So - there is another good thing about thread drift.
[highlight]Note : I ripped this thread off from PEG's Corbel thread as he made some interesting comments about old building quality and construction. Possibly we can expand on old techniques, methods and things that have made them last over over the years as well as history associated with the buildings. [/highlight]
Sleeping in -? Moi :-? Not too late today -- I worked the night shift here - till like 1:30 or so --- Don and I had to keep things going while you were getting your beauty sleep-- then today it was off to the gold rush. I learned a lot. How to differentiate between real gold and fools gold when panning.
Did I find any --- yup -- easily described - 1 piece the size of a speck of pepper and a few about the size of a grain of flour. :)
Yesterday I cuddent even spill prospector -- now I are one. ;D
From there I was still too excited so I went and found the site of the old Princeton mine - It would have been visible from my cabin. Nothing there but brush and trees now - a hole in the ground and massive rock/unknown cement walls. It is soft mortar like crushed slate in a giant formed rubble wall - 30 feet long and 20 feet high with misc. piers.
(http://www.house.gov/radanovich/photos/MariposaPhotos/Photo10.jpg)
I hope to find enough gold to make a nice California Corbel.
Yanno in that photo of the old mine theres some very impressive work / building done there. 8-) 8-)
Two , it looks to be , wooden water tanks and that main building look how straight the long roof pitch's are . Some multi level builds etc. The old times could get"er done fast and looking pretty fine as well.
And ALL MTL done with hand tools / at least pre elec. power tools I'd guess.
So you'll be out looking for that old site now ?? or do you know it's location all ready??
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Note the water tanks are on a post and pier foundation , maybe John designed that siite ;D
Also edited to add:: Did you mean [highlight]WEB site[/highlight] , or the accual building site :-/
Yeah - I was there - didn't see any signs so slipped around the end of the cable. Maybe I'll go back and snap a few pics and post them.
I am trying to find the current owner and see if I can get permission to do some historical research on the site.
I always love the old mine buildings.
I assume that the tanks were cyanide leaching vats - needed to get all the gold out that they could and that was the most popular way for the final bit.
Here is a speech by George Radanovich - http://www.house.gov/radanovich/press/2002/nov02/112002MariposaSpeechinLA.htm where I borrowed the photo from. I know his cousin ?, Leroy and other relatives. Interesting that Trabucco Warehouse was mentioned at the end of it. Unfortunately I was the one who had to tear it down. Another piece of history gone. Greed, lawyers, insurance, liability and time are slowly (not slow enough) destroying much of our interesting past.
I walked on the building site with my grubbly little feet about 2 hours ago. I was there - found one interesting shaft although I think the main one may be filled in - at least part way. From the photo, the one I found would have been off to the left or farther North I think.
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I assume that the tanks were cyanide leaching vats - needed to get all the gold out that they could and that was the most popular way for the final bit.
Well a tanks, a tank . Not many barrel / wooden tank builders left. Very interesting trade barrel building that is. I've seen it done on TV New Yankee and some other show building wine barrels .
So you know the buildings and site , 8-)
Housed in the above buildings was the steam engine - I saw the old boiler laying on the ground - not visible here -- I assume it powered this engine.
(http://www.house.gov/radanovich/photos/MariposaPhotos/Photo4.jpg)
Interesting engine history I found from the name on the head of the engine.
http://www.constructionequipment.com/article/CA6255981.html?industryid=23403
Quote1871 - Simon Ingersoll received patent for steam-powered rock drill; Ingersoll Rock Drill Company formed; 1872 - first Rand air compressor introduced; Rand & Waring Drill & Compressor Company formed; 1879 - name changed to Rand Drill Company; 1888 - Ingersoll Rock Drill Company merged with Seargeant Drill Company, formed Ingersoll-Seargeant Drill Company; 1894 - W.R. Grace named President of Ingersoll-Seargeant; 1904 - Panama Canal begun using Ingersoll-Seargeant drills; 1905 - Ingersoll-Seargeant Drill Company merged with Rand Drill Company, formed Ingersoll-Rand Company.
http://www.constructionequipment.com/article/CA6255981.html?industryid=23403
Note the board and batten walls inside the engine room. In this area this would have likely been pine. In the top picture see the cordwood stacked - likely for the steam engine. In those days the hills around here were bare for miles around.
