Last year we were able to get the first of several structures built at our mtn. property. That project was a bit of a beach head and intended for the kids and grandkids to have a place to camp until we eventually get a cabin built. This year my wife and I are going to build a camp shed for ourselves up the hill.
Last year's project: http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=10085.0 (http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=10085.0)
The other project was a 10x12 with sleeping loft. My wife's trick knee says no way to a loft ladder so we are going with a little bigger footprint to accommodate a bed, chair and dry kitchen. There will be a 8x10 deck out front with pergola for shade and a shower attached to one side.
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I'm headed up this weekend to haul up the beams, floor joists, plywood for the floor and take inventory of what is already up there. In a week I will take a week off work and hopefully get the the walls up, rafters in place and some sheathing over the rafters. As always I am overly optimistic and it takes more time than I hope but that is the plan.
Here is the view from the shed. A future cabin will start at the shower stall and go left.
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seems like this would be a perfect opportunity to use a murphy bed. It would give lots of room during the day and you could still have your queen size bed. Just saying.
Quote from: rdzone on July 29, 2011, 04:04:20 PM
seems like this would be a perfect opportunity to use a murphy bed.
Yeah it might. We have a couple of ideas.
- use the queen as a lounging couch
- put in a futon couch/bed
- put in a murphy bed
For now, I have a queen mattress. I can put it on a scrap plywood frame. We will see how cramped the shed feels. We hope to be outside on the deck most of the time. I do think that once we build the cabin and the shed becomes more of a shed I will put in more of a murphy type setup so I have more room in the shed for projects and can fold the murphy down when guests come up to visit.
Looking forward to following your progress!
Just got back from a 6-day trip to the mtn. I was able to get three days building in on the Observatory shed. Two weeks ago I made a one day trip to our place and dropped off the materials for the piers, beams, floor joists and plywood floor. A week ago I made another one day trip up and dropped off the materials for the front deck and walls. I thought I could get all that done. Silly me. The weather was hot and I just needed to take a couple of days and recharge. This is my first vacation this year.
Day 1:
I spent the whole day trying to find the best, i.e., deepest spots to sink 6 piers. I dug at least a dozen holes in the rocky ground. Frost heave won't be a problem, getting the pier deep enough to have some lateral stability is the issue. Fortunately the pier/beam foundation doesn't require that the beams are exactly parallel.
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Day 2:
On the last shed we built this way the 4x6 beams were a nominal 3 1/2" wide. These beams were 3 3/4" and 4". My Simpson brackets are 3 1/2". Ok, where is my chisel? Well I didn't forget my hammer but the chisel was 100mi. away, time to improvise. I love my cordless circular saw. It only took a few minutes and slots for all six brackets were milled, a few minutes more and the beams were bolted and nailed to the piers.
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I always buy a few extra boards and this time I bought exactly the correct number extra. One of the 14' and two of the 10' joists went crooked on me in the 10 days they were lying in the sun. I had just enough decent lumber to finish the floor joist.
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I had enough daylight left to get all of the 2" foam insulation in place but I ran out of water and energy. The temperature was only in the mid-80s but the sun at 6000' felt like torch. I quit for the day a few pieces short.
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Day 3:
The first task today was to finish putting the sheet foam in place. I used some expanding window/door foam in a can to seal any gaps where the sheet foam didn't butt tight to the joist.
At last I could install the T/G plywood floor. I used Liquid Nails to glue the plywood down and put a nail every foot. The darn plywood had curled since I hauled it up the mtn. and I wanted to make sure it was flat and in contact with the glue. I need to talk to my lumber supplier.
We are going to try a plywood floor with just polyurethane to seal it. I stained it with Minwax 'Cinnamon' colored water based stain. I used a broom handle mounted pad so I wouldn't kill my back with a brush. I didn't pretreat the the plywood before the stain so it came out a bit blotchy as pine usually does. It also didn't help that my initial application method wasn't exactly even. I learned that the most even coverage was to essentially dry brush the stain on. If the applicator pad was too wet the stain puddled a bit before I could get it spread and it left a darker spot.
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The next planned work trip will be 4-5 days over Labor Day weekend. If the weather forecast looks wet I'll try to get up before then and get some poly on the plywood floor. I was disappointed that I didn't have time to get it applied before we left.
