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Title: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on October 20, 2009, 08:57:01 AM
Hi All... My first post here, so let me introduce myself. I am Ron and my wife Patty, this all started about a year ago for us and have been going ever since. We bought 10 acres of land in Ontario with a small 18 foot trailer and pond on it.

After searching the internet and finding this site, we have been in tiny cabin mode lol... We have decided on a 10X10 cabin with loft for our first stab at this. The dream gets bigger, but no need to share that now.
At the end of last winter we took the chainsaws and the dogs and went in search of that "perfect spot" for our cabin. We found it and here is a picture on it in late spring:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00070.jpg)

I have been using kijiji and other resources to "gather" my supplies over the summer. The pile was getting quite large so I thought it was time to start the cabin. On Friday I was able to get the floor framed in and foundation set:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00453.jpg)
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00454.jpg)

We returned Saturday and put up the walls:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00467.jpg)
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00470.jpg)

Lots of work to still go, but hey the dream has started... I have been doing all my cutting at home, so rafters are in the plan for this week, as well as I just secured 22 sheets of plywood for $50 :)...

The total we have spent to date, not including the plywood is $24.00... I am trying to reuse, recycle, beg, borrow all the the materials... We have found a local saw mill that is giving us slab cedar for the siding no charge :)...

Well that's all for now, just wanted to share with all of you out there, and I will update as progress continues...

Cheers,
Ron
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: mldrenen on October 20, 2009, 09:10:37 AM
welcome.  i'll be following this thread with great interest, as i'm starting a 10'x10' cabin on my property within the next few weeks.

good luck, and keep us posted!
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 20, 2009, 09:15:27 AM
That's cool, Ron and Patty.  

Thanks for posting this project.  I especially like to see others making use of recycled materials and other natural and un-natural resources to make a low cost home or other structure. :)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: MountainDon on October 20, 2009, 09:38:18 AM
 w* to both of you. That's a fine lot you have with the lake frontage. Is the frontage private or is there a public easement? You also have a fine bunch of thick trees. Are there plans for thinning and reducing cire danger?

Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Dad on October 20, 2009, 09:39:36 AM
Looks very impressive- great start! I'll forward the link to Uncle Mike, who always wanted to do something like this. Snow's coming!
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on October 20, 2009, 09:55:39 AM
Hey Don... The frontage is all ours, no access, so very private. Some of the land around the pond is environmentally protected, but we are happy with that.
Yes I have in the plans to do some thinning of the tress, but time isn't on my side. Maybe over the winter...
Thanks Dad... fun working with reused wood let me tell ya lol....

Thanks to all for the comments...
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: upa on October 20, 2009, 09:58:35 AM
Congratulations on a great piece of land and great start, looking forward to seeing more. Great looking goldens, they look just like ours
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Yonderosa on October 20, 2009, 11:17:16 AM
Welcome.  I look forward to watching your progress.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Redoverfarm on October 20, 2009, 02:24:52 PM
 w*

That is awfully small for two adultts.  Add the dogs and it will be very comfy.  Are your plans to have a small loft?  Is there utilities near by or will you go off grid?
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on October 20, 2009, 02:54:38 PM
Yes my plan does include a loft for sleeping... I am also trying to incorporate some storage in the floor (still in the planning phase for that)... No utilities for quite a way, so we will be off the grid, and I think it will stay that way :)
Forgot to mention that we have 7 kids too LOL....
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Redoverfarm on October 20, 2009, 02:59:23 PM
 rofl  rofl rofl
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Osprey on October 20, 2009, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: grover2044 on October 20, 2009, 02:54:38 PM
Yes my plan does include a loft for sleeping... I am also trying to incorporate some storage in the floor (still in the planning phase for that)... No utilities for quite a way, so we will be off the grid, and I think it will stay that way :)
Forgot to mention that we have 7 kids too LOL....

Perfect no need for heat.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Redoverfarm on October 22, 2009, 08:51:39 PM
Grover I was just curious on why you framed the walls before the floor?  Generally (but w/exceptions) the subfloor is laid on the floor joist and then the walls are erected.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on October 23, 2009, 06:45:25 AM
Hey Redover,

I really don't have any good explanation as to why I did it that way... the biggest reason, was at the time the floor was "undetermined" and we were kicking around ideas of roof sheathing, or the cedar slabs for the floor... After picking up all the plywood yesterday, I am thinking that I will take down the walls and place the floor on as you suggested... If I don't I will be putting in a 2x4 on its side for further support of the walls... Some times as the dream becomes alive we miss some of the simplest details...
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: speedfunk on October 23, 2009, 10:09:34 PM
Good luck on the dream. 

