get started on the tar paper, if not probably tomorrow.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 08, 2009, 06:07:53 PM
I got side tracked today, I got a late x-mas present I ordered awhile ago. Since I know everyone like the white Cherokees, I will post pictures. I got a set of Hella 500 driving lights. It took about half of the day since I had to take the bumper off and straighten it, it was bent a little on one end.

With covers

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/DSCF2175.jpg)

Without covers

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/DSCF2174.jpg)

I did get my ridge board up for my extension, so I should just have to cut a few rafters tomorrow and it will be finished up.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/76Roof.jpg)

From inside the shed

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/77Roof.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 08, 2009, 06:14:26 PM
Since today was my first day of actually working on the roof myself. I had my helper nail all the sheathing up there and I just pushed them up to him. Are there and tricks to get traction on the roof, I had my work boots on and they just slid. What type of shoes do you all wear up on the roof?? Do tennie shoes work any better?

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: ScottA on January 08, 2009, 06:18:50 PM
I wear tennis shoes.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MaineRhino on January 08, 2009, 06:19:12 PM
A friend of mine is a professional carpenter, and they use 3'x4' foam mats, roughly 6" thick that they kneel on when they shingle a roof, even up to a 10/12 pitch! The pads don't slip, or so he says! d*

In your case, sneakers may work better.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 08, 2009, 06:26:25 PM
Thanks guys I will give it a try tomorrow. I figured that help, but sometime I drop boards on my feet so the steel toes are nice, I will just have to be more careful, lol.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 09, 2009, 07:15:41 PM
Well the tennis shoes bit me in the rear. I was unloading about 4 or so sheets( 2 full sheets and enough cut pieces to make up 2-3 sheets) of 5/8 osb from the truck so I could to get a few things from Lowes. I was sliding the sheets out and the cut pieces shifted and it all slide out and fell on my big toe and broke it  d*. So I spent the day with my foot up in the air all day so nothing got built. I hope I can get my helper to come finish helping me frame my little bit left and get the tar paper on since I don't know how long I am going to be on the side line. I am having a hard time just walking much less trying to get up on the roof.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 10, 2009, 12:22:56 AM
Ouch...don't do that... [waiting]

Alternatively, the disadvantage of steel toed boots in my line of work is the chance of a piece of heavy steel falling on the toes and amputating all of them at once with the steel toe itself or trapping all of them in the smashed toe of the boot. 

I need to look up engineering specs on them I guess.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: harry51 on January 10, 2009, 02:13:04 AM
Maybe you could use some roof jacks to give you a place to work from on the roof.  http://www.diy-hq.net/outdoor/installing-roof-jacks.html (http://www.diy-hq.net/outdoor/installing-roof-jacks.html)

Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 10, 2009, 02:21:58 AM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on January 10, 2009, 12:22:56 AM
Ouch...don't do that... [waiting]

Alternatively, the disadvantage of steel toed boots in my line of work is the chance of a piece of heavy steel falling on the toes and amputating all of them at once with the steel toe itself or trapping all of them in the smashed toe of the boot. 

I need to look up engineering specs on them I guess.

Looks like Myth Buthterth did a guillotine test on this -- a remarkably small 750 lbs plus will do serious damage- rolling loads may or may not take your toes off but that is not what they tested for.

Looks like steel toes for the little to medium stuff then bets are off after that. 

Union got out of them due to frostbite problems in cold areas.

I can say that a steel plate crushed and folded around your toes will not be pleasant to get off.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MountainDon on January 10, 2009, 02:30:53 AM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on January 10, 2009, 02:21:58 AM
-- a remarkably small 750 lbs plus will do serious damage-


750 lbs...... SMALL!!!!!    :o          I don't even want to think about that!!



Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: rwanders on January 10, 2009, 04:14:14 AM
I have noticed more injuries from stepping on nails then from falling objects on sites I worked---at one site we were issued metal insoles to help avoid punctured soles-----they proved to be rather unpleasant in very cold Alaska winters though. If you dropped 750 + pounds on your foot----metal toes or not, you will have a very bad day indeed.  We do what we can do anyway-----or at least what will make the employer's attorney happy.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 10, 2009, 11:18:38 AM
Quote from: harry51 on January 10, 2009, 02:13:04 AM
Maybe you could use some roof jacks to give you a place to work from on the roof.  http://www.diy-hq.net/outdoor/installing-roof-jacks.html (http://www.diy-hq.net/outdoor/installing-roof-jacks.html)

Yeah I have some roof jacks up there. I just can't really use them over were I am framing in my valley, and I can't stand on the roof with the boots, they just slide down to the roof jacks. My helper had on skate boarding shoes(he finds them to be comfortable) and he was walking around like it was flat.

glenn: I saw that mythbusters, and it looked like if it was heavy enough it didn't matter if you had steel toes or not.

