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« Reply #1461 on: November 27, 2009, 05:46:05 PM » |
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Thanks, Poppy. After working on the Industrial scheme apartments for the past year, I got to thinking that the large lags could well match my steel sheeting and armored electric cable. Why do we hide fasteners and pain ourselves with perfection on things anyway?  Possibly it is for the wife, so that there won't be a chance of us walking in and dropping a '63 Chevy block on the table and doing an overhaul?  |
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« Reply #1462 on: November 28, 2009, 10:57:23 AM » |
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I like the table!
I wonder what would have been produced had the same wooden materials been handed around to others here? I can imagine PEG would have taken a little longer than you to produce his finished product.
Could be the basis for a contest. Take a pile of odds and ends and have others see what they can make. Ya could even include that 63 Chevy block. Inline 4 or 6 or V8?
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« Reply #1463 on: November 28, 2009, 02:50:32 PM » |
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Glenn Why do we hide fasteners and pain ourselves with perfection on things anyway? That's a good question. I have some future plans for a wooden structure and have been trying to figure how to hide the bolts, but maybe I don't need to.  |
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« Reply #1464 on: November 28, 2009, 05:21:13 PM » |
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Do you think you could figure out a way to feature the bolts, Poppy? I think it's all in how you want to look at it. Sometimes we make the game too difficult for ourselves for little reason. If you cut the requirements back to simple functionality things get easier.
I leave all of the screw heads exposed in my rustic cabinets, much less time consuming and if put it reasonably straight they look decent. I just set the drill clutch to pull the heads down into the soft wood.
I read of an architect who had some personal deformities - I don't remember what it was exactlyor who he was , but it was his view that the things his projects were made of - the way they were held together etc, were not in need of hiding. Nothing to be ashamed of. That makes things easier. Also, My son who is quite an artist made a bay window installation and bench for us, of wood, with all black headed screws well aligned but fully exposed. It looks great in my opinion.
Fancy works of craftsmanship take more time and therefore are more expensive in time or money, but nothing wrong with that if that is what you want or like.
Don, PEG is in a different class than me and his creations are more like precision works of art for the people who could not live with rustic. I know his use of the same materials would result in much higher class piece of furniture.
On the table above, I did take time to lay out the lag screws so they would be in line parallel with the back legs, and offset the table to match the layout of the branch/legs - not too much sticking over one end etc.
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« Reply #1465 on: November 28, 2009, 05:38:26 PM » |
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Glenn I think that time is the biggest drawback to finishing work. In some settings exposed fastners look good and not in others. I usually try to hide the fastners if at all possible to make the wood appear more natural. Hey all the bolts in my tractor are exposed so you know I not against it.  |
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« Reply #1466 on: November 28, 2009, 05:43:33 PM » |
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I thought about hiding the fasteners, John, but then again I also suggested to Sassy that I just bolt some type of giant antique machinery right in there with the bolts. Corn planter or somethin like that.  |
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« Reply #1467 on: November 28, 2009, 05:48:47 PM » |
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That would be cool Glenn. You should have thought of that before but instead of it on the top of the table use the planter for legs and the wood plank for the top. I recently saw someone making coffee tables out of the old wood stove bases. Like the parlor stoves with the flared legs and a nice finsihed wooden top. Pretty sharp when it was finished. My uncle has been collecting the old treadle sewing machine bases. You can pick up some at auctions for a song. He has made several small tables and using the cast iron bases as the legs.
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« Reply #1468 on: November 28, 2009, 05:58:58 PM » |
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Careful there, John.  You may cause me to cut the front end off of a '58 Ford to make a couch or something. Come to think of it, I once knew where there was one ... but wait a minute... that one had a big crease from a jack handle on the hood... |
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« Reply #1469 on: December 03, 2009, 08:18:14 PM » |
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Glenn I think that time is the biggest drawback to finishing work. In some settings exposed fastners look good and not in others. I usually try to hide the fastners if at all possible to make the wood appear more natural. Hey all the bolts in my tractor are exposed so you know I not against it. I was thinking about this a bit John. If I didn't use those gigantic lags in that table, how would I ever use up some of my unnatural resources? |
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« Reply #1470 on: December 04, 2009, 05:26:16 AM » |
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Glenn Do you think you could figure out a way to feature the bolts, Poppy? That's a good question. In attempting to construct a traditional looking timber frame with wooden pegs and all, I originally didn't want any structural element to show metal fasteners. I have some time to coggetate on the matter, since the black walnut for the project is air drying in the barn and construction may not start for a couple of years.  BTW, not to hijack, but what would you make out of this 3' x 6' hunk of white oak?  |
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« Reply #1471 on: December 04, 2009, 11:54:56 AM » |
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BTW, not to hijack, but what would you make out of this 3' x 6' hunk of white oak?
