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Title: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 23, 2011, 10:47:23 AM
Well I am finally starting my build thread with pictures of what we have completed to date.  I have always wanted to land for personal hunting and after this very cold winter we had last year, I decided to go on the hunt.   We ended up finding a nice out of the way place that wasnt a very long drive.  When we looked around at properties we saw a place with a nice 1300sqft cabin on it and loved it. Land was way too hilly for mu huinting tastes.   Well that set things in motion to look at cabin kits and log cabins etc....

I had always wanted a log cabin, but wasnt dead set on it.  After researching I couldnt believe the cost of the complete kits when comparing  a 1100sqft to a 600sqft kit. We wanted the larger, but that just showed me that there is alot of markup on these.   Thus began the search for cabin plans or other kits.  Then i stumbled onto countryplans.com - wow. nice selection of plans and lots of comminuty support.     I did alot of research on the plans and costs, not being a carpenter I wasnt sure about taking on the project ourselves.   I got my first quote from a small crew and they ball parked getting it framed and dried in at $30k for labor only.  I think that was really high and probably very very high ball park as I had all framing materials prices around $12k not including the trusses.

Thus began several months of researching and reading on the build process.  read the "house framing" book john suggest many times over. Good book and a must read for anyone wanting to do this themselves!   I started getting quotes for the foundation, site clearing and septic and drive etc.  So then i had my initial idea of those costs and decided to do the project ourselves and hire out on things I didnt want to do.

Here are pics of the original old logging path that would later become the driveway.


(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/DSC_2295.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/DSC_2297.jpg)





Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 23, 2011, 10:55:11 AM
I also wanted to mention that I fell in love with Dave and Kim's 1.5 story and modeled our cabin simular to theirs, but had the plans adjusted for 4ft wider and went out to 46ft long.


Path cleared for drive up the hill.  Drive way is about 650 ft long

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0052.jpg)

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Cabin site cleared for the most part

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0046.jpg)


Crew working on the foundation and footer location
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0063.jpg)

I went around and around trying to decide on post and pier vs crawlspace or a full basesment. I liked the idea of
a fullbasement, but would have had a garage door added for four wheeler storaged etc.  But i opted out of that,
didnt like the idea of critters getting in or under the garage door and into the cabin.  I ended up going with the
crawl to better hide piping and some covered storage and to keep the floor warmer.

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 23, 2011, 10:56:29 AM
Footers and crawl wall going in.  Was supposed to be a 40in crawl 5 corse. Ended up being 7 because the contractor didnt get the fall of the hill correct.  But in the end i didnt mind it, easier for me to move around as i am 6' 2".

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0065.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0075.jpg)


Completed foundation with piers for the girder. I had decided that i would have the girder even on the 20 wide as to make for a stronger floor. I am a big guy and didnt want any bounce...

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0089.jpg)

waste pipe exit

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0092.jpg)

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 23, 2011, 11:07:32 AM
We had planned to get the site clearing and driveway, foundation done in may. But we had such a wet spring nothing got started until the last week of may.  They didnt finish until mid week before 4th of july.

foundation sealed
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0102.jpg)

consruction drive in....
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0115.jpg)


I had always planned for my father to help our with this build and to help with alot of the carpenter items inside of the cabin.  But in Feb dad found out that he had stage 4 melanoma cancer.   Things got really bad around the beginging of June when we was admitted to the hospital.    He got to see the pictures up to this point, as he lost hit fight on June 15th.  At that point I wasnt even sure I wanted to even try finishing the cabin framing this year.  I figured get the floor and subfloor done and leave it until next spring.

So on July 1st we started with the sill plates and then onto the girder

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0118.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0122.jpg)

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Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: RIjake on October 23, 2011, 11:17:30 AM
Sorry to hear about your dad.

Looks like a fun project.  Good luck with it.

How big a piece of land do you have?
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 23, 2011, 11:19:34 AM
I will say it was a very hot and humid summer.  The humidity was the killer..  Mostly this build was myself and my wife. Then occasionally i had a friend or wifes father help out.  Had a friend help out with the floor joists.  I had the idea of hanging up that tarp to keep the sun off of us.  It worked great for that, but it needed to be a little higher once we started on the subfloor as it made it muich hotter under the tarp.  Got the advantec down!  Yeah.     I strong suggest that you use advantec in your build as this stuff rocks. It is more expensive but it can be left out in the weather for a year and still not warp or other known issues.  Its still solid as ever.

framed the walls
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0145.jpg)

Those walls are 46ft long.  the friend who helped me with the floor joists was saying oh we just need a few more people to help out with raising this. I said no way once we put the sheeting on its going to be super heavy.
I also couldnt rely on who was going to be there or not. So i found the transporter wall jacks ordered a pair of those. It allows you to raise walls with sheething with only two people.
These things rock and work well!  Anyone want to by mine? might cost too much for shipping.


(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0147.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0151.jpg)


Got the two outside walls done, me and my wife and her father worked on them and got them up. It was a little scary getting putting these up for the first time, but we got through it.
There was no way these walls would go up with the weight we had unless we had like 12 people helping.  

One note here - the simplest things sometimes take along time. I have constantly been amazed at how i think i can get something done quickly and then it take 2x-3x longer.
We figured we would sheath both walls and raise then in one day. Took us one wall per day.  The biggest problem was that it was july hot and humid as could be. So in the morning
we could work very well for about 2 hours. Then once the sun started hitting the work area we had to start taken more and more breaks which really slowed us down.  So be prepared
if working in the heat for this.

We had only been working on Fridays and SAturdays, once we got the two long walls up. I decided to head out and frame up one of the end
walls with the wife. We actually got one up in 4 hours one nite.  the other end ended up taking 8-12 hours over 3 nights. Think we were getting
too tired. :)

Oh and a tip here... When we framed the 46ft walls we moved them a little up and in to square them. Well that was ok. but when it came time to move them
back out to the lines for raising we had a little problem.  We could move the wall up and down fairly easy just pushing or pulling while walking down the
46ft side. But tring to push the entire wall from one end a few inches wasnt happening.  Ended up nailing 2 x 2x12's together and setting on the
bumper of my truck and tapping the gass peddal in reverse. It worked thank god, else i dont know what we would have done.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 23, 2011, 11:37:51 AM
pics of the main load bearing wall that our 6x12 will sit on, and some pics of the interior wall framing.  I did enjoy working on
the interior wall framing. the cabin really starts taking shape when you get this done.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0163.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0165.jpg)

This is our 2 - 6x12's and the 6x6 post now in place.  Me and my wife did this in one day.  I was planing to rent a heavy equipment lift to help with the 6x12's. but then realized i could use the transporter wall jacks. Yeah more use from those!  I could easily drage on of the 14ft 6x12's myself but no way we could lieft them ourselves.  We got the first one up and onto the top plate and nailed in about 3 hours.  We were a little nervous about the beam falling off while we tried to get the mounting plate for the wall jacks off the beam but we managed.  The 2nd beam took much longer due to us not having a wall to hold use tiedowns on the wall jacks for stability.  We manged and finally got the 6x6 in place.  I had used up all of my tiedowns to stabalize the wall jacks that i didnt have anything to hold the 6x12 in place while we got the 6x6 under it.  I got resourceful and used wrapped my extension cords around the post and wall framing it worked like a charm.


(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0170.jpg)

We had only been working on Fridays and SAturdays, once we got the two long walls up. I decided to head out and frame up one of the end
walls with the wife. We actually got one up in 4 hours one nite.  the other end ended up taking 8-12 hours over 3 nights. Think we were getting
too tired. :)

Oh and a tip here... When we framed the 46ft walls we moved them a little up and in to square them. Well that was ok. but when it came time to move them
back out to the lines for raising we had a little problem.  We could move the wall up and down fairly easy just pushing or pulling while walking down the
46ft side. But tring to push the entire wall from one end a few inches wasnt happening.  Ended up nailing 2 x 2x12's together and setting on the
bumper of my truck and tapping the gass peddal in reverse. It worked thank god, else i dont know what we would have done.