The weather doesn't look to bad for tomorrow, it rained a little last night and cold and very windy today. So if my helper comes maybe get the roof framing and tar paper finished. But for me today is another day with my foot up in the air.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 10, 2009, 02:31:31 PM
Quote from: MountainDon on January 10, 2009, 02:30:53 AM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on January 10, 2009, 02:21:58 AM
-- a remarkably small 750 lbs plus will do serious damage-


750 lbs...... SMALL!!!!!    :o          I don't even want to think about that!!





I commonly work with beams and columns from 200 lbs to 3000 lbs and a bit uncommonly up to 10,000 lbs.  I tend to forget that not everyone does.  I figure steel toes would not make a difference for me. [waiting]
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 13, 2009, 12:12:57 AM
I was looking around the site and saw Beavers plans for 14x24, so I did a quick drawing of what mine would look like.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/floorplan.jpg)

Let me know if you like it better than my other idea. The wife likes them both, the new one would be much easier for plumbing.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 13, 2009, 12:12:14 PM
Here is a couple more ideas I had, I added 4' to the length of the shed. I think it would be easier to lengthen the shed than trying to build the closet on the side. This is just rough idea, I could do different closets and add more windows.

One idea

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/floorplanv2.jpg)

I am liking this one

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/floorplanv3.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: ScottA on January 13, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
Looks like a good plan. I like the top one better. I think if it was me I'd add a french door from the bedroom out onto the deck.  ;) but that's just me.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 13, 2009, 12:26:32 PM
Thanks Scott. I would like to add some french doors out on the deck, but they would take up a lot of floor space and I was planning on putting a dresser up against the wall there. I might add another window on that wall or put a double window.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MountainDon on January 13, 2009, 12:58:24 PM
I prefer having the laundry machines in their own space, not in the bathroom.

What type of water tank; gas, electric? If you are planning gas it may need to be located in a closet space that has its own combustion air supply.

If you really desire french doors you should do some research. They may be available on special order configured to swing out. They require special locking pin hinges for security, but it is an option that frees up interior floor space.  Of course the down side of doing that is it pretty much rules out an screen doors for summer ventilation.

The closet on the side would complicate your roof.

Furnace?

Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MountainDon on January 13, 2009, 01:00:26 PM
Placing the bathroom as in the last drawing means that all guests, etc. must pass through your bedroom to use the toilet. I don't think I'd like that myself.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 13, 2009, 01:18:50 PM
I would like to have the washer and dryer in a different place than the bathroom. I got an idea I am going to draw up in a few minutes.

Everything is going to be electric, I think I am going to get a 40g tank and I will have a water softener sometime after I get my well.

I have looked in the the outward singing doors, but they are just way too far out of my price range. The ones I found were in the $2500 range and that is about what I spent on the building, lol.

I plan on getting a furnace at some point in time and it will go in the attic so it won't take up and floor space.

You have a good point about the bathroom, but I am not to worried about guest. I have lived here for almost a year and I think I have had one or two people over a couple times and they don't stay for more than a hour or so.

I really appreciate your input.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 13, 2009, 01:36:47 PM
Here is an idea I had to get the washer and dryer out of the bathroom, I was thinking I could put the water heater in the full height cabinets by the refrigerator.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/floorplanv4.jpg)

Yeah I know I forgot the door for the bathroom.

Thanks

Taylor 
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 13, 2009, 04:07:42 PM
How about washer and dryer in the walk in closet? I was thinking a window across from the toilet. Wouldn't have to go far from the dryer to hang up the cloths, lol.

I think this one makes the most out of the space.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/floorplanv5.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on January 13, 2009, 06:56:57 PM
My 2 cents: I like the kitchen on the left side, as it allows for the expansion to the right you have shown before with out ripping out the kitchen (not food prep) and moving the plumbing during the next phase.  Either way, I look forward to seeing the progress.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 13, 2009, 07:20:12 PM
Soomb: Something like this:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/floorplanv6.jpg)

I know what you mean about the kitchen on the left. The wife really likes it on the right, might have to let her know how much easier it would be on the left.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on January 13, 2009, 07:25:11 PM
Selling points:  Less work, get up and morning coffee is right there (well with a small place, that will get you a stare), as you expand, the TV is further away from the bed room wall so one can sleep in on the weekend and not be disturbed by the other watching morning TV.  Or you could do as I would  "yes dear". ;D
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: ScottA on January 13, 2009, 07:50:43 PM
I like that one better.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 13, 2009, 09:04:18 PM
Alright we are going to go with the last one with the kitchen on the left. Now I will have to modify my window framing between the two front windows, since on is 3' high and the other 4'.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: ScottA on January 13, 2009, 09:42:22 PM
Don't be affraid to change things. I had like 10k redesigns on my so far.  :-[

