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Title: Addition / deck details .
Post by: peg_688 on March 16, 2007, 10:02:22 PM
Little addition and some deck details for you all to look at .

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Mar16Chambers9.jpg)


 (https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Mar16Chambers.jpg)


Notice the nice crisp line of shingles going up that roof  line ,  8-)

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Mar16Chambers1.jpg)



(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Mar16Chambers2.jpg)

 


(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Mar16Chambers3.jpg)



(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Mar16Chambers4.jpg)



(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Mar16Chambers5.jpg)

In the last two photos you can see I changed the detail a little , the old had a fillet type carraige , on a open deck I don't like that detail , it holds water causing rot.


Miter's all biscuited and glued ,

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Mar16Chambers7.jpg)

Stairway area to be cont. on Monday.

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Mar16Chambers8.jpg)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: Sassy on March 17, 2007, 12:11:29 AM
Beautiful!  I'm sure the people you are building the addition  & deck for, are really pleased  8-)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: glenn-k on March 17, 2007, 12:21:35 AM
Extremely nice project as we have come to expect from you, PEG.
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: peg_688 on March 17, 2007, 12:24:02 AM
 Yes so far it's going great they do tear out and clean up at night to save $$.

Inside we've pulled out a bathroom wall, kitchen wall , dinning room wall , and upstairs we torn out a bathroom and are adding two .  Quite a over all project , two of the lower level walls where bearing so we put in two new beams LVL's , well really three one beam is  a dbl 3 1/2"x 9"x 17' so a total  7"x 9" beam  witha flush ceiling so we had to hold up the  2nd floor/ roof , cut out the floor joist , put the new beams up into the pocket , post under  , to direct bearing beams in crawler / to the footings , and hang all the joist off the new beam.

We also added a powered room , and a utility / laundry room in the garge area .

The other beam is 3 1/2" x 9" x 14' , but it under the existing joist so it was a bit less complicated to install.

Going to be quite a improvement to the overall house.  Pretty complicated to descrbe all we've done , but not many rooms in the org. house are the same .

Thanks Sassy :)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: MountainDon on March 17, 2007, 01:08:10 AM
Hey PEG, just that one picture "Miter's all biscuited and glued" says it all! Superior craftsmanship and attention to detail. I hope those folks are cognizant of how great a job you are doing for them. The rounding of the edges, the little inside corner fillet,; it's superb! PLUS, I really like the bevel cuts on the bottoms of the posts as detailed in the fourth photo. Chopping them off square is oh so much more common.
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: desdawg on March 17, 2007, 07:28:22 AM
Wow!  :o Nice Work.
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: peg_688 on March 17, 2007, 09:50:29 AM
Thanks , Hey Mtn. D did you notice the Alaskan yellow cedar bung / plug used to cover the screw hole , what few that are visible in photo's   5 and 8 I beleive.  In the side of the rail / 2x6. Also note there are no fasterners down thru the top of that rail , all screwed from underneath, no where for water to get in and discolor , rot that R. Cedar cap. ;)

 The home owners a at home woodworker so he see's most of the little details , great folks to work for  :) They are very happy with the remodel / addition.

I don't think they are tired of the mess yet as progress has been pretty fast and thier decission making is a little behind they're pretty busy tryin to keep up.

 I figger some of you will pick up style / detail points from some of these photo's and use them on your own places. Sort a fun to think how many folks will learn / use something , a detail / way to do some thing from this website  :)

Might even be good for the ego, but I don't think that totally why I post / do this. Just tryin to keep up with Glenn ;D    
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: glenn-k on March 17, 2007, 10:14:58 AM
G/L PEG ::)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: MountainDon on March 17, 2007, 10:19:38 AM
I noticed the plugs PEG, but was having a devil of a time figuring out the species.    ::)

Also noticed the posts look like they grew right out of the decking. It's all very nice.
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: peg_688 on March 17, 2007, 10:31:05 AM
I'll need it Glenn , thanks  8-)

I like the color contrast of the dissimilar wood bung / plugs .  And as  bonus in this load of 80 2x2's of Red Cedar can 2 each, Alaskan Yellow Cedar 2x2's . I'm not sure how that could happen in a lumber mill that 2 piece of 2x2 could be milled / bundled and shipped out of two different types of wood , seems odd , but hey it's a bonus in a way , so why try to figger it out. Just except it and use the wood for plugs , maybe that why I got that bundle of 2x2 's I was about out of Al. yellow in the shop 8-)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on March 21, 2007, 10:12:30 PM
Here's the almost finished stair a few deck skirt boards and details to finish up , and some of the inside beams , walls , and the in general mess of remodeling ;D

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(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept17010-1.jpg)


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Rafter in the addition,

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Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: MountainDon on March 21, 2007, 10:45:33 PM
I think I could drive my Jeep up those stairs; plenty stout!!   :)   and an oak beam!

