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Offline Chuck Adze

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Re: Indigenous Housing
« Reply #125 on: October 08, 2010, 07:42:21 AM »
Its, probably just built on flat rock / piers.
Some of the other cabins I have seen (in the middle of the woods), were just dry stacked stones / crawl spaces.

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« Reply #126 on: October 08, 2010, 10:11:33 AM »
I also love the look of the rustic / rusted metal roofing (painted finish of course), or Reinke roof shakes.

A couple of my projects using rusted metal - likely will clear coat it in the house.

http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=1166.msg28284#msg28284

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Re: Indigenous Housing
« Reply #127 on: October 09, 2010, 11:27:06 AM »
Awesome and  interesting.
Rammed earth, pier slab.
Tools too! (jealous of the sawmill).

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Re: Re: Indigenous Housing
« Reply #128 on: October 09, 2010, 03:04:10 PM »
Gotta have the toys, Chuck.  :)
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Re: Indigenous Housing
« Reply #129 on: October 13, 2010, 11:05:32 AM »
Check out this one.....I really liked it, my wife says it looks like a camp / fort the kids used to build.
At any rate, I decided not to buy it (I would have to use some of my savings)  8)

http://www.trilogybuilds.com/calecho/

That looks odd but I like it. It is very cartoonish and fort like. I thought it was 3d rendered at first.
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« Reply #130 on: October 15, 2010, 08:13:24 PM »
Looking at some of the cast iron fittings on old heavy timber work and the loads involved, those were some sharp folks. With scraps of steel and some creativity you can make nice fittings, if allowed. I've made large joist hangers for heavy timber out of angle iron welded into pockets that put Simpson to shame, out of scrap.

John, Look at the settled cabin again with another possibility in mind. The front porch roof is supported on vertical poles, that don't shrink lengthwise. The cabin was built from horizontal poles that do shrink in thickness, that wall height lowered over time. Follow the roofline to the window posts, see the slight rise? Maybe not all of it but I've seen the effect with no foundation movement, a chimney can do the same thing to the roof.

This is an interesting link I saw on another forum;
http://www.ncptt.nps.gov/bousillage/

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Re: Indigenous Housing
« Reply #131 on: October 18, 2010, 02:32:03 AM »
I am sure most of you have checked out Tredgolds scantlings before....he goes into some details on steel / iron and timber fasteners.

http://chestofbooks.com/home-improvement/woodworking/Carpentry-Principles/index.html

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« Reply #132 on: October 18, 2010, 03:52:52 AM »
Looking at some of the cast iron fittings on old heavy timber work and the loads involved, those were some sharp folks. With scraps of steel and some creativity you can make nice fittings, if allowed. I've made large joist hangers for heavy timber out of angle iron welded into pockets that put Simpson to shame, out of scrap.

John, Look at the settled cabin again with another possibility in mind. The front porch roof is supported on vertical poles, that don't shrink lengthwise. The cabin was built from horizontal poles that do shrink in thickness, that wall height lowered over time. Follow the roofline to the window posts, see the slight rise? Maybe not all of it but I've seen the effect with no foundation movement, a chimney can do the same thing to the roof.

This is an interesting link I saw on another forum;
http://www.ncptt.nps.gov/bousillage/

That is a very interesting link.
Sort of like the old wattle and dawb.

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Re: Indigenous Housing
« Reply #133 on: December 18, 2010, 06:15:44 PM »
Haven't added to this thread for a bit so looks like now is a good time.

As most of you know, we recently had Dr. Myo Aung Kyaw from Myanmar stay with us for 3 days as well as some other great visitors.  Myo loves to take pictures and while I am not sure if he considers himself to be a professional, I sure see professional quality there.  He has generously given me permission to use some of his photos from Myanmar, so I thought I would pick out some of the indigenous housing and building related pics he left me to add to this thread.  

The following photos are from an album he has titled "Farmer's Life in Myanmar."  Myanmar was previously known as Burma.




another shot... from what I have seen in Myo's other pix, the building with the external supports is a granary... I would assume for rice storage.




and a cow shelter.




Looking through the pix, there are only a couple more that could fit into this category.  There are lots of other interesting pix though.  I could start another thread on it if there is interest in seeing more of Myo's pix.
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Re: Indigenous Housing
« Reply #134 on: January 24, 2011, 05:34:29 PM »
Kandovan, Iran (northern Iran)



Website:  Troglodytic Village

Lots of pictures.
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« Reply #135 on: January 25, 2011, 06:23:37 PM »
Now that is way cool... :)
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Re: Re: Indigenous Housing
« Reply #136 on: January 25, 2011, 06:51:29 PM »
Found a good video on it.

Kandovan Village in Iran, Home Carved into Rocks, Tourism.

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Re: Indigenous Housing
« Reply #137 on: January 25, 2011, 07:41:57 PM »
We have formations like that here in NM.

We call them tent rocks.

But nobody lives in them.

Cool place to hike through though.
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« Reply #138 on: January 25, 2011, 08:22:12 PM »
All of the sudden I am getting the urge to dig into my mountain........ [waiting]
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Re: Re: Indigenous Housing
« Reply #139 on: January 25, 2011, 08:27:52 PM »
So that is volcanic rock? I imagine it's got a decent r-value, if so. Seems it would be softer and easier to dig out than regular old rock, too. We need a couple of those.. :)

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« Reply #140 on: January 25, 2011, 08:57:14 PM »
Naturally cemented volcanic ash I guess.  It said 10 months for four guys to hand dig a room in the motel I think.

Here is a blog that says it is pretty soft.

http://www.coolpicturegallery.net/2010/01/irans-human-termite-colony.html

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