I'm going to start posting about my little cabin I started building last year. I will start from the beginning until I catch up with were I'm at.(https://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/Minermatt/-4-7-2008039.jpg)
Here is the foundation. Poured the concrete on a cloudy day in Febuary used the concrete blocks for part of the walls. Should of poured a footing then set the blocks and then added in the slab. But live and learn I guess.
I see you learned quickly how to post images. :)
[cool] Where is this? Near Mariposa?
About 1 mile North of Glenn. Can't see his hidden place though. But I can hear him d*
I worked at a saw mill for awhile and was ablie to pick out some premo Ceder for the frame .Built it in my yard when I lived In Twain Harte. Was going to do it all by hand until I drilled my frist hole for the Mortise and tenons.Figured that would take to much time and it would wear me out . But I did cut the joints by hand.(https://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/Minermatt/-4-7-2008105.jpg)(https://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/Minermatt/-4-7-2008100.jpg)(https://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/Minermatt/-4-7-2008090.jpg)
Note the stack of red wood in the back gound of the frist picture this is what was left of 15,000 bf that I got for .26 a board foot. To good to be true the guy wanted it out of his yard lucky me [cool]
Nice joints, Whitlock. :)
Quote from: Whitlock on October 01, 2008, 12:46:35 AM
About 1 mile North of Glenn. Can't see his hidden place though. But I can hear him d*
I'm noisy...Moi ??? That's what they tell me in the off topics too.... I just can't get no respect. :)
Wow.... deja vu....
Nice work though. That is the same type mortise and tenon joints as used in the Trabucco warehouse. They were remarkably tough.
Looks like some old tools to go with the old technology too. I like it.
Quote from: glenn kangiser on October 01, 2008, 01:16:45 AM
Quote from: Whitlock on October 01, 2008, 12:46:35 AM
About 1 mile North of Glenn. Can't see his hidden place though. But I can hear him d*
I'm noisy...Moi ??? That's what they tell me in the off topics too.... I just can't get no respect. :)
When I get my Stampmill up we can drowned each other out c* Hope the neighbors don't mind ;)
We have neighbors? hmm
Funny how noises go for miles around here.
We did lose some neighbors after the fire :(
More on the cabin. My wife didn't like me building it in are front yard but it was the only place big enough at the time. Using the modular processes I was able to work on it after work and I got it done in a few weeks. I then hauled it to the site and erected it in about 5 hours. I had the plates already bolted to the foundation. I pegged the bents together and stood them up added the top plate and the structure was in place and sturdy. One suggestion do not stand the bents up without some help I did this and it got hairy a few times.(https://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/Minermatt/-4-7-2008089.jpg)
This is a barn beam boring machine. Works good if you need your hole to be perfectly square to the timber d*
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Ready to stand up :)
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It's up [cool]
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More later,Whitlock
Very cool. You have alot of patience to work the wood the old way.
Nice to see the details, Whitlock.
His place was one of the ones I was sure was gone in the fire. I was really relieved when I called Carla - the former CHP with a badge bigger than the Sheriff's who tried to run her off, and found that Whitlock and wife remained at her place and helped the firefighters save his house also.
Not worded well but you get the picture. d*
Quote from: Whitlock on October 01, 2008, 12:57:21 AM
I worked at a saw mill for awhile and was ablie to pick out some premo Ceder for the frame .Built it in my yard when I lived In Twain Harte. Was going to do it all by hand until I drilled my frist hole for the Mortise and tenons.Figured that would take to much time and it would wear me out . But I did cut the joints by hand.(https://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/Minermatt/-4-7-2008090.jpg)
Note the stack of red wood in the back gound of the frist picture this is what was left of 15,000 bf that I got for .26 a board foot. To good to be true the guy wanted it out of his yard lucky me [cool]
Really like the way you did that, Whitlock! You can do a few of those for us :) ;)
Are you kiding Sassy,You know Glenn dosen't like anything to be square [crz]
Quote from: Scott A on October 01, 2008, 04:26:22 PM
Very cool. You have a lot of patience to work the wood the old way.
That is so true and you know all the knots just have to line up were you have to chisel out a mortise ???
Huge amount of respect to anyone who works with wood this way [cool]
Looking great so far and can't wait to see the progress =)
~A~
Whitlock...
Do trees all grow square and plumb? hmm
Guess I got you on that one. [crz] d*
Wow, beautiful work! It's been too wet the past week to work on my cabin.. :(
Quote from: glenn kangiser on October 01, 2008, 10:29:07 PM
Whitlock...
Do trees all grow square and plumb? hmm
Guess I got you on that one. [crz] d*
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Well Glenn they may not all grow square But, some do :)and there are plumb trees.
[slap]
rofl rofl rofl
I can see this guy's gonna be trouble..... [panic]
Nice Joints!