BTW In one version you had the bath by the living area. Put that with the left kitchen and I think you got a winner. That way a guest wouldn't need to walk through your bedroom to use the restroom. Also puts the plumbing closer together.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 13, 2009, 09:46:49 PM
It would be a real pain if you had a guest or two and you wanted to sleep in and they had to shower or do a doodoo.  They would have to go through the bedroom.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 13, 2009, 09:58:42 PM
Yeah the only guest that I have is my mom and she has a fifth-wheel trailer to stay in, or than that I don't have any other guest. I do really like having a bathroom in the bedroom for the late night call of nature.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on January 13, 2009, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on January 13, 2009, 09:46:49 PM
It would be a real pain if you had a guest or two and you wanted to sleep in and they had to shower or do a doodoo.  They would have to go through the bedroom.
Glenn: could you cut down on the foul language?  How about we say Kaka or poopoo and save the harsh words for the job site?
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 13, 2009, 11:08:15 PM
Sorry, soomb.  I have referred to it as making a new brother or welder or (insert trade of your choice here). [crz]
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: bayview on January 13, 2009, 11:27:44 PM
   Here is a plan I had previously worked. . . Similar to what you are doing. . . (Yes, I have no life) ;)

(https://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e149/bayviewps/Misc/CountryPlan3.jpg)

(https://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e149/bayviewps/Misc/CountryPlan4.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on January 13, 2009, 11:38:43 PM
Bayview: are those both via SketchUp?
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: bayview on January 14, 2009, 06:46:18 AM
Quote from: soomb on January 13, 2009, 11:38:43 PM
Bayview: are those both via SketchUp?

   3D Home Architect Deluxe  Ver. 2.1  - Installed March 13, 1997

   I have had over ten years of dreams . . .  ;)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 14, 2009, 02:00:10 PM
Bayview: That is a really nice floor plan. Looks like both sides are 14' wide, I would try it but my bedroom "wing" is only 12' and it would start to get a little tight.

I got a puppy today and thought I would share. His name is Jack and is a full-blood Australian Shepherd and about 5 1/2 weeks old. Hopefully he will enjoy living with us out in the country.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/DSCF2182.jpg)

I haven't really got to do anything on the house. My toe still hurts pretty bad walking around much. But it was warm the other day so I felt I needed to work some, but by the time I got all the tools out and got started I got one the boards that the rafter nail to on the bottom of the valley and then it started getting cold and windy so I had to stop.

It is warm today but the wind is blow 20-30mph and then tomorrow it is going to be 25 high and 4 low so I think I am going to stay inside, lol. Saturday the weather looks nice so maybe I can get it finished up and I can start my 4' extension on the back of the shed.


Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 14, 2009, 06:14:03 PM
Taylor he sort of looks like a border collie.  The Australian Shepherd we had was basic white with black & brown patches.  Had weird eyes.  They were split eyes (blue & brown) but each eye was spit differently( one horizontal and the other verticle).  Good dog and smart.  Had some stray bear dogs hanging around one year and he left with them one season and never returned.  That was just after I spent $700 on him to an injury he got in the barbed wire.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Terry on January 14, 2009, 06:44:59 PM
Taylor, The puppy is sooo cute! Will it be an inside or outside dog? If inside, potty training is something to look forward to and alot of fun.  ::)
Hope your foot gets better soon so you can get back to working on the house. I really enjoy reading your post and looking at your progress on the house. Oh by the way, we're almost neighbors.  :)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: bayview on January 14, 2009, 06:50:57 PM
Quote from: Taylor on January 14, 2009, 02:00:10 PM
Bayview: That is a really nice floor plan. Looks like both sides are 14' wide, I would try it but my bedroom "wing" is only 12' and it would start to get a little tight.

  Ok Taylor,  I flipped it around and made the bedroom wing 12 ft.
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(https://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e149/bayviewps/Misc/CountryPlan5.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 14, 2009, 07:10:06 PM
Redoverfarm : He was the only one out of the litter that was mostly black, the other black ones had a lot of white and tan and there was a couple of merle( multi-colored) they were all ready taken. Sorry to hear about your dog.

Terry: He will be inside and outside dog. I have a giant dog crate for him to stay in when we aren't watching him, so I hope that helps, if not he might be an outside dog, lol.

bayviewps: You must like designing floor plans like I do, I don't know how many different plans I have done. That looks pretty good there. The only problem I think I would have is the wall between the kitchen and bath is a load bearing wall. And when I framed up my door opening in it I set it over from the right wall a little bit so I only have about 7'6" from the left wall to the door frame and I think that would be to small for a bath, so I would have to reframe that wall with a header for the opening. I wonder if I could double up the ceiling joist where the rafters/joist meet it and use some hangers to support them over that opening, but I don't know.

But I might have to look in to doing that since all the plumbing is right there in one spot.

Thank you all for the comments.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 14, 2009, 07:15:06 PM
Taylor if you haven't had that kind of dog before.  Beware as they along with Border Coliies, Australian Cattle dog(blue or red heelers) are a bundle of energy.  They need constant exercise and don't do well in kennels.  They are devoted and very smart dogs.  Good Luck
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 14, 2009, 07:22:56 PM
I had one before that was part board collie and part aussie, she diffidently didn't like being pinned up at all. I am just going to use the kennel for a little while, until he is big enough to stay outside when we aren't here. I am home most of the time anyways so he will pretty much be in there when we are asleep. I live out in the county so he can run around unpinned.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on January 15, 2009, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: bayviewps on January 14, 2009, 06:50:57 PM
Quote from: Taylor on January 14, 2009, 02:00:10 PM
Bayview: That is a really nice floor plan. Looks like both sides are 14' wide, I would try it but my bedroom "wing" is only 12' and it would start to get a little tight.

