Don and Peter's Hot Rod Corner

Started by MountainDon, February 13, 2007, 12:55:02 AM

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glenn-k

Here's an electric add on - I guess that would take the exercise part out of it though.



and gas,



http://www.spookytoothcycles.com/

and other sources

http://bicycle-power.com/gas.html

I wanted on of these years ago - found an antique one but someone else bought it first.

I did manage to get a gas powered lawn mower though - one of the first in the world or at least very early.  Brought it up here to the Underground complex a few weeks ago.  It is about a 1925 ATCO from England and is powered by a Villiers motorcycle engine.  Good story goes with it also.

MountainDon

#101
Quote... powered by a Villiers motorcycle engine.  Good story goes with it also.

All right! You're sitting there waiting to see how long it's going to take before someone bites and says.... "Go ahead! Get on with the story!"  ::)

My first thought on seeing the electric bike was to think "OOOh I want one. Then, why? I ride for exercise... Maybe so if I go too far I can have the assist coming back? No, it's just that if you put a motor or engine on it I'll want it. More the so if it's not commonplace.


glenn-k

Actually I did use the time to continue getting dressed so I can go do something.

I found the mower in an antique shop.  Seems I  was listed in an antique engine magazine as having te capability of making parts for old engines years ago.  A fellow from England contacted me about that and I asked him about the mower.  It was and ATCO started by Chas Pugh Co. in 1921.  He said the company was still in business and volunteered to get me information on it.

In a few weeks he sent all the information at a pretty good cost to him.  A great old fellow.  In it I found that Chas Pugh owned a foundry.  He had a large estate and used a mule to pull his reel type mower around mowing the huge lawn.

Unfortunately the mule died and Mr. Pugh was in need of a way to get the lawn mowed.  He commissioned his staff at the foundry to  design a gas engine powered lawn mower for him.  Apparently it was about 1921 that they made the first model.  Mine is likely no later than 1925 and looks very much like the first model.  Mine was running several years ago and I assume I can still get it started.

http://www.atco.co.uk/our_history.html


MountainDon

Wow! Cheap to run too. 7 cents worth of electricity. But how much do 990 Li-Ion cells cost?


glenn-k

#105
Not to mention on another video linked from that one - he fried a motor with the Li-Ion batteries -- had fire shooting out from between his legs - and not from cabbage. :-/  Wonder what that cost. :-?

benevolance

dunno about any of that

But just put a transmission in a *&^%$ Saturn...And now that the bleeding has stopped in my hand I am about ready to own an electric vehicle... ;)

cannot be much worse than wrenching on gasoline pigs


benevolance

Read about these a while ago on a high tech site....Quite ingenuitive


Amanda_931

And not just for the high performance cars--although the picture looks cool if weird.  Backhoes and forklifts can use them profitably.  Nice idea.

glenn kangiser

Looks to me like all that flexing would break them but I guess not. :-/
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MountainDon

#111
Some people don't deserve to have a 4WD



video  here...
http://mojoflix.com/Video/How-an-Idiot-Drives-a-Jeep-Uphill.html

more insanity... driver's stupid; once it starts to bounce all kinds of bad things can happen. Usually u-joints or axles break, if you're lucky... if you're not lucky....

http://mojoflix.com/Video/Woman-In-Jeep.html

The blame on this next one is partly on the spotter IMO

http://mojoflix.com/Video/Jeep-Rolls-Back.html

glenn-k

Last one looks like a combination - driver also kept going when it looked like things were not right, but the spotter definitely sent him the wrong way.

MountainDon

We have a guy in our 4WD club who is an amazing spotter. I'd trust him with my life any day.   :o Oh! I guess I have.  ::)



MountainDon

You'd be safe going for a ride with me tho', no matter what those posts way back look like.






