14 x 24 Olympic Peninsula

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considerations

Ok, I get it...the visible pink color didn't come from the walls.   :D

glenn kangiser

I mooned Sassy, thinking I was being smart, and in like ..about 2 minutes the old California Overnight deliver man arrived with a parcel.  :-[

I don't think he saw me.

RE -the color --- pink must have been the face cheeks because Sassy said the other cheeks were pasty white.  [crz]
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Sassy

Quote from: glenn kangiser on September 28, 2008, 01:38:03 PM
I mooned Sassy, thinking I was being smart, and in like ..about 2 minutes the old California Overnight deliver man arrived with a parcel.  :-[

I don't think he saw me.

RE -the color --- pink must have been the face cheeks because Sassy said the other cheeks were pasty white.  [crz]

Glenn's just trying to save face stating it was 2 minutes - he mooned me & then I turned around & there was the California Overnight man...  I think he saw Glenn but was too polite, ahem, shocked   [scared]:o , to say anything  rofl
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 :-[ :-[    :(        dontlook    [panic]         gottogo      [ouch]
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PEG688

Quote from: Sassy on September 28, 2008, 01:43:22 PM

Glenn's just trying to save face stating it was 2 minutes - he mooned me & then I turned around & there was the California Overnight man...  I think he saw Glenn but was too polite, ahem, shocked   [scared]:o , to say anything  rofl



Humm sort of like what working around Fred is like  :o  d* The poor Overnite guy , he's MTL suffering some sort of PTSD  rofl
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glenn kangiser

He has  since had to retire.....due to old age.... I'm sure.....d*
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PEG688

Quote from: glenn kangiser on September 28, 2008, 02:05:11 PM


He has  since had to retire.....due to old age.... I'm sure.....d*



Shock or trauma I'd say  rofl
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Redoverfarm

Glenn if he retired I am sure that he has probably seen worse in his deliveries.  You probably didn't make that much of an impression on him.  Now the opposite sex would have priobably sent him out with a disability retirement. ;D

glenn kangiser

PEG..... heh

Yeah ....poor old fella.....  I don't have too much doubt the he was past being safe on the road, but he really was a very nice old guy...actually had us over for dinner one time at his house..

Come to think of it ....it was after the.....incident.....so I guess I didn't permanently damage him.  :)
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PEG688

When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .

glenn kangiser

...you never know what you're gonna get... [crz]
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MountainDon

Some days all you get is    Crape Diem    and maybe on the wrong end...    :-\

Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

considerations

I have this great big coil of wire..It is covered in "white" plastic and has "Anaconda W Dutrax Type NM 10/2 with Ground 600 volts" printed on it.  There are 3 insulated wires inside.

Can I use it wiring the house? 


phalynx

NM is romex.  10/2 is designed to carry 30 amps of 110V electrical.  I am not sure what you would use it for.  Not too many requirements for 30 amp 110.  It could be used for 220V but you would lose your dedicated ground... 

John_C

Well, if you have it and it's free I say use it.  You wouldn't IMO be violating any codes. Just keep in mind that if you use 20A receptacles you should use 20A breakers.

The 10 ga is more expensive than 12 ga so you might find some takers for a swap.  You should be able to swap it for a larger roll or 12 ga. 

Off the top of my head 10 ga would be acceptable for a dryer and for some wall mount overs.  It's too light for most water heaters and ranges.

MountainDon

#341
Is it copper? If so it may be worth more to you if you sell it for the copper value. Or maybe barter for something you can use.

10 gauge copper could be used for 15 and 20 amp lines but not advisable because it is so stiff and difficult to work with.

15 amp circuits generally use 14 gauge copper; 20 amp circuits 12 gauge.

The first number is the wire gauge (14, 12, 10), the second is the number of conductors (2 or 3 generally). There is usually a white and a black that are used to actually transmit the power, plus a bare, or in some cables a green insulated wire, that is the ground. White is the neutral and black the so called hot.

Using it for 220 VAC would not meet the electrical code.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

glenn kangiser

As don said - it would really be hard to get into the boxes possibly breaking recepticals as you try to force it in.
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MountainDon

I'm using some 10 gauge on some DC lines. For them I'm transitioning to 12 gauge in the boxes using flexible pigtails. 10 gauge is a bear to work with. 
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

glenn kangiser

When I helped my uncle remodel the old homestead we used flexible pig tails.  Much easier with heavy or lots of wire.  Twist the group together with wire nuts is todays accepted method. 

As I recall, we also soldered per his spec.  No wires coming loose there.  I am still a believer in a good mechanical plus a soldered connection but I never do it any more -- just twist the nuts.
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MountainDon

I more often than not use a large box even if it's not necessary because it gives more working room. You'll never be red tagged for too large a box but if you go over the limit with too much in the box for its size you will. If you're being inspected.

Are you having help or farming out the electrical, considerations?
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

considerations

"Are you having help or farming out the electrical"

Good question.  As I cram insulation under the floor, I'm thinking about it.  I'm a waste not, want not sort of person.  I thought that wire was pretty skookum for the house, but being a real expert  rofl  with electric fences, I learned that bigger is better when it comes to wire. 

The good news about this forum is you can ask a question like I did and get answers without cutting a check or watching someone roll their eyes. 

Almost a whole box of the stuff was in my Dad's barn when I cleaned it out.  I brought it along just in case. I've used a little, for silly stuff, like hooking the charger to the fence, but the cabin application is a little more critical... So, basically, it's bulky overkill for the regular wiring but not ok for high loads like electric dryers and ranges?  Neither of which I'm planning on, but it might be good to wire for them in case it ever becomes a possibility.

And when you are talking about a "large box", do you mean the box behind the wall that a receptacle cover goes over?

flexible pig tails...I thought they all were.   ;D



glenn kangiser

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Yup on the boxes - some are bigger - even extensions available.

I try to stay away from pig tails so can't help you there. ::)
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Redoverfarm

Not really that much bigger only deeper.

glenn kangiser

On commercial boxes you can get a single cover for a double box I seem to recall, but that would not usually be req'd for a house if planned right.
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