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Title: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on January 06, 2006, 08:41:01 PM
(From John R. 11/26/07)

There are many pages of information about this fine owner builder house. (Click blue page numbers at top left to go directly to a page.)
• Here is a link to COSTS (http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=1071.170) - scroll down 2/3's of page where Jimmy explains the $28,000 he has spent getting to this point.
• To see the customized Floor Plan Layout and early construction photos scroll down this page.
• Link to the construction PLANS (http://www.jshow.com/y2k/listings/57.html).

Here is a link to Jimmy's Photo Update  (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimmycason/sets/)(outside the forum on Flickr)

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/jraabe/jimmy-c-1.jpg)

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/jraabe/jimmy-c-2.jpg)

Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40
Post by: glenn-k on January 07, 2006, 05:42:03 AM
Nice collection of pictures, Jimmy.  It really adds to your story.  The keywords you used in your title should allow us to find this several ways.

Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40
Post by: glenn-k on January 07, 2006, 05:57:45 AM
That sounds like a good idea, Daddymem.  I'm going to leave it to John to do if he sees fit, --too many choices on board settings for me.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40
Post by: Daddymem on January 07, 2006, 06:57:30 AM
I think it would be a huge help, thanks.  I just remember that fateful day I typed "Country Plans" into Google and was directed here.  It was very intimidating, this didn't have the face of a DIY site, all the posters had the appearance of being experts and here I was barely knowing how to hold a hammer.  I saw the gallery and thought those were beautiful houses but I can't do that.  I eventually saw some posts with owner builders and saw they weren't very different from me...but that took a while, there are sooooo many posts on here.  You might not think to search for posts showing construction of the plans on this site.  I think if I found the forum for the first time and saw a section "Projects by CP Members" and there were all these people of different backgrounds building their own beautiful homes it would have convinced me sooner to take up a hammer (yeah, yeah, hammer is getting in this hand soon enough).  I have a feeling there are a ton of lurkers on this board who may be convinced to start their own project up and we may never hear that they exist, but they would be thrilled to have a single place to get ideas on building their own dreams and maybe they will share a blog, photo page, or their own website.  I know Mommymem and I plan on documenting how far we have gone and documenting our progress, probably like Dustin.  I can also think of many times I tried to find the picture I saw on CP, but for the life of me I couldn't...I knew it was a 20x30 1.5 story...but who???

Sorry, the IT Manager side of me coming out I guess...my mantra "make it easy and they will use it"  :D
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40
Post by: jraabe on January 07, 2006, 08:25:13 AM
Good suggestion Daddymem - and thanks Jimmy for the updated photos.

I will try to get this new forum set up this weekend and then both Glenn and I can move threads around once we have the structure in place.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40
Post by: Daddymem on January 07, 2006, 09:26:56 AM
Wow! Quick action, looks great!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40
Post by: glenn-k on January 07, 2006, 09:40:55 AM
It really works out nice - it comes out right in the middle of the forum front page.  No more looking all over the place for examples. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40
Post by: Daddymem on January 07, 2006, 10:47:39 AM
Jimmy's post is the perfect prototype!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas
Post by: phalynx on January 08, 2006, 11:55:02 AM
Jimmy,  Do you have a drawing or plan you can post on the extra 6 feet on the 20x40?  I am interested to see where you used them.

thanks,
Scott
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on January 08, 2006, 02:09:16 PM
Quote
Jimmy,  Do you have a drawing or plan you can post on the extra 6 feet on the 20x40?  I am interested to see where you used them.

thanks,
Scott


This is a rough drawing of what I have in mind. The  only thing that is for sure right now is the 20x40 perimeter and the location of the stairs. As I build it I am able to better visualize what will work better or look better.Things like move this door here, make this door a sliding door, move this closet here, ect.


(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/FIRSTFLOORa.jpg)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/2ndFLOOR.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas
Post by: jraabe on January 09, 2006, 04:40:48 PM
Nice layout Jimmy. Feels spacious.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on February 17, 2006, 05:15:31 AM
Just delivered Feb 16th, Second story 3/4"sub-floor, Windows and doors for the first floor,
Tyvek wrap for the first floor ( I Know, I Know....)
Because of the weight, I was afraid to let the delivery guy put the pallet of sub flooring up on the joists. So I had to lift and partially install 25 sheets of 3/4" by myself. At least I didnt put in 1-1/8" like I did on the first floor! I ran out of daylight before I could finish and had to go back to work Friday. I will head back out there Saturday if the road conditions will allow. We are finally getting some winter weather here in Texas. I seem to schedule my deliveries according to bad weather!

Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Chuckca on February 17, 2006, 12:26:29 PM
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jimmycason40/detail?.dir=ac0b&.dnm=5540re2.jpg&.src=ph

Take a look at this image.  Where is the crawl space on the low side (left)?  I thought you needed 18" min for ground clearence all around.  How are going to lay a moisture barrier and install insulation?  Looks close to me on the low side.  I'm a newbie here and haven't built YET.  Set me straight.  Thanks!  

Btw:  Your project is looking sweet!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on February 17, 2006, 01:21:54 PM
Quote
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jimmycason40/detail?.dir=ac0b&.dnm=5540re2.jpg&.src=ph

Take a look at this image.  Where is the crawl space on the low side (left)?  I thought you needed 18" min for ground clearence all around.  How are going to lay a moisture barrier and install insulation?  Looks close to me on the low side.  I'm a newbie here and haven't built YET.  Set me straight.  Thanks!  

Btw:  Your project is looking sweet!

(http://i1.tinypic.com/nyv7yw.jpg)

That picture is a bit deceiving. Look below at this earlier pic of the same side.
My frame is made up of 3 support beams, then I added the 2x8 floor joists.
The double 2x12 board across the front was added as an after thought.

The support beam on the left is about  6- 10" off the ground plus 11-1/4" for the 12" beam That puts my floor joists
around 18 inches above the ground.


I knew it was a little on the short side of what it should be. But I did this to keep the far right side under 5 feet off the ground. I hope I dont have to fight it later on.
all of the lumber on the platform is treated except for the subfloor.


(http://i1.tinypic.com/nyv7g2.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: jraabe on February 18, 2006, 08:30:00 AM
You shouldn't have any problem with access there. The framing looks great and the PT joists and all will give you a very long lifetime. What kind of treatment does the wood have, and what was it like to work with? I know many areas have phased out CCA wood and the newer stuff is supposed to be safer to use and work with.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on February 20, 2006, 06:55:13 AM
I am pretty sure it was CCA. But, it might not have been. I bought the Pressure treated wood from McCoys lumber around March 2005 and it was still very wet. So maybe it was one of the newer treatments. As far as working with the wood, It was a little more difficult that the non-treated because of the weight. It was much heavier. It was a little more difficult cut.


I didn[ch8217]t get any work done this weekend. We had freezing rain all across North Texas.   It was hard sitting at home knowing I have material there and waiting to be installed!
 
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: glenn-k on February 20, 2006, 07:20:08 AM
Don't feel too bad, Jimmy - we still have six inches of snow.  I plan on shaking off some of it today and doing at least something. :-/
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on February 21, 2006, 08:20:25 AM
Quote
Because of the weight, I was afraid to let the delivery guy put the pallet of sub flooring up on the joists. So I had to lift  25 sheets of 3/4" by myself. At least I didnt put in 1-1/8" like I did on the first floor! 

Working alone tip#201

This is how I got those 3/4" 4 x 8 subfloor sheets on top by myself.
I nailed a 4 foot long 2x6 across a couple of 8 foot 4x4s. Placed the 4x8 sheets up on the leaning assembly and ran inside, up the ladder and pulled the sheet on up.  


(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/jig.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: pforden on February 21, 2006, 10:48:25 AM
Jimmy,
Thanks for the terrific pictures.

What part of Texas are you in?

Penny
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on February 21, 2006, 11:30:32 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimmycason/sets/


Hi, Penny

The nearest town is called Rhonesboro. Pop.40

Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: phalynx on February 21, 2006, 05:35:11 PM
Jimmy,

If there was a clapping Smiley, I would give it to you... The plywood verticle assistance device, which is the name of the patent I just submitted, is great.   ;)  Such a simple way.  I sometimes forget that neccessity is the mother of all invention...      applause from Scott.....
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Boatz on February 28, 2006, 04:11:21 PM
It's looking real good, Jimmy!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: glenn-k on March 05, 2006, 09:14:20 PM
Go Jimmy.

Is there any hidden significance to getting a toilet for a birthday present? :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on March 09, 2006, 07:20:49 AM
Quote
Go Jimmy.

Is there any hidden significance to getting a toilet for a birthday present? :)

I told her, That is a "CRAPPY" Birthday gift.. But, it is one I will use everyday.
Sometimes several times a day!
She is not real keen about the wall mount urinal I wanted....
Just wait until I build the shop!

The significance is.... HURRY UP AND GET IT DRIED IN!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: jwv on March 09, 2006, 06:06:13 PM
Hey Jimmy, you (or someone at your house) have great taste in doors.

(http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/42bf5ca3z825a4481/ac0b/__sr_/6c30re2.jpg?phoEPEEBAxPv.F_W)
Jimmy's house

(http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/42ba323cz70da5709/e567/__sr_/a608.jpg?phoEPEEBgjR8dwVS)
Front door in our CO cabin

I think the glass is a little different but still very much the same.  I fell in love with it when I saw it.  

Lowe's??

judy

(Judy - I tried to edit, but couldn't get the images to post. Do they show for others?, John)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on March 09, 2006, 07:50:03 PM
Quote
Hey Jimmy, you (or someone at your house) have great taste in doors.
(http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/42bf5ca3z825a4481/ac0b/__sr_/6c30re2.jpg?phoEPEEBAxPv.F_W)


(http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/42ba323cz70da5709/e567/__sr_/a608.jpg?phoEPEEBgjR8dwVS)
Front door in our CO cabin
I think the glass is a little different but still very much the same.  I fell in love with it when I saw it.  
Lowe's??
judy
(Judy - I tried to edit, but couldn't get the images to post. Do they show for others?, John)


I dont think Yahoo pictures allows direct linking. I posted the pictures in photobucket.

From Judys post:
I think the glass is a little different but still very much the same.  I fell in love with it when I saw it.  
Lowe's??

