PWF foundation question

Started by GW, November 08, 2007, 07:54:41 PM

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GW

I'm thinking of using a PWF crawlspace foundation because it looks easy for me to do myself. Does anyone know if it needs to be designed and stamped by an engineer? I'm going to be building the 20x30 1 1/2 story, location is in the Southern Cariboo in B.C. I think if I have to get an engineer involved it might not be worth it, any thoughts on this?

MountainDon

I'm certain we'll have some replies on this. But first a question to clear up the question a little.

Is this proposed structure going to be permited, inspected, etc? If so your best resource will be your local building inspection authority. If they say you must have it engineered, then that's what you'll need to do. Or do it some other way that they will allow you to do.

Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.


GW

Unfortunately it does have to have permits. I checked our building codes today and this is what I found."Preserved wood foundations are to be designed and inspected by a professional engineer, registered to practice in the Province of B.C., unless such foundations, including lateral supports, conform to CAN3-5406, "Construction of Preserved Wood Foundations". The problem is I can't find any reference to CAN3-5406, I do know that alot of people do have PWF in B.C. I appreciate any info.

glenn kangiser

I think this PDF has all of the requirements of the code or should give you an idea of what they want.

If you ask they may let you build it to this or tell you if there are any changes.  Looks like the whole one is for sale a few places for $20 to $70.

://www.townofunity.com/permits/preservedwoodguide.pdf
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MountainDon

That PDF is more than likely the very thing GW needs. If you look at the document it states....

"The following information required for the construction of Preserved Wood Foundations
(PWF's) is based on [highlight]CAN[/highlight]/CSA [highlight]S406[/highlight]-M92, "Construction of Preserved Wood Foundations"."


The [highlight]S[/highlight] in [highlight]S406[/highlight] could have been misread as [highlight]5[/highlight]406 somewhere along the line.   :-/  Or that could all be coincidence.

Lots of info there.  :)

Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.


glenn kangiser

I'm also thinking that may be the case or it's an earlier copy - usually there are not many changes in something like this.
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GW

I think your right about 5 being an S, that would explain why I could not find any information. Thanks for the help.

MountainDon

Anytime!  :)  We try to help out.  :D
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

desdawg

I never cease to be amazed at how you guys lay your hands on this kind of information. I am impressed. Maybe I will have to become a G :o :oGLER meself.
I have done so much with so little for so long that today I can do almost anything with absolutely nothing.


glenn kangiser

For that one Itried the exact wording of the title - complete then went through the results.

Put your Googles on desdawg, so you can see how we do it.  Just be sure you don't grab the beer Googles.  Makes it hard to see. :-/
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desdawg

No beer here Glenn. Gave all that stuff up about 20 years ago.
I have done so much with so little for so long that today I can do almost anything with absolutely nothing.

glenn kangiser

#11
Yeah -I drink one or 2 every month or two.  Just gives me a headache and the sniffles.   Guess I'm allergic to the preservatives.  :-/
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peter nap

When I was in college, I had one in each hand most of the time.
When I had kids, I slacked off to one or two a year.
When I got old........well, I drank a beer at the Celtic Festival a couple of weeks ago.......and fell asleep :'(

glenn kangiser

You are right up there with me.  I usually have a beer or malt cooler in the fridge but it stays there most of the time because I don't want to fall asleep. :-/
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MountainDon

#14
No preservatives in home made beer.

Just as sleep inducing though.

I do love a frosty icy cold bottle in the summer after a hard days work. Just before my nap, of course.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

glenn kangiser

I think if I make it again sometime I would like to sprout my own barley seed rather than buying concentrated malt.
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