Our dream is to be as self sufficient as possible, so we can be free to enjoy this crazy trip :) 

I really look forward to seeing you progress.   It will be tough at times but I'm sure it will be worth it.  Unless your dream is to blow up the world  d* , then not so worth it.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Bobmarlon on October 24, 2009, 01:00:16 AM
congrats on getting your dream going make sure you get lots of glue for your floor. 
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on October 24, 2009, 06:36:39 AM
Curious as to why I would need lots of glue for the floor?

Thanks Bobmarlon and speedfunk for the good luck wishes.... thinking I will need them ;)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on October 24, 2009, 06:45:41 AM
Update:

Well this week I have learned alot (which I am sure is never enough) about rafters. We have decided on a 8/12 roof with gable ends (thanks to the link for easy rafters :)). Also thanks to all who chimed in about the loft support, I have a plan now and with any luck it will be strong enough...

I ended up passing on the OSB that I had lined up for a better deal.... 42 4x4 OSB sheets and 50 2x4x8 for $120 (reclaimed from a wedding dance floor).... should be enough wood to finish the project I hope.
Today is cutting rafters, spacers for the walls and floor, and loft support. Tomorrow (weather permitting) we hope to get up to the cabin and get the roof on, as well as clean up a few other things that need to be done. I hope to have pictures for you all soon of that progress...

Total $ todate - $178.85

Supervisor Saloman lol

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC00461.jpg)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on October 26, 2009, 07:41:47 AM
Well the other things took up more time than expected. We did get alot of the wood delivered up to the property that we need to get it closed in before the snow flies:

Truck loaded up:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00473.jpg)

We put spacers in the floor and walls as you can see here:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00475.jpg)

We also added wood to attached the floor to when it gets fastened down.

We started to put the loft in, but we soon decided that we should get the walls sheathed in. We ran out of time for that, but here is where the "cabin" stands as we left it..
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00476.jpg)

Always next week to get more done ;)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on October 30, 2009, 04:54:42 AM
Well I managed to take the afternoon off yesterday and get over to the property to do some work on the cabin. All and all a great afternoon, I was able to "tidy" up a lot of stuff.

Some windows I was able to pick up for free:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00478.jpg)

Picture from the loft facing north west:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00489.jpg)

Picture from the loft facing south west:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00491.jpg)

Picture from the loft facing south east:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00492.jpg)

Picture from the ravine looking up at the cabin:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00495.jpg)

The next trip up to the cabin will likely see some sheathing go on the building. Most of the materials are up there to complete the cabin at this point.
All and all its going well, certainly have learned a lot about building a cabin in the woods, so things should be easier the next time around lol...
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on November 01, 2009, 06:27:50 AM
Well it was a crappy day weather wise, but Patty and I managed to get a lot completed yesterday. We were able to get the ridge board and rafters on...
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00500.jpg)

As well as 90% of the roofing:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00510.jpg)

And most of the walls, except were the door will be:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00509.jpg)

Here is an inside shot if the loft:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00513.jpg)

Really happy with the cabin now... I hope to return today and get the rest if the roof completed as well as the gable ends...

Still learning a lot but enjoying every minute of it :)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: mountainmomma on November 01, 2009, 12:06:37 PM
Nice progress Ron and Patty!! Really coming together now. One thing I noticed, you see those lines on the inside of the roof on the o.s.b. on that last pic?  Those are nailing lines, they go on the outside. The side with the writing is for the inspector, that goes on the inside.   ;D  But I know how things get comprimised trying to beat the snow. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 01, 2009, 07:35:21 PM
Grover not trying to beat you up or anything but a little constructive critisim.  On your next house  ;D  when you run your sheeting try not to allow the sheets to join when going from one course to the next.  I realize that you were working with 1/2 sheets but you will get a lot stronger bond if you stagger the seams.  With no larger than you are building it will probably be just fine.  Your sheeting adds rigidity to the walls.  If they are staggered it will be more rigid.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on November 02, 2009, 07:50:13 AM
Thanks all for the tips and suggestions.... I never claimed to be a builder ;), but as I said in a earlier post I am learning a ton of stuff...
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on November 03, 2009, 10:19:14 AM
Just some pictures I forgot to add the last time we were up there. I know that the tape is to hold the Tyvek type material, but we will not be using any, so I taped the seams for good luck I guess...
Here is a 32x80 steel door that I re-claimed from a metal bin:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00520.jpg)

We managed to get the one gable end complete:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00518.jpg)

And the other is not complete yet, as I am still trying to locate a window for it:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00517.jpg)

Inside picture of the loft:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00519.jpg)

I have got a lead on some metal roofing for $50 (again reclaimed) and hope to pick that up today. Finishing the floor and the roof are next in my list as well as getting our wood stove installed up there...