Jimmys reply:
Yes it was Lowes for the front and back door. And Home Depot for the French door.
The person with good taste would be my wife, Lisa. She knew what doors she wanted before we decided what house to build!

Front door in our CO cabin
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/clr.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/door2.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on March 12, 2006, 05:26:13 PM
We got the stairway done this weekend.


(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/stairs3.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: glenn-k on March 12, 2006, 07:52:01 PM
 [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]  Good Job, Jimmy
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on March 20, 2006, 03:36:54 AM
[highlight]Update weekend of March 19th, 2006[/highlight]
Six inches of rain this weekend. It was not a total loss. I pre-built some my 6 foot walls for the second story.  We will carry the sections upstairs as soon as we have weekend without rain in the forecast.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_6218.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: glenn-k on March 20, 2006, 06:51:25 AM
Nothing like trying to hog all the rain, Jimmy. :-/

We've had plenty too -and snow.  Sure slows progress.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas update 3-25-06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on March 27, 2006, 01:42:55 AM
[highlight]Update weekend of March 25th, 2006 [/highlight]

The 6 foot walls on the second floor have gone up!




(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_6288.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 3/25/06 
Post by: John_M on March 27, 2006, 05:15:35 AM
Looks great.

I have a question.  Are you going to use a ridge beam?  If so, what size were you planning and how long will it be?  Is it going to run the entire length (spliced) or will you use two smaller pieces?

Just curious...I can't quite figure out how I am going to do mine.  I o like the idea of the braces you appear to have on either end to support it.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 3/25/06 
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on March 27, 2006, 05:46:15 AM
I will use a single 2x12 ridge beam. It will be spliced in the center of the house. The spliced section will rest on the wall and header assembly of the upstairs stairway entry. I am going with a cathedral ceiling and will be using three 2x10s-built up making a beam that will be used as a collar brace in the center of each room at 8 feet from the floor.  The ridge beam will rest on the center board of the built up center post. I modified the drawing to make my main support beam to the center of the house. This decreased the kitchen and dining area width. So my way may not work for you.

Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 3/25/06 
Post by: John_M on March 27, 2006, 05:57:58 AM
Ok...I can visualize that!!  Can't wait to see some pics though!  Would be great if you could get a couple of close-ups of that!!  Thanks!!  I'll keep my fingers crossed for you for good weather!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 3/25/06 
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on April 10, 2006, 07:24:23 PM
[highlight]Update weekend of April 8th, 2006[/highlight]





(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_6288.jpg)

(http://i1.tinypic.com/v5wu3p.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 3/25/06
Post by: Sassy on April 10, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
Wow!  You are really making headway - lookin good!  8-)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 3/25/06
Post by: peg_688 on April 10, 2006, 08:26:53 PM
[size=12]  Lookin good Jimmy :)  Keep on truckin :) PEG


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Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 3/25/06 
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on April 24, 2006, 08:54:41 AM
Update weekend of April 22, 2006


 


Sunday Morning
(http://i3.tinypic.com/wbdy4i.jpg)


The rafters Are started!
(http://i3.tinypic.com/wbdzir.jpg)

The internal bedroom wall
(http://i3.tinypic.com/wbdzl5.jpg)
(http://i3.tinypic.com/wbdzq1.jpg)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/2ndfloor.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 3/25/06 
Post by: Amanda_931 on April 25, 2006, 06:41:21 PM
Progress is good.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on May 08, 2006, 11:39:40 AM
Jimmy's Photo Update: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimmycason/sets/


Getting closer..Slowly.....
We have the rafters up on the back half of the house.
22 more to go to complete the roof framing...

I have the dreaded blue roof wind catcher..

(http://i2.tinypic.com/xgjyb6.jpg)



Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jochen on May 08, 2006, 12:09:30 PM
Congratulation Jimmy. Awesome progress.

Jochen
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: glenn-k on May 08, 2006, 05:48:27 PM
Looking great, Jimmy. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: jraabe on May 08, 2006, 07:12:39 PM
I like the blue roof. You can probably stop right there and move in.  ;)

Might have to replace it in a year or two.  (hold it down with four big staples and a square of tarpaper):)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: pioneergal on May 21, 2006, 08:48:00 PM
Jimmy your house is looking awesome.

I'm assuming the pictures in your other album posted on May 19th is of the interior and that you have moved in your new home.

It looks awesome.....love the ceiling!

What did you use on the floor?
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on May 22, 2006, 05:23:54 AM
Quote
Jimmy your house is looking awesome.

I'm assuming the pictures in your other album posted on May 19th is of the interior and that you have moved in your new home.

It looks awesome.....love the ceiling!

What did you use on the floor?

The other album I have is a collection pictures from of other peoples cabins.
I clipped the pics from AAA-DAY's (Amy and Dan), and Micky's photo album.
They both had several things I wanted mine to look like.
I created the second album so I could have quick reference.
I Guess I need to go in there and label it as that!

When I am finished building everyone will know it!





Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: pioneergal on May 22, 2006, 07:46:44 AM
Quote
Quote
Jimmy your house is looking awesome.

The other album I have is a collection pictures from of other peoples cabins.
I clipped the pics from AAA-DAY's (Amy and Dan), and Micky's photo album.
They both had several things I wanted mine to look like.
I created the second album so I could have quick reference.
I Guess I need to go in there and label it as that!

When I am finished building everyone will know it!

 ;D yeah I know what you mean!

I was envious there for a moment thinking that you and the family had taken up residence in your new abode.


Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jochen on May 25, 2006, 03:04:48 PM
Jimmy,

Can you let me know what kind of roof pitch your 20 x 40 has? Already planning the new building for my former wife and the children.  :)


Jochen
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on May 25, 2006, 04:51:32 PM
I hate to admit this but... I don't know how to figure roof pitch.
I drew many different heights of the roof until my wife and I agreed on a pitch that looked pleasing to the both of us.

Maybe this will help..

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/front1.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/front2.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Dberry on May 25, 2006, 05:39:03 PM
Very close to a 12/12 pitch roof.     And it is very smart looking.  :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: MarkAndDebbie on May 25, 2006, 05:58:58 PM
Quote
Very close to a 12/12 pitch roof.     And it is very smart looking.  :)

Maybe closer to a 13/12? or is that a 12/13? Too late here for trig...
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jochen on May 25, 2006, 06:04:18 PM
Jimmy, thanks for the drawing. And I would also say very close to 12/12. You mention a 47 degree angle on your drawing. So the opposite of that is 43 degrees and this is the actual roof angle. And that is very close to 12/12, 45 degrees.
Jochen
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: glenn-k on May 26, 2006, 01:24:28 PM
You know about using the framing square to get your pitch, Jimmy?

12" on each leg is a 12/12 pitch.  It refers to how far vertical to 12" horizontal.  6/12 would be 6" up to 12" horizontal.  The square can be used to lay out your cuts this way too.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on May 29, 2006, 08:04:24 PM
A little more progress.
Photo Update: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimmycason/sets/


(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_6437.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: glenn-k on May 29, 2006, 08:14:05 PM
The place is really looking great, Jimmy.  How many trips have you made up and down the scaffold?
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Sassy on May 29, 2006, 08:24:38 PM
It's just so amazing seeing everyone's progress!  Just think how far you've gotten on your own home!   8-)  It's exciting to see what can be accomplished.  I bet John gets a real thrill out of seeing how people have been given the vision & courage through learning from each other on this forum to get past those mental blocks!  :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on May 29, 2006, 08:40:02 PM
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 How many trips have you made up and down the scaffold?

 I can promise you I've only made enough trips to get the job done.
And to pick up my stupid gravity-prone hammer.

Home Depot, Tyler Texas
Scafflod Rental.....
I had to start the rental on Saturday, May 20..
They could not promise me the scaffold would not be rented by someone else on the 26th when I wanted to start using it. (Three Day Weekend+ Friday off= 4 days of work )
The truck shows up at 2:30 Friday.
All of the safety rails outriggers, leg jacks. NO SCAFFOLD FRAMES or cross braces!!!
I call the home depot rental department and they tell me they will not be able to get a truck with the frames to me until the holiday weekend is over..
After a few phone calls I get them to deliver the frames the next day.
Saturday... THe truck shows up at 8:00am. They unload the frames, there are no cross-braces!
I had to drive 53 miles (one way) to Tyler Home depot and get the braces myself. Later that day I attempt to put the safety rails at the top of the tower and find out 5 of the large connecter pins are missing.
So later that afternoon I made a second trip to Tyler home depot.


Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: glenn-k on May 29, 2006, 08:53:22 PM
Sorry I mentioned it, Jimmy --made you relive the nightmare.

How about the jackup ones that run up and down 4x4's or double 2x4's - just buy a set then you won't have to worry about it -- I think around $69 each.

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000224MP.01.PT02._AA280_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000224MP.01.PT01._AA280_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000224MP.01._AA280_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000224MP/qid=1148965349/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_8/104-5186366-3280720?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=hi&v=glance&n=228013

These were used on a 2 1/2 story building near me.  Looked good.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: peg_688 on May 29, 2006, 09:42:00 PM
Glenn your brave  :o Jimmy's  mighty tired by now and well  hoo brother :o

 The $69.00 only gets ya the jack in the lower photo , the work stands / guard rail deals are extra plus the 2x4's for the poles .

 Anyway ya Jimmy ya should have asked  :-[

 Better duck now Jimmy's from Texas :o :o

  
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on May 30, 2006, 07:55:13 AM
I am just happy to see the front wall almost sheathed in.
No Texas wrath coming from me...( This Week!)

How long does it take to jack one of those down from 20 feet high?

I seem to have this problem with hammer dropping.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Sassy on May 30, 2006, 08:24:48 AM
Jimmy, I consulted with Glenn (he's driving to Napa & wanted to know if there was anything new on CP) he said to
"place a ladder against the scaffold or wall to make it easier to climb down   to get that gravity hammer."  Also, you can just use 2x4's for the guard rail & 2x12 scaffold plank to walk on unless you want to purchase the expensive accessories  :-/ - disclaimer - if you fall off don't come running to Glenn & if you can't run, don't come crawling  :-/

BTW, Glenn says it reminds him of a joke... "what do you call a dog with no legs?  Nothing, it couldn't come anyway."   :)    ::) (the roll eyes is me)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: nandajor on May 30, 2006, 11:28:20 AM
Roof Pitch for Dummies The hubby has tried to explain roof pitch, more than once, to me.  If I understand it :o, it refers to how many inches of rise for every 12" of horizontal, to the center or ridge.  Example:  a 4/12 roof line, rises up 4" for every 12" of horizontal distance.  Bet that confuses you! or is that exactly what Glenn already said?  Nanda
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jochen on May 30, 2006, 01:09:14 PM
Yes Nanda, that is exactly what Glenn said before!!  ;)
And Jimmy your house looks gorgeous to me!!
Jochen
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: peg_688 on May 30, 2006, 06:33:45 PM
 Ya a ladder on the staging or go in a door or window hole .