As per usual, I love it all.
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: glenn kangiser on March 21, 2007, 11:55:59 PM
Thanks for the pix and details, PEG. :)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on March 22, 2007, 12:14:39 AM
Thanks , ya the stairs are stout , built outta something I know about  ;)

On the stairs per code locally we have to use 2x materials for treads and the stair horse have to be 12" OC or less. A bit over built for a short stair , but say we have 10 or maybe more treads , a long run of stairs and two guys are delieving a sub zero refer , or a big party and the stairs get loaded for some reason so a lot of moving weight , so thats the why of the 12"oc , etc .  A bit of overkill for this short run , but code is code and common reasoning/ sence  must be abandoned  :-X

I was trying to show how I attach the horse's to the platform mostly , although each stair has it's own conditions where they attach that methord sort of can be changed / copied / adapted to fit / work for others.

Ah no Oak beams on the job Mtn. D the ridge beam is a Fir gluelam and the other beams are LVL's (Laminated veneer lumber) the Oak your reading , maybe  :-/ is Oak Harbor the town that the beam was delievered to. The local lumber yard , Frontier Industries  , has 7 or so stores so Frontier : Oak Harbor tells the driver which Frontier to drop it it .

 Not , Space the final Frontier,  either Glenn ,  ::)peremptive strike,  just in case you where thinking about the Klingon chick again ;D  

   
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: John Raabe on March 22, 2007, 01:16:25 AM
Craftsman at work... :)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: glenn kangiser on March 22, 2007, 09:41:43 AM
Ahh - fond memories, PEG.  Thanks. :)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: John_M on March 22, 2007, 01:12:35 PM
Great Job PEG!!  Love the photos......I am really excited because I have decided to change my siding from all cedar shingles to cedar beveled siding and shingles.

I have been try to get a few photos for my wife to see what I was talking about and now that she has seen it, she loves it!  What did you or they use for window trim?  Brick molding maybe?
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: MountainDon on March 22, 2007, 01:32:21 PM
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Oak Harbor tells the driver which Frontier to drop it it .
That does make a lot more sense.   :-[

I have duly noted the stair horse mounts.   :)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on March 22, 2007, 08:10:45 PM
Quote

 What did you or they use for window trim?

 Brick molding maybe?


The windows are white vinyl , no trim .

The  Dbl.  door , exterior has standard brick mold on it.

Glad the photo's where helpful.

And yes we did the siding.

Thanks , PEG
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: John_M on March 23, 2007, 05:07:45 PM
Forgive my "lack of knowledge" here PEG, but what then what do you do around the windows to seal them from water?  Do you just use that flashing tape around them and then butt the siding against them.  Then caulk the siding where it meets the window?

Just curious.....getting ready to do mine and thought I had it figured out and then I saw the pictures and...well here we are...asking questions again!!

Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on March 23, 2007, 08:12:21 PM
Pretty much , we Typar the wall , or felt , we  cut the Typar at the top as per the Grace vycor booklet , at  angle from the window hole , and up and away 4" or so, flip that tab up set the window on the Typar , plumb and level. Then Vycor across the botton extending 4" or so past the window , do the side from 4" above the window down over the bottom strip , then do the head over the window flange and over the side tape , flip down the Typar tab and your done.

This job was back caulked , just before the siding in put up a bead is run on the corner brd and the window frame , siding is set into that wet caulk , try for very little squeeze out.

Tip don't cut the siding to tight , if you have to bow it out and spring it in it will push / or crack that window frame .

G/L PEG    
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on April 28, 2007, 10:55:42 AM
D/W's hung , folks are painting walls and ceilings, we got the Red Cedar T&G ceiling up in the addtion yesterday ,

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 (https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/ChamberceilingApril27th.jpg)



Went up pretty well , looks good  8-)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: MountainDon on April 28, 2007, 08:27:28 PM
QuoteWent up pretty well , looks good  8-)
Yes, it does look good, even if you do say so yourself!!  ;D ;D  I think I'd like some of that here.  :)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: Amanda_931 on April 28, 2007, 08:55:46 PM
The intersection of wood and drywall sure looks smooth.
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on April 28, 2007, 10:03:33 PM
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The intersection of wood and drywall sure looks smooth.