Board and Battern was a very common construction method during the goldrush period here, as well, and there are plenty of old homes with them still around in this area- in fact, those constructed pre-mid 19th century, when timber was very freely available use slab and battern, where vertical slabs as thick as a railway sleeper formed the wall material with the gaps between covered by batterns.
Interesting Pete. How extensive was your gold rush - time period - area - types - Placer? Hard rock? Did you have any of the buildings similar to the above -- it used gravity as a help in the milling of the gold - starting at the top and working it's way down through the process. I understand that corrugated iron was common down there. Were there examples of its use in the mining industry?
That's a fair sized flywheel on what appears to be a modest sized engine. It's let into the floor a bit so it might be close to 8' in diameter.
Image how well those building would have stood up if they had been properly designed, engineered, permitted and inspected.
Not far from me is the town of Dahlonega, GA. They claim to be the home of the first gold rush in the U.S. Auraria about a mile down the road from Dahlonega makes the same claim. They're so close it really doesn't matter. Dahlonega was the home of the first U.S. mint. That building is still standing and is now the administration building for the college, North Georgia Military College.
Glenn, the goldrush period here was much the same as your own, with outlaws ( called ""bushrangers'') holding up stage coaches and robbing banks. Most of the gold mining was shallow, and there are extensive trenches and workings still visable. Corrugated iron was easily transportable and used in the construction of batteries and mill buildings. I'll see if I can hunt up some links.
Just another thing on traditional construction- a method of fixing bearers and joists and piers to flooring- even roof trusses called ""twitches"" was common, and involves the use of heavy fence wire, no 8 from memory, to bind the parts together, rather than bolts and or nails. I used it to fix my piers to the floor frame and the verandah roof the the poles which support it. Was that method used there?
Here's a link to some current info and history
http://users.tpg.com.au/dtdan//index.htm
Haven't heard of twitches. The mine timbers used a method called square set timbers usually.
I saw some of the old joints when I tore down the warehouse and in the Old building I am working on. They used a half lapped splice over a column and the warehouse had post tops as tenons to connect the beams together. Wish I had been able to get better pics of the joinery. I'll see what I can find.
(https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/glennkangiser/TrabuccoWarehouse074.jpg)
Columns set under the above joint.
(https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/glennkangiser/TrabuccoWarehouse014_edited.jpg)
The wood columns set above the brick column.
(https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/glennkangiser/TrabuccoWarehouse025.jpg)
I house I grew up in, and that my Mom kept until about 1995 or so was built in the late 1890's or thereabouts. No one was quite certain.
It was a one and a half story 20 foot or so wide stick built building. LR, DR, Kitchen, and 1 bedroom on the main floor. Upstairs the bathroom, and 2 bedrooms. Off the back was an unheated enclosed porch with an upper closed in balcony/porch. Originally I think it was open as the floor sloped like a shed roof. That was off my bedroom, so I had a summer room to sleep in. Cool place, all screened in originally... no windows.
One of the things I could never understand about that house was there was no insulation anywhere, except for a 3 - 4 inch layer of wood shavings in the attic floor. This was in Winnipeg, Canada and those winters were always cold and long. :o At some point before my parents bought it in 1948 it was stuccoed. That probably helped keep the drafts down. It has a real brick fireplace.
The house is still standing today; the neighborhood has changed some, but for the most part the houses are still kept up. No earthquakes or tornadoes, hurricanes there. Just damn cold and until a couple decades ago it was prone to flooding in a really bad spring run-off. We never had water around the house, but the sewers could give trouble in a bad year. I have pictures, have to find them.
QuoteThat's a fair sized flywheel on what appears to be a modest sized engine. It's let into the floor a bit so it might be close to 8' in diameter.
Image how well those building would have stood up if they had been properly designed, engineered, permitted and inspected.
Not far from me is the town of Dahlonega, GA. They claim to be the home of the first gold rush in the U.S. Auraria about a mile down the road from Dahlonega makes the same claim. They're so close it really doesn't matter. Dahlonega was the home of the first U.S. mint. That building is still standing and is now the administration building for the college, North Georgia Military College.
I was not aware of the Eastern US gold rush. Learn something new every day. I found references to it now that you mentioned it, John C.
I would guess that that engine was 12 or more feet long.
Here is another one about 20 miles away that is at least that long.