 Pumpjacks used with 2"x12" x16' Doug. Fir staging planks , the "x" bracing  helps take the sway out . A 2nd set will MLT be put on as the jacks go higher.

   (http:// http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May302.jpg )

   (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/may303.jpg  )

 Note ladder onsite  for when it's needed.


  Hammer holder,

  (http:// http://www.medfordtools.com/occidental/toolholders/5012.jpg )

   ;)


  Safeway ( pipe staging ) is a PITB to level even with the jack screw legs , tends to sink wierdly , is very hard to climb up and down , always seems to be ,"In it's own way" ,  And like you found out vital parts aways seem to be missing , rusted , bent etc .

 Some times they are the only thing that will work so I'm not saying never  But it's a rare deal when they are my choice of staging.  
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on June 05, 2006, 07:08:49 PM
After all the hard work of setting up the scaffold, I decided not to move it until the area in front of it is complete.
 So we started with the hardieboard this weekend




(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_6446.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Daddymem on June 06, 2006, 02:13:56 AM
Lookin like a home now Jimmy.  Good Job.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: glenn-k on June 06, 2006, 10:16:27 PM
Sounds like a good plan, Jimmy.  Don't do it twice if not necessary. :)

Looking great.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 6/18//06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on June 20, 2006, 05:17:44 AM
A little bit closer...

We changed our mind about the reddish brown trim.
We will paint the trim around the door and the side corners the same color as the body of the house.
The windows and shutters will be the same green color as the metal roof and porch overhang.

An interesting note about the paint....
The color we are using seems to change during the day.
Depending on where the sun is in the sky.  
I wonder if this is because we built the house under a near total tree-canopy. The light seems to be filtered through the green leaves.






(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/b.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: glenn-k on June 20, 2006, 08:11:03 AM
Really moving along , Jimmy.  It's starting to look like a complete house now. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Amanda_931 on June 20, 2006, 05:32:25 PM
Yes it does.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Sassy on June 23, 2006, 02:06:13 PM
That will look really pretty!  8-)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 5/08/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on June 26, 2006, 06:44:53 AM
I added a little trim work this week.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/b-1.jpg)(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_6473.jpg)

Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 6/26/06
Post by: deertracks on June 26, 2006, 09:22:24 PM
The shutters look great. It's starting to get that finished look outside. Is that a deck over the porch? I really want inside photos even if the rooms are unfinished. It helps me visualize 20 feet wide...it looks so small on paper. Sometimes I pull up the info on the 14x24 houses and that makes our future 20x36 seem large. Keep up the good work Jimmy.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 6/26/06
Post by: glenn-k on June 26, 2006, 09:36:58 PM
Looks great Jimmy --
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 6/26/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on June 27, 2006, 06:34:27 AM
Quote

1. Is that a deck over the porch?

2.I really want inside photos even if the rooms are unfinished. It helps me visualize 20 feet wide...it looks so small on paper.

1. That is my attempt at drawing  the front view of a sloped metal roof coving the porch. A side view would make it easier to visualize.

2. I have a few cell phone pics of the inside.
My wife is always on hand in case I need 911...
I built 6 foot walls upstairs with a cathedral ceiling.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/a-2.jpg)

The same area just to the right.
The boards you see in the center are supports for the catwalk,
this helps me do do all the work at the top without going up and down a  ladder.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/b-2.jpg)

Another view of the same area with me baking at 98 degrees for 6 hours.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/c.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 6/26/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on July 25, 2006, 10:54:09 AM
The latest pic... I finally got to the point where I could move the scaffold.
Things seem to have come to a crawl once I got above the 12 foot mark.
We have the metal roofing on from the front to about halfway back. No ridge cap as of now so I am covering my new metal roof with a tarp. Aint that a b*tch?

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/close.jpg)(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/b-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 7/25/06
Post by: dmlsr on July 30, 2006, 01:47:35 PM
what size roof raffers

D
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 7/25/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on July 31, 2006, 11:43:05 AM
I used 2x10 for the rafters. With a 2x12" ridge beam and 4 support columns, Supporting  both ends, and two places near the center at 10 ft apart.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 8/25/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on August 25, 2006, 01:29:48 PM
One more step crossed off my list. The trench has been dug (180 feet) and the power and water line have been buried.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/power.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/power2.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 8/25/06
Post by: jraabe on August 25, 2006, 02:30:18 PM
Nice job on the project Jimmy. Those shutters do look good and you have a good looking window layout. Little things do make a difference!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 8/25/06
Post by: glenn-k on August 25, 2006, 05:19:19 PM
Great job, Jimmy.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 8/25/06
Post by: desdawg on August 26, 2006, 05:17:37 AM
Very nice Jimmy. Do you have to pour a concrete cap on the electrical conduit? I would have to do that here if I was that shallow.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 8/25/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on August 28, 2006, 08:07:13 AM
Quote
Very nice Jimmy. Do you have to pour a concrete cap on the electrical conduit? I would have to do that here if I was that shallow.

No concrete cap need here.
In the picture it is not pushed all the way to the bottom of the trench.
It is buried 24 inches deep. That is what the electric company said I needed so that is as deep as I dug.
What scares the jeepers out of me is the fact that the septic guy will need to cross over my line with the septic pipes!  180 feet of triple 4/0 guage wire is not cheap.  
I did get to finally use power from the power company this week.  

No more generator!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 8/25/06
Post by: glenn-k on August 28, 2006, 01:10:46 PM
Locate the line for the septic guy before he goes through, Jimmy -- open it up with a shovel so he can eyeball it.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 8/25/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on August 28, 2006, 01:24:41 PM
We put out little flags to mark the crossover. But, I think I will take your advice and dig it out for them.
 The septic guy told me if anyone ever tells you they haven't hit a power or water line before, they are lying or it's their first job.

He quote 4500.00 four months ago. This included a lift pump to push the stuff uphill to the lines.
When he came out this weekend he said costs have gone up and we would need to pay another thousand dollars for him to do the job.
After 30 minutes of back and forth pricing we will up paying the orginal 4500.00 plus the permit fees of 300.00.

I feel like I got screwed but this was the only septic company out of 5 in my area that returned any of my calls.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 8/25/06
Post by: glenn-k on August 28, 2006, 01:30:40 PM
His price sounds pretty good, Jimmy.  If you expose the line for him he won't have any excuse so it should be easy to get him to pay for it. ::) :-/
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 8/25/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on September 15, 2006, 08:18:30 AM
Major milestone today!     Stardate:September 15,2006

After paying $4500.00 + 300 in fees...  

The septic has been installed and passed inspection!!!

Now where can I find one of those chinese toilets?
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 8/25/06
Post by: glenn-k on September 15, 2006, 10:40:44 AM
Ken Kern made his own squat plates.  I think he may have passed the knowledge on to John when he was working with him. :-/ :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on September 25, 2006, 11:18:17 AM
I have new pics of the inside. They are cell phone pics so they are kind of blurry and dark




(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/144665972101_290.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: Sassy on September 27, 2006, 06:32:57 PM
Looks really nice - you're just about there!  I like the look with the shutters - adds a lot of character to the home.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: glenn-k on September 27, 2006, 07:59:41 PM
Even a blurry cell phone picture is great.  A couple years ago I bet you didn't think you'd be here taking this picture now.  Great job, Jimmy. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: MIEDRN on September 27, 2006, 08:05:23 PM
You must have the cathedral detail in the upper story? I wondered how that would turn out and it looks fantastic, doesn't it?

You've done a great job and it's a nice plan!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: cedarglen on September 28, 2006, 07:50:28 PM
Jimmy I hope to break ground on the using john's universal 2 story plans in April, what is the overhang on your eves? 1 foot?

Charles
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on September 29, 2006, 06:08:04 AM
My disclaimer: I modified my set of plans quite a bit so I am not sure about the engineering aspect, But I added a lot of internal support and bracing . I feel safe with the changes I made or I would not let my family live in it.

I made mine a little different than the standard eave, I used 16 ft 2x10s with the end of the eaves horizontal with the ground. I saw this style on a cabin at camp when I was younger. I could not find anything like it on the internet. I hope it is okay, cause thats what I got!

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/eave2.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: jraabe on September 29, 2006, 07:27:46 AM
I see no problem with your wall detail. Here is a snap of an earlier photo where Jimmy shows the framing diagrammed above.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/jraabe/jim-wall.jpg)

Looks like you have extended the spacing on the rafter ties from 4' oc to 8' in the open area. While this is less support than shown in the plans, you have good strong clips between the rafters and the wall plates and you have a working ridge beam/board with a 2x12 supported at four points by columns as you mentioned earlier.

The place is certainly looking handsome and you are doing quality work.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: MB25ACRES on October 19, 2006, 07:59:26 AM
Jimmy the progess looks great. I noticed the plans now come with cathedral ceiling option. I do not know if that makes the side walls on second floor shorter, or not. I had what I thought would be an interesting idea, maybe someone will show me the error of my thoughts. on the second floor I am thinking about a cathedral ceiling with lofts over the bedrooms to extend 1/2 to 3/4 over each room. this would basicly make two story bedrooms. with a ladder. the kids would have thier beds in the loft so that the lower area would be all open for playing ect. when I was growing up I had a bed that was suspended from roof and attached to wall. I really liked it.I wanted to ask what your costs for your house are so far, and how much more do you think it will cost to finish. thanks Mike Barrett
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on November 06, 2006, 11:10:20 AM
Hi guys! Sorry I've been away for a while.
[highlight]I moved into my new home.    Yea!!!!! [/highlight](still in progress)
The layout feels so spacious The two rooms upstairs are huge! Even after putting the king size bed in place!
I started a new job and have been working many many hours and we have no internet access where I built so I have been out of touch for awhile.
I found a nearby library that has computers and internet so I will be able to check in more often.
We had our first big thunderstorm last night. NO Leaks!
The sound of the rain was very soothing on the metal roof.
The sound of acorns hitting at 50 mph will bring you out of a dead sleep!
I will update my pictures as I get settled in. See you guys later!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: Kodakjello on November 06, 2006, 11:40:09 AM
Congratulations!  I can't wait to see photos of your finished house, I'm sure it looks great.  :)

Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: Amanda_931 on November 06, 2006, 03:30:14 PM
Moved in.  