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 Went up pretty well , looks good  8-)


Yes, it does look good, even if you do say so yourself!!  ;D ;D  I

Amanda :

It is smooth  8-) No trim , trim is fer sissy's  ;D


Mtn .D:  

Just repeating what the owner , and my boss said Mtn. D.   And I've been told and have heard

[highlight] "It ain't braggin if you can do it!" [/highlight] ;)

And althought Bear creek didn't supply the lumber , they do have a ad I like  ;D

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept17-1.jpg)

 

 
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: MountainDon on April 28, 2007, 10:21:33 PM
QuoteIt is smooth  8-) No trim , trim is ....

Ya' only need trim when you use a chainsaw.    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on April 29, 2007, 09:06:46 AM
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Thats  would be Glenn dept. I don't do much chain saw work  ::) ;D
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: glenn kangiser on April 29, 2007, 10:35:25 AM
When you use a chainsaw, you don't care about trim.  :)

Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: Sassy on April 29, 2007, 11:32:02 AM
Again, looks beautiful, PEG  8-) - everything is perfect.  

BTW, what hand sign is the guy in the Bearcreek Advertisement flashing?  Just wondering...
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on April 29, 2007, 11:56:15 AM
QuoteAgain, looks beautiful, PEG  8-) - everything is perfect.  

BTW, what hand sign is the guy in the Bearcreek Advertisement flashing?  Just wondering...

I duknow either it's some new wave / current rock groupie thing , or the ole Texas hookum horns thing  :-/ ;D

BTW that guy in the photo could be the brother(looks wise) of one of the guys who works with me right now.  ;D

I just like the "idea " that we carpenters  SHOULD  be looked at like rock stars , ya know without all the hype and nasty glamour  ;D  
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: glenn kangiser on April 29, 2007, 12:39:24 PM
I think carpenters should all be like Batgirl.   :o

It would make the workplace more enjoyable, and still shows that can-do problem solving, obstacle overcoming attitude.  

No problems, climbing walls, fear of heights, staying on roofs, etc. :)

(https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/glennkangiser/56070.jpg)

Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: MountainDon on April 29, 2007, 02:39:57 PM
She can work on my roof anytime.  ;D
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on May 25, 2007, 12:11:02 AM
 Few more stair/ deck  details ,

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(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May24th6.jpg)

Doesn't that 12" Hardi look lovely  ::) Wavy , bumpy cement brd $$$$hit >:(

Oh well you people seem to like it :'(

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May24th7.jpg)

Odd deck , roof over head will rest on those 16' Cedar posts , beams hung between , in HUC hangers , hard as heck to get perfect alignment with hangers in a row like that :'(

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May24th8.jpg)

Diagonal Bracing due to Treks not adding much for racking strength, another man made product I could live without ::)



(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May24th9.jpg)

Stair horses we gottum , 11" OC , 7 ea. another challenge to cut 7 identical jacks and install them 11" apart.  No room for error , or it shows :-[  (https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May24th11.jpg)

Anyone need weeds ??


(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May24th13.jpg)

We stomped um down some , well after we ran the weedeater ::)

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May24th14.jpg)

Heres a year old ZMAX  A35 , see the corrosion the white hairs , gonna be a problem with all this ACQ stuff sooner or later , and it looks sooner to me  :o

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May24th16.jpg)


(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May24th18.jpg)

I will take no credit for these horses / jacks , the boss cuttum last years  :'( :'( ;D


Heres what the architect drew for the horse to deck connection , it a sort of PITA with the hangers on the end two corners , you have to compensate for them , the metal ,  or the inner jacks / horses will not line up.

It is a good solid way to attach , he didn't have the hangers in his detail,  I added those ;).

 (https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May24th21.jpg)


Heres the year old Trek treads   and cedar risers , Trek just doesn't look good to me , but TK Cedar is getting so crappy it's almost not useable , Ipe , and Purple heart are getting popular around here.

 

 
   

 
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 25, 2007, 12:17:35 AM
I don't like the plastic boards either.

As for the Hardy - house next door has it -- caulked ends now have about 3/16 gaps between all of them.
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: MountainDon on May 25, 2007, 12:34:00 AM
Love the detail shots PEG. Thanks especially for the hanger bracket method on the stair horses. And once again; marvelous collection of horses... I know it's WA code, looks like overkill, but I'd certainly feel secure  treading on those Trex.
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on May 25, 2007, 12:41:11 AM
QuoteI don't like the plastic boards either.