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The dificulty in moving something as massive as that in the days of horse and cart would be incredible.
http://wwwmcc.murdoch.edu.au/ReadingRoom/3.1/Craik1.html This shows the use of corrugated iron and a stump and batten high-set construction method used in tropical and sub-tropical areas. Many homes are still built to this design. My own home is on stumps, elevated to catch every breeze during the hot steamy summer.
I'm learning a lot from this interesting thread. :)
There wasn't much gold mining up in my neck of the woods, but during the same historical period, loggers of the Pacific NW were building bridges using a brute force design involving old growth timber (which was cheap and available).
(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/jraabe/bridge.jpg)
John is that photo out of the Saganaw loggers book / site ?? Do they have a site??
My neighbor to the west of me was part of the Saganaw loggers back in 1930's , he's gone now but his wife still lives next door , they have a book "The Saganaw loggers " Bob's photo is in it , interesting photos , they'd burn 7 cords of wood a day , or cut 7 for the steam donkey's that dragged logs , and what ever else they needed to move . I check on line to see if thats where you snagged that photo.
They used a lot of good timber back then for just about everything , carbon foot print was a tad LARGE ;DMaybe exexex large :o
QuoteThe dificulty in moving something as massive as that in the days of horse and cart would be incredible.
Fairbanks Morse made a model similar to this that could be disassembled and hauled into the mines in smaller chunks. I have several of the old one lungers at my other place. This one is a hoisting engine where the mine hoist is built right onto the engine, but not the real portable model.
(http://gasenginerow.com/image/fairbanksn%20N.jpg)
http://gasenginerow.com/index.html I have some model Z FBM engines.
It and others like it are preserved and running at Vista, CA. As I recall, they also have some nice steam engines - the above are gas or kerosene around the year 1900.
http://www.agsem.com/
Great looking bridge, John. I'm lusting after the logs. :-[
My granddad, dad and uncles had or ran sawmills or worked in logging in the PNW. I think my uncle was using an aluminum walker when he finally quit falling. Not sure about that but I think he probably still has a chainsaw at near 90. How's he keep going you ask :-?--- Preservative, I think -- he drinks lots of preservative. :)
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I was not aware of the Eastern US gold rush.
You had one too? ;D
I have friends who used to live in Truckee, CA. Right on Donner Mtn. When I mention the Donner Party, Sierra Nevada Mtns. and the snow they get there a lot of people here think I'm making the whole thing up.
The Donner Party started the original potluck. Bring your own dish. Unfortunately people had not yet caught on to the idea yet so pickens were slim. They are just a few hours up the road from me.
I really love the old gold towns and the buildings in them are great. This year we will be making more field trips so I hope to help keep this thread interesting for a while. Many of them are small houses like John designs and most of them are still inhabited.
Some nice engines there Glenn. Loved the triple diesel 15,701 cubic inches!!
You gave me another reason to visit some places in CA.
I have spent the last five years in a 1886 mansion,fortunately that will end soon,paying $650 to freeze all winter has made Me appreciate a wood stove and Small houses while beautiful it is a Energy disaster. Originally built by a by a judge law office one side home on other so total heat 1100+$.but the wood work is out of this world how can carvings in Oak and maple 3/8 by 5/8 not crack in all that time?grain at 90 degrees ? <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="https://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w113/addison51/022407_1524b.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
It was winters here I came to realize i didnt spend 65$ for my car But 650 to freeze,the time Ive spent repairing houses some very old pre 1760 cape in Maine..How do you tell the herd there biggest investment is obsolete? i should Be able to heat a16x32 well insulated with My old pal wood stove without felling any trees.for chainsaw change..then Ill get as warm as I want.
Don, the Gold King mine in Jerome, AZ, has a 10,000 cu. in. engine - old Fairbanks as I recall, they fire it up once in a while. Don Robertson is a great guy and keeps tons of the old machinery and old style building going. He has a circular sawmill that he cuts lumber to build with there.
He doesn't make it fancy -- just makes it work for it's keep. :)
Leo -- still something to be said for keeping the old places alive - but --yup - the little super insulated one will be much more comfortable. :)
15,701 cu. in. 10,000 cu. in. Makes me want to find a .wav file of the Tim the tool man Taylor grunt. I'll bet they have some SERIOUS low end torque.
They are big beauties - just sit and run - rather slowly for days - weeks -- or months. Usually always pretty stationary on the speed.