How nice.  Sigh.

(and I haven't even gotten started!  >:( )
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: glenn-k on November 06, 2006, 07:03:23 PM
Thanks for checking in, Jimmy --- I was getting worried about you.   :-/

I was actually wondering how you were doing just the other day.  Sounds great, ---and you just started a short time ago. :bhumbsup
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: cedarglen on November 18, 2006, 09:20:21 PM
[size=12][highlight]New Readers: [/highlight][/size]

A well documented review of the 2-story Universal Cottage project. Many photos and updates. Thanks to the owner and their fine work... Questions and replies follow. (John Raabe 7/07)

======================================================================

Jimmy, working mostly alone and assuming that you have all materials on site and ready to go how many days do you figure it would take you to frame your house (assuming you were working 8 hour days) I am talking about just the min to get the house minimally dried in. (no interior walls, etc). Just frame the platform, 1st floor exterior walls, 2nd floor platform, 2nd floor exterior walls, rafters and sheithing on the whole thing? I am building the Universal 2 story as 20x32'. The crawlspace foundation and septic will be subbed out finished in April 2007, probably finished by the end of April. I will be working on every other weekend only and hope to get dried in by November.  
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 9/18/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on November 27, 2006, 12:56:18 PM
I started Framing last Thanksgiving weekend!  52 weekends.
But.. I took a lot of breaks in the summer months!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 12/06/06
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on December 06, 2006, 12:34:15 PM
Here are a few pics of the downstairs area.
We are living in it now and still continue to add something every weekend.
Insulation for the downstairs has become very important lately!
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/155547418757_290_1.jpg)(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/155548027781_290_1.jpg)(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/155548132741_290_1.jpg)(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/155548425989_290_1.jpg)(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/155547176581_290_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 12/06/06
Post by: pioneergal on December 06, 2006, 01:17:54 PM
AWESOME JIMMY!

It looks great .....it's all coming together.
So happy for you and the family!

Please keep the pictures coming :)

Jackie
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 12/06/06
Post by: jraabe on December 06, 2006, 03:55:20 PM
Merry Christmas and Congrats!

Lights, some furniture, a kitchen, and a tree.

The place looks downright home like!  :D
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 12/06/06
Post by: glenn-k on December 06, 2006, 04:47:30 PM
Looks great Jimmy.  Do you have a long commute to work now?
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 12/06/06
Post by: bizzyPDXgal on December 14, 2006, 09:09:21 PM
Thanks for this tip! Your photos and progress have me totally inspired!

"Working alone tip#201  
 
This is how I got those 3/4" 4 x 8 subfloor sheets on top by myself.  
I nailed a 4 foot long 2x6 across a couple of 8 foot 4x4s. Placed the 4x8 sheets up on the leaning assembly and ran inside, up the ladder and pulled the sheet on up."

I've been buying what I can on interior finishing/cabinets/flooring used/reclaimed building materials. It's exciting to see your home coming together. Thanks Jimmy

Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 12/06/06
Post by: patriotn11 on February 18, 2007, 10:28:03 AM
Hello,

I am new here  :-[ and have a question for Mr. Cason.  I am from San Antonio, Texas and going to build my own home similar to yours.  I want to build on pier and post like your.  I would like to know what the spacing should be for a 20x40 or 30x40 foot house, single story.
By spacing I mean, how far apart should I checker board the posts and should the be 4"x6" or 4"x4" treated posts or if any better type posts should be used.  The ground is hard but easy with a renter auger from H.D.  About how deep would be the best to dig and is there a certain width also.  People say try and bell shape the bottom of the hole, then pour the cement when the posts are level.

Please give me any other pointers if possible.  thanks from San Antonio,  ;D

Michael

Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 12/06/06
Post by: glenn-k on February 18, 2007, 10:50:25 AM
Haven't seen Jimmy for a bit but here is a pix of his foundation.

(http://i1.tinypic.com/nyv7g2.jpg)

What you are speaking of on the footings is like the Big Foot footings. Poured concrete with a mushroomed base.  Post and pier can have a concrete or PT pad below them - usually in well drained gravel.

Here is Johns pier info

http://countryplans.com/foundation/index.html

We don't  have any examples 30' wide.  Nothing official but I would at least add another row of piers.  Johns plans have foundation plans included.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 12/06/06
Post by: jraabe on February 18, 2007, 12:51:59 PM
Yes, for a 30' wide home you will need a centerline bearing beam (with piers) for the floor joists (both floors) and possibly the roof load.

The 20" wide universal is the place to start as it has a foundation plan that can be used as a template. It will be modified if you go to a wider building.

Remember, the foundation is first thing you build but the last thing to be designed. After the roof, each floor and the walls, porches and any popouts are designed then you do a load trace down through the building using the snow and live loads as they accumulate on the walls and beams. The beams and piers under the floor are then placed to distribute these loads over the footings and bearing soil.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 03/29/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on March 29, 2007, 07:35:46 AM
Things are kind of slow now. The inside is insulated but has no wall covering. So not much to show there.
I added my front porch and painted the left side. Thats about it.


(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/b-3.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/a-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 03/29/07
Post by: jraabe on March 29, 2007, 09:09:08 AM
Thanks for the update Jimmy.

I like the look of the place.  :D
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 03/29/07
Post by: glenn-k on March 29, 2007, 08:29:36 PM
Looks great, Jimmy.  Looks like you do quite well at just showing the finished side.  Good Job.

For some reason looking at your house in those pictures reminds me of New Orleans (Before the flood). :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 03/29/07
Post by: Sassy on March 29, 2007, 09:20:12 PM
Yes, your cabin looks great!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 03/29/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on May 30, 2007, 07:04:23 AM
These pics are a little better than the others I posted of the outside.  
Not a lot of extra money to work on the house right now, so I will have to wait to show you guys the inside when it is in progress again.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/13.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/12.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/11.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 03/29/07
Post by: Kodakjello on May 30, 2007, 08:01:42 AM
Fantastic colour scheme and property siting! I'm looking forward to those interior pictures but finishing the exterior is a big milestone!!

Kodakjello
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 03/29/07
Post by: Sassy on May 30, 2007, 08:56:56 AM
Beautiful!  Might use that color scheme on our rental - looks good!  (been trying to think of colors  :-/ )
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 05/30/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on May 30, 2007, 05:18:59 PM
Okay, I'll post a few of the inside. Everyone makes fun of the pictures and things on the walls with no sheetrock.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_6845.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_6844.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_6827.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 05/30/07
Post by: Preston on May 30, 2007, 06:23:03 PM
This is very inspiring!!!  You have built something to really be proud of!  If you were working on it 6 days a week with optimal weather conditions, how long do you think it would have taken?  I really like the layout you chose as well!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 05/30/07
Post by: Sassy on May 30, 2007, 09:00:57 PM
Hey, what's wrong with that?  We still have plastic on some wall areas & insulation showing in other places!  In fact, we still have a dirt floor where we 1st started living - Glenn wanted to be in the cabin, so quick built a bed out of wood he had & put some indoor-outdoor carpet down over the ground & we've yet to move it all out & finish the floor   :-/ - we are probably going to change the wall a bit so will wait until then.   If you wait long enough you don't have to do it twice  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 05/30/07
Post by: glenn-k on May 30, 2007, 09:28:42 PM
Looks great Jimmy.

...and if you wait long enough you may not want to do it at all.  :-/

The important thing is that it is shelter.  That's about all that matters.  Great job, Jimmy. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 05/30/07
Post by: C.White on May 31, 2007, 04:25:34 AM
Your wonderful, open floor plan of the 2 story is making me reconsider the 1 1/2 story to go with the 2 story instead.  I love the way you left it open downstairs and used the space so well.  
The bedrooms, and I'm one of the folks who appreciates you posting the interior pictures, do seem to really have a lot of room in them.  I hope you'll post more interior shots as well.   Believe me, we're not looking at what's not done...
Thanks again for putting your project story in pictures for us to see.  It really helps me stay motivated to build mine this year.
Christina
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 05/30/07
Post by: jraabe on May 31, 2007, 06:05:47 AM
When I first moved to Whidbey Island there were so many people building their own houses as they had the time and money that I remember a new resident who had visited a few of these houses said that it took her a few months to realize that "Certainteed (http://www.certainteed.com/CertainTeed/Homeowner/Homeowner/Insulation/)" was not a wall paper pattern. ;D
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 05/30/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on May 31, 2007, 07:08:40 AM
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 If you were working on it 6 days a week with optimal weather conditions, how long do you think it would have taken?  

Once I started framing It took 104 working days (52 weekends) with 2 men at times, before I could move in!

[highlight]1600sq. feet divided by 104 days= 15.38 sq.feet per day[/highlight]
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 05/30/07
Post by: Preston on May 31, 2007, 12:27:04 PM
I never thought of thinking of measuring time by area, I like it.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 06/15/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on June 15, 2007, 06:20:15 AM

For now just a few fuzzy cell phone pics..

The first 3 sheets of sheetrock have gone up in the living area!  Woo- Hooo!   I am not going to miss the owens corning wall paper!


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Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 06/15/07
Post by: glenn-k on June 15, 2007, 06:54:26 AM
Now you went and changed the entire atmosphere of the place, Jimmy.   :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 06/15/07
Post by: Daddymem on June 15, 2007, 06:58:18 AM
Nice crib Jimmy!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 06/15/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on July 05, 2007, 09:19:50 AM

On July 2nd I had to stop the tape and bedding on the living area due to the severe allergic reaction my wife had to the sanding of the sheetrock texture. We had to take her to the doctor to get a cortisone shot. She is starting her new job on July 5th and I dont want her first week at work to be with puffy eyes and sneezing every two minutes, so I will wait awhile before I try again.



Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 07/05/07
Post by: glenn-k on July 06, 2007, 05:55:53 AM
Some of the texture can be smoothed with a wet sponge instead of sanding, Jimmy.  Don't know if that would work for you or not.

So much for modern toxic building materials, eh.   :-/  

Wow -- hanging out with so many Canadians is making me start to type with an accent, eh. :)

Beauty of a pix, Jimmy.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 07/05/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on July 09, 2007, 04:56:00 AM
The living room is sheetrocked texured and painted!
I used the Home Depot colors "Brown Teepee" and"Red Red Wine" from Behr.

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Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 07/05/07
Post by: Sassy on July 09, 2007, 07:07:10 AM
Very nice job - I like your colors - that little corner there with the red red wine color is so pretty  :) !
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 07/05/07
Post by: jraabe on July 09, 2007, 02:13:57 PM
Nice homey feel. A good place to hang your hat.

Good work. :D
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 07/14/07
Post by: glenn-k on September 06, 2007, 05:26:04 AM
I am currently working on a proposal to build a nice 2 story Universal with viewing deck over the front porch and access from the top floor to the deck in the gold country - at a Historic Gold Mine site actually.

Yours is a great example, Jimmy.  The Universal plans will be modified to suit the owner's preferences. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 07/14/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on September 07, 2007, 06:38:38 AM
Glenn, I am looking forward to seeing the progress pictures!

There is one drawback with the Universal Two Story Adjustable floor plan.  The fact that the adjustable floor plan can be changed at any phase of the project.
[highlight]Wives, slow progressive building, and adjustable floor plans= frustrated owner builder husbands![/highlight]
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 07/14/07
Post by: glenn-k on September 07, 2007, 07:17:12 AM
If the project goes through, I will start a thread on it.  Fortunately this will be for a customer.  Lots of hurdles to cross before we get something going on it though. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 07/14/07
Post by: deertracks on September 07, 2007, 08:12:45 AM
Just checked out your newest interior shots from July...
nice job on the whole project and the decorating.
What's the flooring?
Any kitchen pictures?
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 07/14/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on September 07, 2007, 10:02:34 AM
Thanks Deertracks,
I have added trim to the windows since those pictures were taken of the living area. I am working on adding sheetrock to the kitchen area at this time. I will post some pictures of the work in progress tonight after work.
My flooring is still just 1-1/8" t&g plywood sub flooring. That will be the last thing I add. We are wanting to lay down a nice knotty pine floor using wide planks of at least 6" or more.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 07/14/07
Post by: chatycady on September 07, 2007, 04:15:36 PM
Very nice place. I don't envy you on hanging sheet rock. I've decided never again to hang it or tape drywall! It's a lot of hard work! You've done a nice job on it. Can't wait to see more pictures!

Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 07/14/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on September 07, 2007, 05:02:45 PM
Work in progress.....
The kitchen still has my homemade 2x4s and plywood cabinets. With the fabric covering the face.
We have our eye on some hickory cabinets from Lowes.

Remember............Save a little, build a little!!!

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Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 08/07/07
Post by: jraabe on September 07, 2007, 05:07:59 PM
Thanks for the new photos and sharing your construction information. Very helpful, especially for new builders.

I especially liked the calculation of how many square feet you built in a day.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 08/07/07
Post by: glenn-k on September 07, 2007, 05:31:40 PM
Thanks for the new pix, Jimmy.  The place is looking great.  We went to the mine today and looked the site over.  With the complete design being able to be modified there is no way I won't be able to come up with something that will please the owner.  I had them take a few example pix and floor plans to kick around a bit.  This house is like it was meant to be for their location.  Rather than the porch roof there will be a viewing deck with a railing around it and French doors or similar to the deck.

Your house makes it easy for them to visualize what they want.  They also want some natural wood -- maybe even log accents -- I brought them to my place to show them so they could get some ideas. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 08/07/07
Post by: deertracks on September 07, 2007, 09:31:57 PM
Ah....the Lowes "in-stock" hickory cabinets.
Such a value! Does your local Lowes have the in-stock type
or are you looking at the special order ones?
About the floor... Lumber Liq. had some good pine prices.
Have you checked their website?
If I remember right, the honey pine was $1.69sf
Thanks for posting the kitchen pics. Will be looking forward to
your finished look.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 08/07/07
Post by: pioneergal on September 08, 2007, 06:26:31 PM
Jimmy your house is very pretty ... I love the colors!

To be honest I do envy you being able to be living in your dream home.

We're not there yet but hope be very soon.

The exterior is about 90 % complete and we're now working on the inside.

Keep the pictures coming!

Pioneergal
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 08/07/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on September 10, 2007, 08:35:46 AM
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Does your local Lowes have the in-stock type
or are you looking at the special order ones?
About the floor... Lumber Liq. had some good pine prices.
Have you checked their website?
If I remember right, the honey pine was $1.69sf
Thanks for posting the kitchen pics. Will be looking forward to
your finished look.

They have everything we want except for the 60" sink base. I wonder how much more that will cost me.

I wll check out Lumber Liq. for flooring, but that will be the final thing I add inside.
 I have no idea how long that will be!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 08/07/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on September 10, 2007, 08:38:52 AM
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Your house makes it easy for them to visualize what they want.  They also want some natural wood -- maybe even log accents -- I brought them to my place to show them so they could get some ideas. :)

I wanted to use a lot of natural wood.
But, my wife did not want our place to look like a cabin...
She still calls it a cottage!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 08/07/07
Post by: HaydensMom on September 15, 2007, 11:33:07 AM
Hi Jimmy,
I was just quickly looking through all your pictures. I am more of a visual person I think!! Anyways your homes is looking great. You guys must be very proud. Lots of ideas for me to steal when we finally get around to building our house!! So I really appericate all the pictures. :) I love the Christmas pictures. It kind of reminds me of little house on the paririe. LOL, the fabric on your cupboards. My grandparents moved into their house while in the process of building like you guys and that is what your Christmas kitchen pics remind me of.
Keep the pictures coming!!!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 08/07/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on October 02, 2007, 05:55:35 AM
I started installing the cabinets in the kitchen this past Sunday (Sept.30,2007)
No more cupboard curtains! I bought the Lowes Unfinished Oak.
The lower cabinets are just "In Place" And need to be secured. I ran out of time and my wife wanted to see what it would look like!

[highlight]Fuzzy Cell Pic[/highlight]
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Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 08/07/07
Post by: glenn-k on October 02, 2007, 06:44:26 AM
Looks great, Jimmy, although we have found that we kind of like the curtains ourselves.  No doors to open and close and decor is easily changed - if the wife does it. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 08/07/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on October 10, 2007, 05:49:57 AM
The kitchen area is 10' x 12' Measured from the outside of the counter tops
Unfinished oak cabinets from Lowes... Stained with english oak.
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Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn-k on October 10, 2007, 06:43:52 AM
Really looking great, Jimmy.  We used a similar American Woodmark HD cabinet in our other house - The are holding up well.

Nice counters too.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Preston on October 10, 2007, 07:38:26 AM
"My frame is made up of 3 support beams, then I added the 2x8 floor joists.
The double 2x12 board across the front was added as an after thought."

Hey Jimmy,

What did you use for your 3 support beams?

-Preston
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40  Texas (Pics)
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on October 10, 2007, 08:46:59 AM
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"My frame is made up of 3 support beams, then I added the 2x8 floor joists.
The double 2x12 board across the front was added as an after thought."

Hey Jimmy,

What did you use for your 3 support beams?

-Preston

Treated    Triple 2x12x20's  Bolted together, nailed, and glued for each beam. I staggered the joints to reach 40 ft long.

Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Preston on October 10, 2007, 08:52:22 AM
Thanks Jimmy!  We're going to be building a similar foundation and are working the numbers and building the material list...
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Preston on October 10, 2007, 09:09:03 AM
Jimmy,
Did you do a price comparison of what the difference was for the 2x6 vs 2x4 for your house and have you noticed a significant difference in energy usage?

Thanks,

Preston
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on October 10, 2007, 11:59:49 AM
The 2x6s cost about 25 to 30% more. But, I wanted to make sure I built it stout. (Thanks to PEG)
With a 2 story I think you need the wall to be 2x6??
 2x6 walls seemed to be easier to work with as far as balancing walls and working alone, this was a great help.
Cost has never really been an issue with me and my materials. I only buy what I can afford at the time. I find what I need, then save until I have enough to start the next project. I owe nobody! And this house is all mine!

As far as the electric bill.....
I have 3 window units, a clothes dryer that runs one load every day, and an electric water heater.
This past August I kept the temp at 69, while it was 100+ outside.
$145.00 For the month of august. The highest so far. NOt bad for total electric.
I need to get off the grid!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Preston on October 10, 2007, 04:08:06 PM
I'll have to find out about the second floor and te 2x6's..... :-?  
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on October 14, 2007, 06:46:49 PM
I finally bought batteries for my camera. These are the latest pics. (Non Cell Phone Pics!)

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Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: deertracks on October 14, 2007, 07:33:27 PM
You should be so proud... everything looks great and that fact it isn't owned by the bank is
such a bonus!!
Wondered why you decided on the unfinished oak cabinets instead of the hickory?
Also, I know that different Lowes carry different "in-stock" cabinet brands.
Do you know what brand yours were? They sure are a great value.
I am thinking out our lighting and wondered if you have found any spots where you
wish you'd have added more lighting?
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on October 15, 2007, 06:47:05 AM
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#1 Wondered why you decided on the unfinished oak cabinets instead of the hickory?

#2 Also, I know that different Lowes carry different "in-stock" cabinet brands.
Do you know what brand yours were? They sure are a great value.

#3 I am thinking out our lighting and wondered if you have found any spots where you
wish you'd have added more lighting?

#1 My wife thought they would make the kitchen look too much a cabin. She wants the "Cottage Effect".

#2 I don't remember what the brand name was.