Busy busy busy ;)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: poppy on November 03, 2009, 10:51:26 AM
Happy to see that you are making good finds on windows, doors, and such.  It's a good lesson for all of us.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on November 16, 2009, 08:00:36 AM
Well in the past week Patty and I have been busy at the cabin. We managed to stay there from Tuesday to Sunday morning. What a feeling to actually sleep and stay in something we built. Here are a few pictures of the progress we made...

First window installed:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00575.jpg)

Patty worked on insulating and finishing the floor:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00580.jpg)

The fireplace was brought up and put in place:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00597.jpg)

We enclosed the openings temp, so we could stay:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00623.jpg)

Patty shimming up the door:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00631.jpg)

We installed some metal around the stove:


Picture from the front, with the door installed and the gable end closed in:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00642.jpg)

Reclaimed metal for the roof, it was on a historic building in our town at one point:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00655.jpg)

Installing the roof:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00661.jpg)

We managed to get the siding started:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00668.jpg)

Picture as we left for home:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00683.jpg)

Here are some pictures of the inside... We didn't work on the loft, as we concentrated on work outside, but it was cozy and with each day of work the cabin really seemed to stay warmer and warmer...
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00652.jpg)
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00649.jpg)
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00651.jpg)
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00650.jpg)

We really had a lot of fun getting the cabin this far. Hopefully some insulation inside and some more siding will get completed in the next couple of weeks.

Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: PA-Builder on November 16, 2009, 07:09:16 PM
One thing for sure ... with that stove ... you won't need to worry about being cold.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Arizona Highlander on November 16, 2009, 08:09:56 PM
Killer job! Looks cozy and warm in there.
Great job on all the deals you find.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Sassy on November 16, 2009, 11:16:05 PM
Nice job - really does look cozy  8)  The used tin for the roof was a great find!  I am amazed it is only 10'x10' - looks much bigger with all you've managed to put in there.  Hey, it looks like Patty was doing all the work  ;D
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 16, 2009, 11:18:27 PM
Cool job.  That metal roof is great - good stuff just like we used on our walls - except ours went through a fire.  That's all part of what makes it cool.  

I guess if it's good enough for Bass World, it's good enough for my wife... [waiting]
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Sassy on November 16, 2009, 11:23:58 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Jens on November 18, 2009, 09:00:20 AM
I think it looks awesome.  I love the siding, roofing, big woodstove in tiny cabin, metal roofing around stove, cute little vanity.  Learning a lot, and it ain't costing you much.  Cheers.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: speedfunk on November 18, 2009, 12:08:10 PM
Very cool siding choice.  The roof and siding look very nice together and the interior does feel pretty roomy.  Very nice job.

Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: considerations on November 18, 2009, 12:11:20 PM
Makes me smile - enjoy!
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Post by: poppy on November 18, 2009, 12:13:37 PM
Really liking the low cost materials.  [cool]

I am no framing expert, but it is my understanding that the ridge board is supposed to be wide/deep enough to cover the rafter ends.  Someone else who really knows could weigh in.  ???
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on November 18, 2009, 12:31:16 PM
Thanks all for the comments... The cabin is quite roomy and when we get the bed up in the loft and a sofa there it will be great. I still have 2 windows to install, one on the south wall, west side and a small window in the loft (which we decided on for safety in case of fire). Both windows were free...
Sassy, Patty is an awesome worker :), but she doesn't think to take pictures when we are building... I assure the forum that I have not worked her to hard and done my share lol ;)...
Poppy, I have a 2x2x10 that I am going to attach to the lower edge of the ridge board. I think that I read that some where here, so I plan on filling it in with that.

We are planning on siding the entire cabin with the cedar slab wood, as well as a lot of the wall coverings inside will be done with it as well (peeled before putting inside though).

Can't wait to get back up there and get some more done :)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on November 18, 2009, 12:54:15 PM
Just a $$$$ update... So far we have spent $520.00 on the cabin (not including fuel to get to and from it or beer during the building process).