  Ok Taylor,  I flipped it around and made the bedroom wing 12 ft.
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(https://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e149/bayviewps/Misc/CountryPlan5.jpg)
BayView:  I hope you don't mind that I snapped your layout into EverNote for the future.  I am working on sketch-up to develop my first attempt, "an ATV shed" for land we are looking at.  I had the lay out as one long rectangle and was not sure, with the lay out I had, how or where to add on in the future.  Your design would allow an easy addition of another bedroom to the lower portion of the sketch where the door is now.  AND since I am following BishopKnight and SpeedFunk as they use earth berm designs, the left had side is window free and could be earth bermed.

Taylor, sorry for the short hijack, but I had to say thank you to you both as this has helped me stop thinking of longer and longer rectangles.

Craig
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 15, 2009, 11:30:45 AM
No problem soomb. I wanted to make sure I didn't have a long rectangle because I didn't want it to look like a mobile home since it is the same width as them.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 15, 2009, 08:45:59 PM
Yet another idea we had, well it is a different version of a idea I had. We really like it. It has lots of storage in the kitchen with the full height cabinets.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/floorplanv7.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: bayview on January 15, 2009, 09:59:03 PM
Quote from: soomb on January 15, 2009, 11:20:20 AM

BayView:  I hope you don't mind that I snapped your layout into EverNote for the future.  I am working on sketch-up to develop my first attempt, "an ATV shed" for land we are looking at.  I had the lay out as one long rectangle and was not sure, with the lay out I had, how or where to add on in the future.  Your design would allow an easy addition of another bedroom to the lower portion of the sketch where the door is now.  AND since I am following BishopKnight and SpeedFunk as they use earth berm designs, the left had side is window free and could be earth bermed.

Craig

   I hope it helps you.  Keep us informed on your progress!
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: NM_Shooter on January 23, 2009, 07:56:46 PM
Build update?  How's the weather there?  Getting snowed on?
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 23, 2009, 08:12:34 PM
I haven't really felt like climbing up on the roof and my toe still hurts, so I haven't gotten anything done like I should. The weather was nice yesterday. Mid 60's hardly any wind, but instead of working on the roof, I went wheelin' at the national forest in my jeep.
The weather wasn't to bad today and I planed on working but my helper couldn't come so I will probably have to work this weekend on it when it is in the 30's, lol. No snow, but they are saying something about some snow next week but they never know.

Thanks for checking in. I did decide about 99% sure I am going to go with the last floor plan I posted.

Since everyone loves pictures, here are some picture form my wheelin' trip.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/Its%20a%20Jeep%20Thing/DSCF2209.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/Its%20a%20Jeep%20Thing/DSCF2213.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/Its%20a%20Jeep%20Thing/DSCF2222.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/Its%20a%20Jeep%20Thing/DSCF2204.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/Its%20a%20Jeep%20Thing/DSCF2205.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/Its%20a%20Jeep%20Thing/DSCF2235.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/Its%20a%20Jeep%20Thing/DSCF2241.jpg)


Add here is just some scenery from the national forest:

My wife, I kept telling to her walk out farther because of the tree but she wasn't going any farther.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/DSCF2242.jpg)

View from the bluff

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/DSCF2247.jpg)

Creeks along the trails

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/DSCF2233.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/DSCF2234.jpg)


Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 24, 2009, 12:32:36 AM
Nice scenery, Taylor.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MountainDon on January 24, 2009, 12:40:37 AM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on January 24, 2009, 12:32:36 AM
Nice scenery, Taylor.

Yes, and a nice choice of vehicle!!   ;D
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 24, 2009, 12:55:53 AM
Thanks Guys, that spot is about 40 miles from my house down between Calico Rock and Mountain View. I will be sure to get some pictures this spring when everything doesn't look so dead.

Yeah, I love the jeep. It will go every where I want it to, and there is some pretty hairy spots on the trails.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: NM_Shooter on January 24, 2009, 11:32:50 PM
Is that the overlook of the North Fork of the white river below Norfolk lake? 

-f-
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 24, 2009, 11:36:34 PM
It is just the white river, south of calico rock.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 25, 2009, 03:52:47 PM
Progress!!!!!!!!!!!  :)

My helper came over today and we finished of the roof framing, it was in the mid 20's and slight snow flurries but it is all framed up. We are supposed to get some winter weather in the next couple of days then it will be back in the 50's so I can get the tar paper and frame my gable end.

The black stuff on top is just a scrap strip of tar paper to keep the snow out of the gap for now.

