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Title: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on January 13, 2017, 10:10:13 AM
About a year behind schedule, but very excited to have begun!
Our location is in the foothills of South Carolina, on a small 184 acre lake.
We have an RV set up, under cover, with an attached 12 x 20 tiny cabin with a full bath, laundry, and bedroom....so we have been able to enjoy
week-long stays at the property for the last year and a half. Time spent building docks and such, and delays that slowed down the lot clearing for the cabin
had put us behind schedule.
We broke ground on 01-11-17 and the foundation should be complete by 01-18, thanks to an excellent contractor.
We plan to do as much of the rest of the building ourselves, but are leaving the option of hiring a framer open.
To say that we are excited is a huge understatement....been looking forward to this for a long time!

(https://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss17/snarted/Cabin%2001-13-17/foundation%204_zpsdxwrwzwh.jpg) (https://s557.photobucket.com/user/snarted/media/Cabin%2001-13-17/foundation%204_zpsdxwrwzwh.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: ChugiakTinkerer on January 13, 2017, 12:05:34 PM
Congratulations on breaking ground!  Looking forward to seeing more as things progress.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: Mike 870 on January 13, 2017, 04:38:48 PM
Congrats, looking forward to seeimg it progress.
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Post by: CabinNick on January 13, 2017, 10:51:49 PM
Exciting.  Do you have a floor plan you can share with us?
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on January 14, 2017, 07:49:37 AM
We have plans that we purchased, but the floor plan won't be exactly as drawn.
We'll have one bedroom at the back of the main floor, and the kitchen at the front, so the wife will have a lake view from the sink and a
pass-thru window to the front deck (outdoor kitchen).
We'll have a full loft. Loft front will be split into two rooms...my ham shack and the wife's craft room...both with lake view. Back of the loft we plan to leave
open. We may figure out some way to make the rear of the loft a little more private, for temporary bedroom use. Haven't figured that out yet.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: CabinNick on January 14, 2017, 11:55:42 AM
Sounds great.  Look forward to following your build. 
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on January 22, 2017, 04:33:25 PM
Block has been laid. Perimeter and piers at the same elevation. I met with the inspector to approve 2x10 joists, dbl 2x10 (x 40') beams atop the piers, and run the joists the 20' way in 3 sections...face tied to the beams with joist hangers. I'm also running a full length sill plate atop the piers, spanning the gaps, screwed to the bottom of the beams/girder. Can't be used as an actual ledger, but gives me piece of mind. 2x10 is overkill...but I like overkill.
Got all of the sill plates down and most of the rim joists before getting rained out.

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Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: Bearmech on February 08, 2017, 02:21:09 PM
Nice Job! [cool]
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Post by: NathanS on February 08, 2017, 02:41:55 PM
Nice looking foundation. That floor is going to feel rock solid.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on February 08, 2017, 03:32:38 PM
Got about half the joists in last weekend. Hope to install the rest and get the subfloor down this weekend.

(https://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss17/snarted/Cabin%2001-13-17/found1_zpsekumbp28.jpg) (https://s557.photobucket.com/user/snarted/media/Cabin%2001-13-17/found1_zpsekumbp28.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on February 08, 2017, 03:35:17 PM
Oh.....The wife put two coats of paint on the block...she's a keeper...this was on our 22nd wedding anniversary.  (Yes...I took her out for a nice dinner afterwards)
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: duncanshannon on February 09, 2017, 03:55:38 PM
Nice work! Great looking site!
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on February 15, 2017, 02:26:23 PM
02/11/17...the subfloor goes down!

(https://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss17/snarted/Cabin%2001-13-17/subfloor021117_zpsuvtf9mzy.jpg) (https://s557.photobucket.com/user/snarted/media/Cabin%2001-13-17/subfloor021117_zpsuvtf9mzy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on February 15, 2017, 02:29:38 PM
02/15/17

Gang notching the 2 x 6's.  Found out real quick that a 4" grinder takes a LOT of the work out of this process!