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« Reply #1472 on: December 04, 2009, 01:01:47 PM » |
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Depending on diameter,I think quite a few small rustic table tops.Slice them every two inches and use thin logs and branches to make the pedestal and feet.Also make good tops for night stands and telephone tables,but who uses a house phone any more? me |
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« Reply #1473 on: December 04, 2009, 05:10:50 PM » |
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Glenn Do you think you could figure out a way to feature the bolts, Poppy? That's a good question. In attempting to construct a traditional looking timber frame with wooden pegs and all, I originally didn't want any structural element to show metal fasteners. I have some time to coggetate on the matter, since the black walnut for the project is air drying in the barn and construction may not start for a couple of years. BTW, not to hijack, but what would you make out of this 3' x 6' hunk of white oak? Looks like it could make a decent table if slabbed or smooth one edge of the slab and it could be a built-in wall desk top. |
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« Reply #1474 on: December 04, 2009, 05:14:41 PM » |
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Hi Steve. That could be cool. Looking at it in the pix it looks like if stood on the end cut with the hollow end in the air it might make a mighty fine throne also.... |
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« Reply #1475 on: December 05, 2009, 08:04:01 AM » |
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Glenn Looking at it in the pix it looks like if stood on the end cut with the hollow end in the air it might make a mighty fine throne also.... Now you've gone and done it Glenn. I thought I had the seat for the simple composting toilet firgured out, but now I will be measuring that hunk of oak to see if a bucket will fit in the trunk section. Talk about your junk and the trunk. |
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« Reply #1476 on: December 05, 2009, 05:24:16 PM » |
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I always try to look at things upside down and backwards, poppy. I hope it all works out in the end.... |
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« Reply #1477 on: December 05, 2009, 05:46:24 PM » |
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On another note... I got wood. Yup, a friend called and said the local sawyer offered to take it away for free but not pay anything for it. I offered to trade some Bobcat work for it. The logs were fallen across his lower driveway and were blocking it. So... I got wood. Whitlock came over this morning and rousted me out of bed. He was anxious to get going as I am trading him for some he needs also. He helps me -- I help him, we help my other friend and we all come out ahead - barter is great.  There is another load over there to pick up tomorrow. It could have been today but my log deck area was such a mess we had to spend a few hours cleaning it out just so we had room to unload.  It's all better now and the logs are safely stacked in a nice deck.... except this one.....  It decided to head down to the next terrace below the mill level ( about 20' elev lower) and attempt to smash my little red trailer...   These are bug damaged Sugar Pine and the larger ones average 20" to 24" dia and 16'6" long. |
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« Reply #1478 on: December 05, 2009, 06:01:10 PM » |
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Looks like some pretty clear and straight logs. They didn't even cut them up into unuseable lengths either like so many people do when they fall over a road. They are so interested in just getting the road open at any cost. Lucky find.
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« Reply #1479 on: December 05, 2009, 06:07:28 PM » |
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You got it, John. I like it when they call me to cut them to the lengths I want. I don't even mind limbing them as long as the price is right. I like the limbs cut close to the trunk so the saw carriage doesn't catch on them. I cut 6 inches over length to be sure crooked ends or checks are not a problem. He caught these just as they were starting to get bug damage so they are in very good shape. FULL of pitch - its really sticky in the saw cuts. The land owner had another usable driveway so these were only an inconvenience to them - no circle drive until I cleared the road. Here is a log volume table - looks like a lot of nice wood in there.  and a lumber calculator table  |
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