What would be a normal operating RPM? I assume something ridiculously low by todays standards ... 150 rpm or so?? I try to image one of those things operating at modern rpm 1800 rpm and up. That would be a site to behold, from afar.
I live in apple country. At the various fall festivals there are often a few small steam powered apple presses that look just like those in miniature. I've only ever seen one running once. They usually attract a large crowd and I don't do crowds. I drive by one every now and then that someone has as "yard art". I'll try to grab a photo of it in the next week. I would guess the flywheel on the apple presses I've seen is 24" to 30" in diameter. They are now often mounted on small trailers so I doubt the all up weight is more than ~600 lbs.
I couldn't remember exactly - seemed to be around 500 RPM on most - Here is a link from one of the good wind generator experimenter sites where the guys says the "Z" is rated at 400 RPM. http://www.otherpower.com/dynotest.html
Overspeeding these engines can cause the flywheels to explode from centrifugal force with heavy chunks of cast iron flying like grenade shrapnel. People can die that way. :(
I don't think the big ones ran much faster - I worked on a couple of giant ones in the oil field. Heres one at 260 rpm http://www.rustyiron.com/engines/commercial/index.html
Even modern day restorers occasionally pull a no-no and lose an arm or something to one of these old engine flywheels. They were invented before OSHA, but generally with common sense and care they are pretty safe and lots of fun. They generally put ropes and posts around the danger areas at shows.
These old ones are shown at 300 RPM - similar to the oil field engines and Gold Kings 3 cyl. engine.
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from http://www.practicalmachinist.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=002279;p=0
I got back to the Princeton last Monday and got a few pictures. Here is the boiler that I assume powered the Ingersoll engine.
(https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/glennkangiser/P1010758.jpg)
and here is the wall that I think was inside the large building.
(https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/glennkangiser/P1010762.jpg)
It appears that this wall may have been made of tailings set in a rubble wall form and cemented together with lime cement along with crushed slate. While the mortar seems quite soft, it is still standing over 150 years later and apparently did the job required of it.
(https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/glennkangiser/P1010784_edited.jpg)
Seems more study on how it was made could be worthwhile for various walls and fences around our home or cabin projects.
Glenn,
My dad has 40 acres near Oakhurst. His is ex-military, retired police. He started a sportman's club there - had a barn built and spends a lot of time up there.
Anyways, he pans in (IIRC) the Fresno River which cuts through one edge of his property.
That's a nice area also - almost big city now - about 30 miles away from here. Maybe I'll meet up with him some day. If you get out to visit be sure to give me a holler or stop in. :)
Charmaine Taylor of dirtcheapbuilder.com is the queen of lime. Lots of information on her site.
Plus there's a lot of interesting stuff from Japan--including things like foundations for bridges that stood in water.
Looks like lime was used in the early days in some areas.
Plain dry stacked rock was used in the old days also like on these dry stack walls in Buffalo Gulch where I was today -- built by the Chinese about 150 years ago. The buildings are gone but the basements - lower stories are still there.
There was even a hand dug well in a corner of one of the building foundations. More are peeking out of the grass begging to be excavated. :)
(https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/glennkangiser/P1010825.jpg)
The abundant free rocks were perfect for building a foundation that would endure for longer than the structure they were supporting.
(https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/glennkangiser/P1010824.jpg)
Not sure how old this cabin is, but it's in nice pretty country, NM, right near by our land. Ours is in the trees, starting about the tree line just left of center, going to the right (east) and north.
(https://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/djmillerbucket/old%20cabins/mini-IMG_1802.jpg)
It was built in three sections by the looks of it.
(https://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/djmillerbucket/old%20cabins/mini-IMG_1674.jpg)
Two different log sections
(https://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/djmillerbucket/old%20cabins/mini-IMG_1684.jpg)
Plus a full length addition at some later time. Some rather unconventional footings in use there (concrete filled... not sure of the PSI)
(https://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/djmillerbucket/old%20cabins/mini-IMG_1680.jpg)
a genuine antique...
(https://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/djmillerbucket/old%20cabins/mini-IMG_1675.jpg)
the essential ancillary building...
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Always neat to find an old place in the woods -- I always find myself looking at the methods of construction - storing bits of information for a day when it may be useful.
In the old days , before refrigeration, spring houses were used. At the bottom of our property is a year round spring which had an ancient miner cabin built there -- since burned down - probably during gold rush days as the square nails and charcoal remains are buried under about 1 foot of dirt.