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Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: Don_P on February 15, 2017, 02:57:27 PM
... You found the secret weapon  ;D
Coloring a little outside of the lines, it works even better with one of the stiff flat sanding wheels and a road tar grit disc. That is one way I clean up tenons as well.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: ChugiakTinkerer on February 15, 2017, 07:15:35 PM
I take it that is that for balloon framing a loft?  Very useful tip, thanks!
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on February 15, 2017, 08:16:14 PM
Quote from: ChugiakTinkerer on February 15, 2017, 07:15:35 PM
I take it that is that for balloon framing a loft?  Very useful tip, thanks!

Yep!
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: GaryT on February 16, 2017, 10:26:37 AM
Nice work!  Wondering if you're going to put anything over your dirt floor?
Gary
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on February 16, 2017, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: GaryT on February 16, 2017, 10:26:37 AM
Nice work!  Wondering if you're going to put anything over your dirt floor?
Gary

Yes! I actually intended to install a full liner "before" installing the joists...but time and logistics didn't allow it.
The liner manufacturer is actually within 45 minutes of our location.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on February 20, 2017, 08:53:05 PM
Had a bit of help this weekend...got a LOT done! The wife and I raised the first 12' x 12' wall section ourselves...and it was a bear! We were glad to have my older brother show up to help the next day!
Also had the inspector out to have at look at the progress...since I've never built a house before. He didn't find anything wrong...just stuff that was way over built (which is my nature).
I made one major mistake. When marking the studs for the ledger notches....I went to the wrong side of my first mark. So...we'll now have 8'-5.5" ceiling height....LOL! No worries since we went with 12' tall walls we still have lots of loft room. That's what I get for trying to pre-cut stuff at my metal fab shop when I shouldn't try to split my mental time between business and cabin build.

(https://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss17/snarted/Cabin%2001-13-17/20170219_141231_zpsxw4m8hnx.jpg) (https://s557.photobucket.com/user/snarted/media/Cabin%2001-13-17/20170219_141231_zpsxw4m8hnx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: Rys on February 21, 2017, 07:36:23 AM
Wow! You guys are really making great progress!   [cool]
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: ChugiakTinkerer on February 21, 2017, 01:49:06 PM
Your exceedingly tall visitors will appreciate the head room, I am sure.   :)
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: icanreachit on February 21, 2017, 07:32:12 PM
Nice header framing on the door! Did you do this for better insulation? I remember seeing it in a book on balloon framing and can't remember if it was to reduce how much wood you use or for better insulation. Cheers
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on February 24, 2017, 05:58:04 AM
Quote from: icanreachit on February 21, 2017, 07:32:12 PM
Nice header framing on the door! Did you do this for better insulation? I remember seeing it in a book on balloon framing and can't remember if it was to reduce how much wood you use or for better insulation. Cheers

Not really, just didn't finish it due to lack of lumber.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: Rys on February 24, 2017, 04:44:24 PM
Thought for sure you were posting more pictures when I saw you'd been on here.    :(
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on February 24, 2017, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: Rys on February 24, 2017, 04:44:24 PM
Thought for sure you were posting more pictures when I saw you'd been on here.    :(


Hahahaha!...not yet. Heading back down in a few. Just interior wall building and window/door framing this weekend.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on February 28, 2017, 08:08:27 AM
Forgot to take progress pics this past weekend...but I got the mid bath walls framed, framed the closet area in the bedroom, and the walls where the stairs will be.
Kinda slow going due to the fact that I shot 1" of a 3.25" framing nail into the end of my left middle finger! Waited till Sunday evening to go get x-rays (they though it may have grazed the bone) and a tetanus shot.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on February 28, 2017, 08:24:17 AM
Here's our floor plan...

(https://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss17/snarted/Cabin%2001-13-17/cabin%20plans_zpspuakmi48.jpg) (https://s557.photobucket.com/user/snarted/media/Cabin%2001-13-17/cabin%20plans_zpspuakmi48.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: Rys on March 01, 2017, 06:50:31 AM
Interesting bump out for the stairs. I like it!

