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General => Owner-Builder Projects => Topic started by: Baine on May 05, 2006, 11:02:21 PM

Title: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Baine on May 05, 2006, 11:02:21 PM
We have not started building the 20X30 yet, but we have made progress on our site development.  Anyone interested in watching the whole process may do so at www.thorn05.blogspot.com.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: glenn-k on May 06, 2006, 12:21:03 AM
Nice blog - looking forward to watching progress.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Daddymem on May 06, 2006, 06:05:06 AM
Wow, nice site and what a great looking family you have there.  Good luck and may you be granted with many sunny weekends in a row...I'll be praying for them for me too  ;)
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Amanda_931 on May 06, 2006, 07:51:36 AM
It is a nice site!

City water?

May mom do well.

Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Baine on May 07, 2006, 09:24:19 AM
Thanks everyone.  We appreciate the support and enjoy reading comments posted on the Blog.

The property is located in Hilham, TN.  It is  5 acres with water, phone, and electricity roadside.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Amanda_931 on May 07, 2006, 04:56:46 PM
I looked up Hilham and Overton Counties in ePodunk, which seems to be a better site than it sounds like.  Overton is about the size of my county--around 16,000.

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/localList.php?local=43&locTGroup=Counties&direction=down&sec=0
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: jwv on May 07, 2006, 06:39:38 PM
Love to watch building happen!  Thanks for giving access to your blog. Beautiful spot.

Judy
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Baine on June 10, 2006, 10:19:57 AM
We ordered the subfloor framing materials last thursday, and it will be delivered Monday.  Hopefully the block masons will show and we can get really going.
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: glenn-k on June 10, 2006, 10:26:42 AM
Sounds great, Baine --please keep us updated.
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Post by: bil2054 on June 11, 2006, 09:05:30 AM
Simply great photo essay, Baine.  It looks like you guys are learning stuff, accomplishing it, and having fun all at the same time.  It don't get much better than that.
Thanks for sharing the blog.
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: glenn-k on June 11, 2006, 09:45:02 AM
I checked out your Blog again, Baine.  Things are looking good.  That is a great looking little Cat.  The shed looks great too.
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Baine on June 23, 2006, 06:54:18 AM
We have been without internet for a couple of weeks, so check out the latest posts on our blog.  We extended the footprint to 34 feet for a little more room. By the way John, we opted for the engineered flooring system and it is without a doubt the straightest, firmest, and easiest to install floor I have ever built. :)
www.thorn05.blogspot.com.
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Sassy on June 23, 2006, 05:09:39 PM
You guys are moving right along - that lake looks awfully nice!  Wish we had one to jump into...
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Baine on July 03, 2006, 04:32:24 PM
We are moving along now, but good Lord the heat is killing me!
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Baine on July 04, 2006, 09:51:26 AM
[size=14]www.thorn05.blogspot.com[/size]

We set the beams last week in the cabin, and rubbed them with an oil finish to protect them from the weather.  We had originally planned to use whole beams to span the front area of the cabin, however there is no local supplier for the larger timbers as we had out west.  We could have bought them from our supplier in Livingston to be shipped in, but the cost per timber beam was about $300 as compared to $70 for the built-up beam, including the oil finish.  I was looking for a "beefy" appearance in the beams, which is why we sandwiched the whole deal together with bolts. I took standard hex head fasteners and heated them under a torch until the zinc plating burned for the look I wanted.  My wife was stoked, so it must look good.
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: peg_688 on July 04, 2006, 10:20:22 AM
Looks good  :) I've used galv. bearing plates , The 3"x3" type we now have to use for foundation washer , and put those on on a angle , sort of diamond shaped .  Your bolts are to low so it won't work for you but some one else might like the idea . They cost $2.65 ea  :o No wonder houses cost so much eh :(

 Try to stay cool , lookin good :) PEG
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: jraabe on July 04, 2006, 10:46:17 AM
Nice job on the beams and a clever solution.

(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/jraabe/beam.jpg)

These should age very well and people will still be talking about them 50 years from now.  ;) You have come up with a practcial way to get maximum strength out of a minimum material configuration. The decking will take the place of the top part of the box beam you are building.