Well now that I have Glenn straightened out about trees we can get back to the cabin :)
I used lumber that I had salvaged from a old house in town to frame in between the timber frame this is the only place in the frame that I used nails insted of wooden pegs. It didn't give the stucture any more suport. It only helped in putting in the windows and doors.
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I used a open mortise and tenon on the ridge conections of the rafters and then wooden peged them together and then to the top plate. No ridge beam at all (the way the oldtimers did it in about the 1700's) Then I added in the purlins half laping and peging them to the rafters.
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That's real cute, Whitlock. I hope you used square nails. ::)
I admire your patience for that work, Whitlock. Mighty fine. You're going to drag this out (revealing the photos) as long as you can, aren't you. ;D ;D I can tell the finished product looks great.
He said he has lots of photo's. d*
I'll bet he does. :) ...and I don't blame him for playing the tease.
Don the cabin is not finished yet (will it ever be probably not ;D)I do have it to the dry in stage. Will be working on it more this winter.As for square nails Glenn, yes :) I also have about 15 pounds of 6p squares that I'm going to use for the interior.My wife thought I was crazy for buying square nails off of e-bay [crz] I think she might be right heh
More later i have to go finish digging a french drain,Whitlock
Square nails were available as cut concrete nails at Coast Hardware but were new made on the old machine. I also bought a half cigar box full of old nails off of Ebay a few years ago. d*
Could we both be [crz] hmm I seriously doubt it. :)
Siding time. I looked at siding down at Home depot and Lows in the valley. Just couldn't bring my self to buy any.
Thought about resawing some 2x12 Redwood that I scored in the Santa Cruz mountains a couple of years ago. After resawing one of the 2x12's I decided that it made them a little on the thin side for my liking so I used them the way they were. Yes 2x12 clear vertical grain redwood siding and roof sheeting. Now you all know I'm crazy heh. The catch is I bought 15,000bf of it for .26 a bf a couple of years ago [cool] I realy wanted to build something with it, and the amount of money I had in it, made it the cheaper than any siding I could buy.( I know I over build everyting) So it became my roof sheeting and cabin siding.
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Some of the roof sheeting has knots in it ???
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That's knot a problem is it? :)
Knot unless one falls out and lands in my dinner d*
Wood that bother you? hmm
Knot unless it wasen't a square meal [hungry]
Whitlock I think you surpassed me when it comes to patience. The only exception was that you could make yours square and I had to take mine the way they were made 100+ years ago. Are you going to use a batten strip to cover the joints in the siding?
Yes I'm going to put the battens on this winter. Redoverfarm I once built a cabin like yours. There was a old cabin on forest servise land that was to be burned down. I found out about it from my girl friend that worked for the F.S. I went though all the proper cannels to see about getting the cabin and restoring it. Got the door slamed in my face every time. So i said the hell with it and me and my dad numbered all the logs and moved it to my place. All that was left of it was the walls. They were hand hewn 8x10's with dovetailed corners. I was abile to put it back up with in 6 months. Wish I had a picture :( Went to work one summer down in the valley and when I came back someone had burned it down >:( Was it the F.S? I think so [toilet]
As for patience you have me beat by a long way :)
Take care,Whitlock
FS and BLM are our number one arsonist and vandals up here when it comes to destroying history so the public can't have it.
I know of 3 places personally on private land where they broke in and destroyed private property. They got shot at on one. Junker working for them had his trailer vandalized on another- later he found out they had no right there. I have heard of one place where the FS vandals were shot and eaten by hogs. :o
The other they kicked the doors off the cabin - vandalized it and likely were preparing to burn it when caught by the owner. It took him 2.5 years in court to get them to agree he owned it - their excuse-- they were using an old map....
Infiltrated by radical environmentalists, the public agencies are trying to take public lands away from the public. It used to be un-Constitutional when we were under the old Constitution. Under the current dictatorship, it is not a big deal.
Quote from: glenn kangiser link=topic=5331.msg 67837#msg 67837 date=1223137688
FS and BLM are our number one arsonist and vandals up here when it comes to destroying history so the public can't have it.
I know of 3 places personally on private land where they broke in and destroyed private property. They got shot at on one. Junker working for them had his trailer vandalized on another- later he found out they had no right there. I have heard of one place where the FS vandals were shot and eaten by hogs. :o
The other they kicked the doors off the cabin - vandalized it and likely were preparing to burn it when caught by the owner. It took him 2.5 years in court to get them to agree he owned it - their excuse-- they were using an old map....
Infiltrated by radical environmentalists, the public agencies are trying to take public lands away from the public. It used to be unConstitutional when we were under the old Constitution. Under the current dictatorship, it is not a big deal.
What the heck are you trying to hijack my thread for political gain rofl rofl rofl
What Glenn has stated is true the feds are a joke around here.