Loft floor joists are up! I really didnt want to have to use floor joist hanging off the 6x12(i could have done something smaller but wanted the nice
effect look).  I really wanted to use ijoists, but they would have had to be 14in tall and then there became all kinds of issues with connecting them to
the out sidewalls and ledger etc.  I probably could have gotten away with it, but i didnt want to risk there not being enough recommended ledger for the
ijoist to sit on.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0175.jpg)

simpson hangers - boy thats alot of nailing.  Anyone that hasnt done this. Get some friends the hangers took 16 nails each and my wrist and hand bothered me for two
weeks about.  At this point I always wanted a closed ceiling under the loft. But once I got to see the beams we ordered. I kinda wished we went the open ceiling route.
But I constantly go back and forth on that one.  Being a big guy i would have liked 4ft spacing between the joists. So this floor is much strong with no bounce.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0178.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0179.jpg)

Advantec on the loft floor
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0201.jpg)
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 23, 2011, 11:52:57 AM
I do want to mention two mistakes we made and point these out to others os that they dont over look them either.  When we framed the outside walls one the floow. We offset the top place 5.5 inches back from the end for the end walls top place to over lap.  Well we nailed them all the way down. Problem:  we used the same length top plates as the one below it meaning we only had 5.5in of overlap on our seams.  I couldnt live with that mistake and spen alot of time with a sledge hammer and a chisel and crowbar to rip those off and put new ones on.  BTW:  Get yourself a nice large crowbar and sledge - we used these two tools so much and they come in handy for things you hadnt thought of. We plan to hang ours up in the cabin. by far the #1 most useful tool we have.

The second mistake is when we started raising the interior walls.  We had all of the exterior walls braced from the inside, so when we needed room to build the walls we removed the braces. (oops). This wouldnt have been so bad if we had rechecked the plumb and pulled them back in then. But we didnt think about it or notice it until we finished the loft floor and i noticed the one wall wasnt straight.  I was going bonkers trying to understand WTF happened.  Then it hit me.   The harder part was that we alway had the joists nailed and loft floor on.  Luckily i hadnt cut the 2x12 joists for the loft floor for dead tight fits, so i had room to pull the wall back into plubm. Ended up using the sawza to cust the nails pull the wall back into plumb and then renail.  wast to bad and didnt take as long as i thought. The other was didnt have an issue.


Next on to trusses, we ended up getting trusses made and delivered to the property. truss company called me out of the blue at 11:30am and said
we are ready to deliver your trusses in 30 minutes.  Ahhhh ok you know its been raining the previous day right?  No problem. I drove out there and
I drove the guy up the hill in my truck and he said no problem well get them up there right next to the cabin.  I reminding him he will want to get
a good start when he got below the cabin else he would probably loose tracsion due to no gravel and rain. Well he tried 12-15 times to make that
corner and kept getting the area rutted up and muddier.  At one point i said he's gonna get stuck and i am going to have to pay for this. I even
thought we would have to take the trusses off one by one and then he could back down the hill in reverse. Finally I got him to listen to me and
we got him turned around and i said just dropp them off as far as you can get up the hill in reverse thats where it ended up.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0219.jpg)

piggy back of the truss
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BIG FYI - truss people told me 2 weeks to build and deliver. Dont beleive them. Ours took almost 5 weeks to deleiver. So plan ahead and order them
4 weeks before you need them and make them hold them incase they get done early.  I would have had a roof on 3-4 weeks earlier if i had done this.

Now the best part.  So the guy is leaving our drive and gets stuck in the ditch across from my drive. He said his air breaks popped off.
Yeah whatever

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0225.jpg)
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 23, 2011, 11:58:20 AM
BTW: I didnt have to pay for that tow either.

I dont like heights very much, but have gotten used to them and doing the various building task that area needed. But no way was i goin on the 12pitch roof. We had planned to rent a boom lift to put the trusses up but my helping hands had other plans and it was getting too close to hunting seaon and my cuttof for dry in.

So I hired some amish roofers to put up the trusses and metal the roof.  Best money spent so far.  I called around to many normal roofing comopanies but no one wanted to deal with the trusses. oh well. But its done now.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0258.jpg)

from no roof to half roof in one day - yeah
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0260.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0263.jpg)


pic of our 4x8 DF beams in the cathedral area

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0268.jpg)

loft area with trusses on
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0270.jpg)


almsot dried in and entire roof sheeted and tar papered
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0285.jpg)
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 23, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
Got the house tyvek'd - ended up purchasing the stinger staple caps.  They work very well!

As Dave did in (dave and kims 1.5 story) I also bought my windows off craigslist. Got all 14 brand new in unopned boxes for $80 each not bad.
I wish they were about 3in wider. but they will work for the cabin.  Person that sold them to be called a week later and said they had pulled an anderson
400 frech swing door and wanted $350 for it.  We saw it at homedepot earlier and wanted one but they were $1500.  So i grabbed it, it was used but in
excellent condition.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0294.jpg)
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0299.jpg)


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Metal roof almost compelte and sofits done

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(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0304.jpg)


NOTE: anyone going to installing a wood burning stove with metal roof. If you are not doing this yourself, verify if your
installers will cut through metal.  I never asked this and a week before the roof was to be put on found out. So i had to
have the roofers leave a strip off for the install guys to put a proper stope file flashing boot up there. I guess this crew
prefers a proper flah vs a cut and chaulk flashing.  But it all worked out.   



Loft stairs completed.  I got very busy and wanted to get up in the loft without climbing the ladder. Things at work heated up
so my time was limited, so i asked my nice amish crew to build it. They gave me a nice fair price. Turned out way better than i
imagined, especially if i did them

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0306.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0308.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0309.jpg)

I ended up finishing all of the interior wall framing that butted up against the loft stairs and udner it just yesterday.
Wow - i am glad thats over with.

I think i will only have some storage framing in the loft at a much later time.

Talking to the electrician today and plmuber tues. more to come.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 23, 2011, 12:19:05 PM
Quote from: RIjake on October 23, 2011, 11:17:30 AM
Sorry to hear about your dad.

Looks like a fun project.  Good luck with it.

How big a piece of land do you have?


We have 42 acres, would like more but its plently for two people to hunt on.  As you can see we decided to move forward with the build. I figured i would push through and do it for dad.   ;D

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Rob_O on October 23, 2011, 12:59:48 PM
Great work, Dad would be proud

What are you using for siding?

Sent you a message about those wall jacks
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 23, 2011, 03:18:39 PM
We are going to wait till spring for the siding.  But I am not 100% sure what we want to do yet.  I wanted to do 1x2 chink wood siding or maybe a log siding.   But I am a little concerned about maintenance etc. then i saw the one post of a cabin i think in MI. that is using certainteed  cement board cedar siding prefinished with a cedar stain which we are going to investigate.
I would really like to go the pine chink look but i keep fearing  we will regret it later on.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Sassy on October 23, 2011, 04:06:26 PM
Wow, I am impressed!   [cool]  Looks really good, enjoyed following your progress...  your wife sounds like a great help w/this build  :)  So sorry to hear about your dad, I lost mine over 3 yrs ago...   Glad you went ahead w/the build, tho, you will really enjoy it.  Beautiful land, too!  Looking forward to seeing your continued progress!
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: UK4X4 on October 23, 2011, 06:44:08 PM
Just to check you went with 12 ft ballon walls

so you ended up with roughly 3ft above the floor- what the usable width and what angle is the interior part of the trusses ?

Being 6 ft I see 5ft as a sort of workable height to the side of a room- my wife however can get away with way less

You made great progress! your father would be proud to see what you acomplished
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: nysono on October 24, 2011, 06:10:24 AM
Awesome job, looks great.  I bet your Dad is looking down and smiling at your accomplishments.  Its alot of work but the pay off is worth it in the end, we are fianlly able to start enjoying ours now and with hunting season open work has declined.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on October 24, 2011, 06:58:06 AM
Quote from: UK4X4 on October 23, 2011, 06:44:08 PM
Just to check you went with 12 ft ballon walls

so you ended up with roughly 3ft above the floor- what the usable width and what angle is the interior part of the trusses ?