Also... a wonderful blog and a handsome family!
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: glenn-k on July 04, 2006, 11:12:59 AM
Really looking good, Baine and family. :)
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Baine on July 04, 2006, 01:18:03 PM
Thanks everyone.   :)

We are placing an order tomorrow at The Building Center which should get us to 90% of lockup.  For me seeing the roof on a structure has a big impact on the feeling of progress.  Which that should happen in the next 7 days.
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Baine on July 28, 2006, 07:01:38 PM
[size=14]www.thorn05.blogspot.com[/size]

Hello Everybody,

We have been dilligently working on the roof for the past couple of weeks, and it finally has paid off.  I was laying decking on the roof without any safety line (holding on with one hand and a nail gun in the other) when a neighbor came by and made mention of how stupid that was, so I got the lines and harness out of the shed and hooked in.  It was safer, easier and it made the neighbor and my wife real happy. ;D
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Amanda_931 on July 28, 2006, 07:52:39 PM
I don't do heights well at all.  But I have been on a 4 in 12 roof putting on sheathing (hey, that crew tied the guards of their circular saws up, they couldn't be bothered with nonsense like harnesses). But that roof is more than a little too much, probably even for those guys.
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: peg_688 on July 28, 2006, 09:31:03 PM
What we do is run  2x4's "people keepers" the length of the roof starting about 2' up from the bottom and about every 4' from then on up the roof . Nailed down about every other trust with 16 d sinkers.  Really steep roof , in excess of 8 /12 we use roof jacks like these :

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0006FLKLC.01-A1K8JDRC7RBMF7._AA280_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

 American Manufacturing Model #3000 10" Adjustable Roofing Bracket
Other products by American

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List Price: $10.25  
Price: $7.49  
You Save: $2.76 (27%)  

Or rent them  ;)

 , with 2x6 plank about the same set up 2' up every 4' there after.

  Doesn't help Baine any  but could help someone else :)

The harness is still a good idea, they tell me. Sure is a PITB having that rope and harness draggin around , tripping over etc etc . But it's a OSHA thing ::)

 Looks good Baine  :) PEG    
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Pala on July 29, 2006, 11:02:41 AM
My roof monkey prefers a rock climbing harness as opposed to the OSHA safety harness which is useless  to hang, support and stretch from/with.
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Amanda_931 on July 29, 2006, 06:36:06 PM
That makes sense.
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: dmlsr on July 30, 2006, 04:40:56 PM
what size roof raffers did you use?? we are building 24 x 20

Dave
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Baine on July 30, 2006, 05:06:12 PM
We used 2x10x16' 16 O.C. with collar ties every four feet.
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: peg_688 on August 01, 2006, 09:31:11 PM
People keepers ,

(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Aug18.jpg%20)

 Climbers harness won't make OSHA happy but I have heard those that have them say they're better than the OSHA approved ones .

G/L PEG
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Baine on August 03, 2006, 12:27:38 PM
The 20 X 34 is for sale as of yesterday.  We will "lock it-up" prior to sale, but we need to go on to another cabin project.  There is a great deal of interest in the property, but who knows.  We own another piece of land (17 acres) that we want to build our home on.  I want to try a different plan, so I need to see what else John might have that would work well on the other property.

Our work isn't over, so keep watching and commenting.
[size=12]www.thorn05.blogspot.com[/size]

Baine
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Baine on January 13, 2007, 12:21:32 PM
Time flies when you're building.  We finally have internet and phone installed in the cabin, so it makes it much easier to communicate with everyone.  A lot of progress has been made. Right now we are waiting for warm, dry weather to paint.

We found it very nice to have a working (flush) toilet and shower. My wife and kids cheered with the first swoosh of water down the Jon. Our woodstove heats the whole cabin, and ther is no shortage of good Appalachian hardwood.

It's the simple things in life...
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: glenn-k on January 13, 2007, 07:35:37 PM
Great to hear from you again Baine.  Internet access is nice - fairly necessary for some of us. :)

QuoteClimbers harness won't make OSHA happy but I have heard those that have them say they're better than the OSHA approved ones .  

G/L PEG

PEG - my son is working on a copper roof project in Santa Monica.  I asked him if OSHA was watching.  He said he's not worried because the Mexican workers are tying themselves on the steep roof with their extension cord.  Have you ever tried that?  :o
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: Amanda_931 on January 16, 2007, 09:46:06 PM
No thank you!   :)
Title: Re: New Project (20 x 30)
Post by: desdawg on January 19, 2007, 11:04:10 AM
#8 is approved, the standard 14 gauge is not.  ;)