As for the man feeding the dead guys to his pigs this is true also. It seems that the forest service was giving him a lot of crap about the road he used and part of his trailer was on F.S. land 2 feet to be exact. So they took it upon them selves to go to his house and burn it down. Little did they know he was siting on the floor with a sawed off shotgun in the dark weighting. When they came threw the door he shot and killed both of them, Drug them to the hog pin and though them in. He went to court and won!
Now can we get back to my little cabin,Whitlock
You said FS....... I couldn't help it. [crz]
...and don't forget - I'm not political. I'm anti-authoritarian. :)
Good for gramps, eh? ::)
Criminals acting under color of law are still criminals. >:(
Dang -- I did it again. d*
Whats up next with the cabin? hmm heh
Whitlock:
I just want to congratulate you on such a handsome cabin project. The exposed timber and thick redwood sheathing and siding will make this a 100 year building... barring acts of God, vandals or government.
Well back to the cabin. After all the siding and sheeting was up it was time to get the roof on. I wanted to put a tin roof on but doing it by my self would of been a mess on a 12/12. Also at are local S.P.C.A thrift store they had a half pallet of forty year comp for $5.00 I couldn't pass this up. I did have to buy the ridge from a supplier.But I still wish I would of put a tin roof on it ??? O'well I can do that later.
The cabin is going to have a loft, full or half I have not decided yet ???
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Here is a picture with the roof on and the windows in.
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One of part of the interior.
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Beautiful work!
Amazing work.
I can wait to see what the interior looks like.
[cool] building, Whitlock.
Here is a picture of the cabin last winter in the snow. I think this was the last day I worked on it.
Going to start back up today. Have to barrow a angle head drill from Glenn to drill the frame to run the electrical wires.
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That looks beautiful. Where are you located???
He's up the road from me about a mile. Hopefully he's having a great time drilling holes to his heart's content right now. ::)
Got all the holes drilled thanks to Glenn and his mountain of tools :)
Peteh2833 I'm just up the road from Glenn about a mile. Can't see him but I can hear him
Now to run the electric heh and then insulation.
That was a lot of snow for this area [cool]
Take care,W
Glad I was able to be of service. I know you will feed us soon.... heh [hungry]
I am sometimes a noisy little rascal. ::)
Sometimes to Glenn means if he is awake.
As for the meal lets shoot for Thursday night. Hope you like venison [hungry]
Yes.... [hungry]
I'm sometimes even loud when I'm sleeping.... d*
My photo bucket won't let me post pictures >:(
It says copied when I click on the link but when I go to paste it is not there ???
Any suggestions :-[
I have been experiencing the exact same thing recently. Try doing a right-click on the IMG link, then select copy from the drop down menu. (assuming you are on MS Windows).
Government computer tampering.... ::)
More likey from my tampering Glenn. It is fixed now all I had to do was hit it in the right spot heh heh
Was gone for a couple of days picking up some natural resourses to use on the interior of the cabin.
Going to post some pictures soon [cool]
I was hitting mine for several weeks or more until hitting it wouldn't work any more. Downloaded the HP repair manual free and fixed it in about 15 minutes or read and do repair. Screen cable came unplugged.
I'm waiting..... :)
Here's the pile of natural resources I tore down yesterday and hauled home [cool]
I'm going to use the old lumber for the interior of the cabin.
Don't you love recycling heh
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So -- I hope you saved the tin too. What a neat place -- I could have lived in that as is. d*
so, if i am understanding you correctly... mr. i can build anything from nothing couldn't check his computer cable plug in? c*
Dang it, Dan. heh
It was a monitor cable buried deep in the bowels of the computer under the switches and keyboard. [crz]
I knew it was coming loose and hitting it in the proper fashion would jar the plug back into the socket for a few hours of relatively uninterrupted viewing. [crz]
A frenzy of beatings could restore it again and again until finally I was forced to get out the book I printed out for just such a future emergency. [deadhorse]
Why would I even consider learning where all of the hidden screws and latches were to get the keyboard, switch panel, memory and memory cover, etc all out of there to fix it properly until all was lost it it was impossible to resuscitate it with chest compressions and electroshock therapy? hmm
d* d* d*
Worked on the trim around the windows and the front door today.
Fells good to get back working on it again [cool]
I will be putting up the old barn board tommarrow. Hope to get some pitures 8)
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Glad to see you are motivated, Whitlock. d*
Your an inspiration to guys like me. Hopefully mine can come out looking half that nice. Thanks for keeping me pumped with these great pics.
It's always good to have a door! :D
Quote from: MountainDon on October 28, 2008, 12:44:19 AM
It's always good to have a door! :D
Or two Don.
I'm thinking about painting the front door white to match the windows.
What do you guys and gals think ???
???
