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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #375 on: October 28, 2010, 05:41:00 PM »
This is a link to an online article about a very cute tiny summer cabin built in Canada. I thought folks on this forum might be interested.
I hope it's ok to share it in this way.

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/sf/house-tours/four-people-and-a-dog-living-in-180-square-feet-home-away-from-home-tour-123518


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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #376 on: December 05, 2010, 04:35:41 PM »
hi jpatti, you rock!  i was just browsing a place called little house on a trailer, its in northern calif.  same idea.  after finding my building permit would run us about $20,000 i was looking for a option until we could manage the permit fee and build too.

i went back into this thread to re-think what we are doing, and was amazed to find your post.  thank you so much.

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #377 on: January 30, 2011, 11:15:58 AM »
has anyone ever buit the wiining entry or the second place one.  would like to see photos o the irst place one  mostly the interior.

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #378 on: January 30, 2011, 11:21:47 AM »
Woodsprite your build looks awesome.  I once in a while check your site , i guess you have been progressing..nice job.
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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #379 on: May 08, 2011, 05:56:43 AM »
This is pretty cool....add a little more space, like 4m x 4m and it could be luxurious.

http://www.cubeproject.org.uk/ 

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #380 on: June 16, 2011, 03:31:50 PM »
http://www.olsonkundigarchitects.com/Projects/825/Rolling-Huts#

Don't know if these have been mentioned yet & I can't say I like the looks, but in reading some of this thread, folks mentioned the concept of the rv type structure to get around building code obstacles. I believe the architects put these cabins on wheels so they could get around the building codes in Okanogan County. I think it was something about building in a flood plain, but am not sure on that.

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #381 on: July 26, 2011, 10:48:23 AM »
We're building a 12x10 tiny house in our backyard
http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=10664.0

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #382 on: February 03, 2012, 10:37:08 AM »
This young man gets kudos from me!


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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
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« Reply #384 on: September 04, 2012, 03:35:24 PM »
http://robinfalck.com/ Nido "Bird's nest" a young designer from Finland.
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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #385 on: November 16, 2012, 03:38:55 PM »
Here's an update on our 200 square foot cabin. It's mostly done (a little more done than this picture from last year). It's 200' minus the deck you see here.

You can read more about our cabin project here, and watch a few videos. I used this countryplans site to learn how to build it. http://solarburrito.com/blog/category/our-cabin/



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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #386 on: March 08, 2013, 10:32:39 PM »
I love this.. ;D

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #387 on: June 26, 2013, 01:36:12 PM »
Talk about your tiny houses





Here is the web site.  http://www.domusweb.it/en/architecture/2013/06/13/renzo_piano_diogene.html

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #388 on: June 27, 2013, 04:41:25 PM »
Nifty project. Very tidy.
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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #389 on: July 26, 2013, 08:02:30 PM »
They have squeezed the non-permit buildings down to 10'x12' here with no plumbing or electrical.

that is not right to require someone to get a permit as long as its not endangering for ex surrounding homes or buildings, let people endanger themself, and let them give/sell the house as long as the consumer is aware of the risks and benifits.

actually i have made a design that meets those standards, and it can be built in a way so that it is upgradable, so that electrical and plumbing can be put into it later on. a person can actually live w/o plumbing and electric in my design, you just collect rain water or put in a well or shallow hand pump well or collect from a stream/river, than use your small portable water purifier that purifys salt water, sewage, and haz waste. go to the bathroom outside ether in a compost humanure heap or scattered around in a large area, and for electric my house design is underground with shade trees and is partially passivly heated/cooled, plus its small so bodyheat will do some heating in the winter, just add a small solar panel, some heated blankets, a space heater, and an air conditioner, and wala a livable home that wouldnt require that permit.

here are the pictures:

house interior 7x8wide, 7tall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9371779389/sizes/l/in/photostream/

sml house interior 6x8wide,3.5tall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9374561476/sizes/l/in/photostream/

house garden
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9374544392/sizes/l/in/photostream/

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #391 on: July 26, 2013, 08:24:08 PM »
This young man gets kudos from me!



this  is great, this is what all youngsters shuold be doing, building themself a tiny house, the younger the better, that way they dont have to go into debt, and they can get away from their vicious abusive annoying parents, and its a good learning expirence for them to learn how to actually make things that people need instead of pushing paper at some buracracy... plus they wont have to go onto gov-funded apts (that are more expensive in just 4yrs or less, than a tiny house), from being poor because they already have a house. most people prefer a tiny house where they can choose, than an apt where you have to follow their rules and handle door handles.. that sick people touch.
good job.

