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General => General Forum => Topic started by: PEG688 on October 27, 2007, 12:21:27 PM

Title: Exterior wall rail caps .
Post by: PEG688 on October 27, 2007, 12:21:27 PM
 Here's a bit on that , these can be a problem when living space is below.  This one leaked into the kitchen below and as you can see it rotted off a support post or two .

They first guys , from a "well known ",  local,  "great builder/ contractor"  ::)  ::)  ::) I get so sick of fixing these guys work all the while "hearing" what a great company they are  ::)  ::)  ::) It almost makes me  >:(  >:(

Oh well that's another story.

As I found it , no  paper , none vip nadda, no flashing , just a painted flat guard rail cap >:(

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Oct252007.jpg)

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Oct2520074.jpg)

This roof deck detail really sucks as well , it should have run up the wall at least 6" but it hasn't leaked yet  ::) I'll do some better counter flashing , it won't be perfect , just better , when we side this inner area.

There are other factors into why I won't be doing more in this area, to convoluted to explain  here right now.   That "deck roofing" should aways run up the wall 6" or more .

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Oct2520075.jpg)

New 4x4 posts all the rot cut out ,

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Oct262007.jpg)

Proper post to beam connections ,

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept17002.jpg)

Felted in , wrapped over the wall top and down the other side and Grace Vycored over that!

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept17006-4.jpg)

 That's the way to do it !      
Title: Re:  Exterior wall rail caps .
Post by: ScottA on October 27, 2007, 01:21:41 PM
Looks great Peg. Whats the black stuff you put on top of the wall called?

Scott
Title: Re:  Exterior wall rail caps .
Post by: PEG688 on October 27, 2007, 01:31:56 PM
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Looks great Peg. Whats the black stuff you put on top of the wall called?

Scott



Are you ready for a DOH moment Scott???????????

Grace Vycor plus ;D  Just like it sez on that black stuff I used on top of the wall :o :-/

It's a sticky on one side rubber like on the other flashing product. Just Google it , they have a very well put together booklet on flashing and Grace vycor product uses as well. Your local Home despot or building supplier should have the product and the booklets .

 (https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept17008-3.jpg)
Title: Re:  Exterior wall rail caps .
Post by: ScottA on October 27, 2007, 01:40:15 PM
Doh!
Title: Re:  Exterior wall rail caps .
Post by: PEG688 on October 27, 2007, 01:53:05 PM
 Here's some photos of what it looked like before ,

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Oct23200712.jpg)

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Oct23200713.jpg)




Sort of scary that it looked so good on the surface isn't it :o The only sign was bubbling / peeling paint in that outside corner. The paint hides the rot , as I've said before paint will cover a multitude of sins.  :o



I should add that last year , at about this time,  we did a "quick fix" on the corner post , the folks where heading down south for the winter , that's why the corner was dry when I tore it out this year , I had done what it would take to stop the leak , but this time we are fixing and replacing the rot.

This was another area the builders , wrongly , decided no flashing was needed >:(

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Oct2520076.jpg)

All to often caulking is mis-used as flashing , so I'll repeat,  [highlight]CAULKING IS NOT FLASHING!![/highlight] It breaks down quickly letting in water  , a small crack lets in enough water to promote rot and mold , and in a way once the water gets in the caulking and paint hide the rot.  
Title: Re:  Exterior wall rail caps .
Post by: MountainDon on October 27, 2007, 09:43:03 PM
QuoteCAULKING IS NOT FLASHING!!
Four words to live and build by.