The plan for that trip will be to get the walls up. If I have some extra time I'll start on the 8x10 deck. All the materials are up there waiting for me.
Yesterday I was working within an hour of camp so I ran up the mtn. to put a coat of poly on the plywood floor. On the way in I noticed ATV tracks on the goat trail to our place on the upper part of the property. In the three years we have been going in this is the first time I have seen tracks go all the way in.
Got to camp and notice that the time lapse camera is missing. The lids to all the 5-gal buckets that I store stuff in are loose. The only other thing I can find missing is the screwdriver that I use to open the can of poly.
I guess it is time to get a locked gate and fence in place.
Seems to more and more thieves running around. While majority of people are at work, they spend their time ??????
Appears they could glass the area before getting too close to see you were around. Not alot of trees to hide a couple of trail cameras but it might make a good investment, if they found 1 they might not look for the other's??
Sorry to hear it. I guess the big employment plan that is coming out in September will help~~~
MikeOnBike - I sure hate to hear or read stuff like this. One can only hope when they go to hang the stolen camera. That the ladder slips, and they fall on the screw driver that they also ripped off. >:(
Sorry to hear about that :(
I went up Sat. for the three day weekend. Just me this trip. Both of my kids had to work this weekend.
Day 1:
I walked the property and retagged the steel spikes we used to mark the property boundary. If the weather allows this fall I need to add some more fence and another locked gate. It looks like nothing else is missing so hopefully our theft was a one time problem. First priority is getting the shed closed in. Not too many weekends left.
Day 2:
I am so slow. Only two walls up today. I thought I would get a lot more done but it was another hot weekend. I didn't drink enough so by the end of the day I was cramping.
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Day 3:
Another hot day. I drank more but still not enough. Two more walls up. Ready for rafters and sheathing next trip.
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View out the front window.
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The fencing is really jumping to the top of the to-do list. When I was leaving camp Mon. night I noticed that the BLM cows had knocked my pile of wood fence posts apart and had scattered them everywhere. They were even some floating in the pond. After the end of a long weekend I had to re-stack the pile.
I made it up to camp last weekend for 3 days, minus travel and supply shopping time. Boy, that can eat up a day. The goal this trip was to get the sheathing, rafters, roof plywood on and tarpaper the place. I was doing pretty well until a stiff afternoon breeze came up on the last day. There was no way I could handle long strips of tarpaper on the roof by myself.
The first day I got into camp about 4:00p and started sheathing the shack. I was able to get most of the big pieces up before it started getting dark.
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Day two my daughter and her husband and my granddaughter made it up to help me with the rafters. My method of building the fly rafters results in a very heavy assembly that would probably cause me bodily harm if I tried to get them in place myself. Jade saved the day and he and I were able to get all the rafters in place, toe-nailed and hurricane clipped, in spite of an afternoon rain delay.
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They had to be back to work on Mon. so on day three I was on my own again. I got almost all the wall sheathing completed and put all but a small strip of the roof plywood in place. The late afternoon gusty breeze drove me off the roof and I was done for the weekend.
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Eight days of work so far from start to this point. I'm pleased with the progress but impatient to have more done before the weather starts changing.
It looks like I'm going to be able to make it up this coming weekend. Next on the list is to tarpaper the place and then install the door and three windows.
Forgive my ignorance but what kind of roof is this? Googling told me it was a mono-pitch or "shed" roof. Any other terms for it? I want to do one and am trying to figure out how they are framed correctly. Thanks! Love your build so far.. if you have any close-ups of the roof framing please post up!
Welcome Poopers w*
I know Mike is sometimes busy, so in the meantime, the style is sometimes referred to as a 'lean-to' design
Cheers
Gary O'
Thanks a bunch. I like the simplicity of the style and think it would be a good choice for a first time builder as myself. Dont see too many downfalls to the lean-to style other than all the water being concentrated to one side of the house when it rains
Great progress!
Hey Mike
Really great progress on your 2nd build.
I know yer fightin' the clock on this one, but it looks like you're ahead.
I know the tarpaper tango.
I didn't need a breeze to play twister with the 14' pcs I'd cut for our cabin roof, and the 58° pitch didn't help much.