Some stuff you just can't find, or get reused (tape, roof screws, nails etc...). Still not too bad though I think, but I am over budget by $20.00... shhhhh don't tell Patty lol ;).
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: speedfunk on November 18, 2009, 01:27:09 PM
Ah yes...beer..we forget that in our calculations also.  $$$$$$$$$.  No owner -builder should be without.  A good few beers at the end of the day looking back over what you just did!   8)   

Nice numbers .  Our 8x8 cabin came to 900 (without woodstove).  So looks like your on your way to beating this easily!!.  Our major expense was cedar shakes even though we used the "undercourse" type.  Did you get your log siding from a lumber mill nearby..Just curious..

Jeff
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on November 18, 2009, 02:00:54 PM
Hey Jeff... Yes I did. The lumber mill is actually between where I live and the cabin location, so its easy to stop and pick up a truck full.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: poppy on November 18, 2009, 02:56:21 PM
Beer doesn't count.  :)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Dad on November 20, 2009, 11:44:30 AM
Lookin good Ron & Patty!   
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on December 03, 2009, 09:34:24 AM
Well its been a while since my last update, life has been busy and the weather hasnt co-operated lately with getting some work done on the cabin. We did get up there to install the chimney fascia and get some more boards on the outside.

Here is the outside...The flat board is where the porch roof will attach...

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00691.jpg)

Finally found the right fascia for the stove pipe I had...

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00701.jpg)

Pile of Cedar Slab wood...

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00702.jpg)

2x4 pile is getting low!!!

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00705.jpg)

On the gable end we will put the cedar slab wood vertically not horizontally like the rest:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/DSC00698.jpg)

I am hoping to get up there in the next week or so to get the loft sorted out. It would be nice to have that done before the winter hits us. I also have the insulation up there to do, as well as the vapor barrier... Heres hoping!!!!
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: poppy on December 03, 2009, 11:46:37 AM
Looking good.  The vertical cedar on the gables will give it a good contrast.

Now how to make that door look rustic.  ???
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on December 04, 2009, 11:20:24 AM
Thanks guys...
Don, yes I have a storm collar, but forgot the caulking gun when we went up there  d* lol... next trip it will be installed...

Poppy, can't agree more about the door... it may get replaced with a wooden door that swings the other way, but for now that one will have to do...

Can anyone suggest how I maybe able to extend the roof over the gable ends? Seems that I miscalculated this part of the roof  d*... Or do you think it will be okay as is... ???

Thanks...
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: rdzone on December 04, 2009, 11:56:28 AM
I would extend the gable ends just to help keep the weather off the main structure.  I would basically build a ladder out of 2x lumber layed out like your rafters one for each side of your gable end.  Then nail them up (screw them or lag them) through your sheathing into the rafters, just make sure to spaced them down so you can continue your roof sheathing.

This is probably not very clear, but someone will come along and explain it better. d*


this might help

http://www.tpub.com/content/construction/14044/css/14044_70.htm (http://www.tpub.com/content/construction/14044/css/14044_70.htm)

Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on December 05, 2009, 06:19:09 AM
Thanks RDzone, that actually makes perfect sense... Another thing to add to my list of things to do lol...
I appreciate the input and suggestion.
Back to the drawing board ;)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: considerations on December 05, 2009, 10:04:48 AM
I like the look of the slab siding, how fun!
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on March 23, 2010, 05:54:51 AM
Hi all.. Its been a while since I updated this site, but I have been updating our blog... you can find it at http://pattyandronsblog.blogspot.com/.

Thanks,
Ron
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: MountainDon on March 23, 2010, 09:49:03 AM
I know it is way too late in the process for this to make any difference, but was there a reason you did not use a weather resistive barrier between the log slab siding and the OSB? It seems that water will find its way behind the log slabs to some degree at least.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on March 23, 2010, 11:20:30 AM
Hey Don good to hear from you... I hope the winter was kind to you and yours...

The simple answer is that I didnt have any to work with. I since have however managed to get some, so I will be doing the rest of the cabin that way, with the possibility of removing the existing slabs and doing under there are well...
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: MountainDon on March 23, 2010, 12:53:35 PM
That would be a good idea. Mainly I wanted to draw attention to this because it is best building practice and I was concerned that a neophyte builder might view the absence as okay.

Winter still has a firm grip on our mountains, 
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Kris on March 24, 2010, 08:18:58 PM
the siding looks great!........
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: MountainDon on March 24, 2010, 09:09:51 PM
The most durable method of applying this (log slab) type of siding would be to emulate ScottA's Deer Run method. He built a rainwall with double layers of felt over the structural sheathing. Vertical furring strips were then applied and finally the siding; he used cedar (?) boards spaced with a slight gap for visual effect. The main problem with the log slab siding like this is all those spaces between slabs where water will enter. It will be fine if built with that in mind.