I'm not sure if it was a spring house or not, but the old miner trail down the mountain went within about 60 feet of the spring. We found a horseshoe and mule shoe from the old days on the trail.
There was another one near our area shown on an old map as the Oak Springhouse if I remember right.
Here is info an a spring house and a picture of the more permanent rock variety along with a nice story of how it was used.
(http://waltonfeed.com/old/springhs.jpg)
http://waltonfeed.com/old/springhs.html
And back home in the Canadian prairies my uncle who had a small farm had an "icehouse" that was actually built of wood boards. It was sited over a large pit that was filled with block ice cut from a nearby lake in the winter. The blocks were piled in the pit and covered with sawdust. The removable plank floor was replaced. In the summer the day's milking was suspended in the pit thru one of several hatches in the plank floor.
The icehouse got turned into a garden shed after the farm got updated with power and modern appliances.
No pictures tho' :(
That's interesting, Don. There is an Ice House road down here in the mountains somewhere - had an old ice house there. Eastern and central Oregon has ice caves that never thaw in the summer. The cold is heavy and just stays down there.
There's a cave in NM that has ice all year
http://www.icecaves.com/
In Utah I've seen an old settlers "cabin" in the desert canyons. It was set in a sandstone alcove with a timber framed floor and outer wall. The other three walls and roof were sandstone. A short walk up a narrow canyon was a spring and pool, their water supply. A little further back thru a narrow opening was the "ice box". There was no ice, but the evaporation of the water flowing over the sandstone walls made it quite cool even in the hot summer.
I have photos somewhere on paper. Maybe I'll find them. :-/
The people had a small copper mine as well as their own moonshine still. Not all Utah settlers were Mormons. :)
I have another interesting story about early settlers and moonshine in Utah.
Really "cool" MtnDon! Glenn & I went to Tule Lake in N Calif. We explored a lot of lava tubes - we found an ice cave - Glenn climbed down into it - quite a contrast from near 100 degree weather to freezing! We also went to Lake Shasta & Bumpass Hell - a small Yellowstone Park with bubbling, steaming water & mud ponds - really neat. Our pics are on paper, too...
Not all Mormons shunned moonshine. I think they were called Jack Mormons. Had one working for me once - not moonshine but beer -- lots of beer. So let's hear it. :)
That spring in the mountains reminds me of the time Sassy and I rode the Honda 70 eight miles across the .... nevermind I think I told that one already. :-?
I can't find the photos I wanted... I think they're paper.
On a trip in Utah we met some ancestors of a pioneer family. The Marsing family lived on the banks of the Green River aboout 20 miles straight south of the town of Green River, UT in the 1930's. By river it was more like 30+ miles I think. They settled on a section of river bank that was/is known as June's Bottom. 38.71282 N 110.09998 W
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To get there overland is quite a trip today. At least it was until about 5 years ago. The BLM closed the area to vehicle travel because of overzealous environmentalists. The Green River along here is a designated Scenic River. Even though there is ample evidence of prior habitation the BLM declared the western side of the Green to be a pristine wilderness area and barred all vehicular access. But that's another rant... we'll let that be.
A portion of June's Bottom from the other side of the river.... You can see the roadway the Marsings built. There's extensive rock retaining walls still standing and serviceable today. Today the banks of the Green are overgrown with Tamarisk because the river no longer flood seasonally. Just like the Colorado.
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They built a cabin. They had a steam powered water pumping and irrigation system. They grew corn as well as vegetables for their own consumption in the fine bottom land. But the prime crop was corn. Here's another view with June's Bottom on the left side of the photo.
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So why did they live way out in the middle of nowhere and grow corn? They also had a still and make moonshine! When they had a sufficient quantity bottled up in Mason jars they'd make the overland trek north to the town of Green River. There the children would sell treasure maps. They'd go back home and await the arrival of the map purchasers by the riverside. The maps would be redeemed and everyone was happy. Thay did that for several years before moving on to some other venture.
Today the remains of their cabin, the boiler and the frame of an old Model T truck and a few other scattered pieces remain down there. Those are the photos I can't locate.
Here's where we took the pictures from. It's also a trek across the desert, although not as challenging as the other side.
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Another old Utah cabin in Eagle Canyon. No windows, must have been a dreary existence.