So, after getting the paper anaconda spiral off myself, I read somewhere that shorter, more manageable strips were OK, just more overlapping.......I'm sure the pros on this site have tricks to their trade, but that was my experience.
And yes, Poopers (I love typing that word), you'll only need one barrel/cistern....or dry well.....
Simplicity is the word for shed/lean-to styles.
A good weekends work!
How long are you planning to leave the tar paper on the roof before covering it with the finished roof?
I ask because I had a couple small pieces on my roof and after only a few weeks of exposure to the weather they were getting pretty ratty and coming loose.
I covered the main roof with a synthetic underlayment that's rated for 6 months exposure. The stuff is lightweight, comes in 5' rolls, and will not tear. If you're going to leave it over the winter I'd look into something similar. Price wasn't bad, somewhere between $100-$200/square.
Alan
Poopers, I don't have any closeups of the framing but I'll post a couple of drawings and comments later this week. It's not too hard, just a lot of angle cuts and those are easy if you make a simple marking jig for the roof pitch.
Gary, I'm a little ahead but I won't be back up there for two weeks and then another two weeks after that. I went with the shed roof because I really didn't like crawling around on the last build with the 45deg pitch. This roof is only 14deg.
OJ, thanks, feels slow but I need to remind myself it's only been four 3-day weekends and those include travel and material gathering.
Alan, the tarpaper is only for two weeks. I'll be back up the end of the month to put the metal roof on. I think I got the edges nailed down pretty well and trimmed so they won't catch the breeze. The 10-day forecast looks pretty forgiving.
I added some more small sheathing pieces on the sides you can't see in the photo but the bulk of the work this weekend was the roof. I finished the small strip of decking at the top. The previous weekend we set the rafters and we set the end or fly rafters first. I made the mistake of not running a plumb line between the two ends to help align the reset of the rafters. As a result I had some trimming to do on the high side and some shimming to do on the low side.
The next job was to get the 65lb, 9.25"x12' long Harditrim boards up on the eaves. These things are 1" thick so all of the nail holes had to be pre-drilled. I could either hold them up over my head or nail them, but not both. The desired distance between the bottom of the rafter and the bottom of the trim board is 1.5". This made it pretty easy to make some brackets with two offset pieces of scrap 2x4 that I screwed to the bottom of the rafter. I then lifted the trim board up on the roof, lined it up, marked, drilled and started the nails and then I eased them over the edge onto the brackets. At that point I just had to hold it in place and set all of the nails.
The last task was to cover the roof deck with 30lb tarpaper. The breeze wasn't too bad so I put it on in full width 17' pieces.
The next trip will be in two weeks. The plan is to get the metal roof installed.
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I was able to make another trip to the mtn. for about a day and a half. With rain and snow forecast for the coming week I really wanted to get the windows and door installed.
When arrived at the lower camp where I sleep, I went in the shed to get some supplies and found myself standing in a shed with 200-300 wasps all over the walls, ceiling and windows. At first I didn't notice the couple of hundred on the peaked ceiling so I grabbed a can of bug spray and started hosing down the wasps on the windows. As I looked up I realized that I didn't have enough spray to kill them all. I figured that they had been coming in to get away from the cold nights and couldn't find their way out. I decided that the only thing I could do would be to leave the door open for the day and hope that they would fly out. If they didn't I might not have a place to sleep that night. When I came back down from building at the upper camp I found one wasp left inside. With a little coaxing he flew out. I'm sure I will have that problem every weekend until I can get the opening under the eaves sealed up over the next few trips. I just hope they will cooperate as well next time.
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The next planned trip is in a couple of weeks. With the cooler weather coming I think we will put up the siding before the roof. I want to get paint on the siding in case fall comes early and it starts getting too cold to paint. I think the tarpaper on the roof will be good for another 3-4 weeks. The metal roof should only take about a day to install.
Ah, progress....nature has a way of helping with priorities.
Can't wait to hear about how the metal roofing goes, Mike.
We're headin' to the cabin soon too. May just be burning slash, however, as snow is all that's in the forecast for Chemult.
Check that..fresh fcst (new dart board).....just rain...new homemade door goes on....note to self: MAKE DOOR!
Keep a fire
She looks great, Mike! And wow, what a view.. I'll be the wind howls on the open plains. Must be nice to bed down to that.