From the inside:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/78Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/79Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/80Roof.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 25, 2009, 06:29:03 PM
Good Job Taylor.  I see you worked it out.  Don't forget the "ice guard" for the valleys.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 25, 2009, 06:44:30 PM
Thanks Redoverfarm

One side was easy to cut with my compound miter saw, but the other side I had to use a skill saw because my miter saw only tilts to one side and doesn't go to 60 degrees so it took some thought to use, lol.  ???

Now I need to get my eves framed in on the shed sides and remove some shingles so I can get my rubber membrane down for my valley and get tar paper up. After that and getting gables framed in and house wrap everything then I am going to shingle the roof, so it will pretty much be dried in.

I was wondering when I get to insulating the floor can I use left over house wrap to put along the bottom of the joist, kinda of like a mobile home? Help keep bugs and stuff out.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 25, 2009, 09:37:01 PM
I was playing around with photoshop and here is a panorama picture from the bluffs. I wish I would have thought about it when I was there and I would have taken more, but next I will so I can have a big picture.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/BluffPanorama.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 26, 2009, 01:13:10 AM
Cool pix - Not a flood plain?
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 26, 2009, 01:32:19 AM
Yea, Actually the river there last spring was much much higher during record floods. Closed down the Hwy through there too.

Here is a picture of the bridge right down from there:

(http://media.ky3.com/images/320*240/HOUSE+2.jpg)

(http://pictopia.com/perl/get_image?provider_id=150&size=550x550_mb&ptp_photo_id=3913287)

The river much lower but not all the way back down:

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_FAMpjH1KTz8/R_ADecIRTvI/AAAAAAAAC7k/iVNnUBcu-6c/s640/DSCF0380.JPG)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 26, 2009, 01:55:59 AM
That always bothers me - I don't like to build in those areas.  I had a customer build a pad 4 feet high - he protested but did it.  We built his building there and many times it would have been flooded if he had not raised the pad.  I think he may have been happy he did.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: zion-diy on January 26, 2009, 08:48:44 AM
The floating house belonged to a friend of mine. He's still a little testy when I mention how nice the the roofing held up.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: NM_Shooter on January 27, 2009, 12:18:22 AM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on January 26, 2009, 01:55:59 AM
That always bothers me - I don't like to build in those areas.  I had a customer build a pad 4 feet high - he protested but did it.  We built his building there and many times it would have been flooded if he had not raised the pad.  I think he may have been happy he did.

A lot of the flooding that was caused there was due to the Corps of Eng. opening all of the flood gates on Norfolk Lake Dam.  It darn near scrubbed the valley clean.  A friend of mine that I grew up with sent me some pictures of the dam with all the gates open.  I'm going to see if I can find some of the pix.  Pretty amazing sight.

Here's a video:  http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=zOIujk-jfTY

Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: zion-diy on January 27, 2009, 08:50:09 AM
NM shooter, It was an awe inspiring sight when they had all the gates open. We motorcycled over the top the day before they opened the gates. I swear I could reach over the guardrail and touch the water. It was pretty scarey, thinking they might lose this dam. next morning they opened the gates. we drove back to watch and feel the spray.later in the day we decided to drive hwy 5 back to Calico Rock. made it all the way to the park outside town. Had to turn back cause that whole part of town was under water :o
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 27, 2009, 11:30:51 AM
Here is a panorama picture from my front yard of the ice. I also lost power this morning about the time I got up this morning, so I am running off generator for now until I run out of gas, then I am going to have to go to the gas station.


(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/IcePanorama.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 28, 2009, 12:56:11 AM
That was a lot of water.  Fresno has a dam that has been leaking for years.  Some day it may come to town.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 28, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
Here is a picture of my house to be covered in ice. Still no power, they say it will be several days to weeks before it is all restored. I am staying in my mom's 5th wheel and just filled the propane tanks up so I am nice and warm, and I run the generator some to have internet and tv. The only thing that sucks is the hot water heater is leaking some were so I have to block it off so I only have cold water, but that is a lot better than most have.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/DSCF2281.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 28, 2009, 06:32:45 PM
Taylor it looks like you will have to wait for the spring thaw to finish the roof. ;D  I guess it is hard w/o hot water.  Glad we didn't get what was predicted or we might be in the same shape.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on January 28, 2009, 06:45:48 PM
Yeah I know what you mean. They are saying something about it be in the 50's in a week, so maybe I can get some tar paper on there. I plan on pulling the water heater out tomorrow and look at it, I think the aluminum tank has a hole in it but I can't really see. If it does have a hole do you all think it can be welded?
My heater has a hose that goes over the water tank so the water isn't real cold, warm enough to take a quick shower, but it is going to be cold.

My father in law lives about 7 miles away, he doesn't have power but has water and gas water heater, so I could go take a hot shower there, but the water company doesn't have power and they don't know how long it is going to last.