As for the Hardy - house next door has it -- caulked ends now have about 3/16 gaps between all of them.


Cant be it doesn't shrink, swell, chip nor peel ::) ::) Ya right and Vinyl siding doesn't fade either ::) I got nice pair of bridges I'd like to sell you ,




(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d1/Deceptionpass_bridge2.jpg/800px-Deceptionpass_bridge2.jpg%20 )

Not even a toll bridge but if in you buyer you kan maker one  ;D
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: desdawg on May 27, 2007, 07:34:36 AM
That homeowner should be a happy camper. Very nice work.
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on May 27, 2007, 09:40:21 AM
Thanks Dawg :)  But ya never know  ::) Thier both  Professor's of architects so we'll see what teachers sez at the end O the month when they get up here.

Hopefully I will have earned another sail on  Tappan Zee

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Aug22nd14.jpg)


Here's Peter , the home owner , and I , in the red jacket last year on Penn Cove ,

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept1146.jpg)

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Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on May 27, 2007, 10:39:43 AM
Glenn asked me to clear up / answer a few questions , here's the deal , when you get invited to go sailing it suggested you bring a few things ,

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept1127.jpg)


The beer on the right is non acholic  for me , I used to drink like a sailor , well I was a sailor so it was expected  ;D

But the pizza was pretty good , I got two can openers which was a really good thing cuz when I opened the package one fell right clean thru the dock boards  , perfect strike  ::) never even touched the sides , nope right friggin thru to the drink thank you  :-[ :'( ;D

  We where sailing on Penn cove which is well right in Coupville , Wa.


(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept1129.jpg)



or is Coupville in / on Penn Cove  :-/  

And as a reminder ,

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept17-1.jpg)

Thank you , thank you very much!!

Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 27, 2007, 01:16:21 PM
I guess that would have been a good day no matter what -- beer or no beer. :)
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: paul s on May 27, 2007, 02:45:30 PM
The hand sign is I love you, livednear a school for the deaf once.

paul
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on May 27, 2007, 03:21:31 PM
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The hand sign is I love you, livednear a school for the deaf once.

paul

Might be , Glenn had other ideas  ::) From what I gather from the younger set it means "Rock on!" as in rock and roll music forever, or some such , YMMV  ;D
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 27, 2007, 06:59:56 PM
I'll leave it to Wikipedia to explain.

QuoteRock and Heavy Metal Music

It also has a variety of meanings in heavy metal and is known by a variety of terms: devil sign, devil horns, goat horns, metal horns, metal sign, throwing the goat, evil fingers, Pommesgabel (Pommes = fries, Gabel = fork), mano cornuto, peka evil, the horns, also "Rock Fist" or Rock on "Visel" in some U.S. rock music subcultures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corna
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: Amanda_931 on May 28, 2007, 09:40:46 PM
Runners on first and third?
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: John_M on May 28, 2007, 09:51:26 PM
Two outs?????? :-?
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: Amanda_931 on May 28, 2007, 10:32:11 PM
that's it
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: Huggles on July 21, 2007, 08:12:05 PM
 :) Geeze I love this site! I found it yesterday when trying to find info on building a barn style shed ( have a metal one and it's too small and leaks) Now I am sitting here suffering from deck envy...lol. I live in a mobile home ...sniffle sniffle but am making the best of it. Last year I installed double hung GASP!! insulated windows I salvaged from a tear down and built a porch. My porch is not nearly as nice as your deck but it turned out ok for being my first porch. I'm planning to cover the underside of the roof with white salvaged vinyl skirting....I'm such a scavanger..lol check out my porch and let me know what you think.
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: Huggles on July 21, 2007, 08:15:55 PM
 :) hmmmm how do you add more than 1 pic at a time?
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: PEG688 on July 21, 2007, 11:02:43 PM
Looks good huggie , I just keep C&Pasting photo's in , there seems to be no limit on the # of photos you can insert per post as far as I can tell.
Title: Re:  Addition / deck details .
Post by: glenn kangiser on July 21, 2007, 11:48:17 PM
Deck envy-- I love it. :)

The only difference is that you don't use the insert file at the bottom of the page -- host it on Photobucket first then copy and paste the bottom IMG link here to your message -- there is a section on posting photos in the forum news.

http://photobucket.com/

Posting Pictures  -- http://www.countryplans.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1115032671