Sorry to hear about thieves and wasps, but I suppose it happens everywhere. I had similar worries so I mounted a couple deer cams on the perimeter of my place where they wouldn't be noticed. I was excited when two weeks later I saw that I had two photos, hoping they were deer, and if there were trespassers, I'd at least have their mugs in view. Funny thing was it was me. Once putting the cam up. Once, taking it down. Not a bad idea as a low budget security system. If your stuff turns up gone, and you get 'em in cam, more than likely a trip to the local precinct will result in, "aha, them again" from the desk Sarge. :D
I'm looking forward to more pics!
Doc
Mike don't want to rain or snow on your parade. We ran off to Salt Lake City yesterday. (Had to turn in some paperwork to railroad retirement that I sure did not want the post office to loose.) We had not had a road trip at all lately. Did that and we came back through Windover, Wells and Elko. Turned and come home trough Mountain City, Grasmere, Bruneau, Murphy and home. Snow over there on top down through Riddle and Grasmere down to where it brakes off the mountain. Temp was showing 33 and a very strong snow storm. Rained from there steady down to Bruneau!
Yeah, we have a Snotel site near our place. I've been watching it all week. Freezing overnight and 1/2" of rain since yesterday morning.
I won't be back up there until the 14/15th so hopefully it will warm and dry by then. Guess I got the windows, door and tarpaper on just in time.
I made it back up on the 16th for a couple of days. This trip was all about siding.
My daughter, son-in-law and granddaughter come up to help. Jade and I got started and got as far as three sheets of siding and the soffit on the back of the shed when it started to rain, lots of rain. We spent the next 4 hrs. in the shed snacking and visiting. The rain finally started to let up early evening and they headed back to town. With a 1/2" of rain in 3-4 hrs. the ground was too muddy to work on so I called it a day and headed to the lower place for some dinner, more snacking really, and early bed.
Next morning the weather began to clear. It froze overnight and the ground was steaming as the sun came out and burned off the fog. I was able to get the last of the tarpaper up, finish the nailing from the previous days work and get three more sheets of siding up. It didn't feel like much but it's a step closer to completion.
Headed back up on the 21st to put on the metal roof and get as much siding completed as possible. We will also start painting.
Finally the end is in sight, for this season anyway. All of the siding/soffit is up except for the 3 1/2" trim. Next weekend I'll finish the trim and caulking on the first day and paint on the second. That's the plan. :)
I think the deck will have to wait until next spring. I'm running out of weather and I need to help my daughter put in some firewood for the winter.
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Even though the picture doesn't show it the roof is done. I had to take a picture before it got too dark. I finished the last of the metal in twilight.
You did it, MOB!
Good show
Very nice! I've always liked the shed roof design and am planning on using it for a 12'x12' shed. Notice you angled the top plates on the front and back walls. Some folks do it this way, and some cut them flat and bird mouth the rafters. Can you (or anyone else) enlighten me on the pros & cons of the two methods? Seems like this one would be easier to frame, other than the angle cutting. Does it require any special care in terms of fastening the rafters, assuming using something like a 3-1/2 or 4:12 pitch roof? Looks like your 14 degrees works out to an even 3:12 according to the online calculator I found. Do you have any concerns for snow loading with that pitch? Also, it looks like your fly rafters don't sit against the roof sheathing. Is that an optical illusion, or are they down at the level of your top plates? I know you'd mentioned doing something different with them in the thread. Would love to learn more, so anyone who can respond would have my gratitude.
Quote from: MikeOnBike on October 06, 2011, 10:29:23 PM
Yeah, we have a Snotel site near our place. I've been watching it all week. Freezing overnight and 1/2" of rain since yesterday morning.
I won't be back up there until the 14/15th so hopefully it will warm and dry by then. Guess I got the windows, door and tarpaper on just in time.
Mud Flat Snotel? I have made that drive Mud Flat to Jordan Valley. I really think that is a great place over in that area! [cool]
waggin,
I went with the angled top plates because it seemed easier at the time. I couldn't find anything on advantages on the different methods. I made a little wood jig that was set to 14deg. and just made sure I kept track of whether my measurement was the high or low side of the angle. I toe-nailed the rafters with a 10p/3" nail on each side where it contacted the top plate and I also used hurricane clips.