I am glad I don't have any trees in my yard.
Here are a couple of pictures from next door at my dad's house. The trees ripped the power meter off the side of the house. All the oak trees in the front yard are never going to look the same.
It was kind of scare trying to fall asleep and then BOOM there goes a limb, there is one oak tree about 30' from the 5th wheel that lots a couple of limbs.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/Ice%202009/DSCF2288.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/Ice%202009/DSCF2295.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/Ice%202009/DSCF2294.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/Ice%202009/DSCF2291.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Terry on February 03, 2009, 02:30:23 PM
Taylor, How are you doing? It's been a week since we have heard from you. I'm wondering if you're still thawing out from the ice storm and still don't have power? The pics of the ice is beautiful however not much fun, I'm sure.

We are close (Greers Ferry) but didn't get the ice as you did. Hope you and family are doing ok. My prayers are with you.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on February 03, 2009, 02:47:27 PM
I am on day 7 without power, had to go stay with my dad and his wife and her mom, I think staying there with no power was better, lol. I even went and took a nap over at my house in the cold today for some quiet, lol. There are about 6 broken poles for the circuit I am on and there are only probably 15 of us on that circuit so who knows how long till I get power, they are hoping for all of power to be restored by the end of the month but they don't have a clue. I have electricity through a Co-Op, I wish I had Entergy because the got their power back up on my road today but their service ends about 1/4 mile from my house.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on February 03, 2009, 03:11:57 PM
I am thinking about getting a gas fire place for my house now. I saw Lowes has a 20k BTU all in one on sale for $180ish from $450, but it is a Vent-Free, is there any major problems with that or would I be ok as long as I get a carbon monoxide detector?

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Terry on February 03, 2009, 07:14:11 PM
Glad to hear you're ok. Sorry to hear about the no power yet. Just heard on the news that Entergy still has 32,000 customers without power and the Electric Co op still has 60,000 without.  :(  I really feel for you guys up north.

We loved our gas (butane) fire place in the house we sold a couple years ago. I can't remember if it was ventless though  ??? I've slept since then and hubby is not home yet to ask. So, I'm not much help but I'll let you know when I find out.

Hope you get your power on soon; and, good to hear from you.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: river place on February 03, 2009, 08:45:08 PM
Hope you get the power on soon!  While we live in Dallas TX our build place is in Pencil Bluff AR which didn't get much ice at all.

I've heard the ventless units can cause the build up of excessive moisture in rooms.  I'm also not sure how they deal with CO.  We're going to go with vented units running on propane.  Have a vented cast iron fireplace but not installed yet.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: ScottA on February 03, 2009, 08:48:55 PM
Ventless heater are ok in old drafty houses but wouldn't use one in a new tight house unless you plan to leave a window open. This why combustion air is required for water heaters and furnaces in newer houses. They burn up the oxygen in the room.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MountainDon on February 03, 2009, 09:11:12 PM
Ventless heaters "deal with CO" by producing it, allowing it to spread around the house; then, IF the systems are working right they are supposed to turn off the burner when the O2 level hits some certain minimum. The CO's still there someplace, though.

Never, ever use a non vented appliance. I've mentioned this before on here; my neighbors in the mountains were almost killed by their propane refrigerator last spring.

Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on February 03, 2009, 10:16:26 PM
Thanks for the heads up, I guess if I get a gas fire place I will be sure to get a vented one, but that is really that last thing on my mind right now.
Speaking of gas fire places, the guy that lives a couple of houses over from me has one. I was talking to him the other day and he said Tuesday(when the power went out) he went out to check his tank and it was low, he said it was so low that his fire place wouldn't fire up but he could still run his stove, so I guess if you do have gas make sure it is full before the storm, lol. The bad thing about it is he is a brick mason and wanted a wood fire place but his wife didn't want the hassle from it.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: MountainDon on February 03, 2009, 10:39:03 PM
It's a bad idea to let the propane yard tank get too low because if something happens, like a storm or you simply forget to call for more the tank may run dry. When that happens here it creates a problem and an expense for you. That's because if a home tank is empty when the delivery truck comes they can not fill the tank without having done an inspection to make sure there are no leaks. That's how it is here in NM at least. It's about a $60 minimum charge.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on February 06, 2009, 07:53:28 PM
Just to let everyone know, I got my power back on today  :). It went out Jan 27 about 8:00am so it was out about 11 days. One good thing, they cleared all the trees from around the lines so I should fair better next ice storm.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 06, 2009, 08:07:35 PM
Good news Taylor.  I am sure others wish theirs were back on.  Funny how you get dependent on power.  Take it for granite most of the time.  I was digging into some OLD OLD papers and found my Electric bill from 1976 and I was paying $40 dollars a month. Also found my pay stub and I was only making $514 a month.  I guess it is about the same now huh.   
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on February 23, 2009, 05:13:43 PM
Progress!  :)

I finally got out and did some work. My helper was supposed to come, but never showed, so I was working by my self. I put the tar paper down a little backwards I guess you say. I did it this way so I could get it up with my safety boards that I had up and I can slide the bottom piece in from the ladder. I plan on finishing the one side tomorrow and maybe get the other side done and get my drip edge on.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/81Roof.jpg)

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 23, 2009, 05:40:21 PM
Taylor that will work just remember to slide the bottom row under the one above.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Terry on March 11, 2009, 06:45:13 PM
Taylor, you haven't posted in a while.  ???  Just wondering how everything is going?
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on March 13, 2009, 02:31:03 PM
I haven't gotten anything else done since my last post. I moved in to the house next door to where I am building that my dad owns. I am trying to rent to own from him and my mom is going to live in my house I have been building, so between moving and cleaning 20 years of stuff of my dad's and dirt and grim and the 20+ mph winds I haven't get the any more work done. I hope in the next week or so to get some stuff done on it.