How weathered will the wood door get, unpainted? Will that be a PITA for upkeep? Here in the desert anything other than paint on wood can be a maintenance nightmare. Up in the mountains the heat from the sun is less but it still is hard on clear type finishes.
Paint on the door would tie the appearance together. ???
I'd probably paint it. It's not as if you didn't have any exterior wood other than the door. :D
I'm with you Don,that it would tie the appearance together.
The bad part is it took me two days to take the white paint off of the door when I got it and now I'm thinking of putting it back on d*
As for the weather I'm going to add a rap around porch someday.
Quote from: Whitlock on October 28, 2008, 11:18:41 AM
took me two days to take the white paint off of the door when I got it and now I'm thinking of putting it back on d*
You'd be applying a vastly superior grade of new paint though, wouldn't you? :D
That paint I took off definitely lightened up the door. Should of kept it to cast bullets out of heh
Hey Whitlock,
Not a white door fan but there is a picture gallery of a cedar board and batton cabin when you bring up
the home page of this site at the top of the page named Update and click Ca Cabin It has a front white single door with half glass and at the other end a double french door. It does look very nice but I'm thinking that the door you have wouldn't look as well as a regular painted door that has a smaller glass not the french panel type. Take a look and let me know what you think.
Thanks,karnaf That helped the two cabins are very similar.
Worked on the interior today putting up the old, twisted,bowed up, not square,barn board.
Until I ran out of square nails >:(
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Here is the back of the cabin watch the first step out of that door heh
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You need an ore car framework going to it. [idea]
Whitlock,
Also, you could paint the trim around the windows and door along with the door the same color.
I saw a small cabin that had dark green trim and door and look great. Check out the owner-building
projects here and look at the posting of the 30'x40' Earth Berm Solar House in Central Maine by
BishopKnight. Check out the little cabin 12x16 he built before he starts his big cabin.
We have light tan vinyl window frames. We're likely going to paint the exterior window trim that same color, as well as the door trim and the door itself. The siding will be a green approximately the same shade as the gazebo. Then we'll repaint the shed to match tying the whole place together.
Probably. Nothing is certain until we do it, and then it's subject to revision. ::)
Been working on the cabin the last few days. Don't have many pictures though, camera ran out of batteries.
I built the mallets in this picture for this project. They are made out of a old mulberry branch. The one on the right made it though this part of the build that mulberry was surprisingly tough d*
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The local building inspectors showed up ;)
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It's the little things that makes cabins fun :)
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Maybe more tomorrow,W
Is tht a genuine "oldie" knob and plate? Or a repro. I like it. :)
It is genuine [cool] Took it off of a old house that was built in 1870 or so the owner said. I tore the house down for the parts before it finshed falling down. I need to paint the key hole black, Don't I d*
Or get a genuine mortise lock for the door; might have to hunt for an operable oldie, though.
There's a company that still makes them, Marks, but they're pricey. Still made in the USA. Uh-oh, I just remembered, they're made for a modern day tumbler lock. I have a couple, used in steel security doors.
Quote from: Whitlock on November 07, 2008, 12:32:14 AM
It is genuine [cool] Took it off of a old house that was built in 1870 or so the owner said. I tore the house down for the parts before it finshed falling down. I need to paint the key hole black, Don't I d*
I would just drill out the key hole, but not all the way through.
We still have the old skeleton key to my grandmother's home. Someone moved in and it burned down after over 100+ years of service :(
Whitlock you can get the mortise lock sets to go with your handle at www.vandykes.com.
Finshed some trim up today. I just can't get used to that door. Maybe there are too many windows and that door adds to them?
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Quote from: Redoverfarm on November 07, 2008, 04:49:39 PM
Whitlock you can get the mortise lock sets to go with your handle at www.vandykes.com.
Thanks for the info.Some day I will get to cover my block work with rock like you have on your place.
Your place is really looking good you must be proud.
Some day I would like to bye a kit home from Stone Mill log homes.I really like that stile. Building one like you have would also be a option if I could ever find another one to take down and move.
Most in this area are too far gone or have historical landmark signs on them :-\
Quote from: Whitlock on November 08, 2008, 12:47:17 AM
Thanks for the info.Some day I will get to cover my block work with rock like you have on your place.
Your place is really looking good you must be proud.
Some day I would like to bye a kit home from Stone Mill log homes.I really like that stile. Building one like you have would also be a option if I could ever find another one to take down and move.
Most in this area are too far gone or have historical landmark signs on them :-\
Yes they are going fast. Still some hidden around covered in siding. If you were intrested there is a guy close to my house that has a buisness that deals with them. He has shippped them all over the US. He has a P&B barn set up now that he hasn't sold in a year or so. Seems everyone is looking for houses and not barns.