#3 I only need more light at the stove. We will install an under the cabinet microwave ans vent/light assembly, so that should help.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Preston on October 15, 2007, 09:48:18 AM
Looks Great!!  Everything goes together very nicely!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: deertracks on October 15, 2007, 06:35:54 PM
Thanks for the answers. We are after the cabin look so I guess we're on the right track
with hickory!
I remember earlier in your thread there was a discussion about cottage vs. cabin.
Your wife has a great cottage look going on... really like the colors and decor.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Preston on October 16, 2007, 04:44:50 AM
Just trying to get a feel for size here, are the stairs on the other side of the wall (to the left) of where the chair/mirror/side table are?
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on October 16, 2007, 07:16:58 AM
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Just trying to get a feel for size here, are the stairs on the other side of the wall (to the left) of where the chair/mirror/side table are?



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 [size=12]Below is my approx layout from when I started. A few things have changed in the bathroom and kitchen area. [/size]

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Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: C.White on October 16, 2007, 07:51:14 AM
I really like what you've done with the space.  The new cabinets are really nice, and the colors you are using are wonderful.  

What kind of flooring are you planning on using?  
Also, I noticed you are leaving the floor joists exposed, and I plan to do this too.  Did you have to really pick through the wood to use nice ones? or are the general joists looking nice enough.  I will be doing the same.  
Christina
  
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on October 16, 2007, 06:14:51 PM
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#1 What kind of flooring are you planning on using?  

#2 Also, I noticed you are leaving the floor joists exposed, and I plan to do this too.  

#3 Did you have to really pick through the wood to use nice ones? or are the general joists looking nice enough.  I will be doing the same.  
Christina
  


#1
I will save the flooring for last.
 I want to install some type of real hardwood floor using planks that are at least 6" wide.

#2
I will eventually cover the ceiling joists with 1/4" pine and then stain or paint. The only thing showing will be the center beam.  We have tossed around the idea of installing a few faux beams off of the main beam to make it look kind of like the victoria cottage ceilings.


#3
 Home depot wood has many "decorative knots" in it!
The cheaper the grade, the better it looks.
It is not a good idea for structural building.
I found the cheap 1x4s for my trim work look much better stained than the better grade wood with no knots! That was an unexpected surprise.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Preston on October 17, 2007, 05:17:47 AM
Thanks Jimmy, that helps a lot to see the stairs there as well!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Homegrown_Tomatoes on October 17, 2007, 07:35:37 AM
Jimmy, I love the red wall... before I moved north, I don't think I would've ever painted anything red, but seems like in Wisconsin's cold climate, it has become one of my favorite colors... I think in all the public rooms of our house, it's in there somewhere.... guess it has just really grown on me, and it looks perfect in your house, too.  (The truth is, cold weather makes you crave warm colors, ha ha... One day my husband came home to find I'd moved everything out of our living room.  He asked me what on earth I was doing, and I told him I intended to paint the house because it was so dark and cavish.  He started griping about the price of paint, and I reminded him that it was most likely cheaper than Prozac... a little color changes the whole mood of a place.   ;) Nice going... it is really cozy and pretty.  You've got a really nice place there.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Sassy on October 17, 2007, 09:34:27 AM
Very "cottagy"  :)  nice decorating touches - you should be really proud of your accomplishments!  To think that just a short while ago you were wondering if it could be done!  
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: MountainDon on October 17, 2007, 03:52:20 PM
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... a little color changes the whole mood of a place.  
Many people do like we did for years... whites and off whites. So dull. So safe. I do like that wall too, and the bold tile floor. That's a really bold move, not so easy to chnage if you tire of it.

It took years for us to to get to the bold colors. In between the original white and present day colors we incrementally explored more color, but looking back those were very baby steps. Some walls are still painted in off whites, but every room now has at least 2 walls with bold colors. Raspberry in the kitchen, a Teal and a Tan in the LR, Green and Yellow in the master bedroom, 2 tone Greens for the office and a Maroon and Tan for the spare bedroom (son's old room), an a Mauve and Purple for the master bath.

We have some fairly bold floor tile in 3 rooms as well.  :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jonathan on October 22, 2007, 07:50:35 AM
Jimmy,

I'm sure you've had a lot of time to think about cost.  Can you answer some/all of these questions?

1.  What do you think the total cost will be when it is finished? (not counting land)
2.  How much will that be per square foot?
3.  If you could start over have you seen any place you could have trimmed cost?

Your house is looking great!  You must be proud... I would be... er... WILL be... someday. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on October 22, 2007, 06:47:49 PM
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Jimmy,

I'm sure you've had a lot of time to think about cost.  Can you answer some/all of these questions?

1.  What do you think the total cost will be when it is finished? (not counting land)
2.  How much will that be per square foot?
3.  If you could start over have you seen any place you could have trimmed cost?

Your house is looking great!  You must be proud... I would be... er... WILL be... someday. :)



Answer to question #1

 I really have no idea what the final cost will be. Let me explain that statement...
 Because we are living in the house already, I have the luxury of getting the "feel" for the next project.
So far everything has been planned then re-planned.
The more my wife and I think about the next phase in our house the more time we change out minds. For instance, we liked the look of the completed/ready to install "Hickory"cabinets at Lowes.
After two weeks of going to the store every other day and looking at the display, then going home and trying to visualize what they would look like installed in our kitchen we decided to go with the unfinished oak cabinets and put a light water based stain on them.
( Hickory cabinets.. $2700.00   Unfinished Oak $1700.00)
That one choice saved us a thousand dollars.
 I try not to let my wife know the price for things so she is able to make a choice about what she likes without being infuenced by the price. It's a hard habit to break after watching every penny for the past 14 years just to get by.
Like I have said before, cost is not really an option now because I save up for the next project by paying myself the money I would have paid on rent or a home loan.

Answer to question#2


I am building 20' x 40' = 1600 square feet

My rough cost so far are:  
Septic   $4800.00
Underground power cable 180 feet from the road to the house $900.00
Foundation    $2300.00  
1-1/8" t&g sub floor   $1200.00  
first floor sheathing and walls . Joists for the second floor.  $2400.00  
Second floor-Sub floor  3/4" t&g plywood.             $850.00  
Stairway, second floor walls, rafters collar tie beams,  
#30 felt, side sheathing and roof sheathing.         $4250.00  
Windows on the first floor   $650.00  
front door $189.00  
back door $149.00  
french door     $295.00  
Kohler kitchen sink 250.00
Kohler "flush 250 ft of paper with no clog" toilet  $250.00
water heater $275.00
Fiberglass shower stall $300.00
Bathroom vanity and mirror $250.00
Plumbing $200.00
windows for the upstairs  $800.00
Front porch       $400.00
Metal roof        $1800.00
Insulation for the cathedral ceiling. $600.00
Sheet rock and paint downstairs  $400.00    
Insulation for 1st & 2nd floor walls $950.00
Hardie board siding & paint      $2000.00
Scaffold rental                         1800.00

     So far I've spent About $28,000 With an unlimited and undetermined amount to follow.
The tax man put my value at close to $98,000.00 as is


Answer to question# 3

The only thing I would have done differently would be to buy the scaffolds instead of renting.
Working only on the weekend will eat up a weekly rental!
 I still need them for the side porches and the garage.

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: jraabe on October 22, 2007, 07:18:21 PM
Jimmy:

Thanks for taking the time to explain your costs and how the process is progressing for you.

I think many owner-builders can see their own project reflected in yours. I remember when I was done with my version of the Solar Saltbox house that we had saved about 40% over a contractor bid price, and that was working with a builder and subcontractors on what the builder and I couldn't do. So I wasn't the owner-builder many folks on this forum are. (Glenn K. I am not! ;))

Anyway, your figures will prove very helpful to others as they plan out their own projects.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn-k on October 22, 2007, 09:09:09 PM
Thanks Jimmy.  You are our official Countryplans Poster Boy. :)  We also appreciate all who take the time to post info to help others. :)

Quote
Glenn K. I am not!

Look at the bright side, John.  You don't have to go under the ground like a mole every night either -- although some of us like it that way. ;D
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Preston on October 23, 2007, 02:28:01 PM
Thanks for the Price Breakdown Jimmy.  This helps a lot to see if my budgeting is close to a real life cost scenario!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Preston on October 26, 2007, 05:25:23 AM
Jimmy, you said you built your beams all the way to 40'.  Does that mean at the end you had a 40' beam?  If so how did you move that thing? :-/
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn-k on October 26, 2007, 05:41:09 AM
My guess would be, built in place until it was 40 feet long.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy_Cason on October 26, 2007, 07:13:03 PM
Quote
Jimmy, you said you built your beams all the way to 40'.  Does that mean at the end you had a 40' beam?  If so how did you move that thing? :-/


To make my 40 ft long beams I used 2x12s  
Each beam contains 6pcs. of 2"x12"x16' and 3 pcs. of 2"x12"x8' .
 Because my post are 8 feet apart the butt joint is always on a post.
Starting from the front of the house.
I placed a 16 ft board on the first, second and third post.
Then built up the beam alternating the layout of the 16 ft butt joints and the 8 ft butt joints. so as not to have more than one butt joint on a beam at a time.
I think I did end up with 2 joints on one post somewhere in the layout.
 But it did have a solid board in the mix of the three rows of boards.
Then glued, screwed and bolts the components together.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/000_2118.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/p1.jpg)


Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: MountainDon on October 26, 2007, 07:21:58 PM
Sounds solid, Jimmy C!!  :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: forestchilde on December 31, 2007, 06:03:56 PM
Hi...newbie here!!

I have to say I am extremely impressed!! You really built this for (so far) under $30k????!!!! Unbelievable giving the housing prices nowadays! My husband and I have considered building ourselves. I just wonder if it's possible with myself in school full time and hubby working full time. I guess I don't have to ask if it's worth the blood, sweat and tears, because it obviously is. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 31, 2007, 06:20:39 PM
I can tell you that Jimmy was here from start to finish - from wondering if he could to living in his creation.  We have a lot of wonderful success stories here and Jimmy's is one of our great ones.

...and  w* to the forum.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: forestchilde on December 31, 2007, 07:38:43 PM
Thanks for the welcome glenn!! I've read through several of the threads here of those building...it's encouraging. Of course my hubby and I just put up a pre-cut shed kit the other weekend and I almost decided I never wanted to hold a hammer again!! We are currently living in a 37 ft. travel trailer...never intended to be in it this long but life throws curves at times. We have to get out of it sooner than later or I'll go nuts. We initially came here (to VA) with the plan to build....it's just taking longer than I thought to come up with a plan. Glad I found this site...actually I had it book marked from a while back. I'll keep checking in!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 31, 2007, 07:59:59 PM
Great -- let us know if we can help.  John's plans are made specifically to be simple for novice to accomplished builders.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy C. on January 01, 2008, 02:40:08 PM
Hi...newbie here!!