The roof is 2.5/10 or 3/12 pitch. That seems to be the minimum for a metal roof. The back wall is 6.5ft. and the front is 9'. With the 2x6 floor that let me use 4x10 sheeting on the front wall with out having to splice the siding and out reach my ladder.
We have snow monitoring site about 4 miles from our place. The records going back to 1982 show a peak snow water content of 12". That works out to ~63lb/sqft load on the roof. A span calculator for the 10'3" span advises 2x8 rafters on 16" centers which is what I used. That should take me up to 75lbs/sqft with #2 grade 2x8s. Yeah I'm worried about the roof. The weight with a full load of snow is 14,000lbs! 4,000lbs of that is on the overhangs. I hope the fly rafters are up to it.
The fly rafters are a bit different. The roof sheathing is nailed into the top of them so it must be an optical illusion. They have 2x4s that run from the bottom side of the outer fly rafter under the rafter at the wall and continue under the next inner rafter. That supports from the bottom and the sheathing covers on the top. My thought is that with a box like that it would be stronger than the rafter ladder that I see many just nail to the outer rafter. I do have some concern about the snow load on that cantilevered part of the roof.
If you have any other questions just ask. I'll try to explain with an answer or diagram.
Rick,
We are about 4mi east of the Mud Flat SnoTel site that is near the BLM camp. I'm a little higher up at 6000'. If you know where the top of Freezeout Ridge is, that is my driveway.
My wife and I made a 2-day trip to the mtn. this weekend. Our goal was to have the shed ready to endure winter. On the list for the first day was finish the siding around the door, put up the corner trim and caulk everything that is in place.
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On Sun. after it warmed up Pamm started slinging paint. I focused on getting the windows and doors trimmed and adding nails to the sheeting where I had missed or skipped due to time or weather in the weeks before.
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We didn't get all of the painting done but it will do. I was able to get caulking on the tops of the windows/door but as the photos show we were running out of daylight.
We left a few bare spots on the siding. I'll be back up a couple of times over the next 2-3 weeks to help my daughter get firewood. I'll snag the granddaughter to come help me 'finish' the painting and close up both sheds. I still need to put my material piles neatly under both sheds and put away the chairs, grill, shower and fencing supplies.
Other than that I think we are done for the year. Snow is forecast for next weekend. I don't think we have any more buildings planned for at least a year. Next year we will finish fencing/gates, probably put in a well, get some solar power in place and finish the interior of both sheds.
Excellent choice of colors... the place looks great!!! I look forward to updates.
BB
Glidden 'Dewy Iris'
Pamm is the decorator and I told her to have fun with it. She is.
My son Jason and I went up on Fri. to close the sheds and put everything away for the winter. We got my son-in-law started cutting firewood on a neighbors property and headed over to our place to put things away. Jason hadn't been up to mtn. for a year. He works weekends and has school during the week so the second shed project was all new for him.
While I fussed with the last couple of items at the upper camp he wandered off to take a few pictures to show his girlfriend who also hasn't been able to get to the mtn. this year.
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It doesn't look like I will get to finish painting with my granddaughter this year. Oh well, the bare spots will be there next spring.
After standing around enjoying a hot cup of coffee, watching the light snow fall and listening to the quiet we headed down to the lower camp. Everything gets tucked in the shed for the winter. I had already drained the hot water heater on the outdoor shower so we just removed the heater, pump and shower head from the wood frame and tossed them in the shed with the BBQ grill and fencing supplies.
All closed up for the winter. Just a five month wait for the snow to melt. Lots of time to think about all the interior work to do on both sheds, and building the deck, and the fencing, and drilling a well, and starting a cabin...
Five months----- :( [waiting]
This is what has me hung up the most about moving up to the ranch! We have pulled our irrigation pump and drained everything. I plan on going up tomorrow and grabbing the fifthwheel.
Has been cold - real cold in the mountains already.
Very pretty photo of the dusting of snow. Thanks for the response on the rafters and top plates. Your place has great lines and proportions and has a beautiful view; I'll look forward to hearing your progress once the weather allows next year!
We are finally working on the shed. Most of our effort this spring has been on fencing the property. Given last year's theft problems we are very glad to finally have a locked gate.