Here is a couple of sites that deal with them. The first is the one I was referring to above. There is a picture of the P&B in the inventory portion of the sites.
http://www.antiquecabinsandbarns.com/
http://www.vintagelog.com/
I was eyeing up a old barn not far from the house. The guy was from out of state that bought the property. I kept waiting for him to come in to stop and ask about it. One day I went past and he had came in. He also brought in a bulldozer and leveled the barn before I could talk to him making a site for a steel building. Nothing left now but splinters. What was he thinking d*
I need money heh Those are some cool sites!
The cabin is really looking nice, Whitlock! One of these days I'll have to make Glenn bring me up there for a visit!
I really like that doorknob, too!
Beautiful work Whitlock!
I lived in a house for a while that was built back in those times. It really makes you appreciate what people did back then.
I'm starting to think about building my house this way also. Going to use a chain mortiser this time.
Using the old tools was fun but a lot of work.
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Cool Whitlock any idea of the cost?
Here is a store for all your Timber framing needs.You can shop around and get better deals sometimes.
Unless you are going into buissness I would buy the Makita tools they are a lot cheaper.
http://www.timberwolftools.com/tools/makita/M-7104L.html
WOW now yer barkin!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another whole world of POWER TOOLS :)
There some well though out tools there!
EXPENSIVE :o :o , but nice. 8)
Welcome Peg
I would be barking if I bought some of those tools alright.
My butt would be in the dog house.
When the time comes they will be mine even if I have to bark for awhile [cool]
I love that attitude.... ::)
...but ouch --- that is expensive.
Yeah, Whitlock... any idea of the cost? How much does that fancy barking Tim-the-Tool-Man-Taylor thing cost? ;)
Whitlock, the little lady is prying into your deepest thoughts..... [slap]
Just so everyone knows the mafell only costs........$2609.00 a bargin at that price. :)
I have attend several timber frame workshops and helped a buddy build a timber frame house. Lots of fun and lots of work. I will say I have used this machine and it saves a lot of work, but I like the Makita better it costs less ($1275.00) and is more like a plunge router with a base. Either one definately cuts down on the time it takes to rough out a mortise. You still need to finish things up with a hand chisel.
Quote from: Flutterby on December 03, 2008, 01:27:42 AM
Yeah, Whitlock... any idea of the cost? How much does that fancy barking Tim-the-Tool-Man-Taylor thing cost? ;)
Looks like Flutterby needs to cut out a couple of mortises by hand [waiting] before I will be abile to buy one :)
Haven't posted on the cabin in so long.Though I had lost it ???
Payed the property off today ;D The guy was a little pissed he missed out on a lot of intrest [cool]
Hope to start drilling the well soon,seems like eveyone is on vacation so I will see after the first when they can get out here :-\
Glenn came over tonight for tacos and to help me with the wireing in the gest house.
We looked under the gest house for the frist time ever. No floor joists ???just 2x materal layed flat with a continuous footing in the center :-\ And the darn thing is built on a tailing pile from the mine d*
Now I have seen it all,W
The tacos were great...
I'd feel a lot better if I hadn't found the barbecued potato chips before I went over there. [crz]
Quote from: Sassy on November 08, 2008, 01:04:33 PM
... One of these days I'll have to make Glenn bring me up there for a visit! ...
Sassy,
Maybe next time, if you "ask Glenn nicely", you'll get there faster . . . :)
All she will have to do is put a lock on the freezer so he can't get to his ice cream. Then she will have complete control.
Did I just type that :-\
Have you done anything new that we want to know about or see pictures of? I love timberframes :)
Mostly working on the interior Jens. Not much to post yet but as soon as I finsh and clean it up I will post something :-\
Quote from: PA-Builder on December 30, 2008, 09:00:30 PM
Quote from: Sassy on November 08, 2008, 01:04:33 PM
... One of these days I'll have to make Glenn bring me up there for a visit! ...
Sassy,
Maybe next time, if you "ask Glenn nicely", you'll get there faster . . . :)
Should I make her grovel, PA? hmm
Quote from: Whitlock on December 30, 2008, 10:17:48 PM
All she will have to do is put a lock on the freezer so he can't get to his ice cream. Then she will have complete control.
Did I just type that :-\
That's it -- I'm outa here... [waiting]
Now you just made me get out of my chair and go to get a bowl of Ice Cream.... [hungry]
Now if I could just figure out how to get motavated on my cabin or mill again?
Had to go play in the back yard today-
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I love this old church built in 1929
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It must have been built well; much straighter than any 80 y.o. building in my area!
So, your location on your profile says up the road from glen, but your sons name is Sonoran, on here. Are you in Mariposa? Or does up the road from glen mean farther? I lived in Ione for a while, worked the phone lines from Jamestown up to Plymouth. My wife grew up in Stockton.
Just curious.
Quote from: Whitlock on December 30, 2008, 11:56:05 PM
Mostly working on the interior Jens. Not much to post yet but as soon as I finsh and clean it up I will post something :-\
Clean up? [rofl2]
As if that is actually necessary.