here's my design:
house interior 7x8wide, 7tall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9371779389/sizes/l/in/photostream/

sml house interior 6x8wide,3.5tall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9374561476/sizes/l/in/photostream/

house garden
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9374544392/sizes/l/in/photostream/

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #392 on: July 26, 2013, 09:26:19 PM »
hi jpatti, you rock!  i was just browsing a place called little house on a trailer, its in northern calif.  same idea.  after finding my building permit would run us about $20,000 i was looking for a option until we could manage the permit fee and build too.

i went back into this thread to re-think what we are doing, and was amazed to find your post.  thank you so much.

thats wrong for them to want a permit, let people endanger themself as long as it doesnt endanger surrounding buildings. they shuldnt be allowed to permit they need to be fired and leave people alone.
you can make it w/o electric and w/o plumbing and maybe then you wouldnt need a permit, and make it so its ungradable so you can put electric and plumbing in later on. especially plumbing come on u shuldnt need a permit for that i mean whats the worst that could happen? eletric i mean you wana make sure your not going to burn the house down, and only somoene who knows what their doing should put in plumbing and electric, to make sure no one gets hurt, but if someone wants to hurt themself-let them, people are homeless, let them build houses, leave us alone overly controlling paracite gov members.
and that high, for a tiny home, the permit is like more expensive than the home almost, this is outa control.
it shuoldnt be that high.

you can live w/o electrical and plumbing in my house design(or any house although my design is well insulted cuz its underground so it utilites some passive temp control, plus its small so you can exercise in there in the winter to help heat it up. if its above ground and you build it very insulated and thick, tight(makeing sure theres some ventiliation so you dont suffocate), and small, you could probally be ok just doing the following too:
you just get a small solar panel, heating blankets, space heater, air conditioner, go to the bathroom outside in a humanure compost heap or randomly scattered around a large area, get a high quality small portable water purifier that purifiys sewage, haz waste, and salt water, collect rain water, water from a stream or river, a well(a large well is going to be more expensive ...), or a shallow hand pump well(those are simple just dig a hole after makeing sure you wont hit any pipes underground and u can put that in yourself)
there you go.

here's my design:
house interior 7x8wide, 7tall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9371779389/sizes/l/in/photostream/

sml house interior 6x8wide,3.5tall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9374561476/sizes/l/in/photostream/

house garden
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9374544392/sizes/l/in/photostream/

tell me if the links work

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #393 on: July 26, 2013, 10:36:17 PM »
http://www.olsonkundigarchitects.com/Projects/825/Rolling-Huts#

Don't know if these have been mentioned yet & I can't say I like the looks, but in reading some of this thread, folks mentioned the concept of the rv type structure to get around building code obstacles. I believe the architects put these cabins on wheels so they could get around the building codes in Okanogan County. I think it was something about building in a flood plain, but am not sure on that.

Harley

out of control exsessive mandated building codes need to be banned. like exsessive permit fines, and mandateing what color house you can have and stuff like that rediculous and intollerable. these regulations is part of whats purposely makeing people so poor, let the homless build houses. let them endanger themself as long as it doesnt pose a more than adv or high risk to other surrounding buildings.

it makes sence someone whos putting in plumbing and electrical should know what their doing so it doesnt start on fire or someone get hurt, gov should teach people how to do electrical, plumbing, and build houses in school instead of purposely makeing them stupid and not teaching them anything they need to know or will ever use, its all on purpose you must have dum people to sell education, so they pretend they sell "education" when actually it just makes them dummer, huge waste of $. this needs to stop.

you can live w o plumbing and electric, just have a well insulated house(my design is underground although an above ground house u can live in too if well insulated, thick, tight(w enough ventilation to breath), and small, small spaces use less energy to heat and cool, execise inside it in the winter to help warm it up, and design it so you can eventually put electric and plumbing it in later on.
small solar panel, rain water collection, hand pump well, sml portable water purifier that purifys sewage haz waste and salt water. heated blankets. air conditioner. space heater.

here's my design:
house interior 7x8wide, 7tall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9371779389/sizes/l/in/photostream/

sml house interior 6x8wide,3.5tall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9374561476/sizes/l/in/photostream/

house garden
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9374544392/sizes/l/in/photostream/

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #394 on: July 26, 2013, 10:41:03 PM »
Small buildings that often don't need a permit - What is the best design and the easiest construction? What are your ideas? What would you build?

