Re: Indigenous Housing

[glenn kangiser]

Cool old Board and Batten.

[Wolfer]

WoW this thread is everywhere, The area Most Spoken Of  (Inyo, Mono and Yosmite) Was My stompin grounds growing Up. There is alot of Culture in the area, and Petroglyphs are Everywhere. CHeck any Of the local Museums, Hawthorne and Fallon Both Have a great collection On the Native people. Dont forget The Lovelock museum.

There was a legend About red headed Giants In the Area Love lock has a great fallow up On this legend and Winnimucca actually has the Skull.




This area Has been Rampent In Mining  from the Late 1800's till pr34sent and WIth a Good vehical Ya can Get out and see ALot Of the Old Buildings still standing I have Multiple pics of the area and Many cabins Ill Post a few and If the Moderator wants to Pull them do to the Highjacking of a thread Ill add another thread as well.

Stockmens cabin from early 1900's the next photo is the interior. This cabin is well preserved do to the fact all the locals in the are use it as well as the current owner of the ranch who owns it




this cabin is actually in a small community type setting(ghost town) it was last lived in the early 70's bust was constructed in the 20's  if I am not mistaken

[glenn kangiser]

Wolfer.  That's pretty indigenous.

It's pretty hard to hijack a thread around here if you can get close to the subject or a tangent of it.

I haven't spent a lot of time in Nevada but have East of the Sierras many times as I used to keep a truck at Bridgeport and fly in - go to Bodie - hot springs - and many other places around there.  A very cool area.

I remember NW edge of Mono Lake west of the highway there was a pile of colored glass slag from gold refining and a small wrought Iron fence around a little cemetery in the brush above the road -- side roads.  Been there?

[Wolfer]

TY glen........ YA sure its a slag Pile? There is a couple Places the natives used to go into that area to get obsidian( natural glass) for Knives and Arrow heads...... As for Bodie I have been there Many many time as well as all the areas around there. I grew Up in Luning. A town Of 54 people doesnt offer Many things for a couple of young teens to DO so we took to the hills we started driving at 13 and HAve ridden Motorbikes 3 wheelers and quads My whole Life, not to mention the fact we had a Corral full of horses if needed.

I digress there are Many Places In the Mono lake are YA can Find Places where the Indians Stopped We have found Stone Blinds Used for hunting Birds On the Lake as well as Antalope and deer we have Located ares where they Camped and Knapped Knives and arrow heads Including a stash Of Spear points big as your hand.

Around the fallon Area there are a couple of Places as well. Grimes Point and Hidden cave Both Offer Petroglyphs Hidden Cave was a community shelter. Salt cave aslo offers Petroglyphs and was a part time Living area. Someone spoke Of a round House earlier, in fallon On the res SOmeone has a Massive roundhouse MAde of tires  Next time I get thru that area Ill see if i can grab a Picture to Post Its subterrian for the most part and Is still Used in gatherings today

Stone Cabin and Dugout located In central nevada

[glenn kangiser]

Very Cool pix.  The stone cabin is great.  Were the rock faces smooth on the inside also?  Could you tell any thing about the construction of the walls?

So now tires are an indigenous building material.  That is an interesting development with newer natural resources.

Yes - I'm pretty sure about the slag pile as it is colored melted glass.  I have been to the obsidian areas around the mono craters.  Hauled a few pieces of it and featherstone back in my airplane.  There was a silver mine above Lee Vining at about the 10000 foot elevation also.  I had old film pix of it from flying around it.  Never find them now.

[Wolfer]

They are just as they appear on the outside.  Glen ill start another thread on Mining /slash homestead cabins  I really Jacked this thread which wasnt my intention

[glenn kangiser]

No problem.  Sounds great.

[glenn kangiser]

1400 BC Turkey

http://www.rincondelmisterio.com/derinkuyu-la-misteriosa-ciudad-subterranea-de-turquia/en/

[glenn kangiser]

I came across a cool website from Afghanistan with a pictorial called Life in Adobe Houses.

No commentary - just pix - I had to view it in IE as it didn't work in Firefox.

http://quqnoos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2253&Itemid=53&lang=english




45 pix I think.

[glenn kangiser]

Found the first part in the Wayback Machine.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070704011909/www.countryplans.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1135060015

[glenn kangiser]

Long time - no new info here...

I told Annie, our international student guest from Taiwan that we enjoyed learning of indigenous housing information from other countries.  She said she was going to send me some information and even though she was busy getting caught up on her studies after her visit here, she kept her word and sent a link to Fujian indigenous architecture.

I touched on this subject a bit 4 years ago when John, a professor in Xiamen told me of it.

Annie knew another name for this architecture, Tulou, and sent me a link to more information.

Tianluokeng Tulou cluster



As I was studying up on the subject a bit I found that these earthen homes worked as a home for family clans but also as a fortress against groups of armed bandits -sometimes up to 10000 of them and even an army cannon firing 19 rounds against the wall but only making a small dent.



The lower walls may be of rammed earth with stone, lime, sand depending on the local flood level then go to earth above.  There were no windows in the low levels as they were storage, foundation and protection - up to over 6 feet thick tapering to 3 feet thick at the top..

They were even built to a CODE - how about that..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yingzao_Fashi  written around 1065 AD.  That makes ours a newcomer....

The upper windows could be used for shooting from and in some cases there were special corridors for getting to defense positions quickly.


No concrete reinforcement here.  Earth, stone, bamboo, sticky rice.  Unconventional by our standards but some have stood for over a thousand years.


How about a well in your own kitchen -







More info including enough instructions to build your own I think.... at the link Annie sent me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujian_Tulou

[UK4X4]

Here's a few

dung earth and twigged frame house- estado Sucre Venezuela, the wifes parents live next door, three generations lived there that we know about - putting it around 200 years old, latter added concrete repairs- tin roof and even a light bulb




The mother in law, my daughter and the new extension, earth quake area so the woods tied together to allow for movement 

Some nice hardwood chainsawed planking, and yep we just slaughtered him for dinner


Gran Sabana Pemon indian travel hut- they are set out along all the major trails as they walk from village to village, stop sling your hammock and your good for the night

[John Raabe]

Very interesting photos UK4X4.

The stilted doggy platform tent is a more modern invention I presume.

[glenn kangiser]

Very Cool, UK4X4... Thanks for posting this.  It reminds me of Mexico.