Being 6 ft I see 5ft as a sort of workable height to the side of a room- my wife however can get away with way less


We went with 11' 4" balloon walls. I did that for two reason, I wanted higher ceilings and when i was going to go the ijoist route they would have been 14in tall so i wanted the extra room.  We framed the walls before we have the ijoist vs the center beam determined.
The bottom of the loft joist sits a 8' 6" so i have roughtly  20" - 22" of knee wall.


The heigh in the middle of the trusses is either 8' or 8'6" i dont remember i will have to check that and get you the angle.

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on November 13, 2011, 06:31:04 PM
Well another update, we have been busy. Well the contractors have been busy. I really wanted to be able to use my cabin for hunting gun season and have the guys come out.  So I decided to hire an electrician to wire the entire cabin. I was planning on having them only do the box and 220 stuff and all of the high ceiling items. But my time was limited.   As for the plumber we have to get inspections and are required to use a licensed plumber so i had to dish that out.  It was a big trade off, getting it done within two weeks for some extra $$$ or doing it myself and taking alot longer.

Picture of the finally finished roof with the stove pipe flashing.  Before i was there the day they put this in, i was like WTF is the big deal with cutting into the the metal roof and putting a boot with a rubber gasket on. Well this flashing was huge and I think was definately worth the wait. Looks proper also compared to the gasket version.  I think its kind of a cheat as the hole they put in the roof was huge compared to what i thought it would be.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0318.jpg)


Next on the list the well is completed - yeah - last big truck that needed access to the drive. Now we can gate the drive :)  The well driller was waiting for a few nice dry days to get his rig up here. This guy has a comverted oil drilling rig. He get most of his jobs drilled in one day compared to the the others around here. My only wish was that i could have been there to take pics.  Well was 125ft, clear and no sulfer.  14 GPM he told me that was good for the area and the height that we are at on the hill.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0321.jpg)

They came back another day already and installed the pump and water line to the water tank(diaphram) in the crawl. We ended up with a 50 or 55gal tank. We up sized the tank as we wont have grid power for some time, so he suggested a larger tank to hold more water so that the pump doesnt have to run as much.


Pic of the utility room, washer and dryer hookups and the water heater. I will need to take some pic of this coming through the roof and the loft area.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0325.jpg)


Installed the coner shower - omg what a pain in the arse this was. Plumber said take this crap back and get a fiber glass one. We bought this as the bargin outlet. I assumed everything was fiberglass.  Little did i know that the walls are some srot of plastic stuff.  Didnt seem like a big deal to me, we just needed to green board the walls now.  Plumber got the base setup and said you can put the rest of that together yourself it will take forever. I was thinking yeah right. Well the thing took me 4 hours or so to put togehter. Pain in the butt. All of the glass and doors took the longest.  I think it will work out just fine for a hunting / weekend cabin

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0328.jpg)


We also had to deal with the crawl space, oh boy.  Our contractor who did the crawl woulnt put any of the poly down due to the crawl filling with water due to the large amount of rain we got this spring. Well we finally got the floor and everything else built and finally drained all of the water out with a bulge pump.  Finally about 2 weeks ago the ground finally started to harden up a little (there is gravel already in the crawl. but it was very humid.  So I bought some 6mil poly and double layered it from each side.   The plumber left his wrok string lights down there for us. that made a huge difference and allowed us to get the job done faster.  We layed out the poly and taped it fairly quickly.  then we needed stoned on this.  Me not knowing if there was a company that could fill it did it the hard and somewhat painfull cost wise way. Wen to homedepot and bought 86 bags of pond pebbles. we hauled all of the bags in there.  It was a pain but easier than shoveling it all over the place.  We were able to cover the outside walls and then 3/4 of the crawl with stones.  I will might finish the other end later on, but i doubt we will ever be down that end often for the need.  Two weeks later, i can already tell a huge difference in the humidity and things are super dry now.


Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on November 16, 2011, 09:17:49 PM
Well the insulation was finally getting done in the cabin this week. So we decide to head out tonight to make sure they were on it. Well they had done a fantastic job.

Pics of the johns manville "spyder" insulation.  i believe its a R23 for 2x6 wall  ;D
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0334.jpg)

loft view looking down into great room
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0338.jpg)

We got spray foam insulation (CertainTeed's CertaSpray) in the ceiling, gable ends and crawl floor. This has come out better than i thought especially how think it was at the peak of the roof.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0335.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0337.jpg)

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Sassy on November 17, 2011, 04:21:13 PM
Bet that made a difference in the tempature!
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: dablack on November 19, 2011, 06:02:26 AM
Everything looks great and I can't wait to see how it turns out.  Also, make sure and tell us how the hunting is going!  I'm very interested in your build because the first thing we are going to build on the property is the garage (24 x 48) with an apartment above.

thanks
Austin
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: EaglesSJ on November 19, 2011, 10:10:51 AM
Looking very good. Those trusses look stout. You think a 12 pitch roof is steep you should try a 24 pitch roof. WOWSERS!
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: duncanshannon on November 19, 2011, 02:53:04 PM
great looking place. awesome progress.   [cool]

you must do this for a living too, eh?

i really like the red roof.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on December 06, 2011, 09:08:53 PM
Wanted to post some slight updated pics. Not too much has changed except we now have all of the elctric wiring done and lights up. Now you can see the loft and insulation pics better.

Loft looking out into the great rooms
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0343.jpg)

Looking from great room into the loft. note the nice black stove pipe
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0347.jpg)

got the wood stove installed quadrafire 3100 heat up the place nicely. We definitely need to get the ceiling fans installed and running to help
circulate the heat. Batt insulation will be for sound between the bed room and bathroom walls.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0348.jpg)

Pic showing the spider insulation in the walls. If I start a fire and heat up the place to around 70-71 for the first floor I can place a few logs in around 10pm and goto bed and there are coals usually still bruning and the temp is about 68 then.  I left for the cabin and came back and it was still 68 at 6pm that was on a 50 degree day. On a colder day 30 degrees it dropped to about 64-65 when i was back at around 6pm. love it!

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0350.jpg)


Looking to place my order for T&G pine this week. want to get the inside moving along.

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on December 18, 2011, 05:17:42 PM
Well its been a busy last few days!  We originally bought our 4x8 beams from twin creeks log home supply and decided to purchase our T&G from them also.  We are going with 1x8 for everything inside.  We ended up getting somewhere around 10,300 linear FT four huge pallet bundles. WOW

Anyone planning to do this themselves, be prepared for alot of measuring and back 'n forth :)  Also make sure you have a sliding compund miter saw (this is the bomb) and makes things go so much faster. I wish i had this when we were framing.  Also a jig saw for cutting out all of the outlets and switches. Lastly a finishing nailer - I have a cordless passlode and love it.

This is a corner shot of the great room
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0359.jpg)

Got tired of looking at the insulation so i just had to get that outside kitchen wall done :)
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0360.jpg)

This is the back wall of the great room.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0361.jpg)

Got three walls of the guest room done and also two walls in the master completed.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0362.jpg)

Got some good light with the camera on my phone and a nice pic of the knotty pine doors
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0363.jpg)

Got the week after christmas off so most likely start on the ceiling. Not looking forward to that.