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Interesting story, Don. I trucked through Green River pulling a 45' reefer about 25 years ago. Didn't need a reefer - it was plenty cold outside. :o
Sod roof on the building at one time? or something else?
Sod as I recall. It amazing that people lived out there at all.
I thought it might be due to the front log on top the edge of the eaves -- looks like a sod retaining log. :)
On Whidbey island there are remains of several depression era pully systems hidden on various beach properties that were used to do midnight loadings of "rum runners" - small moonshine boats that would service the cities of Everett and Seattle with our fine local brews. :o
That's cool -- pirates grog. What a bunch of outlaws. ;D
That reminded me of a salt tram near where we used to go skinny dippin' at the Hot Springs.
The Saline Valley salt works shipped salt on a tram over an entire mountain range.
(http://www.ttora-socal.com/~tmdavid/deathvalley/images/SaltTramTents-Rz.jpg)
(http://www.ttora-socal.com/~tmdavid/deathvalley/images/Saline-Valley-Salt-Tram.jpg)
from here http://www.ttora-socal.com/~tmdavid/deathvalley/Pages/saline_salt_tram.htm
Very interesting, MtnDon - steam powered water pumping & irrigation - they must have had quite a set-up. Re-pristine wilderness areas, just more of the UN's Agenda 21 dictating how we use the land... >:(
The people who settled these areas must have been really tough!
I found and interesting presentation of a color photograph process invented by a Russian about 1900 or so. He used a 3 plate process - RGB and used a projector to show the color picture. Here is a hay storage facility about 1910.
(http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/images/p87_4245__00547_.jpg)
Storage Facilities for Hay
In the settlement of Viazovaia, along the Trans-Siberian mainline in the Ural Mountain region, wooden storage facilities for hay and food crops are photographed against the background of a dense pine forest.
Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii.
A Method for Storing Hay, 1910.
Digital color rendering.
Prints and Photographs Division
(LC-DIG-ppmsc-04426) (57)
More here -- http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/architecture.html
and the entire presentation - Library of Congress http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/
The process http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/making.html
(http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/images/p87-4610.jpg)
Windmills in Ialutorovsk County
Wooden mills using wind-power to grind wheat and rye are photographed in the middle of summer on the vast Siberian plain in rural Ialutorovsk county in Western Siberia.
Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii.
Mills in Ialutorovsk Uyezd of
Tobol´sk Province, 1912.
Digital color rendering.
Prints and Photographs Division
(LC-DIG-ppmsc-03965) (23)
from this section http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/work.html
Also from the above work section, 1911 - note the building roof next to the vendor - post and beam with a double layer of brick on the roof. This technique was also used here in Mariposa where thy had a single layer of brick under the roof of the warehouse I tore down. It was built about 1865. Both were apparently using the thermal flywheel effect of the brick to cut daytime heat from the roof and dissipate it at night.
(http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/images/p87-8003.jpg)
Melon Vendor
Dressed in traditional Central Asian attire, a vendor of locally grown melons poses at his stand in the marketplace of Samarkand in present-day Uzbekistan.
Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii.
Melon Vendor, 1911.
Digital color rendering.
Prints and Photographs Division
(LC-DIG-ppmsc-03949) (27)
Interesting use of brick in the roof! Think it would meet code in an earthquake area? :o
And quite a fascinating photo technique for so early in the invention of photography.
Impressive results as well. :)
(https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/jraabe/nicesuit.jpg)
Something similar (multiple shots of the same scene reassembled for the final image) is happening now in HDR (high dynamic range) photography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging).
QuoteThat reminded me of a salt tram near where we used to go skinny dippin' at the Hot Springs.
The Saline Valley salt works shipped salt on a tram over an entire mountain range.
Well, that brings back memories from about 1970! When I was 16, I hiked from Cerro Gordo Mine to New York Butte, saw that up close. Had a nice soak at the Dirty Sock afterwards too!
Was the dirty Sock the one on the West side somewhere down near the end of the salt tram? I think
Cerro Gordo has a spook bed and breakfast there now or it did.
Dirty Sock is about half way on the road between Olancha and Keeler. Check this out! (http://virtualguidebooks.com/SouthCalif/EastOfTheSierra/OwensLakeEast/DirtySocksSpring_FS.html)
That's the one I was thinking of - haven't been there though.