I have to say I am extremely impressed!! You really built this for (so far) under $30k????!!!! Unbelievable giving the housing prices nowadays! My husband and I have considered building ourselves. I just wonder if it's possible with myself in school full time and hubby working full time. I guess I don't have to ask if it's worth the blood, sweat and tears, because it obviously is. Any suggestions?

Thanks Forestchilde,
 We are very happy with the way everything turned out.
I could not have built it with out the help I found here.
This forum is the ony reason I attempted the project. 

You asked if it's worth the blood, sweat and tears.........

Every time the first of the month comes around....
  I dont have to write a check to a lendor or a landloard, I know it is worth it!

As far as suggestions....
If you do it like me and pay as you go,
1.   Dont get in a hurry.

2.   Think about what each phase of the project will be.

3.   Figure out how much each phase will cost. 
I spent a couple hundred dollars just on large blue tarps to keep things dry because of the long time span from start to dried in.
 I used mostly deck screws and large nails to hold my framing together. I was suprised to see how fast the little things like that ad up.
The little things are not included in my costs of what I spent. That might add another 300.00 for nails and screws.

4.  Decide if you can do the next phase of the project or will have someone else do it.
I subbed out the electric and the septic.

I dont check in as often anymore so I might miss a message or two.
But I always check my emails at casonjimmy@hotmail.com if you or anyone else has any burning questions.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: CWhite on January 01, 2008, 04:03:34 PM
Hi there,

I have been looking over your pictures (again) and I think you did your tin roof like ours has been done.  I would like to know for sure, and if you've had any problems with condensation forming under the tin, if it is like ours.
We have rafters, then 2 X 4 purlins, then the tin is screwed down to the purlings.  We intend on putting the fiber glass batting insulation between the rafters in a cathedral style ceiling in the upstairs. 

In your pictures of the roof, it sure does look similar.  Did you put any moisture barrier under the tin or on top of the purlins or did you use something between the insulation and the tin? 

I'm going through a building inspector nightmare, and they are threatening to make me take the tin roof off and put roofing felt under the tin across the purlins. 
Thanks for your reply if indeed you find this inquiry.
Christina
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy C. on January 01, 2008, 05:17:17 PM
I used perlins to metal for my roof.
Then placed styrofoam vents and fiberglass insulation.
And I still have a condensation problem.
At some point I plan on spraying Icelene I am told this will stop the problem.
Until then I am using a dehumidifer upstairs. It does a good job keeping it dry.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy C. on January 01, 2008, 05:49:42 PM


(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/Pictures005.jpg)

Cozy Cason Cottage Christmas
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/Pictures014.jpg)

Relaxing in my chair, I am amazed at what I have created for my family!
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/Pictures016.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: CWhite on January 01, 2008, 05:55:57 PM
Thanks for replying so quickly. 
Will you use the spray in insulation leaving the baffles (styrofoam vents) in place?   
Where did you get this information please and how is it that this will fix the problem on condensation?

My ceiling is still in the framed in stage, and the insulation hasn't been put in place yet.  If I can learn from your experience and avoid any further problems, I'll be grateful.

I also need to have my facts in order before I meet with the building inspectors again so that I won't have to take the metal roof off and do it their recommended way.  I do believe there must be another way.

Thanks again,
Christina
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: MountainDon on January 01, 2008, 06:05:27 PM
The sprayed in place Icynene would likely fulfill all requirements (as well as reducing rain noise) without having to tear anything apart. But not without some cost.

 ??? ???
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: CWhite on January 01, 2008, 06:18:02 PM
That cost is relatively small compared to removing the roof entirely. 
Will you leave the styrofoam vent in place?
thanks,
Christina
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 01, 2008, 06:41:02 PM
Okie BoB is the king of Icynene here -- he loves it.  Sounds like that could solve your problem.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: CWhite on January 01, 2008, 06:53:06 PM
Well, thanks
so, who is Okie Bob?  How do I ask him a question or two? 

Your place is so terrific.  I built a house that was paid for years ago with an x-husband type person.  It seems several life-times now.  It was a real point of pride to have nothing but a land payment for 4 years to get it out of the bank scene.  I've used some of what I learned then to keep the cost on my new house down, but not like you have done.  That is truly an accomplishment to be proud of. 
The Christmas photos look so inviting. 

thanks again,

Christina
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: MountainDon on January 01, 2008, 06:53:50 PM
I'm not quite sure what the styrofoam vent is. My understanding of the Icynene is that it gets applied directly to the metal and it sticks there and that's it.   ??? :-\

Okie_Bob's got some pictures on his blog
http://bobdanaslakehouse.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html
scroll way down to 06-03

Okie Bob   http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=178
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy C. on January 01, 2008, 07:05:54 PM
Will you use the spray in insulation leaving the baffles (styrofoam vents) in place?   


I will remove the baffles then spray directly on the perlins and metal.
Okie Bob is who told me about the Icynene.



This is a pic I found on google of the vents.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/163vent.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: PEG688 on January 01, 2008, 07:09:40 PM
 The  Styrofoam "vents" Jimmy was talking about can be made of a few different materials, card board is one other.

 They are really baffles or a way of consistently keeping the vent space open , They insure the fiberglass batt doesn't get pushed to far up blocking the air space / vent space.

 You would NOT use those the insulation will be sprayed into / on to the under side of the roofing FILLING the rafter / purlin / attic space fully . No "air flow / venting " required.

 Jimmy issue is what I have been talking about.  That goofie dew point  :( that sets itself up.

 Your problem will / may  be finding a installer in your area.  Hopefully there is one down your way, but that type of insulation is #1 Spendy #2 generally found where insulation is really needed , Ga. may be to mild a climate for anyone to have tried to sell that type insulation.

 You also will more then likely have to teach the local inspectors about the spray foam type insulation, IF you can find some one to do it for you.

  G/L PEG 
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: PEG688 on January 01, 2008, 07:11:28 PM
 Ya , what Jimmy said  ;D   d* Cross post  d*
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: MountainDon on January 01, 2008, 07:18:22 PM
Ahh!  d*  I added cardboard ones in my attic when I added a bunch of blown in cellulose on top of the fiberglass batts that lay on the ceiling. I just couldn't get the 'dots' connected at first. Doh!  d*
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: CWhite on January 02, 2008, 04:20:15 AM
OK thanks.  I think I understand it all now. 
You would be surprised at what is available here in Georgia.  The spray in insualtion is used all the time in the more expensive houses, and I live close to many "gated communities" where no expense is spared in their construction.  I just haven't made an effort to make my house cost as much as it possibly can in the construction.   
The building inspector even brought up the option of spray in insulation under baffles to use as a moisture barrier as an alternative to pulling up the roof, so that is why I'm looking into it here.   An engineer signed off on that method on another roof they tried to mess with and it was the only one of 3 this past year that didn't have the roof taken off and felt appiled under it as per their instructions.   
Thanks again.  Today starts my battle....sorry for hijacking the thread for my own purposes.  But I found some answers. 
Christina
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 02, 2008, 06:24:46 AM
We don't worry much about hijackers here as long as someone benefits.

Note that Icynene doesn't even require vents - but better go over that with your inspectors and engineer also.

If you vent it, that could cause the condensation issue you are trying to stop.  No air=no condensation.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: PEG688 on January 02, 2008, 08:37:21 AM

 
We don't worry much about hijackers here as long as someone benefits.

Note that Icynene doesn't even require vents - but better go over that with your inspectors and engineer also.

If you vent it, that could cause the condensation issue you are trying to stop.  No air=no condensation.



 Excellent points Glenn ! 8)

 Sort of team spirit,  every one learns , shares , all good ! 8)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: MountainDon on January 02, 2008, 12:52:04 PM
The building inspector even brought up the option of spray in insulation under baffles to use as a moisture barrier as an alternative to pulling up the roof,
When you say "spray in" you do mean the expanding foam type of insulation don't you. I only ask as my head does funny things at times and I had a fleeting thought they were talking about "blown in" wet cellulose?  ???  d* I especially wondered that when the inspector quote above mentioned using it under baffles. One of the big points about Icynene and other wet applied expanding foams is the ability of the closed cell type to act as a perfect vapor barrier.

If none of the above applies.... never mind.  :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: CWhite on January 02, 2008, 01:25:22 PM

When you say "spray in" you do mean the expanding foam type of insulation don't you.

Playing with the "quote" mechanism here....unsuccessfully I'm afraid. 
Yes, I do mean that kind. 

One of the big points about Icynene and other wet applied expanding foams is the ability of the closed cell type to act as a perfect vapor barrier.

I agree that the inspectors have really suggested creating yet another problem with their cure.  I have other sources, and really feel confident there will be a solution other than them making us take the roof off.  I think the icynene spray-in expanding foam type that sticks to the tin and avoids having an air space to condense might be the answer. 
Did I make that clear?  I'm practicing for the thick-headed-inspectors.
Oh, I have to sound drippy-southern-sweet and non-aggressive with a slight submissiveness with a tinge of flirty "oh thank goodness you sAved little ol' me" thrown in for good measure....
:)
Christina
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: MountainDon on January 02, 2008, 03:30:55 PM
Calm, cool and flirty will get me every time.  :-[

And for help on those 'quotes' go here
http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=3786.0
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: forestchilde on January 02, 2008, 03:56:26 PM
Thanks Jimmy!! I'm definitely checking back here....I think we are pretty serious about this. Not sure if we will do the pay as we go method, might take too long if we do that, but we will see. We will start getting down to business planning when I return from abroad in February. I'm still amazed at the hard work and talent on this forum!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 02, 2008, 09:53:08 PM
Christina said

Quote
Oh, I have to sound drippy-southern-sweet and non-aggressive with a slight submissiveness with a tinge of flirty "oh thank goodness you sAved little ol' me" thrown in for good measure....
:)
Christina

You're not going to waste that on inspectors are you --- well -- OK... as long as you get your way.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: shanekid on May 13, 2008, 08:49:39 AM
Hey Jimmy,

I think I live about an hour from you, near Lindale. To go to Home Depot, I'll have to head into Tyler as well.

