Buildings under 200 sf

[DavidLeBlanc]

I love those deep eves!

[Epiphany]

Would Peter Sloan happen to have any interior photos or a floor plan of how his 12x16 is laid out?

[jonseyhay]

Version two.
This is a small version of my first plan. The living area has been reduced and an extra popout added. These changes bring it in at just on 200 sq. ft. The kitchen and both seating popouts I have not counted as floor area.  The eating popout has a built in seat that could double as a small sleeper and would have storage space within. At a pinch, the table could be stored on the deck at night and the extra floor space used as a sleeping area (mattress on the floor). I have kept the roof more or less flat, for ease of construction; however, there is no reason it could not have a pitched roof with a sleeping loft. The drawings include a stump layout, but a crawl space foundation could be used that would enclose the bathroom plumbing. This area is included in the cottage footprint. Again the roof overhang is for my latitude and would need to be adjusted to suit other areas. The deck could be designed as large as needed and in fact would be more use stretched to 12'. You can print out for your own use a large drawing at the link below.
Now, I wait with bated breath for the underground version of the 200 sq, ft permit free cottage.
jonesy



http://users.tpg.com.au/jonsey/countryplans/200small.jpg

PS. Sorry folks, I have used metrics because that is what I am familiar with. The easiest way to handle that, if building, would be to buy a metric tape and use it without converting. The direct conversion to imperial will give odd measurements that if rounded out would put it outside the design criteria.

[glenn-k]

Jonesy, how are we ever gonna catch any fish if you keep eating the bait

I thought I would just set back and watch on this one as I can never seem to contain myself in 200 square feet.  

[Bart_Cubbins]

 Jonesy, we've already seen what Glenn would design when limited by county regulations to 10'x12' max size, no plumbing or electrical!!

[glenn-k]

In school they always yelled at me-- "Glenn - you are not a team player. "  I'd always think to myself, gee--thanks for the compliment!

[jraabe]

Jonsey:

I really like that tidy little cabin. Very space efficient and the deck makes a nice indoor/outdoor room. Easy to build too.

[DavidLeBlanc]

How do I get plans and views out of 3d Home Architect 3.0?

Something I'd like to share for this competition.

[Daddymem]

Can't help with specifics on 3dHA but look for save as or export options.  If all else fails, zoom in and use ctrl-print screen or alt-print screen then dump the capture into an image editor or get a screen capture program like Gadwin Printscreen which allows you to select which portion of what is on your screen you want to clip.

[Amanda_931]

They save or export as files I don't know anything about .dxf or .wmf

apparently no GIF or JPG.

[DavidLeBlanc]

My first effort with 3DHA:



The basic size, before "bumps" is 12' x 15' or 180 sq. ft. However, with
bumps, it says 254 sq. ft. (not including loft).

Can't figure out how to make the 1st floor walls 10' and the loft have a
2' side wall (front and back).

The "book case" opposite the front door is a stand-in for the ladder to
the loft. The other bookcase by the door to the bath will end up having
a drop down writing surface and the director's chair can be used to work
at it. Otherwise, the director's chair can be folded up for more traffic
area. A flat screen TV could go on the wall below or instead of the
abstract painting.

The roof is my best effort - and it's bad! LOL I did end up liking the
peaked roof with cathederal ceiling over the couch though! The dining
booth is supposed to have a plain shed roof, as is the bath. At least
the 2nd floor roof is exactly right!

Part of the roof problem is that some of the walls that should be are
not lined up with each other, but I haven't yet figured out how to fix that.

On balance, I REALLY like this little pad!

[jonseyhay]

Here is the loft version of my earlier drawing. It makes for a slightly more complex roof structure but gives space that is a bit more useful. The loft could be used as a bed space for a couple of youngsters, with access using a ladder stored out of the way when not needed. There is around 4' of headspace at the peak and about 2' at the wall. The little windows in the loft would need to be fixed so a skylight may be worthwhile for ventilation up there.
This would put a ceiling at just above window height in the kitchen area.

David,
The export dxf file will let you share files with other drawing programs. The wmf I would assume is a windows file of some type. The plan looks great and I think it would make a great seaside cottage as is. Maybe a walkout deck on the second floor would be option worth looking at, possibly incorporated into the veranda.
jonesy.




http://users.tpg.com.au/jonsey/countryplans/loftsmall.jpg

[Daddymem]

They save or export as files I don't know anything about .dxf or .wmf

apparently no GIF or JPG.

.dxf can be brought into CAD/CAM proggies, I think it stands for drawing exchange format.  

.wmf is windows meta file which can be brought into many different programs as an image.

[DavidLeBlanc]

Jonsey; What drawing program are you using?

[jonseyhay]

David,
I am using a very old version of Autosketch. I did upgrade to version 6 but hated it; it was a lot harder to use, way to complicated.  Version 2, the one I am using is only 2D and you can find it some places on the Internet, free. Auto sketch doesn't support it anymore and it is a little unstable on windows 98, I think, a conflict with the mouse. I have been caught a few times not saving often enough. It can import and export dxf and dwf files that will allow me to manipulate files from other drawing software. The drawings I have posted on the forum, I have just printed and scanned, it would be possible for us to exchange dxf files if we wanted to.
I have been thinking about your design overnight, I think it has possibilities as a full-blown house. Sort of brings to mind those forestry watchtowers. Not restricted by the 200sq ft rules the lower floor could be expanded to reasonably normal dimensions and a full staircase added. The bedroom with windows on 4 sides would be brilliant, especially with a walkout deck. I could just see this house built on a coastal site somewhere. Great job mate, keep working at it.
jonesy

[DavidLeBlanc]

Jonsey;

Thanks for the compliment!

How about making a flat roof over the dining booth and have that be the walk out deck for the 2nd floor - and then extend the 2nd floor roof over it! A sleeping porch/logia!

I indeed would like to design a larger model unconstrained by the 200 sq. ft. limit, with regular stairs and etc.

3DHA does export dxf files, so if you would like a copy of my efforts, please let me know. whisper_at_ozDOTnet ("Oz" is a name used here because Seattle is called the Emerald City ("of OZ") )

One thing I would like to do with the existing design is to carry the bit of roof that's over the sliding door over to just past the doorway, leaving a bit of a reveal at the corner.

A bit of redesign is also needed so that the 2nd floor corner doesn't come down in the middle of the sliding glass door - I bet the engineers and city inspectors would not go for that!

[jonseyhay]

Thanks David,
I'll get back to you this evening, I've got a digger bucket to hardface right now and the contractor is putting the pressure on. The flat roof over the eating area sounds like it would work. Make it and the door big enough so; the bed could be pushed outside for those hot summer nights. Nothing like sleeping under the stars.
jonesy

[jraabe]

Here is a post of David's floorplan which he had sent me in 3DHA format and I doctored up only slightly.

[DavidLeBlanc]

Wow John! That's really cool!

One point: the "ladder to loft" is opposite the door opening between the galley and sitting room. What you have labelled is a bookcase, but it could be an alcove for  a small marine propane stove.

The loft stops at the edge of the sliding door, so it's only about 10' x 12'. The easy chair is half under the lower ceiling and half over the higher ceiling.

BTW, I figured out how to get these into .jpg format by exporting from 3DHA as .wmf files and then opening in IrfanView, a freeware image viewer (highly recommended!), and then saving as .jpg.

[jraabe]

IrfanView is a very good tool and a good suggestion for 3DHA image conversions.

Sorry about the mislabeling. That's what I get for trying to reinterpret somebody else's work.