Many commercial buildings are built with a rainwall type of construction. The material that is exposed to view may be strictly, or mainly, cosmetic. Under the cosmetic layer is the true weather resistant barrier.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on April 04, 2010, 05:38:46 AM
Patty and I managed to get the front of the cabin sided this weekend. Weather was awesome and the cabin turned out better than expected.

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC00898.jpg)

Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 04, 2010, 06:37:00 AM
Ron without sounding critical of your cabin I just noticed something that bothered me.  On the gable end it appears that the siding protrudes past the plane of your roof.  I would consider extending the roof on that end (and the other if built the sameway) to cover your gable(front) wall. There is a great chance that the water(rain) will drop behind the siding.  Cool looking getaway.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on April 28, 2010, 01:48:04 PM
Hi all... been a while since my last post and I wasnt sure I was going to post any more... But I have decided that I would continue the posts until I am done, hopefully inspiring you and your project to look seriously at what can be done with a little determination and resourcefulness (if thats even a word lol)...
I wish to thank everyone here that has offered suggestions to my cabin and I assure you that I have made notes to things that need to be fixed. The idea of this cabin was to build it from re-used and recycled materials, which at the best of times are not easy to come by... so yes we may have missed a few things along the way that need to be corrected, and with time and scavaging I am sure we will get it there. I do not claim to be a builder, nor to I suggest that you follow my building technics, but if I can share one thing its that most of this cabin would have been in a landfill... We love our cabin, its ours and we are quite proud of what we have done...
Cheers,
Ron

Here is a recent pic of the cabin... we got the porch deck floor finished and will be working on the porch roof soon...
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC00919.jpg)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: speedfunk on April 28, 2010, 02:35:45 PM
I love it Groover.  It's great to see you all getting a great lil' cabin for next to no money.  Also don't sweet the small stuff just build it.  Some people have a tough time building a shack, they think you need to make it anally correct.  They don't understand that it's not meant to have a 100 year lifespan.   A lil water getting in is not the end of the world.  I really like it, esp the raw cut logs as siding!  Very cool!

On our 8x8 I even leave the windows open for long periods of winter.  It gets snow in it ...it dries..life goes on.  It's also on cinderblocks put in the earth 8"'s (typical 4' frost protection).  It has 2x4 floor joists.  It has been fine.  

Enjoying your progress ..thanks for posting b/c this helps people who are building with what they can get ...and shows you can make a nice simple place with minimal experience,tools and money.  That is very powerful!  

Some would like you to believe building is some amazing complex skill set.  In the end it's just a shelter, something man/every creature has been building since the start of time.  Please don't let anyone discourage you from posting ;)
Jeff

Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 28, 2010, 02:50:16 PM
Ron good job.  How deep did the snow get around the cabin this winter.  I am sure you probably got your fair share as most did.  When you get the necessity work done you might consider a shed roof on the porch to be able to enjoy the deck a little more often.  It will just seem to extend your living space some since your cabin is small.  Another benefit is that when the wife tells you to get out then you don't have to sit in the rain    ;D To make it somewhat waterproof a saw kerf into the log siding to slip a piece of flashing in, caulk and let it extend over the roof material( metal or shingles) would work.  Thanks for posting your follow-up .
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: OkieJohn2 on April 28, 2010, 02:56:17 PM
As far as the door, you might look at a few Faux finishing books at the library.  You might be amazed what you can do with a few cans of brown paint in different tones, maybe just some drybrushing.  Hollywood has been doing this for a century, with amazing results.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Terry on April 28, 2010, 07:08:18 PM
I really love your cabin! And please keep posting pictures. You and Patty are doing a great job!
Terry
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on April 29, 2010, 09:51:49 AM
Thanks all for your support and understanding about my post... Please dont get me wrong, I appreciate the feedback here and wish for it to continue, just some understanding of what my goal is was needed I think...

We will be heading up to the cabin this weekend and hopefully getting some work done on the inside now the loft is done. I also have been busy making some cabinets for the kitchen area, which are made from reclaimed wqood from the landfill... I dont think that they turned out too bad...

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC00853.jpg)
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC00884.jpg)

Hopefully with any luck I will have some more pics from the weekend...