After that I have a lot of projects to do in the house I living in now if I get to rent to own.

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on April 15, 2009, 06:39:09 PM
I got some progress done  :)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/82Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/83Roof.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/84Roof.jpg)

I ran out of house wrap that is why it stops. I need to trim the ends of the tar paper and get the drip railing on it, and get tar paper on the extension part of the roof.
The weather is going to be nice tomorrow so I should get some shingles on.

I do have a question for everyone. I was wondering if I could use one or two Air Vent Power Roof Mount Fans that turn on automatically to vent the attic instead of a ridge vent. I notice my dad's house has one but it also has gable vents too.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on April 17, 2009, 04:16:47 PM
I got some shingles on it  :)

Took me about 4 hours to get this far.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/85Roof.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on May 02, 2009, 04:12:01 PM
As I am getting closer to having it dried in. I need to start thinking about the inside. My wife and I decided we are going to finish the house and live in it instead of buying my dad's house.

I am still trying to figure out how to lay out the inside of the house. I have a lot of different designs but it is still up in the air. So I thought I would ask all of you all how you would do it. These are thing I need to have a 5' shower in my bath, washer and dryer, dishwasher, and queen size bed. Here is the layout of the structure that can't be changed, I can add more windows, and build a closet add-on on the outside if needed.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/floorbasic.jpg)

Thank you for all your help

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on May 02, 2009, 05:10:04 PM
There was one like this posted before but I am leaning towards this one:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/floorv1.jpg)

Let me know

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on May 02, 2009, 06:01:39 PM
I like that one the best, and it allows for very short and easy plumbing run.  expansion woule be easy out of wall on the living room, should you want to add a room.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on May 02, 2009, 07:19:24 PM
Yeah, the wife and I like it too. Here it is with a small room added on if I need to.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/floorv11.jpg)

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on May 03, 2009, 11:32:32 AM
Where would you all put the beaker panel in that plan? Right now the power trench comes to the top right corner of the bedroom, but I don't want the panel in the bedroom. I was thinking some where by the hot water heater, since it would be in a central location.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on May 03, 2009, 01:07:24 PM
Could you put it on the wall in the short hall way?  And then cover it with a picture or other art work?
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on May 03, 2009, 01:15:22 PM
That might work. I am thinking on the wall just right of the dryer. Now I wonder if I have enough wire to make it from the pole to there. Do they make a junction box that I can mount under the house to splice my 2/0 copper wiring if I don't have enough?

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on May 03, 2009, 01:22:30 PM
I did a little research. If I don't have enough wire, I will just buy some longer wire. That seams to be the easiest and probably cheapest way.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: NM_Shooter on May 04, 2009, 12:22:37 AM
Does Mountain Home have a Lowe's now?  Wow.  I remember when the McDonald's was big news!
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on May 04, 2009, 12:24:22 AM
Yeah they have had a Lowes and home depot for awhile. Just had petco open up not to long ago. It is a booming place.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Susan on the Osage Plains on May 23, 2009, 03:19:08 AM
I'm a little late on the ventless gas discussion but I've had it for four years and have never had a problem at all.  When we had a bad ice storm, we were nice and toasty warm.  Also, it uses no where near the gas that a conventional one uses.  My mother the "scardy cat" even bought one after the last storm.  I have nothing but good to say for them.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: JC on July 17, 2010, 02:29:20 PM
Taylor, enjoyed reading about your house building & trials /tribulations during the ice storm.  We used to live in Mt. Home & are familiar with the area.  We were up there 2 wks. ago. Daughter, son-in-law& grand son live there off of christanson rd.  They were without elec. 13 days.  Had to chainsaw their way out.  I used to live in meadowcrest.  Plan on coming up sometime in aug.  Would like to meet you if possible.                                                                                                                                                                                                               JC
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on September 16, 2010, 07:53:36 PM
I am back and going to be updating my topic with pictures soon. I have had a lot of stuff going on and what not. But here is my working floor plan right now. This is going to just be for me to live in now. It is 529sqft.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/layout2010.jpg)

Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: soomb on October 17, 2010, 03:20:11 PM
Welcome back.  Seems like there have been some changes for you.  I look forward to watching your progress.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on October 17, 2010, 05:42:32 PM
Thanks soomb.