How's the finger today? Sounded ouchy!
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: Don_P on March 01, 2017, 08:06:23 AM
It looks like you can steal closet in the MBR from under the stairs?
One way to think about a framing nail, that was half a .22, tends to pith one off  d*. What one doc said when we sent someone in is that bone is similar to wood in that the nail usually doesn't shatter bone, it tends to punch a hole and not do too much damage. I've hit the bone in one finger and had a number just go into the meat. (Keep the holding hand at least nail length away, you never know when a nail is going to fishhook out of the wood and SYP is the most prone to that) That finger where the nail hit the bone took a long time to "come to", it really rings its bells. A friend hit the main nerve in his hand, that you don't want to do.
A hipped porch roof over the decks would be nice.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on March 01, 2017, 08:23:15 AM
Quote from: Rys on March 01, 2017, 06:50:31 AM
Interesting bump out for the stairs. I like it!

How's the finger today? Sounded ouchy!

Finger is fine....side effects from the tetanus shot were worse, still sore where the shot went in after 3 days.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on March 01, 2017, 08:35:06 AM
Quote from: Don_P on March 01, 2017, 08:06:23 AM
It looks like you can steal closet in the MBR from under the stairs?
One way to think about a framing nail, that was half a .22, tends to pith one off  d*. What one doc said when we sent someone in is that bone is similar to wood in that the nail usually doesn't shatter bone, it tends to punch a hole and not do too much damage. I've hit the bone in one finger and had a number just go into the meat. (Keep the holding hand at least nail length away, you never know when a nail is going to fishhook out of the wood and SYP is the most prone to that) That finger where the nail hit the bone took a long time to "come to", it really rings its bells. A friend hit the main nerve in his hand, that you don't want to do.
A hipped porch roof over the decks would be nice.

Hmmmm?...didn't think about stairwell closet access from the MBR...good idea!

We'll probably do a shed roof over the deck that's parallel to the kitchen since we plan to have an outdoor cooking area there. The window on that side will be a slider to act as a pass-thru from the kitchen.
That area will have evening shade, opposite side will have morning shade...it gets hot there in the summer. Front deck is tree shaded and faces the lake.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on April 03, 2017, 07:08:29 AM
Catching up on the progress pics...been BUSY!

We hired a local crew to frame and sheath the roof after my second injury (ribs)...best $1500 I've ever spent!

The wife and I were TIRED after doing our part, framing it from the block to the loft floor.

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(https://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss17/snarted/Cabin%2001-13-17/cabin0402171_zpsrtmo0zkg.jpg) (https://s557.photobucket.com/user/snarted/media/Cabin%2001-13-17/cabin0402171_zpsrtmo0zkg.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: CabinNick on April 03, 2017, 09:12:43 PM
Looks great.  Looking forward to seeing pics of how your stairs worked out in the bump out - hadn't thought of that when scratching my head on how to fit code stairs in. 
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Post by: TarMetto on April 04, 2017, 07:32:44 AM
Quote from: CabinNick on April 03, 2017, 09:12:43 PM
Looks great.  Looking forward to seeing pics of how your stairs worked out in the bump out - hadn't thought of that when scratching my head on how to fit code stairs in.

I'll try to get a good pic of the stairs this weekend.
I really like the way we did it. The stairs are actually 42" wide (my preference).
The bumpout measures 11' x 5' and allows for a small foyer. There will be a sliding barn door to close this area off when we have no need to heat/cool the upstairs. Not an ideal seal
but we didn't want a door at the top of the stairs.
Title: Re: Our 20 x 40 1-1/2 story finally begins!
Post by: TarMetto on April 04, 2017, 09:48:44 AM
This is the exhaust hood that I'm building for the kitchen island.
Rigidized stainless body with a brass finish, trimmed in real brass.
We're also using the Rigidized for the backsplash behind the counter top throughout the kitchen.

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