I'm 3 miles north of Glenn. I own the Whitlock Mine. Look it up on the net. ;D
Well I'm having the well drilled we are at 175ft
Hopefully water soon [waiting]
You never know but someting inside me makes me think we will hit water at 285ft
Fingers crossed,W
G/L on that. Want to start a pool. ;)
I say 266.
I was hoping to hit water at 20 feet but :-\
The driller said the ground is loose and easy to drill. This is hard to believe all the ground I have ever drilled and blasted around here was hard,hard,hard. Soft ground should be good for water I would think ???
Glenn will be over tomarrow to make sure the water is drinkable.
I want to go have a look at the rotary rock driller. I only drilled with cable tool.
This will be cool. :)
5 gallons a minute at 385ft not bad for this area. I had them drill the well to 500ft so it will recover quicker and have more storage [waiting]
Anyone out there have a solar pump on there well? I'm thinking of using one and would like some advise.
The driller is a nice guy. He and his son dropped by the Underground Complex today for a tour. He drilled our well before we bought the property.
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No leads on a solar pump ???I have been looking at the Grundfros solar pumps. Does anyone use one of these?
http://www.genproenergy.com/grundfos_sq_flex.html
I installed the solar for a grundfos in Hornitos, and it worked great. As I recall we put in 320 watts of panels wired in series for about 100 volts pumping. It filled about 2 2600 gallon tanks in a few days or less - didn't monitor it that close. It was a customer from hell and I only did the solar frame and panels.
Too much work lately. I haven't been working on the timber frame for some time now.
What I love about this forum is it gets you motavated to keep working on your projects [cool]
With the way thing are going around here I need to get it done soon :-\
Quote from: Whitlock on May 23, 2009, 01:22:47 PM
#1: Too much work lately.
#2: I haven't been working on the timber frame for some time now.
#3: What I love about this forum is it gets you motavated to keep working on your projects [cool]
#4: With the way thing are going around here I need to get it done soon :-\
#1: Thats a good problem to have I think?
#2: Planning is in ways working , you've been thinkin on it I'd guess.
#3: Yes it does help with that some. Do you need a nudge ? Maybe a kick in the ............... ;)
#4: Sooner might be better , but whats the rush or your need to get it done soon? Your not gonna sell it are you??
How about a few photo's of some details or sketches/ doodles you might be kicking around? Maybe that will get you moving? We'd send money , thats generally the slow down for me. Plenty of ideas , no disposable / spendable on extras , cash d*
Not selling that is for sure.I will always have a income here in the mine no matter what happens in this messed up world.
I might need one of Pegs #3's
I have lots of building materials to get the job done.
I have been kicking around the idea of adding on another room with a shed roof and a rap around porch?
Guess I need to get my butt in gear d*
Mother Nature has takin over d*
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That's what I get for sitting around to long :-\
They will do it everytime.
LOL, too funny :)
A Robin is doing that in the gable eaves I didn't finish framing...
This is the third year for mine on the same porch post. The mother has been a little aggrivated this past week as I set my tile saw near her nest.
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I would love to see some inside pictures. I want to do the same thing - using the old barn/house for the inside. I would love not to have any drywall - anywhere.
Quote from: smcdaniel345 on May 27, 2009, 09:45:17 PM
I would love to see some inside pictures. I want to do the same thing - using the old barn/house for the inside. I would love not to have any drywall - anywhere.
Old barn boards are a lot of fun and a lot of work. You have to dig though the pile to find just the right bowed up not square board. Then you cut the bad end off and try to make it fit. I love rustic and the fact that I'm recycling ;D
I hate dry wall also heh
Some pictures of the inside for you all. Might try to take some more later some turned out to dark?
I finally have finshed the walls and trim.
Next I'm going to start working on the loft and sanding the old barn board to make it show the saw marks better.
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Looks great though the white plastic chair looks a tad out of place.
Looks nice, Whitlock, so when you moving in?
Now that's a cabin. It looks great and the reclaimed wood makes it even better. Hope the inside of my cabin looks as good.
So do you have any plans to cover the concrete block on the inside? And what about the floor?
Sassy I would move in tomarrow but I would be alone.Need to get the kitchen and bath done for Flutterby.
As for the block and floor Poppy. On the inside I'm thinking about faceing the block with wood with riveted metal straping.
The floor will be covered with wood flooring or the oak 1/2x3's boards found in wine barrels.I have a friend that buys wine barrels bye the thousands.He cuts them in half for use as planters.The oak boards that are inside go to the dump so I might save some and try to make flooring out of them. Thay are staned from the wine and when planed a little the oak has a wonderful redish color.