I was playing around with my floorplan a little more. I am thinking a front porch would be nice added on some time.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/layout2010V12.jpg)
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Bill Houghton on October 18, 2010, 07:53:11 PM
Taylor,

I hope you don't mind my suggestion.  Would it be possible to put the laundry opening back into the kitchen and move the bathroom to the wall behind the laundry?  You could then have a door to the bathroom in the "hallway" between the kitchen and bedroom.  That way, someone could use the bathroom even if you were in bed sleeping without having to walk through the bedroom.  Also, it would cut down on plumbing runs, clustering all of the plumbing right there close together. Saves money, time and materials.

Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on October 18, 2010, 07:59:30 PM
Quote from: Bill Houghton on October 18, 2010, 07:53:11 PM
Taylor,

I hope you don't mind my suggestion.  Would it be possible to put the laundry opening back into the kitchen and move the bathroom to the wall behind the laundry?  You could then have a door to the bathroom in the "hallway" between the kitchen and bedroom.  That way, someone could use the bathroom even if you were in bed sleeping without having to walk through the bedroom.  Also, it would cut down on plumbing runs, clustering all of the plumbing right there close together. Saves money, time and materials.



I have thought about that, and I think there was decision on doing that (earlier in the topic). I would lose my closet if I did that and my power comes up in the back corner there so I would have the breaker box in the bedroom then. I am going to be the only one living here so I don't really have to worry about other people.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on October 18, 2010, 09:18:56 PM
I was doing some more playing around with my floor plan again, I just can't leave it alone. Here is a new idea

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/layout2010V13.jpg)

I might have enough wire to make it to the laundry area for my main panel or I could just buy a new service wires to make it there.

Thought and comments? I am probably going to go with a stack washer and dryer so I will have extra storage room in there and I could get a wardrobe instead of a closet.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on October 25, 2010, 07:36:00 PM
Here is a picture of some progress finally:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/5cd6b6eb.jpg)

I pulled the door out of the one end hence the raw OSB and torn house wrap, I am going to replace the wrap. I added my eve and gable extensions. I decided I am going to square cut all my rafter tails.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: mogie01 on October 28, 2010, 06:07:26 PM
Quote from: Taylor on October 18, 2010, 09:18:56 PM
I was doing some more playing around with my floor plan again, I just can't leave it alone. Here is a new idea

I might have enough wire to make it to the laundry area for my main panel or I could just buy a new service wires to make it there.

Thought and comments? I am probably going to go with a stack washer and dryer so I will have extra storage room in there and I could get a wardrobe instead of a closet.

Taylor, is there any way you could combine the laundry area with the bathroom?  This would give you a nice big bathroom, you could make a closet in the bathroom for the washer/dryer and water heater. 
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on October 28, 2010, 06:25:04 PM
Well I have been staying in my extra bedroom in my house while I have been remodeling my master and I really have not been enjoying having to walk out of the bedroom to get to the bathroom, so bathroom access would be great from the bedroom so I have came up with this plan:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/House/layout2010V14.jpg)

Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: mogie01 on October 28, 2010, 06:48:44 PM
I like it!
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on October 28, 2010, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: mogie01 on October 28, 2010, 06:48:44 PM
I like it!

Thanks mogie01

I have really been having a hard time figuring out my floor plan.
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Redoverfarm on October 31, 2010, 08:25:24 AM
Taylor I looked at your recent photo of your eve extensions and it appears that you had shingled the roof prior to.  Maybe just an illusion but normally the shingles are weaved from the edge of the roof to the other portions. If this is the case it could cause you problems down the road with leaks or the eve and gable sagging over time seperating the two shingled areas.   ???
Title: Re: Small House in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on October 31, 2010, 09:02:43 AM
On the roof. I did weave the new shingles into the old ones just like it would have been if I would have done the whole roof at once. On the gables I pulled the cut shingles out and weaved the new shingles in.

Thanks

Taylor
Title: Re: 14x24 1 story in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on December 12, 2011, 08:22:33 PM
I am still here...

I thought I would update this since I have been working hard to finish it up. This building has gone through lots of changes and some people may think I am crazy or nuts but life changes so the building did too. I pull the two buildings apart so I have a living area and a nice shed to store stuff in. Now time for some pictures:

My current layout:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/houseplan.jpg)

Kitchen layout:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/1c0e14b8.jpg)

Outside, just need to put up fascia:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/45ad1210.jpg)

My doors:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/ca1a8f24.jpg)

Some drywall pictures:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/5461bf36.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/4ddf954a.jpg)

I got my shower pan liner installed, just got to water test and mortar over it, but I thought I would throw down some of my floor tile to get an idea, going to have white subway tiles on the walls:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/4da0b5d5.jpg)

I am hoping to get the backer board up in the shower this week and hopefully finish up mudding and sanding drywall.
Title: Re: 14x24 1 story in Northern Arkansas
Post by: Taylor on February 19, 2012, 09:37:25 PM
I got the drywall done and textured and painted:

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/3e47d2b1.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/14cd810a.jpg)

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/tbasinger/dd01ca12.jpg)

I am going to work on the tile in the shower next.