Dont know if this is the right place to post this but here goes. I joined this site after the 200 sq ft cabin contest was over but I designed one anyway and want to share it. I tried to use Punch (very frustrating) - will have to download 3D - or learn how to use Paint like Mark (is he related to Frank Lloyd Wright?) So I have a combo of Punch and some handdrawn plans. Hope you enjoy.
My intention for this design is for a weekend and vacation cabin so the kitchen and bath are very basic. They are back to back and share the plumbing wall. the refrig is under the counter - the stove is a cooktop propane - maybe RV appliances would work well here. Sleeping is up the ladder to the 2 separate loft areas. Maybe the ladder could fold out of the way to save space.
Jim
Wish I knew how to attach more than one pic at a time :-/
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I couldn't get the roof to extend over the dining bumpout.
Very clever ideas, I like it!
If you want to do multiple pictures - in the message composing box -top row of buttons above the smileys -third button is a picture - image in a frame icon - save your file in photobucket then use the button above and put the address in between or just copy the "[IMG]" tag Photobucket provides. -add as many images as you like to your post then. There is more information in the Forum News section of the board.
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Thanks Glen. I will try that. I am a little dense about posting pics :-/
I never used photobucket - actually the pictures I attached are straight from my PC - should I not be doing that? I will look into using photobucket.
BTW I just saw your post for the 2006 "hooters" calendar - too funny. Its nice that you all have a sense of humor ......
Jim
Photobucket will save all the pics you want then you don't have to attach them one at a time. It will resize also- hit edit on photobucket - also files and saves for you - so you can re-find it if necessary. Other than that attaching them as a file is ok - just harder and slower.
After you start a free account at photobucket it will look on your computer for the file- hit the browse button to do that - when you find it hit submit - Photobucket will save it - give you several tags - we use the IMG tag or you can use the above mentioned button then use the top tag -url -on photobucket and put it between the img brackets.
Sorry about that Hooters post, Jim. I know this is a PG rated forum but I couldn't resist- they were just too cute. ;D
Quote.........My intention for this design is for a weekend and vacation cabin so the kitchen and bath are very basic. They are back to back and share the plumbing wall. the refrig is under the counter - the stove is a cooktop propane - maybe RV appliances would work well here. Sleeping is up the ladder to the 2 separate loft areas. Maybe the ladder could fold out of the way to save space.
Cool little house/cabin.
I'm kicking a very similar kind of idea around myself. Mine's a bit bigger though at 14x18. Seems like your lofts are pretty small. Would they be big enough to actually be used? By my count they are about 6'x7'. Seem pretty small.
Hi TJM,
The lofts are very small but they are intended only for sleeping - with some kind of padding or mattress right on the floor - just climb up and go to sleep - its really like having 2 beds in the cabin except they are elevated 8 feet! Dont know if I would actually build this cabin - right now I am leaning more towards John's 14x24 - for a little bit more effort and money it seems a lot more liveable.
Am interested in seeing your plans for your 14x18.
Jim
Interesting....the idea of just using the lofts like elivated beds ahad escaped me..... Seems more practical now.
I'm still hammering out my ideas and stuff for the sleeping loft and how to get up to it. I'll post the pics here if you don't mind. In a day or so when I've decided which method I like best, maybe sooner. I have so many different ideas for things. It boggles my own mind. :D
Here's my little 14'x18' cabin
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Are you full 2 story tjm- I was wondering about headroom in the upstairs john - if I am viewing it right.
QuoteAre you full 2 story tjm- I was wondering about headroom in the upstairs john - if I am viewing it right.
No not full 2 story, but the upper 1/2 bath would have a small kickout for head room. Wouldn't wanna have to climb down the ladder half asleep to go pee in the night.
I was planning to do a side view to show the roof line.
Sounds good -
In playing with the little house plans on my little garage I noticed headroom was short, but I don't have kneewalls- just a nice attic/loft area.
It probably wouldn't meet code anywhere that has codes but it's fun to design just the same.
This kinda shows my kickout. I guess it's more of a dormer.
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Looks like it should work fine to me.
Nice plan tjm - its amazing how much you fit in a small cabin - did you draw the elevation with Paint?
I too have too many ideas bouncing around in my head - I must have designed 100's of cabins and many variations of each one - it makes it hard to commit to one. :o
Maybe we should all be like Glen and just build and design as we go along - he seems to be pretty successful at that. I was just looking at his pics of his carport/garage - great progress in a short time.
It has advantages and disadvantages --some things go fast then there is the time I spend daydreaming and scratching my head figuring out how to do things (the architect and engineers time used here- I use that as an excuse for not accomplishing much sometimes) or what else would look cool- and doing it with available materials. Rafters and loft joists going on today between other things - just gave the neighbors relatives from Alabama the tour - a constant open house. :)
It's nice to be working the Little House Plans into the project--saves me some of the head scratching because John's already done it. :)
jstig:
I really like your layout for such a small cabin. 200 sq.' makes it tough. But this is pretty cushie camping.
Some dry storage could be put under the cabin.