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Pamm and I went up last Sat. for a 4 day stay. We were able to get the shed wired, half insulated and the deck and stairs in place. The previous week, on a fencing trip, I hauled up a bed so we are no longer sleeping on the air mattress. Wow, what an upgrade that was.
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Hi Mike. I noticed you have a metal roof that is similar to one I am building now. I've found the correct side flashing, but what did you use for the shed top and bottom ends? Was it just L flashing over the top of the metal roof sheet?
hpinson,
I got the metal roof materials from a local roofing supplier.
The side flashing has a little curl that laps over the ridge on the flat panels. The front flashing is almost identical but does not have the curl since it needs to lay flat across and perpendicular to the ridges. I used solid ribbed foam strips on the front flashing since I have vented soffits front and back. The back/bottom flashing is just an L shaped piece that is about 2" on a side. It really doesn't do anything and is just cosmetic.
The roof is 5/8" plywood over 2"x8", 16" OC ceiling joists, covered with 30lb. tar paper. Our record year was 12" of snow water so the roof is a little sturdier than you might expect for desert country. The overhangs are 16" with a vented soffit in the front/top and back/bottom. The side soffits are not vented.
Nice rock pillars! How long did it take to build them?
On our property we have a lot of rock in spots (no topsoil) and will have to do that too.
I think the rock jacks take about an hour or two.
We set 4 t-posts in about a 3 ft diameter circle. They are cross wired in the direction of the fence run with barb-less wire. We wrap them with 9-10 ft of horse no-climb wire.
Filling them with rock can go pretty quickly if it is close but can take quite awhile if you have to walk very far for it.
We will probably have about 30 of them when we are finished.
Looks like to me it is sort of hard getting four tee post sunk in some of your spots...... ;)
I have been thinking of making the loop and coming out over at Jodan Valley one of these days. My wife has never made that trip.
WOW that is one heck of a view across there. I bet there are not many lights out there in the distance at night.
By the way I love that photo of the light snow you posted back in November. [cool]
Hope to see you around one of these days. Still have the scaffold.
You're right, the soil is a little thin. Sometimes the posts are just something to tie the wire to.
Let me know if you are going to make the loop. If I'm going to be up there I'll have to give you the tour.
You can see Jarbidge, the Independence range, the Santa Rosa range, Juniper Mtn. and South Mtn. from there. It is very dark. I can't wait to get my telescope up there.
My son took that photo when we were closing up the sheds last fall. We had a nice light snowfall and it was just dead still quiet.
I think we will probably connect up this year.
Quote from: MikeOnBike on July 06, 2012, 09:17:38 PM
You can see Jarbidge, the Independence range, the Santa Rosa range, Juniper Mtn. and South Mtn. from there. It is very dark. I can't wait to get my telescope up there.
My son took that photo when we were closing up the sheds last fall. We had a nice light snowfall and it was just dead still quiet.
I think we will probably connect up this year.
I have been over to Jarbidge, that is some neat country over there. Lots of Indian lore and mining history off that way.
Boise any more is big enough that its lights just floods and washes out the night skies so bad up our way. Some nights it is okay. I hear it is not as bad during the winter time. I guess the Boise inversion traps some of the light down. It has been a long time since I had a good telescope. Last one we had up there was one my daughter had. Pretty low budget outfit but a higher priced low end scope. However it was a lot of fun. I do get some stuff from Orion once in a while and on a e-mail list with them. If we get moved up there I will most likely make the plunge into a good scope.
I have something up my sleeve for up my way but I am not saying anything. Bad jewjew man for me. ;) Seems ever time I say I'm going to do something -- something happens! Loose lips sink ships and plans
Your cabin is ADORABLE!! I just started building the 14x24 at my land in NY and when I'm finshed with that one I'm going to be building the 10x14 for my daughter right next to it. I am putting a shed roof on both of them so they will match.
My brother and I made it up to my place last weekend. We focused on the deck and managed to get bracing on the posts, the pergola in place and the shade cloth installed.
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We also spent a lot of time playing lumberjack. The big tree to the left of the shed is coming out and we have a lot more work to do to establish a defensible space. We had some large fires burning within about 12 mi. of us over the last couple of weeks and fencing will have to take a back seat to fire control for awhile. >:(
It is dryer now than it usually is at the end of along hot summer. Since the fence is not complete we have the BLM cattle on the property now. There's not much for them to eat so hopefully they will pull them early this year.