Here is a better picture [cool]
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Before anyone gives me a hard time about my 100 plus year old unlevel door. The hinge pins are wore out d*
Been working on the loft.Glenn helped me resaw some 6x6's into 3x5's with his little sawmill and I built the beam saddles for it out of my pile of resources.Time to think about a set of stairs or a ladder ???
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I really like the rustic look you achieved. Almost looks historical. :)
Yes, I concur with Scott. Very beautiful and rustic. Great job Whitlock!
Puts my 12x16 to shame :( ;D
I'm sure you already saw it, but just in case, there is a loft ladder design in the Free Stuff thread.
You do really nice work and that cabin will last a long, long time. It's a good lesson for all of us on what real house construction can be.
Thanks for the complaments Guys!
Worked on the loft some more today had to have Glenn resaw me a 6x6 to complete the loft.
Poppy I haden't seen the free stuff
Thanks,W
I'm not crazy about the black metal hangers , what can you do with those ??? Maybe take them down and use a torch to burn off the paint and accelerate the rusting process :-\
They just don't "fit" that interior , you've spent so much time pegging M&T joints .
Are you happy with them? I think thats what really matters here, I just sort of hate to see the "pure" look get compromised.
Glenn milled those summer beams for you?
No offence, just my comments.
Quote from: PEG688 on July 03, 2009, 11:02:34 PM
I'm not crazy about the black metal hangers , what can you do with those ??? Maybe take them down and use a torch to burn off the paint and accelerate the rusting process :-\
They just don't "fit" that interior , you've spent so much time pegging M&T joints .
Are you happy with them? I think thats what really matters here, I just sort of hate to see the "pure" look get compromised.
Glenn milled those summer beams for you?
No offence, just my comments.
To tell you the truth I have been waiting for a post like this [waiting]
I know what you mean peg. I'm not too sure about the black eather. Though about heating them up and giving them a hammerd look by working them over on my anvil.Then they would fit in better. Being a metal worker by trade I had to do it. I think of them more like hardware on a piece of furniture. I was also worryed about notching the cedar bents in the center.
Like you say "When in doubt,build it stout with something you know about"
Glenn milled all the 3x5 joists and a 6x6 that I added today
Your comments are always welcomed,W
I learned a neat trick from a Czech blacksmith for wrought iron. He would spray paint it with satin black, and while it was still tacky, dust it with powdered graphite. Once dry, you hand rub it. The high spots take somewhat of a dull shine, with the low spots and recesses being flat black. It gives the illusion of something old that has been handled a lot, like a hand rail in a park or something.
Whitlock you are doing a great job. I have to agree with Peg as far as the black look. It would be a PIA to take them down now that the timbers are set in. You might consider finding a finish color that you can tape off and spray to replicate the hammered rusty finsih. I searched a little and came up with this.
http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=180
http://www.krylon.com/products/outdoor_spaces_hammered_finish/
QuotePoppy I haden't seen the free stuff
I was referring to the "Free Stuff for Designers and Builders" on this board.
Well I got most of the 3/4 loft finshed. I ran out of reclaimed 2x12's. I'm sure I will find some soon :-\
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Hey Whit I noticed that the 2X12 appear to be rough sawn. Did you plane the loft surface for the floor. If you didn't I am sure that wife will let you know when it comes time to walk or clean it. ;D
It's rustic, John. :)
::) that's just an excuse [waiting]
You have to clean a cabin? :o
Actually, I would like to know the answer to that question as well. I have some rough sawn cherry for the main floor and I figured to at least run it through a planer once.
Quote from: Sassy on July 11, 2009, 11:30:22 AM
::) that's just an excuse [waiting]
No, it's a lifestyle... [waiting]
If you cover the floor with pecan hulls no one will know the difference. Now that's rustic. :P
Quote from: Redoverfarm on July 11, 2009, 10:31:41 AM
Hey Whit I noticed that the 2X12 appear to be rough sawn. Did you plane the loft surface for the floor. If you didn't I am sure that wife will let you know when it comes time to walk or clean it. ;D
I have been looking for old reclaimed flooring but none yet. I might leave it ruff and sand it with a floor sander ???
Quote from: Sassy on July 11, 2009, 11:30:22 AM
::) that's just an excuse [waiting]
An excuse for what ???
Well Sassy [waiting] [waiting] [waiting] [waiting]
Glenn already stated it "it's a lifestyle" d*
Quote from: Sassy on September 07, 2009, 05:31:03 PM
Glenn already stated it "it's a lifestyle" d*
Glenn has a life style?? Rustic or just rusty c*
Ya Glenn tell us about the rusty stuff you have been dealing with [waiting]
Without rust, life has no purpose.
I got lots, collecting more...... working on that nice new rusty crusher now. :)
Quote from: glenn kangiser on September 09, 2009, 01:49:55 AM
Without rust, life has no purpose.
I got lots, collecting more...... working on that nice new rusty crusher now. :)
New Rust ???