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: dablack on December 18, 2011, 06:19:42 PM
looks great.  If you don't mind me asking how much was the spray in insulation.  We are going to be doing about the same thing and I'm trying to get everything figured out. 

thanks
Austin
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on December 19, 2011, 09:04:31 PM
Total cost was $6600.  $1650 was for the spider blowning for the walls and the rest $4950 was for the ceiling and floor.  We got 8.5 in in the ceiling and 5-6in  under the floor.  But i can tell you we got a few more inches than we paid for as they really filled in the floor and ceiling fairly well.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on January 09, 2012, 08:28:42 PM
Well another weekend at the cabin got a few things done.  I have my wife as a helper she is great help, but i dont let her run the miter saw so things are a little slow climbing up and down the scaffolding. Gets tirering really quick. TIP:  have someone to help that can cut while you stay up on the platform :)

Got the front wall and wall going up the loft stairs almost done
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0365.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0366.jpg)


Here is 1/3rd of one side of the ceiling
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0367.jpg)


Wanted to show anyone that was interested how i pre-trimmmed out the doors.  We did not think about ordering the door jambs to not only fit the 2x6 wall but to account for the 3/4in of T&G.  So we built out the original frame.  This actuall doesnt look all that bad and i can live with it. Eventually we will trim around the door.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0368.jpg)



There other 1/3rd of one side of the ceiling kitchen side. This side seemed to go up really quick. I am thinking the more i do this
the faster i am getting. Just need more help :)
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0369.jpg)






Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on January 24, 2012, 05:34:11 PM
Well we had a very busy weekend.  We put up more scaffolding and had my father-inlaw down to help us put up the ceiling. It tooks us two days about 11 hours with breaks and lunch to get it done each day.  The 1x8 T&G goes up fast until you have to cut around something in the ceilings.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0395.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0396.jpg)
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Sassy on January 25, 2012, 07:35:26 PM
Looking really nice!  Bet it feels great to get the the T&G up - not an easy job for the looks of it...
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: astidham on January 25, 2012, 11:20:12 PM
very nice!
after finishing the ceiling in our cabin, crawling up and down the scaffolding to no end,  my wife decided to cut some T&G wall boards for me.
after several nice, accurate cuts, I turned all the cutting over to her.
it is so much faster..     :)
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on January 29, 2012, 07:28:40 PM
Some more pics.... Ceiling and loft ends are finished and trimmed!   ;D  Just need to figure out what we plan to put on it.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0398.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0399.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0400.jpg)

When I first started putting up the loft wall ends I just kept measuring and cutting accordingly.  I even started this when i could cut one single 16ft or 14ft to fit on the wall with weach end cut off at 40 degrees.  Then I noticed a little trick that i wanted to pass along, some might already know this but hopefully it will make someones life easier.

This is for cutting the angles for a single board for the ceiling.  I had bought what i call an angle tool, I am not sure of the exact name lowes/HD carry them. mine has a red handle with a level bubble in it and then a metal rule looking thing that can slide all around and be locked in place. Basically you can place this on the top of your nailed T&G and slide it into the corner to get the correct angle of your ceiling. You might need to move the metal rule to get the angle.  Then i used that to verify the correct angle to use on my miter.  Mine ended up being 45 degrees.

So I cut one end of a 16ft T&G angle and then measured the botton to the other side and cut that angle. This gave me my first starting bord to use.
Here was my trick to make the rest of the board going up easier and faster to cut.  I took the wedge/triangle wood that u just cut off and measured it on the top from the flat end to the point. This gave me 9 1/4 so i doubled that for the other side getting 18 1/2. 

Next I cut the angled end of a new T&G board, then placed the previous on on it and got its exact length. Next from the angled end I measured the 18 1/2 and then cut that additiona 45 degree angle off.  This then gave me my template to keep reducing the next T&G board by 18 1/2.  Once i knew this the one end went up lightning fast and there was no recutting and remeasuring issues.



The place where i got our T&G didnt sell white pine trim, and i kept thinking ahh ok i can use lowes/hd trim.  Well i had recently bought a new table saw and it can also be angled up to 45 degrees.  So I decided to make my own trim for the center of our ceiling. I basically ripped 2in strip of the T&G, then set the table saw to 45 degrees and cut each side.  This would allow my trip piece to sit nicely in the wedge between the two ceilings.

I was then left with these long triangle looking rips.  I had an idea and then used them for my corner trim in the loft. here is a pic.  I think i will be using this for all of the corners now. No need for lowes trim. :)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0401.jpg)
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on January 29, 2012, 07:30:32 PM
I also wanted to thank astidham for some tips.  It helped me get the T&G up faster.  I hear you on the wife using the miter. I wouldnt let her touch it. I didnt want to even think about running to the hospital.  Once her dad showed up it ws much faster.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: rick91351 on January 29, 2012, 08:49:10 PM
Quote from: beckhamk on January 29, 2012, 07:30:32 PM
I also wanted to thank astidham for some tips.  It helped me get the T&G up faster.  I hear you on the wife using the miter. I wouldnt let her touch it. I didnt want to even think about running to the hospital.  Once her dad showed up it ws much faster.

Gee, my wife doesn't let me use her miter saw.   :o



 
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Don_P on January 29, 2012, 10:29:09 PM
Ours was an anniversary present... she asked for it  ;D
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: astidham on January 31, 2012, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: beckhamk on January 29, 2012, 07:30:32 PM
I also wanted to thank astidham for some tips.  It helped me get the T&G up faster.  I hear you on the wife using the miter. I wouldnt let her touch it. I didnt want to even think about running to the hospital.  Once her dad showed up it ws much faster.

everything looks spectacular!
glad the tips helped.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 08, 2012, 03:46:37 PM
Well its been a short while since I posted some new pics.  We have been chugging along on the inside getting more and more T&G put up.  Was a little slow until recently once we finalized the AC stuff. So now that its installed we are back on corse.

Our exavator finally got back to business and pushed all of the dirt back for the final grade! yeah been waiting since oct  (next dry day yeah right lol)  But its finally here....

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0443.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0448.jpg)


We also found a much nicer corner shower at homedepot, its 42in long vs the 38 we had.  Looks so much better and the walls are fiberglass!   Big note here:  If you ever go looking for a corner show, make sure the walls are fiber glass and that the model you are looking at on display in the one you are grabbing!   I have seen some models at the big bix stores that had FG walls, but the one we looked at didnt.  We knew originally that the first one did not have FG walls, I was under the impression we had flat FG walls to glue up. Later found out this was paper thin plastic of some sorts you had to glue up on green board.     After alot of comptemplating and now knowing we will be using much much more than we expected. We dedcided to replace it.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0468.jpg)

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 08, 2012, 03:50:25 PM
I have been wanting a place to store my toys since this last hunting season.  So I had the amish crew that put our roof on, cut up a bunch of the trees the exavator pushed up into firewood and then had them put up a 24x32 pole barn.


(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0450.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0454.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0460.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0462.jpg)


Now we are just waiting on the concrete floor. :)


Oh if you are curious as to why the windows are so high, well it seems you run into alot of nosy people in the country LOL.  So i had them put the windows up high.   The one you cant see opposite of the garage door will be for hunting, I plan to build a platform and open that window for gun/muzzleloader.  I think my wifes uncle will use it the most, as he cant walk the hills too well now a days.


I also bought two OXFORD TERRA FORCE in ground anchors - you see what they look like here:
http://lockitt.com/lockdown.htm#Terraforce  These will be placed in the concrete and later on we can chain up the toys :)  I also had to order this from the UK, no one in the US had them in stock and supposedly had a backorder. But ebay and the UK did not. :)

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 08, 2012, 03:58:24 PM
Lastly, the biggest change to our cabin is the deck. We wanted this done in Dec. but due to the final grade not being done we couldnt get it started.  Finally we could start this, so far most of the deck is finished.  We just need to get the porch put on and the metal roofing that will match the existing roof.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0469B.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0469C.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0469D.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0469.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0469E.jpg)

In case anyone watns to know the size of the deck, here it is:  The front portion of the deck which will have a metal roof covering is 8ft x 46ft.
The rear is 8ft x 24ft and the end with all of the windows is 16ft x 40ft.   

I wanted a beefier look, so all of the posts are 6x6 posts.

More pictures to come as we progress.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: RIjake on April 08, 2012, 08:41:24 PM
That looks fantastic.  Quite a deck!  Curious as to what the lumber costs for something like that, approximate?

Nice barn too! [cool]
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: alex trent on April 08, 2012, 09:16:10 PM
The deck will make the place!...from the fairly common to the grand, I think.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: mogie01 on April 09, 2012, 06:44:34 AM
Your place looks fantastic :)
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: astidham on April 09, 2012, 04:41:15 PM
how deep are your deck post and are they concreted or earth?
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 09, 2012, 05:35:40 PM
Thanks everyone, slowly but surely we will get this finished. :)

approximate wood cost was around $6k.