Until then cheers,
Ron
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Arizona Highlander on August 18, 2010, 05:59:38 PM
Awesome job you both have done.
Killer to see what one can do with minimal resources.
A true inspiration for me as I would like to build a small 10x10 or so.
My goal is to start next Spring.
I'll keep watching your thread to see what else you do in this small space.
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: considerations on August 19, 2010, 09:25:18 AM
One person's cast offs are another persons treasure!  Now if we could just find surplus vehicle fuel so easily. 
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on May 17, 2011, 04:41:25 AM
Hey all its been a while since my last post so I thought I would update my build. A lot has been done since August up at the cabin, but here is a picture of what it looks like now:

April 27th 2011
The porch that you see is all made from reclaimed materials from that barn tear down we went too. I love the porch it really added to the cabin over all.
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC01581.jpg)
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC01580.jpg)

Inside we have done a bit, but not much so here are a few pics to wet your pallet lol:
Cabinets installed and Patty giving her "stamp: of approval lol:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC01370.jpg)
A/V corner lol:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC01371.jpg)

Side picture of the porch:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC01578.jpg)

"Ron Hortons", no drive thru but the service and coffee is excellent:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC01574.jpg)

And Saloman enjoying a rest:
(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/DSC01573.jpg)

We really havent been able to spend as much time up there as we would have liked to, but hey thats life. I am currently designing a rain water harvesting system for us to get some running water up there. I have also started to investigate solar power as well... Hopefully the next update will be of one of those two...

Hope you enjoy our progress.
Cheers
Ron
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Jeff922 on May 17, 2011, 06:58:19 AM
Very cool you guys!  I've worked in professional design for many years and a cornerstone of my personal design philosophy is this idea:  Straightforward, purposeful, construction using everyday, affordable, and unpretentious materials.  It's been my guiding idea in my Victoria's build.  You have created something that you couldn't buy or hire a contractor to build.  Good job!
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on May 17, 2011, 07:19:27 AM
Hey thanks for the kind words Jeff... We have really enjoyed this project thus far and are looking at an addition already lol...
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: OlJarhead on May 17, 2011, 09:32:41 AM
I love the little log looking cabins :)  Yours has great character!
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Sassy on May 17, 2011, 10:14:51 PM
Very cute  :)
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: duncanshannon on May 18, 2011, 07:53:25 PM
great place!  love the recycled materials!
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Tickhill on May 19, 2011, 04:33:55 AM
Love the look, serves its purpose. Speaking of Ron Horton's, I just got my stash of Timmy's from a friend who had gone to Findlay, Ohio for the week. A Canadian friend got me on the stuff. Looking forward to more pics. Tickhill
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: grover2044 on September 21, 2011, 02:54:53 PM
Hey all its been a while since I posted any thing on our cabin and really not much to update at this time. I am in the process of drawing up and addition that will serve as a kitchen and bathroom area, roughly 8x10, possibly 10x10 again, time will tell lol... I was able to reclaim a load of 2x4's (roughly 80) from a person who was moving, they are going to get put to good use!
We have been up at the cabin quite a bit lately as the fall is out favourite time up there. I have mostly been working on clearing and cleaning up the outside, and Patty is still organizing in the cabin... Our last trip up there we spent the day getting rocks, ok some boulders moved off the path back to the cabin. Good old pry and sweat method worked like a charm!

A couple of pictures:

My new Sthil Farm Boss, man this thing loves to eat through wood!!

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/Cabin%20updates/DSC01757.jpg)

This is a picture of the back of the cabin where the addition is going on. I cleared up some of the trees that we fell to build the cabin where it is now:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/Cabin%20updates/DSC01762.jpg)

This is the view as you walk up to the cabin, took a while to "clean" it up, but its looking great now:

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/Cabin%20updates/DSC01774.jpg)

And lastly a picture from the front porch looking over the fire pit area.

(https://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv254/grover2044/Property/Cabin%20updates/DSC01771.jpg)

Hopefully some vaction time coming up in October so the addition should be started then.
Until then cheers and stay safe!
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: Huge29 on March 18, 2013, 01:31:07 AM
Looking good!  How is the expansion coming along? 
Title: Re: 10X10 Cabin In Ontario.... The dream begins...
Post by: powellbd on February 17, 2017, 08:51:54 PM
    I have read your 3 page post of building a 10x10 cabin in Ontario 3 times now each time hopping for update and more pictures. We also live in Ontario in Muskoka and are doing the same on a piece of property, is there any more to your story and how do I get to it.   I had to stop my construction for 2016 when winter set in and will start again as soon spring will let us    powellbd