That is neat looking I like it....... [cool]
The junipers, they really blow up when they get on fire. You might try and keep the cows in there and maybe they will eat all the fuel. A few cow pies are better than the maybe alternative.... :( I asked our lessor this year to keep their cows in our place as long as they could and 'grub it off' really good. They have been grazing our place so light the last couple years that we have a had huge fuel load building up.
The angle of your roof is steeper than the flat roof in the plans. Is that a 15 degree angle? Is your cabin 8' in front to 6' in back?
Ooops, never mind my last post! I see you talked about it in a previous post. I was almost right about the specs anyway!!
In early Oct. we made the last trip to the mtn. and finished the trim and paint on both sheds. Finally, I hope, the wasps and moths will be sealed out. This shed hasn't been near as bad as the other. We were gone overseas until late Nov. and there has been either too much mud or snow since then to make another trip. Next year with the shed fully insulated we hope to visit into late Nov.
I have a lot of winter projects for the shed to keep me busy. Shelves, solar panel rack, hot tub, water storage, shower materials, outhouse and much more. Happy holidays to everyone!
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We finally made it up to our place on 4/26 for the weekend. Every thing was in good shape. Our neighbor was overrun with mice this winter but we had no sign. The blue birds were very active and entertaining all weekend.
I managed to get the rest of the insulation in place and a couple of sheets of paneling up. We won't be back up for a few more weeks but since the snowpack was so poor and the spring is running so low I'm going to haul up a 500gal water tank so we have a more reliable water supply. That and finishing the paneling will be the focus of the next trip.
I love lithium batteries. After 7 months, cold weather and ~750 pictures the trail cam battery indicator shows full charge.
We did have a couple of interesting visitors on tax day.
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Momma cat making her rounds.
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And waiting on...
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junior.
[cool] Wow!! That was a surprise!
Very nice shed.
You made it all seem so easy.
Thanks for sharing.
Is the structure completed inside and the water tank installed?
Nice project - well done. It looks like your furry neighbor is keeping an eye on the place for you.
Quote from: John Raabe on May 08, 2013, 01:10:22 PM
Nice project - well done. It looks like your furry neighbor is keeping an eye on the place for you.
Well we had some theft problems awhile back so I had to hire some security.
Quote from: redjhoo on May 08, 2013, 01:01:08 PM
Very nice shed.
You made it all seem so easy.
Thanks for sharing.
Is the structure completed inside and the water tank installed?
I'm still working on the inside on both sheds and will be most of this year. I need to finish paneling, install dry kitchens and refinish the floors.
The tank is on the property but not installed. I'm trying to decide if I need to shade if from the sun to keep the temp down or should just paint it white.
About a month ago we got the water tank set on something a little better than bare rock. We have close to 150 gallons in the tank now and keep adding with every trip. We are taking a bit of a break from the cabin right now because the temps have been in the 90s and we are off grid. Next trip we hope to get the shower finished and plumbed to the tank.
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Fourth of July weather update. On the afternoon of the 4th we watched tankers drop 3 loads on a range fire south of us. After awhile they and the spotter plan just left even though the fire was still burning pretty well. About 30 min. later the clouds darkened and we could see rain begin to descend to the ground over the fire. After an hour it looked like the storm was headed our way. About another hour after that we began to hear a jet like roar that was getting louder. We couldn't figure out what is was. Pretty soon it came over the ridge just south of the cabin. Hail and lots of it. The picture isn't even the worst of it. We had another wave after I took this picture and then it rained hard for an hour. I figure we conservatively got over an inch of moisture in two hours. A lot of the hail was marble sized.
From the looks of the damage the storm was about 4 miles wide and we were at ground zero. If filled our dry pond and overflowed the output for at least 24 hrs. Water rain high down the creek and almost washed out the dead fall we had placed to prevent erosion. Water ran across the oxbows and left fresh mud and debris all up and down the creek. The fork of the creek that only runs two weeks a year during spring thaw and drains this basin ran 20-30 feet wide and we will have to rebuild that crossing. It was an awesome display of the power of nature.
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