I went back and forth on the concreting the posts, but we ended up earthing them in, but they have a 4in x 15in circular concrete pad just like the ones they use in the pole barns under each post and then ther dirt around them,  The county we live in doesnt like concrete to be poured around the posts, they say it supposedly eats at the post (or maybe its the water eating at the posts).   Back at our house different county they require concrete around the posts... go figure.

Oh and the depth of the post holes is 36in.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: astidham on April 09, 2012, 05:44:06 PM
it looks great, my wife wants one like it now!!
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Alan Gage on April 09, 2012, 07:43:24 PM
Don't know if it's right or wrong but when I was putting in some posts I asked my building supplier whether I should put them in concrete or crushed rock. He said the problem with concrete is that the post will shrink and pull away from the concrete, allowing water to enter where it gets trapped and can rot the wood.

Alan
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: MountainDon on April 09, 2012, 08:11:03 PM
The way I see it is concrete around a post makes for a quick install, but it's hard to beat the dirt you dug out to make the hole as great backfill.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: oifmarine on April 09, 2012, 10:16:38 PM
Looks awesome.  I love your deck! :)

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 10, 2012, 06:23:02 PM
Quote from: astidham on April 09, 2012, 05:44:06 PM
it looks great, my wife wants one like it now!!

hopefully, we didnt create too much work for you!  I know how i go looking at other builds and get more ideas and can really add up! :)
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 10, 2012, 06:25:05 PM
Finally got the concrete poured for the pole barn - yeah. almost time for some toys lol.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0470A.jpg)


We got more progress on the deck and the porch roof.

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0470B.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0470C.jpg)

We should be able to get the metal crew working on putting on the metal roof for the porch now!  More pictures to come.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Danfish on April 11, 2012, 11:03:15 AM
Outstanding build!!!

Wish everyone had access to one of those "Amish crews"...real craftsman.

Those security anchors really look substantial...it is getting so around here the "tweakers" will steal anything to feed their dope habit.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 11, 2012, 12:58:34 PM
IMO a porch makes a house.  As for the toys in the barn.  In another 10 years you will be saying it's time for a yard sell. ;D
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 11, 2012, 07:17:46 PM
I wish I had found these guys earlier - might have even had them do the acutal build instead of me and my wife.  But we have really enjoyed the process for the most part.  We had them do put our trusses and metal on for the roof, the pole barn and the porch roof good guys.

I hear yeah on the toys, just need two of them so there wont be that many.  ;D
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 12, 2012, 10:22:43 AM
I forgot to mention I found the amish crew believe it or not on craigslist.  The person who drives them around posts an ad in the services section. You never know what you will find on craigslist.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 12, 2012, 10:36:58 AM
Quote from: beckhamk on April 12, 2012, 10:22:43 AM
I forgot to mention I found the amish crew believe it or not on craigslist.  The person who drives them around posts an ad in the services section. You never know what you will find on craigslist.

As a general rule they do good work.  But just like every other trade there are exceptions.  My sister employed them to trim out their recently renovated house.  OMG I could have done better with a hatchet.  They definitely were not finish carpenters.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 12, 2012, 06:25:22 PM
I agree with Redoverfarm - just make sure they are skilled at the trade you hire them for.  These guys had a portfolio of pole barns, cement work, stone and bricking, decks, siding etc.  pretty much anything along those construction lines.  I did ask about building out my knee wall for storage and I asked them about it, but they said that wasnt something they had done before and wast confortable.  So basically these guys are not the amish wood cabinets/furnature types.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: oifmarine on April 12, 2012, 09:45:29 PM
Definitely not finish carpenters!  But, look at the tools they use!
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 15, 2012, 07:00:28 PM
Well got out to the cabin to build the first knee wall only got a small amount done as my plumber let me use his bobcat to move stone up around my pole barn. So I couldnt pass up the free use, just had to pay for the gas!    So the plumber was out to add some new T's to the steel pipe for the propane lines to the grill, generator and the furnace.   Then we decided to dig a trench for our down spouts. 

BIG NOTE - i never thought about the down spouts when we had the septic and foundation put in by the same contractor -  I wish i would have thought to have them add the piping in the ground done over the hill.  Anyways we went ahead and added that and ran it down the hill between the pole barn and the septic system.  Worked out nicely - sorry no pics of that.

Pics on all of the rock i brought up to the barn and the little driveway i made. still need to smooth it out.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0473.jpg)


The amish crew came back and finished the porch roof, we love it!  Really transformed the entire cabin.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0475.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0476.jpg)



Lastly, I needed to put in a ditch to catch all of the water coming off the hit as it kept comign over the driveway. So my plumber/excavator dug a trench for me all the way down to our first culvert.  We then installed a 20' culvert pipe for the new drive going to the pole barn. I then dropped lots of #2 in the ditch for a french drain. Turned out well.    Still need to remove some dirt we have around from the ditch but it rained last night and was too wet to mess with.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0477.jpg)

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: oifmarine on April 15, 2012, 08:46:29 PM
Good idea on the trench.  Very smart to use the bigger rock in it.  Hopefully it works for you.  Your build looks great!
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Sassy on April 15, 2012, 08:54:45 PM
Love your new porch! 
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 22, 2012, 11:34:35 AM
We we got our gutters now on the cabin and pole barn so we are all set with regards to water control! :)  ended up renting a trencher to  put in another downspout drain to the road. Worked like a charm and is working as expected.

We also got our propane tank on Friday.  Boy that was a pain.  NOTE: anyone wanting one of these tanks, make sure to request a site eval before they come if you are on rough or hilly terrain.  If your on flat ground your ok.  We figured these guys would want to see the locations first and they said no.  then the tech came and he had to use his truck which has a 20ft max reach boom.  Well that compunded our first location choice and then the max length of the hose also complicated the tanks location.  In the end we put it near the drive in from of the pole barn.  The new location doesnt bother me much, does the wife. But we'll plant from shrubs or something around it.   I forgot to take a pic. That to come.


Sat and Sun i was busy building the loft stair railing wall and knee wall.  Here is a pic of the wall that the stair railing will attach to.
I took some suggetions on here to keep the wall from being wobbly, and took two 2x6 and bolted them to the floor joits below and butted them up to that and the 2x4 wall. Worked like a charm.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0483.jpg)


Here are pics of the knee wall. It comes out 4 ft.  We will have plently of storage now!  Plan on putting pine down for the bottons. Then putting up the left over T&G on the inside and outside to form doors etc.
(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0484.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0485.jpg)
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 22, 2012, 05:04:25 PM
You will not regret the storage  areas.  I have them down both sides of my attic rooms.  I moved my insulated wall back to 18" near the rafters tails which gave me almost 4' of storage along the now 5' knee wall. It is basicly wasted space anyway as it was too short to place any furniture there.  I made raised panel doors to gain access to the areas.  The one area I even made my son a play room which was his barn, complete with dutch style barn doors.  He would spend hours at a time until he got too tall or should I say too big for his farm sets.

(https://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd161/redoverfarm/scenes/country%20plans/100_4805-1.jpg)

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Believe it or not they are all stuff full now.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: oifmarine on April 22, 2012, 10:39:25 PM
Cool barn door!
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on May 20, 2012, 03:39:09 PM
Well we have been very busy with the cabin, we have finally fiinished putting up all of the siding and it looks sharp.

Here are the pics.  We had been planning to go with Certainteens cement fiber board, with the dimanon kote finish. But the lumber company and diamond coat screwed up and sent us LP smart lap siding...  So we had the choice of getting what we wanted or going with the lp.  We researched it and liked that it was rot/bug resistant and it had the same diamond kote on it. Plus it came in 16ft lengths instead of 12ft which mean less seams!   All in all it is a great product and we will never have to stain it even as the siding comes pre-finished from the factory with a 30 year no fade warranty.  Any one interested in diamon kote - here is the website: www.diamondkoteprefinishing.com  LP also produces nice 1in trim 1x4 and 1x6 which we used, in addition they had pre-build corners to you didnt need to nail two trims together and then have to worry about chauling. I'll take a pic of one of the corners next time i am out.