New Rust- It's about 10 miles north of Rust. I think it's in Michigan somewhere.....
http://www.finehomebuilding.com/item/9344/official-rules-timber-frame-photo-contest
you should post your progress photos in this contest!
Quote from: glenn kangiser on September 09, 2009, 01:49:55 AM
Without rust, life has no purpose.
I got lots, collecting more...... working on that nice new rusty crusher now. :)
Glen puts the "rust" in rustic ;)
Thanks for the complament Bobmarlon. I just might do that 8)
Just got notice today that I have to move by april [frus]So within the next 4 months I will be working my a$$ off getting the bath and kitchen done d*
Sometimes In life it takes a little push to get moving I sure didn't need that much of a push though [waiting]
NO MORE RENT [cool]
Quote from: Alasdair on September 30, 2009, 04:16:36 PM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on September 09, 2009, 01:49:55 AM
Without rust, life has no purpose.
I got lots, collecting more...... working on that nice new rusty crusher now. :)
Glen puts the "rust" in rustic ;)
Thanks, Al... don't forget, I'm crazy too... [crz]
and BTW, the New Rusty crusher is now working quite well, thank you. :)
Quote from: Whitlock on November 30, 2009, 07:13:50 PM
Just got notice today that I have to move by april [frus]So within the next 4 months I will be working my a$$ off getting the bath and kitchen done d*
Sometimes In life it takes a little push to get moving I sure didn't need that much of a push though [waiting]
NO MORE RENT [cool]
I was a little concerned by your opening line and was fearing that you would have to leave that great little house but I was relieved that you will be moving into it rather than away from it. Seems that our family had moved about 7 times in my youth and all were long distance. I wouldn't know what it would be like to just move a short distance. Anyway when push comes to shove you have a good neighbor that will lend a hand I am sure. Just have to keep the outside stuff outside and the insides stuff inside. ;D
Red this is the shotest distance I have ever had to move only about 3000ft. Right now I live at the neighbors rental.
I'm kind of glad to be leaveing in a way it will make me get stuff done that I have been putting off.
The only problem is money But when isn't that a problem ???
Looking forward to seeing some more work done on that fine cabin Whit.
Sorry to hear of your terrible weather. ;) You had taken notice of the stairs I was building on Dogtrot. In case you missed my post I did get them installed and they give you an idea of what the finished product looks like. They are @ http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=3613.msg105743#msg105743
I will take a look 8)
Quote from: glenn kangiser on November 30, 2009, 08:52:35 PM
Quote from: Alasdair on September 30, 2009, 04:16:36 PM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on September 09, 2009, 01:49:55 AM
Without rust, life has no purpose.
I got lots, collecting more...... working on that nice new rusty crusher now. :)
Glen puts the "rust" in rustic ;)
Thanks, Al... don't forget, I'm crazy too... [crz]
and BTW, the New Rusty crusher is now working quite well, thank you. :)
Hey Glenn today I learned rust is the same as patina so only remove as little as posable or you might lower the value of the peace heh
I didn't remove any of the rust... just added new parts - OK - I took it out of the bearings.
BTW, I may be a bit slow to get back once in a while as it looks like I am working for about 3 weeks. [ouch]
Quote from: Whitlock on November 30, 2009, 07:13:50 PM
Just got notice today that I have to move by april [frus]So within the next 4 months I will be working my a$$ off getting the bath and kitchen done d*
Sometimes In life it takes a little push to get moving I sure didn't need that much of a push though [waiting]
NO MORE RENT [cool]
What's the status of your cabin Whitlock?
Wow sorry Red looks like I left you hangin "August of 2010" :(
Lots to post!!
Wish I would of keep up with my posts >:( It is fun to look back and see what and when I got things done.
For now the cabin is no were near done and we haven't moved.
When I get some time and I will post what I have been building.
But not until Glenn brings Sassy over for a look [slap]
Later,W
Yeah, I gotta get Glenn to take me over [waiting] Sounds like you have a nice garden there, too :)
Quote from: Sassy on November 08, 2008, 01:04:33 PM
The cabin is really looking nice, Whitlock! One of these days I'll have to make Glenn bring me up there for a visit!
I really like that doorknob, too!
Well Glenn [waiting] 2008 was awhile ago :-\ Do you need gas money ???
Quote from: Sassy on January 15, 2012, 12:22:38 AM
Sounds like you have a nice garden there, too :)
We had a wonderful garden this year. I pulled most of it in November getting ready for the winter. I left the tomato plants becuse they were still putting on fruit. Thinking I would have to pull them soon I stopped watering them. Well just this Thursday I took 85 tomatos off 3 plants and the dang things are still flowering and produceing.
What a crazy year no winter yet.
One of the best crops this year were the gofers and I'm still getting plenty.If you want some let me know we have more than we can use.
I must of planted my garden on a village of them!