Is there any chance I could come see your place? We are about to start to build using the Universal Plans too, and I'd love to be able to see how big it feels inside and how you did some things.

I totally understand if you don't want any strangers coming to visit, but I thought it couldn't hurt to ask.

-Shane Kuester
shane [at] ywamtyler [dot] org
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: peteh2833 on July 19, 2008, 07:43:24 AM
Jimmy, how did you insulate your sub floor?? Also, did you use skirting around the house to keep the rodents out or did you seal the joists up from underneath? Thanks Pete
PS The place looks great!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 7/19/08
Post by: Jimmy C. on July 19, 2008, 06:55:42 PM
Wow, Its been a long time since I've been here. 

peteh2833,
Please note* I will probally get the record for the longest completion time on an owner built home.

Just today I had of 30 pcs. of sheetrock delivered from Home Depot to do some of the upstairs.

My wife is getting tired of the Owens Corning R-19 wall paper!

In answer to your question, I have not insulated the sub floor.

 I don't really see the need for it at this time. I used 1-1/8" T&G plywood as the sub floor.

It's a little cold in the winter to the bare feet but not bad.

Today (7/19/08) it was 95 degrees outside and 68 inside my house.

I use three window units to cool the place down and my highest electric bill as been 130 dollars.

As far as skirting  I only have plywood up at this time. I've never had any problems with rodents.

I did have a nasty outbreak of scorpions in the house about this time last year.

The feed store sold me this stuff called Demon dp.

Killed the scorpions and possibly one of my wifes cats. :(
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 7/19/08
Post by: Jimmy C. on July 19, 2008, 07:28:44 PM
The latest of the kitchen

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/Pictures033.jpg)(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/Pictures029.jpg)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/Pictures030.jpg)



Building the shutters for the bathroom
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/video2003.jpg)(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/video2006.jpg)




(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/Pictures031.jpg)

Bathroom floor made from 1x4 pine. These are cutoffs from the crating department at work!
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/Pictures032.jpg)


Bathroom towel cabinet. 1x4 cedar
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/GetAttachment.jpg)(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/GetAttachment2.jpg)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn kangiser on July 19, 2008, 10:07:04 PM
Thanks for the update, Jimmy.  I was afraid you finished and forgot us. d*

That's great that you are finding usable materials to salvage and make great use of.  Good job.

I reserve the right to the longest completion time as I don't figure I'll ever finish, but you can be second. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: peteh2833 on July 20, 2008, 04:06:57 AM
Thanks for the info. I'm using 3/4 subfloor with some type of wood on top of that. Maybe I won't need to insulate it. It is in North Central PA so it does get cold though. Pete
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Sassy on July 20, 2008, 10:49:13 AM
Thanks for posting new pix!  Really looks great - bet you are enjoying it  :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: penn on August 16, 2008, 11:29:32 AM
Hi there!

Beautiful home! We're from Texas too, and I'm sure we could learn a lot from your experience.

We haven't bought the plans yet, but I noticed that your second floor plans look different than the 3 bedroom upstairs plans that are on the website.  Does the 2 bedroom upstairs plans come with the total floorplan package? I like your layout a lot.

Thanks!

Lauren and Robert  (near Dallas)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 16, 2008, 08:43:59 PM
Jimmy extended his house a bit, Lauren, but the interior walls are non-bearing in most cases and can be modified to suit your needs.

Jimmy drops in every so often, but not as often as he did when he was in the earlier stages.   We always enjoy his comments.
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 04/13/09
Post by: Jimmy C. on April 13, 2009, 06:52:31 PM
Just stopping by to say hi, and show a few pics of me my wife and the finished bedroom... Well, It still needs carpet..  Jimmy C.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/bedroom029s.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/bedroom035.jpg)
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Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: rickeyleee on April 18, 2009, 06:54:03 PM
Curious about your heating unit?  Any duct work and how is the upstairs heated? 
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn kangiser on April 18, 2009, 09:19:26 PM
Thanks for the update, Jimmy.  The place is really looking great.  I'll bet you and family are enjoying your own self built home. 

Sorry I didn't catch this sooner -- I have been working almost full time now -- it's getting in the way of my forum time.  Great to hear from you though. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: MelanieM on September 09, 2009, 06:41:24 PM
Your house is wonderful.  [cool] YOu must be so proud of what you've accomplished.  Now that you've lived in the home for a while, can you tell me what you like about the house and what changes, if any, you would like to make.

Thanks.
Melanie
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy C. on September 15, 2009, 01:02:10 PM
Things I would change??? Probably putting plywood underneath the metal roof. I used to get condensation on the inside when I used propane to heat the house. Now I use a central elecrtic heater bought online from Alpine air I dont have that problem..
http://www.alpinehomeair.com/

this is the one I got..with Free delivery  http://www.alpinehomeair.com/viewproduct.cfm?productID=453057859
I added the heating element   http://www.alpinehomeair.com/viewproduct.cfm?productID=453055047
I still use 3 window units for cooling and an Electric water heater. My bill is never much more than 100 dollars per month. I keep it 69 degrees inside year round. Pretty good for a 198 degree day in Texas with 80% humidity..
Having 6 inch insulated walls and hardieboard siding is like living inside styrofoam beer cooler..
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn kangiser on September 15, 2009, 08:19:23 PM
Well, drink a cold Shiner for me, Jimmy. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy C. on November 29, 2009, 07:58:21 PM
I finally got the walls finished in the front bedroom upstairs.
 I got laid off a few months back and had a few months notice so I pretty much stopped the building process at that point.
I am so glad I built this house.. NO PAYMENTS!
I have several friends that got laid off then lost their homes...
My nickname they gave me at work was "MR. SIMPLIFY"
Thanks Guys!
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/110609012.jpg)(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/110609011.jpg)

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Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 29, 2009, 08:11:53 PM
Nice to hear from you, Jimmy and it is very apparent that you made a great move in building your own house.  At least you still have your own roof over your head.

I especially enjoyed being able to watch you go from start to "usable to shelter the family" when things get thin.  Finish will come in it's due time.

Great job and hoping things pick up for you too. :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Annalea on February 09, 2010, 03:03:30 PM
So how goes the project?  I've loved the photos, and as we're getting ready to start building in the spring (i.e. whenever they take the load limits off of the dirt roads up here), I love seeing what others have done.

Thanks so much for putting so much info up about what you've done so far, and best of luck on the rest of it!
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy C. on February 15, 2010, 07:31:21 PM
Wild Texas snowfall..
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Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 15, 2010, 07:37:41 PM
Looks like a nice warm shelter in a cold place, Jimmy.  
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: wvmedic on March 08, 2010, 02:14:48 AM
Hello Jimmy, this is my first post I'm trying to decide on the 1 1/2 story or the 2 story. I will start in about a year, but I have a question in the drawings it only shows showers did you put in a tub? The reason I'm asking is my wife absolutely has to have a tub, she says she needs to soak he achy bones and won't live without one. Heck I haven't taken a bath in a few years, maybe that is why no one wants to go fishing with me.... Nah I always take showers, and as we get older a shower is easier to use with the add in of a chair.

So I'm looking at an option to include a bath tub into our house, I have been surfing here and it looks like it will take me a few months to get thru the owner builder posts.

Thanks Jeff
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: MegR on September 29, 2010, 04:39:59 AM
Hello  :D

I am a "newbie" ...hehe....and I must say I am so impressed with all of these beautiful homes you guys built yourselves! WOW!

I joined up on this forum today for an obvious reason, my husband and I are seriously trying to figure out and plan what our next step is in life. We just moved into a new home in a new town less then one year ago-due to a job change. We love this town and this home, but we are in a bit over our heads with the mortgage payment, high utilities , etc etc. We have two small boys and we just don't want to blow our money away every month on the house and living in it! It is our biggest home together yet, a little over 2000 sq ft. We thought we "needed" this extra space with the boys growing and what not. We are a pretty simple family, we do not have many "things" to fill this house...and we realize we actually do not "need" the extra space as much as we thought..and the cost to live here is just not worth it to us! So, we have been talking about our options. Downsizing a bit. My husband is amazing with finances and a great saver. We would like to be able to pay cash for our next house and not have a mortgage if we can! We know of some land for cheap that we are looking into right now. We may go ahead and purchase the land now..and then plan this project over the next 2 or 3 years and save up a little for it. I wish we were as amazing as all of you are and had the time and the skill to build it ourselves! I am not sure about that part..but...we are going to look around and are hoping to maybe find some nice Amish fella's (we are in lancaster county pa :) ) that would like to help us with this project. My husband is good in wood working..so he can probably make our cabinets and do some of it...but other parts he just doesn't feel he would have the time or skill. We have NO clue what the cost of this would look like in the end..but we are aiming for around 50-80,000 MOST. If we could spend less..that would be amazing.

The thought of not having a mortgage payment and cutting down on our utilities and living even MORE simply then we do now is so inviting! Even though we have some years before this would happen I have started looking at our home options and plans. I LOVE the Victoria Cottage and have enjoyed looking at the photo's from those who are working on theirs. BEAUTIFUL! To live in this home would be a dream come true :) I am wondering if we have a basement (husband would like a garage if possible and affordable) if that would help with space and storage for a family of 4. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the upstairs loft rooms and the options there..and also the extra side room...that you can add a loft there as well. I am already dreaming about making that room our office (we homeschool) and making the loft above our little bedroom or sleeping quarters.  We have such a big bedroom here and while it is beautiful..it feels like wasted space to me! What I also love about that type of home is that as we "age" or if something unfortunate happens, we can turn the "office/study" room into our bedroom and be on one level. That is very inviting!

Having your price list is helpful! It helps me to see how much and what we can do on our own..and possibly what I can expect to have help with it. Which I know is going to up the price quite a bit.

Sorry for rambling....this is so new to us and while I am so excited about the possibilities...I am nervous and curious and wondering and unsure all at once!! This forum is very helpful :)

Until the next adventure...

Meghan from PA :)
Title: Re: Cason Two-Story 20x40 Texas update 10/10/07
Post by: Jimmy C. on May 18, 2011, 06:29:24 PM
Hey guys... Its been a long time! I have a few shots to share..

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_8810.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_8808.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/casonjimmy/100_8811.jpg)