(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0505.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0506.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0512.jpg)

(http://www.eclipse-consulting.com/cabin_pics/IMAG0518.jpg)

Also been working on the T&G doors (look like barn doors from the inside lol). Got one side of doors completed and hung but forgot the pics.

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: oifmarine on May 20, 2012, 05:10:28 PM
Looks awesome! [cool]
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on May 27, 2012, 05:21:44 PM
I have been working on the knee wall storage in the loft of the cabin. Its coming along pretty good. I ended up needing to use some longer screws for the hinges to help keep the top hinge from leaning since i have the hinges attached to the T&G pine i placed on the inside walls. Well see how it turns up.  Here are two pics of the the doors and the one side that almost finally completed. 

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Hanging these doors was tricky, even though i had a tool to help with hinge placement etc.  I am not sure how i feel about the gaps at the tops. I might reset the doors or just put some wood behind the door to help make the gap not so noticeable .  But all in all they came out very well.


I have a 2 walls and 2 ceilings (hallway and kitchen) to T&G still.  I couldnt complete those until i had the loft railing figured out.  I looked all over for an easy solution, but nothing seemed to match or look the way i wanted it to (pre-built).   So i decided to fab up my own railing from some left over 4x6 douglas fir beams i had. I need to get a better picture from down below. But it looks really nice.  Toughest part was sawing the 4x6 into the top and bottom railings using a 10in table saw.  Its worked but was tough since i was cutting them in 12ft lengths.  I then used an electrict plainer tool to  smooth them out and to make them look new again.  Lastly I took an orbital sander to them to finish and round out the edges of the railing.  So far its looking awesome, and the wife loves it.  She wants me to redo our banister railings with the iron ones you see here now.  I do have to say that I have a good 13 hours into what you  see on the railing - includes resting time since its like 84 inside the cabin right now but i have to give it to the guys who do this all of the time. This is hard work, alteast I feel it is when your making it from scratch, maybe not so much with pre-fab. :)

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Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Redoverfarm on May 27, 2012, 06:10:21 PM
You could always "Picture frame" the doors to make it less noticable.  Using 3/4 -1" flat 1/4" stock similar to lattic mitered corners allowing 1/2" overlap onto the wall from the trim.  On the hinge side if you do not have the adequate clearence you could mount the trim flush to the door edge and just allow the overhang on the top, bottom and door side ( opposite of the hinge side).  I have even use window casing for door trim of this type.

It appears that you were trying to match the "v" grove from the door to the walls.  You could cut the trim at the specified "V" grove location with a "V groove design to disguise or camoflauge it better
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on June 23, 2012, 05:50:33 PM
Well been busy at the cabin last few weeks getting things done. lol It never ends.  I do feel like we are starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.  July 4th will make it one year since we started.

Here is the completed loft railing we made. Came out very nice
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We had a bunch of left over siding and liked how it looked on the cabin. So we decided to put that up on the under side of the porch roof.
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I also poored a 3x5 concrete pad for a generator that we are getting.  Boy that was an experience, not too bad. I rented a mixer for $$25/$30 cant remeber and that was great.  I love how the bags say 2.8L of water, but we ended up putting more than that in to get it just right. Just wish i didnt have to purchase the gallon jug of the acrylic sealer as we hardly used any of it. :)
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Well big suprise is that the kitchen is done now....  Was down at the neighbords cabin, hadnt been there until 2 weeks ago.  I looked around and i said are those hickory cabinets?  They said yes, where at lowes here in town.  When i checked lowes many months ago at my primary house an hour away, they didnt cary hickory cabinets. But at this farm town they do go figure.  So we ran down and took a gander and got the entire kitchen.  I did want to say anyone using johns plans might want to take a gander at the sizes of the cabinets. As lowes didnt carry the sizes we had in our plans and had to rework some things. But it all worked out!

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Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 23, 2012, 06:40:59 PM
What kind and size generator are you getting?
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: akemt on June 25, 2012, 01:02:25 PM
The cabinets look great!
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on June 25, 2012, 07:33:07 PM
Rover - Getting a Generac 14kw.    After much research on the off grid using a generator and battery charging etc the cost came out to about what it was going to cost me to just pay for the power.  Seemed like a no brainer.  So in the mean time i figured i would get a generator to hold us over until we are grid tied.  Once we get the power, I will either keep the generator as we are in an area that looses power alot or I will have the electrician move it to my primary home.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 26, 2012, 06:23:46 AM
Quote from: beckhamk on June 25, 2012, 07:33:07 PM
Rover - Getting a Generac 14kw.    After much research on the off grid using a generator and battery charging etc the cost came out to about what it was going to cost me to just pay for the power.  Seemed like a no brainer.  So in the mean time i figured i would get a generator to hold us over until we are grid tied.  Once we get the power, I will either keep the generator as we are in an area that looses power alot or I will have the electrician move it to my primary home.

Maybe a word to the wise on the Generac.  The company does not warranty any of it's standby generators if used in an "off grid" capacity except one.  I ran into this when I was considering mine.  They do offer the EcoGen which is 6KW that is for Off Grid application. 

http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Generac-5818-Standby-Generator/p5511.html

With their Nexus controller ( standard on most of the models either off/on grid) you will need some energy source weither it be batteries or solar to maintain it's function and the start battery.

There are several features on the 5818 that are not on the other generators which may or may not account for the additional cost.  ??? 
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on June 26, 2012, 06:13:00 PM
Rover - Thanks for the info. I was aware of the warranty situation.    I might actually end up using your idea of picture boxing the knee wall doors in the loft. we'll see. :)
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: clehner1 on July 04, 2012, 11:54:10 PM
which color of diamond kote is on the cabin with the red roof?
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on July 10, 2012, 08:47:49 PM
Its the cedar color diamonkote
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on July 13, 2012, 05:26:20 PM
Counter tops are now in

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Also started working on finishing the loft stairs area, will post pics when thats complete.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on March 23, 2013, 09:51:32 AM
WOW - I am really behind is posting pics....  Once July hit i was on a roll trying to get everything i needed done before the end of october for hunting season so i could stop working for a few months and releax.


We got the generac installed at the end of july, looks like i only got a pic of transfer switch lol.  The generator was nice and help run the AC to keep the place cool during the hot and humid summer.    At this point I was still working on things friday, saturday and a little on sunday - ran the generator for about 8 hours a day.  after 326 hours genny died.  It would try to start and then stop itself.  I wasnt please for a brand new unit that wasnt ever running 24/7.  Basically the stator rotor needed replaced and appeared to be a known issues - go figure.  It broke about two weeks prior to us getting full power to the cabin.  Generac covered it under warranty. :)    I do want to point out if you get a generator setup without any main power - make sure to pull the batter fuse when you are not there, else the battery will be dead when you come back a week later.  These unit will not recharge the battery while runnning.  They will only recharge when connected to grid power - go figure.
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Here is our trench for direct burried electric to the transformer and then to the house.
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CO-OP Power - WOW what can i say. I want to inform those of you planning a project and or just starting to look for land.  I currently live in the burbs and have AEP power which is not a co-op.  I see the cost per KW @ .06. Never knew a thing about co-ops until I wanted power at the cabin.  co-op power is expensive!  Our co-op uses the recommended rate out of country living magazine which i believe is around .13 per kw for the first 500kw and then goes down a little after that.  On of our first bills was for 400KW and cost us like $80 - that includes a $18.xx servie fee.  Unreal how expensive co-op power is.   

Our co-op originally planned to install power down our road 2 years prior.  The power had come down above and below the 317 acres that got split up that we are part of.  The original ower wanted the co-op to pay her for the right of way they said no and then the economony tanked.  Co-op basically was going to pay to have the trees cut and poles in place.  Needless to say they wouldnt do that now - all of the property owners had to pay for our own power. Basically cost me about $13,000 in poles, wire and transformers to the cabin and another $3800 for tree cutting (I hired out someone to cut the tree for me instead of the co-op). co-op wanted another $13500 for tree cutting - LOL.      Now we have the power and havent looked back.