See the contest and winners in this Owner Builder Gallery link - http://www.countryplans.com/contest.html

What follows below is the history of the discussion as the contest evolved.

these permits need to go-let people endanger themself as long as it doesnt endanger surrounding buildings.-there purposely makeing people poor, not letting the homeless build themself a home, exsessive regs should be banned.
if u want, you can design the house so that you can put plumbing and electric in it later, then go to the bathroom outside, rain water collection, hand pump well, sml portable water purifier that purifys sewage haz waste and salt water.
heated blankets. small solar panel, air conditioner, and space heater.

here's my design:
house interior 7x8wide, 7tall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9371779389/sizes/l/in/photostream/

sml house interior 6x8wide,3.5tall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9374561476/sizes/l/in/photostream/

house garden
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99405731@N05/9374544392/sizes/l/in/photostream/

tell me if the links work

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Re: Buildings under 200 sf
« Reply #395 on: July 27, 2013, 06:31:18 AM »
OK, the point has been made. Thanks for your input and your interesting design but don't overpost the same links as you wear out the message.

There was a design, I thought it was by Les Walker (American Shelter) in the late 70's, but it may be in Lloyd Kahn's "Tiny Homes" book. The idea is for an "inside out house" that had a tiny core house with sleeping quarters but the mechanicals were all positioned on the outside and the roof panels over the kitchen and bathing areas folded down and locked up when leaving the camp. Everything was out in the open and living was outside most of the time - Gypsy type living. There wasn't room for chairs inside. This was a very compact design and would work as a small trailer.
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« Reply #396 on: July 27, 2013, 07:21:39 AM »
Here are some solutions to the 200 sf limit that are being done as kits and prebuilt designs.

http://tinyhouseblog.com/stick-built/showcase-sheds-tiny-house/

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« Reply #397 on: July 27, 2013, 03:21:51 PM »
thanks. i assume u were refering to me. im sorry im new and i wasnt sure how this works. i wont do it agian.  :)

that inside out house sounds cool [cool] thanks. you helped me get an idea :) how bout interior like my design, bed in middle with the kitechen and bathroom on the sides, and to make it more compact, it could have the kitchen and bathroom slide over the bed to make it even thinner, as a trailor, for when your traveling with it, so if there was 1ft thick walls it would be 6ft wide when its compacted for travel, i geuss they do allow homes up to 12foot to be moved on some if not most us roads, but u have to go slow, so this would allow u to go faster since its only 6ft wide, than you can just silde it out when its time to live in it :) thanks :) . anyone reading this, do you like this idea? thanks :)

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« Reply #398 on: August 05, 2013, 04:54:09 AM »
Hi. I'm posting to this thread since it seems to largely concern the topic of my question. If a mod thinks that it is more appropriate (or would get more/better answers) elsewhere, I invite relocating it. I want to build a simple, 192 sq ft (12' x 16') multi-purpose, one-room building on some off-grid land I own in the Virginia mountains. Building is to serve as temporary shelter (camping-style; I currently have an old, beat-up travel trailer there that has become hopelessly mouse-infested) for the next couple of years, then long term storage. The roof is to be 12:12 gable with the ridge beam on the 16' dimension. I would like to have a partial loft (no knee walls) with portable ladder access. Metal roofing is desired, with a high probability of adding some photovoltaic panels, post construction. I intend to put the building on concrete piers. I would like an 8' wall using 2 x 4 studs 16" OC, and to use T111 for sheathing and siding. I want to build something that will last more than a few years with adequate maintenance, but economy of construction is essential. I intend to do the final design myself, but I would like to buy a good set of plans to crib from for a building reasonably similar to what I am planning as a sanity check. From a brief perusal of the Country Plans site, I've tentatively concluded that the Victoria Cottage plans would serve this purpose. If there is a plan set better suited to this application, I'd appreciate some guidance. Other observations and comments are welcome, however, the basic parameters of my building are somewhat fixed, for a number of reasons relating to the site and situation. Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.

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« Reply #399 on: August 05, 2013, 07:05:50 AM »
I would suggest the 12' wide version of the Little House plans would be closer to what you want to build than the Victoria plans. For your project I would suggest using deeper concrete piers to get below frost line and you may have to size the ridge beam for the local snow load, but you would have most of what you need (and it's a less expensive set of plans).

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