Sassy

#116
Yeh, right!  :o ;D  Does your wife ride with you?  Glenn used to go 4 wheeling & has had his mom in tears - she was wedged in-between Glenn & his brother... those pictures look like you are doing the impossible!  :-/

MountainDon

#117
Her knuckles have turned white several times and it's a good thing I'm used to her shrieks or it might be distracting.   :-/   I think her fingerprints are permanently impressed into the steel grab bar on the old Jeep.

That Utah sandstone offers very good traction. The surface is something like 120 or 150 grit sandpaper and the surface doesn't rub off like some inferior grades of sandstone in other places. Done slow in a Jeep like mine with an automatic tranny and locking differentials front and rear, a sensitive right foot balanced with the left on the brake it actually is almost easy.

That's not to say I haven't held my breath for incredible lengths of time or given my sphincter muscles a workout.

glenn-k

Ahhh - a fellow fourwheeler who knows what it's like to chew a hole in the seat cushion.  Didn't even realize there were teeth there. :-/

GunPilot

QuoteSome people don't deserve to have a 4WD



video  here...
http://mojoflix.com/Video/How-an-Idiot-Drives-a-Jeep-Uphill.html

more insanity... driver's stupid; once it starts to bounce all kinds of bad things can happen. Usually u-joints or axles break, if you're lucky... if you're not lucky....

http://mojoflix.com/Video/Woman-In-Jeep.html

The blame on this next one is partly on the spotter IMO

http://mojoflix.com/Video/Jeep-Rolls-Back.html

That last one is the Escalator in Moab.  I've declined to do that one (so far) in my Ramcharger...  but here's my buddy Flake in the same obstacle.  He needed a little winching to correct it.  He knew when to stop though.



My junk in Moab:




glenn kangiser

I made my mother cry doing stuff like that.  I knew the road was still there if I turned right at the top -- she didn't.  I think she thought we were going to launch.  :-/

That was at New Idria, above the Aurora mine.
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MountainDon

#121
Peter, the Utah sandstone is very "sticky" stuff. Superb traction! Mostly it appears to be worse, more scary, than it is. Mostly.   :)  Air the tires down for a nice big flexible footprint (my 32 x 11.5 x 15's get taken down to 15 lbs for "normal" 4-wheeling and 11-12 lbs. for the more challenging; I used to run my 33's on my CJ down to 8 lb.  Bead lock wheels are available to prevent tire/rim separation.) Not making any sudden moves is a big part of the safety factor. If new to the trail do a lot of walking, getting in and out to check things out. A guide is always a good thing for a first time more difficult trail/obstacle. Sometimes what looks like the logical route is not. In Moab the Easter Jeep Safari is a good way to get introduced to their trails. Big crowd though.

What Scout do you have? an 80, 800 or a II? I had a 1980 (last year made) Scout Traveler with the wonderful Dana 300 transfer case. Real heavy tho'. Auto or stick? I now like an auto best tho' I must admit to having a certain fondness for a granny first gear stick.

What kind of locker? I've had Lock-Rites and Detroits, but the last two Jeeps have had ARB's F&R and I love them, except for the price tags.   :(
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

MountainDon

#122
Peter, FYI, If you ever come across a 1980 Scout junker grab the transfer case. '80 was the first (and only year for the Scout) that the Dana 300 case was made. It has a lower low-range than the previous model 18 & 20  cases. They're also sought after by guys with Jeeps and other 4x4's.

They can be modified to a twin stick arrangement where you can select either front or rear axles individually or together as is normal. With a locker in the front sometimes it's nice to be able to select only the front axle or to de-select it while in low range. Just some additional info to clutter up your mind, if you already weren't aware.

I don't like cleaning up after a mud bath   :-/  not that we have much here very often, once in a while after a monsoon.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

glenn kangiser

#123
Peter - instead of putting a hard PTO out the back, why not put a hydraulic pump on the PTO then power everything with hydraulics.  
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MountainDon

Jeepers Glenn, you're always thinking... full of ideas!  Going hydraulic, instead of a long shaft and so on might actually be safer as well. I had an uncle who lost a couple fingers to a tractor PTO, way back.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.