In september, I put down a nice laminate flooring from lowes.  We went with what called - hand scraped saddle hickory the planks are 5-6 in wide.  I had tought about real wood and looked at my floor at the house and it has all kinds of dents, scratches etc.  I wanted something durable, so we went with the laminate.  This was fairly easy to install.  I got a 17x26 area in the loft completed in 4 hours. I was doing everything myself.

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The wife loved the flooring once it was in.  She was tired of walking on the avantec after a year lol. This has now created a separate project at my mothers house since she visited the cabin while i did the main room and wants me to do one or several of her rooms now.

We also did the loft stairs with the laminate and i purchased stairnoses for the edge.  the stairnose sits on the edge of the tread and then goes back over top of the laminate.  I wasnt sure if i would like that look/feel. i thought it should be smooth across. But once you start walking up and down the stairs, you realize it needs to be over lapping and gives you some traction.






Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 23, 2013, 10:02:27 AM
You are fortuneate that they did cover the repairs. Ii was told that the only way they would honor the warranty was if it was grid tied.  It is only designed as a "standby" and not off grid.  That is why I went with the Eco-gen that they manufacture as it is off grid certified.  Only down side is that it is only 6KW.  The controller as well as the charger suck power so if you are using in an off grid fashion that should be taken into conisideration with your battery bank and starter battery.  A neighbor has a standby 8K I think and he brings a freshly charged battery to his cabin for occassional use.  Pulling the fuse will stop the power drain but you have to reset the controller each time. 
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on March 23, 2013, 10:22:19 AM
After I got the floor in i started spraying all of the wood in the cabin.  My goal was to get everything on the first floor and the main ceiling strayed before then end of october.  I accomplished that and now only have to spray the loft storage doors and interior storage areas in the spring.

My wife though i was nuts for wanting to spray the white pine, she liked it as is. I could have gone down that road. But I really wanted the wood to pop and to have the honey color tone.  Boy oh boy does it look good! 

I will say this, I would have been sure nice to have this wood pre-finished from the factory - the place i got it did not do that.  The one neighbor who also was building his cabin sprayed his T&G at his shop before hanging it in the cabin.  That has a very nice smooth look.  I have a smooth looks most of the time but found it hard to see how much i was spraying on the wood /covering - especially when i was doing the ceiling.

I decided not to paint the wood with a brush, but to spray it on.  I used a HPLV spray gun system. Specifically the - Earlex HV5500 Spray Station $300. http://www.amazon.com/Earlex-HV5500-Spray-Station/dp/B004RGOKR2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364050766&sr=8-1&keywords=earlex
This worked awsome - the only thing i ended up purchasing additional was several needles used for spraying as the tips kept getting deformed - I later figured out i was inadvertenly causing that.   

After a visit to our second neighbors cabin while they brushed on good old oil based poly i knew right then and there I was going with a water based poly.  I ended up using Endurovar Water-base Polyurethane Varnish in satin - http://www.generalfinishes.com/retail-products/water-base-top-coats-sanding-sealers/enduro-var  this product was probably over kill, but i wanted something that was top notch and could easily be sprayed - this was it.    the wood took the first coat and sucked that up - basically sealing the wood.  Second coat looked good, but i opted for a third coat to get that glass like look on the wood.     After a few days everything tuned honey color and the wife loves it even better - oh yeah it gets rid of the new wood smell.  I didnt mind it, wife hated it.

Here are pics of the some sconces i put up. I saw someones build that put lights around their great room and liked the idea. So when we had the electrician in doing the new build wiring i had him pre-wire for these. The wife never really understood WTF I was thinking - as she told me later on.  Over the winter i bought these and installed them. Needless to say she loves them and they are now the primary lighting for the room instead of the can lights in the ceiling.

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Lastly this is sort of my biggest building snafu - pre-wired tv location.   If your planning your build, seriously consider all possible locations. I thought i had.  Originally i had the bed rooms wired and the great room has to two outside corners setup with power and cable.  After after I finished the loft and a year later did i realize how the room was layed out and once we got more furniture that only a handfull of our guests would be able to see the tv on the outside corners.  So I had to relocate the tv to the inside corner near the kitchen.  Now at this point we had not mounted anything to any walls, it was just sitting on the counter top.   But I had already finished the loft storage area.  this meant i had to cut out several T&G pieces to access a power outlet and run it to this corner and then to get cable from the crawl space up to the loft and to this corner.  got that completed :)   Cut out the old boards and replaced with new ones that are screwed in - in the event i need to get access to that area again.  If you are looking for a solid tv wall mount check out these guys: http://www.av-express.com/  good prices too - under a $130 for up to a 70in tv - best buy wanted something like over $300 for a mount.

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Currently, I only have a few small items left to complete.  Just finish spraying the log storage doors and internal areas. Then finish T&G the power utility closet and we are done.  Still need to stain the deck, but thats in the summer.

So far my only one regret is not putting in a full basement.  I only planned for this to be a hunting cabin, weekend summer get away.  so i kept thinking crawlspace - we will only live here 20 year from now etc.   My original thinking also had me getting a full basement with a 8ft garage door to store four wheeler instead of a pole bar. But didnt want that because of easy access to mice etc. So we opted for the crawl.  Now the wife would like to sell the current house and move here LOL.  Wish i had the full basement now.  just something to think about.




Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on March 23, 2013, 10:27:15 AM
I hear yeah rover - we were only expecting to use the genny for 2 or 3 weeks when the power was supposed to go in and then we had an issue with easments and crap that took forever. So that got resolve just before the genny died.  I think its all hog wash - there was a huge storm in the area just before this happened and people didnt have power for 2 weeks and the repaid guy said they had been repairing alot of generacs because of that storm.   I just cant see how running 2 weeks straight for 336 hours vs own 8 hours a day for several days really matters.  oh well what can we do.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: smithelectric on March 25, 2013, 07:03:09 PM
awesome! How much was it for the footer and blocks? Also how much to get it dried in? thanx
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Rob_O on March 25, 2013, 08:18:01 PM
Quote from: beckhamk on March 23, 2013, 09:51:32 AM

These unit will not recharge the battery while runnning.  They will only recharge when connected to grid power - go figure.


Customer of mine had the battery charger die in their Generac unit, it was your basic 12V 12W wall wart. I replaced it with a battery maintainer from the auto parts store up the road.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on March 26, 2013, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: smithelectric on March 25, 2013, 07:03:09 PM
awesome! How much was it for the footer and blocks? Also how much to get it dried in? thanx

We paid around $9500 for the foundation and site prep. For foundation.   Dried in we did that ourselves.

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: smithelectric on March 26, 2013, 09:46:01 PM
ok thanx . What about the cost for the outside walls and roof (trusses) dried in? If you dont mind me asking.:)
just material im doing all the work myself too.
Also where  did you get the plans at?
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on March 27, 2013, 05:26:44 PM
For costs - from sill plates to top place including the center girder build up beam, including all inside framing.  (but excludes the addtional storage framing i did in hte loft) - $12,000.   Trusses - $2556,      amish crew to install trusses, plywood and tar paper roof, build gable ends and over hangs and metal roof $8000 

hope that helps you out.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: midtn9 on March 27, 2013, 08:15:04 PM
New member. Long time lurker.

Your place is awesome. Been looking for the right cabin for my new place on the river. I believe I have finally found it. Could I possibly get a pic of the layout drawing.I hope you can help me as I have a few questions. Would get it from country plan but I see that yours is a plan mod. Thanks

Alan   Midtn9@yahoo.com
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: CjAl on March 28, 2013, 08:59:14 AM
I do love that red roof. Wish i could have it but it tends to turn pink in about 5 yrs. down here
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: astidham on March 29, 2013, 01:12:02 PM
those lights really look good!
love the tv location... we have been trying to find a good tv spot in our cabin.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on April 04, 2013, 08:13:38 AM
astidham - got the lights at Lowes or HomeDepot dont recall we go to both all of the time lol.  The tv location isnt bad. that room is 24 wide x 22 long.  So if you are on the far corner of the house watching tv you dont feel like your look up at all. The closer you are the more you notice it.  But the way we have the room layed out with furniture, that shouldnt be a problem.