On the lofts: I think you'd get a lot better head room by extending them the full width of the cabin. One in the back, (maybe a queen sized matress) and one in the front, (maybe a twin). My truck camper has a queen going over the cab. This is really comfy with lots of width. The head clearence is around three feet. Usable but a real pain. Hard to make bed, getting in and out, rolling around, sitting up, etc.. The Ridge peak would be real nice. Especily with a window.
Like the main floor a lot. Would also be a good layout for the 14x24.
keyhole
Keyhole, I know what you mean... we have a 5th wheel horse trailer with RV in front, back converted into a shop (yeh, I know you horse lovers think that is sacriligious-but the only thing we could find that was heavy-duty enough for Glenn's stuff) There is a queen sized bed that's over the bed of the truck & it's a bear to change - crawling around, hitting my head on the ceiling... :-/
I know its not the best use of the loft space but I like the open feeling of having the staggered lofts - both from the lofts and the main floor - besides I dont want to make it too comfy - I might get too many guests! ;D
Your idea for storage under the cabin is a good one Keyhole - since it will be built on a slope there will be space under it - I wonder what the best way to do it is, tho. Also might be a place for the pressurized water tank (or whatever its called) for the well - the whole idea of a well and running water has me wondering how to protect the inlet pipe from the well from freezing since this will be built on posts. Maybe I should dig a shallow well and handpump the water but it would be nice to have running water and a toilet (indoors!!)
Jim
I've wondered a lot about the same deal. We have a place thats 100 miles away and is in northern WY. Currently there is a single wide with all these problems. Completly winterizing stinks because it's then unusable.
When we build a cabin, I'm leaning heavily towards a full size unfinished basement. It solves the water, storage, and a lot of other problems. You can knock your self out with a simple yet extremly flexible water system. Keep in mind eggres for caveman room.
However, more time and $$$.
Jonesy made reference to cinder block with exterior insulation. Rigid foam or whatever it is. I've been flip flopping a lot on this but would guess it's what I really need and will definetly like the most.
BTW; so will the bank or anyone else if it goes on the market.
keyhole
I think that is the only answer for those of you in the frozen great white north. I couldn't imagine living where the ground freezes. :-/
Heh, I couldn't imagine living where it doesn't. ;)
Whatever happened to Batgirl? :-*
She's still in Vinyl --------------Keyhole --- you are much too greedy ---- but since you asked nicely I talked her into visiting here.
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Bite Me! Ouch :-/
Batgirl sure has a way of showing up in the oddest places but then she is a SUPER HERO ::)
Glen, here is what you are missing by living where the ground doesn't freeze. I took these photos today around my condo here in Columbia, Maryland.
Jim
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Notice how the snow plow piled up the snow behind my car.... :(
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Dang I miss the snow. :'( I think spring is here already.
QuoteNice plan tjm - its amazing how much you fit in a small cabin - did you draw the elevation with Paint?
Yeah, I drew both the floor plans and the elevation with paint. I have a lot of free time at work so I usepaint on my work PC to draw ideas. I can't load "outside" software on it or I'd load up my good program and use it. I haven't been able to use it much cause the microsoft pc I have in marginal for it. Slow to run the program. Oh well.
QuoteBatgirl sure has a way of showing up in the oddest places but then she is a SUPER HERO ::)
Glen, here is what you are missing by living where the ground doesn't freeze. I took these photos today around my condo here in Columbia, Maryland.
Jim
I really love that picture of Batgirl -- she really looks ready for action. :)
Now -- where was I -- lost my train of thought there for a second---- Oh yeah - Jim was stuck in the snow----
The last year I was in Oregon, my feet were so frozen working repairing a log loader, that I had to turn the oxy-acetelyene torch onto my boots just so I could feel my toes. I'd hold the flame ther untill smoke was coming off of my boots -- I can almost smell the burning mink oil now. MMMmmm. I moved to Cakifornia the next year.
Since then I have come to realize that the snow is only a 50 mile drive away nearly all year long - so if I want to I can go see it - then turn around and go home. :) We only get a few days a year of snow here - that will do--
It is pretty though--- then again -- so is Batgirl. ;D
Glen:
Batgirl sure seems to show up a lot when your online. ?????
Do you or Sassy wear glasses? ;)
Only occasionally. :-/
Jim -- how do you drive like that? I'd hate to even think of trying to remove that snow. I think I'd just turn around and go back to bed. It's only fun when you don't have to do anything with it.
That's when the V-8 powered snow blower is king! Too bad mine is only 5 HP :-/ Oh well, it was free and saved my back yesterday. :)
QuoteSince then I have come to realize that the snow is only a 50 mile drive away nearly all year long - so if I want to I can go see it - then turn around and go home.
Glen, maybe you have the best situation - take a short drive, enjoy the snow, and then come home to pleasant weather!
Jim
QuoteThat's when the V-8 powered snow blower is king! Too bad mine is only 5 HP :-/ Oh well, it was free and saved my back yesterday. :)
I saw the Cape got hammered. Kinda funny -- out here in the hills we only got 2" of stuff so fluffy it was like soap flakes. I actually enjoyed shoveling for once :-)
Its been a weird winter -- normally my yard looks like the pictures above for a good 2-3 months of the year but we had green grass showing before the storm this weekend.