CjAl - I hear you on the roof, I am hoping the roof keeps its color.  Its supposed to not get that issue for a long time, but well see.  Anyone getting a metal roof with a steep pitch should consider getting snow guards if you are going to have gutters. The first winter before we got gutters we witnessed an avalanch of snow fall off the roof that would have easily ripped the gutters off.  So in the spring we got the snow guards nsd gutters put on - no issues. :)

midtn9 - I can send you my modifed plan and a screen shot if that helps. I wish we had done a full basement and then i could put more crap down there instead of the 1st floor. Then increase the sixe of the batch room a foot or two then have stair to the basement.  The bathroom size is good if you are going to use a corner shower like we did.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Huge29 on April 07, 2013, 10:42:13 PM
Very nicely done!  I love the covered deck, that had me wondering before the pics showing it covered about the snow/ice avalanche too.  I have seen decks parallel to the ridge being totally knocked down by the snow/ice, they can be very strong and fast. 
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on December 08, 2013, 07:50:30 AM
Quote from: Huge29 on April 07, 2013, 10:42:13 PM
Very nicely done!  I love the covered deck, that had me wondering before the pics showing it covered about the snow/ice avalanche too.  I have seen decks parallel to the ridge being totally knocked down by the snow/ice, they can be very strong and fast. 

The snow guards are doing their job perfectly! Deck is holding up like a charm also :)
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on December 08, 2013, 08:40:38 AM
Hi everyone!  ;D  its been awhile. things have slowed down at the cabin as we have gotten everything completed for the most part.  I got the loft and storage area sprayed this spring and that was a big releif!   I will get some picture of complete upstairs next time we are out.  If i had it to do over again, i would have sprayed without the floor being done.  Just took more prep time to complete.

We got the deck stained this summer with sikkens cedar, it turned out nice.  I will say we waited a year to stain, I later found out because of the type of premium wood we got we could have stained 2 months after it was installed.  The issue with waiting a year for me was the wood mold that got on everthing that wasnt covered since we are in the middle of a forest -I had to power wash everything that had wood mold on it. It turned out good, but I think the wood even though its treated turned darker than the covered stuff.

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I also built this small retaining wall after I did a huge project at my main house.  This was more cosmetic than anything.  It was built using
versa-lok retaining wall bricks.  They are 16" x 12" x 6" and weight in the range of 60-70lbs each.  I plan to cut smaller wedges and glue or cement them in place on the left side where the huge rocks is to finish it off.  You can also see the decative rocks we put down from the drive to the deck its cedard in color.  We saw this stuff at the landscape place around the corner it was expensive stuff $118 per yard.  Its ok - it matches the color of the cabin and the wife loves it. But its very light rock and makes alot of noise when you walk on it. It also collects easily on your boots and gets all over the deck.  I want to replace this with some #8/#9 lime stone.

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The biggest project we did this summer was installed a french drain near the back corner of the cabin.  We did have any issues with water at the cabin/foundation. This was more of a we built on a hill and the way the slope is here the swail ends back by that tree then slopes down towards the cabin, rock path and the pole barn. It just seemed really wet down there.  So we rented a skid steer and a mini-excavator to dig a 12" x 12" trench from that corner all the way down into the woods where that foot bridge is.  I got a good deal at menards on pre-sleeved drain tile. I placed drainage rock in the first 70 feet where the main issue was and laid out the drainage tile down into the woods. Then i covered it up with dirt and then the remaining with rocks.  So far this has been working perfectly. I put a few inches of #57 rocks at the top so I could get the mower over it, I was worried about putting dirt back on top of the rocks as i didnt want water coming down the hill - the entire reason we put this in. So we will see how this works for now.

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I will get some more pictures posted soon.

Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: astidham on December 09, 2013, 09:08:34 AM
looks great!
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: finley31 on December 30, 2013, 09:53:03 PM
Looks great!  My wife and I are getting ready to start working on our plans to build on our property here in WV.  If you don't mind my asking, what part of ohio are you located in and what  company did you use to get your trusses from?  We are considering widening the plan as well and probably going with a length similar to yours.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 30, 2013, 10:16:16 PM
Quote from: finley31 on December 30, 2013, 09:53:03 PM
Looks great!  My wife and I are getting ready to start working on our plans to build on our property here in WV.  If you don't mind my asking, what part of ohio are you located in and what  company did you use to get your trusses from?  We are considering widening the plan as well and probably going with a length similar to yours.

Finley which part of the Mountain State are you building in?
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: finley31 on December 31, 2013, 08:23:45 AM
Mason county, how about yourself?
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 31, 2013, 08:27:00 AM
Quote from: finley31 on December 31, 2013, 08:23:45 AM
Mason county, how about yourself?

On the other side of the state. Pocahontas County bordering Virginia.  Parents lived in Mason County for 36 years on Whitten Ridge outside of Glenwood until 3 years ago when I moved them closer.  Sister lived on Route 2 just north of the Robert C.Byrd Locks.  I have lived along the Ohio River on several occassions.  Nice area.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: finley31 on December 31, 2013, 11:59:19 AM
What a small world.  I grew up about a mile and a half south of the locks and dam and still live less than five minutes away.  I went to high school at Hannan right out by whitten ridge.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 31, 2013, 12:37:39 PM
Quote from: finley31 on December 31, 2013, 11:59:19 AM
What a small world.  I grew up about a mile and a half south of the locks and dam and still live less than five minutes away.  I went to high school at Hannan right out by whitten ridge.

Check your PM messages. ;D
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: UperJoe on December 31, 2013, 02:40:03 PM
What a slick looking build [cool]
I asked this once before and still don't know the answer so I'll try again - it one wanted to change the 20' wide to this 24' what all would be the mods required from the stock plans?
I have tried to get what we have to fit in the 20' wide footprint and stretched to 38' long and just cannot get it to work for us. At 24' I think I could even shorten to 34' and be tickled pink with how we can do things inside.
All help is appreciated - should I start a new thread? ???
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 31, 2013, 02:44:07 PM
Beckhamk sorry to have temporiarly highjacked your thread.  We now return you to your regular programming.  ;D
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: Don_P on December 31, 2013, 04:35:16 PM
Quote from: UperJoe on December 31, 2013, 02:40:03 PM
What a slick looking build [cool]
I asked this once before and still don't know the answer so I'll try again - it one wanted to change the 20' wide to this 24' what all would be the mods required from the stock plans?
I have tried to get what we have to fit in the 20' wide footprint and stretched to 38' long and just cannot get it to work for us. At 24' I think I could even shorten to 34' and be tickled pink with how we can do things inside.
All help is appreciated - should I start a new thread? ???

When you're ready another thread would probably be easier to follow. The short answer is that spanning members like joists and rafters get deeper or have their spans broken by midspan supports. Girders and headers underneath those joists or rafters either cannot span as far or need to be larger, in other words you need to be able to support more load. To be honest I've rarely worked on houses less than 24' wide, it helps to get things like stairs inside to work out well. Generally at 24' there is a midspan girder under the floor, and I believe there is one in this house. Stacking a load bearing wall over that can then support regular dimensional lumber floor joists above, or you can go to engineered floor joists or trusses to clearspan the distance. I prefer to keep it simple and frame it conventionally if possible.
Title: Re: 24 x 46 1.5 Story in Ohio
Post by: beckhamk on March 02, 2014, 05:50:43 PM
Sorry for the delay - got busy with work

finley31 - we are located in central ohio, the cabin is near Zanesville, ohio.  got our trusses from Columbus roof trusses.

Rover- no problem

uperjoe - DonP said it exactly - we did that word for word.   look at page 1 of this thread there is a pic right before we put the floor joists on. We built a buildup beam just like the plans on this forum have if you purchased plans from here. There are examples on here also. Then the next photo you can see how we overlapped the joists over the build up beam.  Its rock solid.  We used 2x12 on the entire floor, we could have gone smaller since we would have been only spanning 12ft. But I didn't want any flex or noise. Plus we have 9 in or so of spray in foam on the underside of that floor.  Its nice and solid and doesn't bounce :)